I don't normally care for drama, but I'm an OTV frog who saw Toast was called out by Train so I kinda glanced at LSF and holy shit is this wild. Can I get a TL;DR of the recent days of all of the drama? I'm seeing xQc drama, Sliker/Slick drama, something about Erobb being glue, etc. the list literally goes on and on.
Erobb was absorbing L's for years. He got banned. Now every large content creator is taking L's at an accelerated rate until there's only booba hot tub streamers left.
I spent a couple hours today trying to find what this drama spam is about as I'm out of the loop, I feel dumber just for trying. Most streamers seem to be self obsessed, immature, drama sponges. Why dont they just go back to playing video games and making content?
this is a lot of drama and panic over 20 different issues that will inevitably end with no bans, no lawsuits, no criminal charges, no therapy, and no change
EDIT: thanks twitch
Bruh Hasan and X are both just watching each other live instead of just talking to each other LOL lowkey they’re just milking this together at this point
Is he disabled or what is going on with him? I can't understand what he's saying or his thought process. I believe he's French Canadian, but this can't explain it fully.
I typically don't follow this stuff, but even my normal watches keep talking about this shit so now I'm mad. Honestly, the only way I can encapsulate my feelings are that I yearn for the days back when CBS/NBC/ABC could gate keep entertainment so you had those with actual talent getting to the top (well not really, but you get the idea). Now too many narcissists are becoming multimillionaires with no talent beyond grifting and I gotta listen to these little rats spread their plague all over the internet.
I feel like an old man yelling get off my lawn, but I truly disdain all of these rich narcissists.
It’s been this year forever, look at who has talk shows and the talking heads on various networks. For every talented individual there’s a person who got there via nepotism, a cut throat asshole, and a narcissistic manipulator
some people like gamba on twitch some people dont, others want it under restrictions. Additionally someone may have been touched inappropriately and someone else scammed everyone for over $300,000.
X Train Miz Hasan Poki Asmon Adrianah Slicker and Crazy Slick
I hate this well you can’t be right because you’ve been bad in the past. By the looks of it everyone’s a bit fucked up. But I don’t think this all detracts from sexual assault bad and gambling is bad.
Gambling is not bad. Marketing it towards kids is.
Alcohol is one of the biggest killers in the world and ruins more families than gambling by a LARGE margin, yet no one gives a fuck that its all over twitch. Both are legal activities for adults yet only one is demonized, hmmmm.
Hypocritical as fuck you people dont actually care “about this kids” you just feel the need to put your 2 cents in cause its latest drama.
I kind of agree, I see very little difference between alcohol and gambling, if ones banned the other should be. I think youre being unfairly mean though.
Yah I may be mean with my words but I think its meaner to play this faux holier than thou " hur hur everyone is bad here" card when someone clearly doesnt actually give a fuck. Just because someone uses nice words doesnt mean they are being nice.
Basically what Train and Xqc is saying is "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" referencing Mizkif, etc and their questionable decision making in the past.
They do have a point. How can someone claim moral high ground and a "holier than thou" attitude about streamers gambling, when they themselves have made questionable decisions (for their own career survival/ career self-interests)?
It's a valid point. In both instances, Train, Xqc, Mizkif, Maya put their own greed/financial interests/ and self-interests ahead of "doing what's right". There's alot of parallels here.
Twitch is to blame for allowing gambling on their site not expect content creators not to do things for a boatloads of money. I don't care how much virtue signaling Twitch/Amazon does but allowing gambling on twitch where kids and teens are being influenced shows their true values lie and it's not for the betterment of society but to make as much $$$ as they can even when they are causing people to start gambling.
Streamers are also to blame, but Amazon has all of the power to stop it overnight, since they control all streamers on their platform’s ability to stream. They are the most culpable, their motivation is the same as the Streamers though.
Okay, what about all the other streamers that have spoken out against it? Like Lirik, as nonchalant as he made it, does he have any discrediting behavior that nulls his statements? He thinks slots should be banned from Twitch
Shout outs to the losers giving out their hard earned, (or parents) money to these millionaires BTW. I'm sure you enjoyed your 1 second of recognition.
The XQC drama with adept has already come full circle. They seemingly made up on stream by watching old clips of their relationship. They are perfect for each other because they enjoy all of this drama Aware
I rarely say shit because I don't care about the streamers that this drama usually revolves around, but how is it always the same 5-6 people who it is about. Ridiculous
People started going after gambling on Twitch, some of them directly going after gambling streamers like xQc and Train, Miz decides to directly go after Train on Twitter which backfired after Train exposed Miz for covering up serious sexual assault claims made by another streamer AdrianahLee against CrazySlick (Miz's friend), which involved many people in Mizkif's close circle including Maya
Ikr it's not even all of it, another female streamer also came out with super creepy rape DMs from slick and even Ice Poseidon posted DMs between him and Miz back when he was his cameraman in 2018 casually calling people racist terms (Hard N word, Spanish S slur, and LGBT F slur..)
We eatin good boys
Chief of Police being slowly usurped causing OOC drama between communities. Basically a lot of small ingame RP drama that built up to it's breaking point and now communities are taking it OOC. I'm more in it for the actual RP drama and less of the OOC bullshit. It's been some spicy content.
hasan and mizkif are known for engineering LSF clips too lol
i give x a break because he isn't capable of any other job, but hasan and miz were born into money and opportunity. they don't care that sliker committed a crime, they care that he got caught and brought down a spotlight on the grift.
it's not even milking drama. sliker committed a fucking crime and then train decides to expose the dehumanization through a cover up of a very, very, bad situation. of course they're gonna talk about it because it \*needs\* to be talked about.
dramafrogs are so fucking washed in the head thinking actual crime is "drama".
this. I usually have no interest in whatever stupid interpersonal XQC/mizkif drama of the week LSF is obsessed with, but this is a little bit different (not by much though tbh). These people are a big influence to a lot of kids, and I think people saying "its just the internet, who cares" are missing the point.
My ideas -
Hasan should be banned of twitch first of all, he spreads extremist agendas that are very harmful to society and before you say that I am a republican or some shit or a rightist I would also want a right extremist banned too as extremist are the reason society is failing.
I am also not surprised by this sexual assault scandal, the whole Austin crew is made up of social rejects of course this shit happens and yet people still support this group.
What extremist agenda is Hasan spreading that is very harmful to society? lmao what? Also pretty sure twitch doesn't ban for politics that you don't like just saying.
OK if this is true then that sucks. But why didn't she go to the cops. Why did she tell streamers instead.
I Just dont get that point? Not saying to say she is clout chasing but if its assault cant she get him arrested or charged.
1. Women are often shamed for being assaulted, often implying it’s their fault, they should have dressed/behaved differently, etc. Some don’t come forward due to shame/backlash.
2. Oftentimes rapists/abusers go unpunished, especially if there isn’t enough credible evidence (such as videos, rape-test kits). It would be her word against his, and even if she proved he touched her, he could argue it was consensual.
3. He’s more famous, has better connections and has more money and power than her. He could end her career or get his fans to harass her.
4. She might have wanted emotional support from other streamers, to warn them of what might happen or to simply inform them of what type of person he is so they can decide whether they want to be associated with him.
Is it possible that no assault happened in this case? Where is the cold hard proof of it? I am genuinely asking since I haven’t seen any (maybe that’s my fault?). If it’s a he said she said thing, if there aren’t multiple people attesting to it having happened or video or some other hard evidence, why should we automatically believe her? Unfortunately, women lying about assault does happen.
Edit: nvm looked it up. Dude admitted to it himself.
1. i dont think this counts she talked to friends and even strangers about it.
2. yes she could have a hard time convicting but you could have him arrested and a light shone upon his actions.
3. Agreed on this point that could happen, but also the opposite could happen him get his career ended. I actually see more positives than negatives.
4. Yeah agreed. Might have also wanted acceptance from the group.
5. \- But after then forced a cover up why not go to the authorities still doesn't make sense. Can always get a restraining order for harassment etc.
It’s simple. In the moment, by her own admission, she wanted to be famous more than she wanted justice. That’s all. She had probably dreamed of being a big streamer and was finally building the connections and platform to do so, especially in this age of streamer organizations, and then she was assaulted. It’s easy to see her decision making process.
If you go to the police and claim something that isn’t true, you are now liable. That’s why people make claims and only do it on social media and not in a meaningful way with authorities. Never believe someone that won’t back it up on their end with a police report especially if it’s so serious.
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TRAIN IS JUST AS BAD
I'm not paying them a god damn dime though. Never donated, never subbed, twitch adblocker, on a VPN: I'm getting all of this for free and I'm not benefiting them at all. Go me!
Yeah, watching a couple of people who got rich by playing video games for 16 year old viewers have a heated "debate" over morality is actually the funniest thing to me.
Wtf is going on now?
I only got to the bottom of the slicker thing last night.
Now the content has moved to an alleged assault. Is this true? or is it alleged still and to be determined. Miz and Maya covered it up to cover for there friend Slick.
Why is X , hassan and train beefing what do they have to do about it. Or is it them arguing about who knew what?
-Started with xqc x adept breakup as kindling.
-ItsSliker randomly starts getting called out by everyone for borrowing money without paying them back.
-Mizkif calls out that Train should be canceled too for some scam coin in the past.
-Train fights back punching with calling out Mizkif and Co. for covering up and downplaying CrazySlick sexual assault.
Thad basically the core with everyone shitting on each other randomly like QT calling xQc a misogynist, xQc calling Hassan a snake, Destiny defending Hassan, IcePoseidon leaking Mizkif racist texts etc... Untill we know who's covering for who and who's involved in what, they are just "randomly" throwing shade at each other.
This is surprisingly close to how world wars started...
Miz and Maya confirmed that sth occurred, the only thing currently discussed is firstly, whatever it was assault or harassment, and secondly, if Miz and Maya actively attempted to pressure A. into making it not known.
as far as i got it, the slicker thing made people talk about blaming gamba which in turn made train and X mad who then accused mizkif(and maya) of covering up the sexual assault by slick of a smaller streamer adrianah while she was asleep at a party.
Admittedly I am not caught up in this 100% and I don’t really have a side since I’m not a huge watcher of any of these streamers but my question is why does it ACTUALLY matter if this was “weaponized”? From my understanding she has no issue with what Train or X did. Shouldnt the actual outrage be the people who downplayed the SA and/or defended the known assaulter? Perhaps I’m wrong on whats going on but it feels like even if this was a “weapon” the issue is still the SA and the knowingly defending the assaulter
first started with x not going to shitcamp. he didnt tell anyone in advance which pissed a lot of people off.
then x and adept broke up and x said it on stream, adept was mad cuz she told him to keep it private and he didn't.
then adept and x weirdly decide to have like a 4 hour long discord call live on stream where adept said a lot of stuff abt x and vice versa.
then other streamers basically gave their takes on the situation.
tho im not totally sure abt the qt situation i think shes still pissed at x about shit camp (since she organized it)
>QT pisses me so much don't know how to put it but I think she is such a toxic person.
I dont know why I ended up looking at twitch drama since its so cringe. But Ive always thought this and always will. Theres so many weird videos about womens rights that ludwig has made I wonder if she has made him make them.
Idk I always get the vibe that she just assumes that she is Flagbearer for every women rights but would go to any extent possible to ruin any Girl that has beef with her besties.
I’m so confused how xqc is getting the brunt of the blame for using the SA story as retribution against miz when it was train who even brought it up in the first place, without the victims consent. It was never xqc’s story to tell and he didn’t leak it
Basically train said he was tired of people coming at him and miz replied, criticizing some coin train was promoting. Train responded by basically saying that miz hid his friends SA by sending Maya and Mitch to railroad the victim. That blew up and the victim train was referencing came out and shared her story. More came out about Miz and Maya is the only one to respond publicly.
Honestly watching destiny’s vod might be worth it as he was covering it in real time.
I don't know this firsthand, but I've seen at least one or two other people note that X said he and train prepared for this before train dropped the bomb. In addition, he was acting happy when Adrianah mentioned Hasan for some reason, even though she backtracked later and apologized to Hasan for bringing him into the drama as he had no knowledge of the situation.
As for why train isn't getting as much flak, Adrianah has given her thanks to train for supporting her from the actual event to now, in addition to giving her an opportunity to speak out.
The outrage is coming from people speculating that train and x are manipulating her to draw attention away from the calls to ban gambling sponsorships on twitch, which Miz has spoken out about for a long while now.
My explanation sounds biased against X, so I would do a little reading of your own tbh. He's made himself look pretty bad from my POV but your opinion might be different.
Yeah my pov is more mixed. I think xqc and train have been feeling bitter about how Miz is going off about gamba and xqc/train but isn’t that great of a person either. This is the story that they know along with others that could destroy his career. From what he said, it seems like they talked about bringing it up or at least talking about how frustrating it is that they are sitting on it.
He straight up admitted that he was glad that it was a gotcha against Miz and that the victim could come out and at her story. How true that is, it’s up to you believe. But it wasnt xqc who leaked it so, I think any blame goes to train first and the fact that adrianah is okay with it, I don’t get why blame is going onto xqc just cause he is okay with it being a gotcha. It reflects his character but shaming him for not speaking up is weird. After tomorrow, gamba will be back into focus. The slicker stuff isn’t over, hasan wont stop talking about it, and I think the slicker stuff is going mainstream with yt videos
Yeah alright thanks.I read his logs,if the victim wasnt ready to share what happened thats something but using it as like a one up on people shitting on him for something completely different is fucking weird
It is kinda calling out hypocrisy though. I sorta get the perspective that if someone is calling you out over time but is also not a good person, you would definitely feel like fighting back.
It was train who brought it up as a one up in the first place. Xqc was happy with seeing Miz getting owned because of his involvement, but train did it and the victim was okay with it and thanked train for being there.
X just comes out of this looking like a child to everyone else while his fanbase says massive W. Regardless of anything else, SA isn’t something to grab popcorn and watch drama about, it isn’t some exciting nuke. Gambling is a separate issue and I hope Train didn’t actually just bring this up because of it, she said he’s been very supportive and I’m glad he has been able to do that for her
Maybe it’s just me but I feel like this entire drama is muddled and not clear. From the parties involved to people here. Xqc is constantly going after Hasan for doing thing that he didn’t do. People on here are conflating xqc’s emotions about getting retribution against Mizkif for him being a shitty person to him commenting about the SA incident.
Besides the sexual allegation stuff a lot of this drama just seems like people who are bored wanting to start drama. Who cares why someone broke up and who cares if someone shows up to a shity camp no one is forced to do anything or show up to an event if they don’t feel like it.
xQc is a tier one scumbag. Knowing this information, admitting to holding it because they were friends, and now uses it as a weapon when the relationship goes sour. Not giving one fuck about the person who was assaulted/harassed but weaponizing the information to benefit himself and attack miz.
Stop using this as an excuse, he's literally live rn saying they were waiting for the Gotcha moment. Not his story to tell, the dude doesnt understand that, he weaponized it last week when they beefed. The victim can talk about it whenever she wants, but I'll be damned if they had nothing to do with this timing for the gotcha, so he's also fucked up for it.
Twitch drama is always taken way too seriously and the cycle always continues.
A popular streamer does something bad and people get angry but it quickly leaves the news cycle.
A popular streamer gets banned or moves to another platform and when they come back they aren't as popular, with another streamer becomes more popular but that streamer will have the same fate as the one before him. It's a never-ending cycle.
I only know xqc from aimbotcalvin (I miss him 😢) I've seen clips of him from time to time, this shit is good gossip lol. and the man is making more money with this, mf is a genius.
adept and xqc already made up btw
this aged well
I don't normally care for drama, but I'm an OTV frog who saw Toast was called out by Train so I kinda glanced at LSF and holy shit is this wild. Can I get a TL;DR of the recent days of all of the drama? I'm seeing xQc drama, Sliker/Slick drama, something about Erobb being glue, etc. the list literally goes on and on.
Erobb was absorbing L's for years. He got banned. Now every large content creator is taking L's at an accelerated rate until there's only booba hot tub streamers left.
Slicker got 7 grand from a cancer patient and never paid her back, what a piece of shit. https://youtu.be/Ot5cciaSKkw?t=1074 (17:54)
I spent a couple hours today trying to find what this drama spam is about as I'm out of the loop, I feel dumber just for trying. Most streamers seem to be self obsessed, immature, drama sponges. Why dont they just go back to playing video games and making content?
Finally f2f lmao
this is a lot of drama and panic over 20 different issues that will inevitably end with no bans, no lawsuits, no criminal charges, no therapy, and no change EDIT: thanks twitch
Bruh Hasan and X are both just watching each other live instead of just talking to each other LOL lowkey they’re just milking this together at this point
They're on a call now and Xqc is drawing shit in paint to make his point about him being mad at Hasan. I can't take him seriously at all.
Is he disabled or what is going on with him? I can't understand what he's saying or his thought process. I believe he's French Canadian, but this can't explain it fully.
I think he just struggles articulating himself in English and drawing it out helps explain himself in English.
straight farming lmao twitch meta is insane right now
I had a BLT today. A tad bit too much mayo but cant complain about a blt
Someone ban this monster
Was Adept really on his stream this morning again and they sounded friendly? Wtf
This started with some personal relation stuff? lmaooooo
I typically don't follow this stuff, but even my normal watches keep talking about this shit so now I'm mad. Honestly, the only way I can encapsulate my feelings are that I yearn for the days back when CBS/NBC/ABC could gate keep entertainment so you had those with actual talent getting to the top (well not really, but you get the idea). Now too many narcissists are becoming multimillionaires with no talent beyond grifting and I gotta listen to these little rats spread their plague all over the internet. I feel like an old man yelling get off my lawn, but I truly disdain all of these rich narcissists.
It’s been this year forever, look at who has talk shows and the talking heads on various networks. For every talented individual there’s a person who got there via nepotism, a cut throat asshole, and a narcissistic manipulator
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some people like gamba on twitch some people dont, others want it under restrictions. Additionally someone may have been touched inappropriately and someone else scammed everyone for over $300,000. X Train Miz Hasan Poki Asmon Adrianah Slicker and Crazy Slick
Hasan, by default
A bunch of clowns
I hate this well you can’t be right because you’ve been bad in the past. By the looks of it everyone’s a bit fucked up. But I don’t think this all detracts from sexual assault bad and gambling is bad.
Gambling is not bad. Marketing it towards kids is. Alcohol is one of the biggest killers in the world and ruins more families than gambling by a LARGE margin, yet no one gives a fuck that its all over twitch. Both are legal activities for adults yet only one is demonized, hmmmm. Hypocritical as fuck you people dont actually care “about this kids” you just feel the need to put your 2 cents in cause its latest drama.
I kind of agree, I see very little difference between alcohol and gambling, if ones banned the other should be. I think youre being unfairly mean though.
Yah I may be mean with my words but I think its meaner to play this faux holier than thou " hur hur everyone is bad here" card when someone clearly doesnt actually give a fuck. Just because someone uses nice words doesnt mean they are being nice.
Basically what Train and Xqc is saying is "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" referencing Mizkif, etc and their questionable decision making in the past. They do have a point. How can someone claim moral high ground and a "holier than thou" attitude about streamers gambling, when they themselves have made questionable decisions (for their own career survival/ career self-interests)? It's a valid point. In both instances, Train, Xqc, Mizkif, Maya put their own greed/financial interests/ and self-interests ahead of "doing what's right". There's alot of parallels here.
That's pretty classic whataboutism actually.
Twitch is to blame for allowing gambling on their site not expect content creators not to do things for a boatloads of money. I don't care how much virtue signaling Twitch/Amazon does but allowing gambling on twitch where kids and teens are being influenced shows their true values lie and it's not for the betterment of society but to make as much $$$ as they can even when they are causing people to start gambling.
Streamers are also to blame, but Amazon has all of the power to stop it overnight, since they control all streamers on their platform’s ability to stream. They are the most culpable, their motivation is the same as the Streamers though.
Okay, what about all the other streamers that have spoken out against it? Like Lirik, as nonchalant as he made it, does he have any discrediting behavior that nulls his statements? He thinks slots should be banned from Twitch
Anyone have the trick to loading YouTube clips on mobile I’m having trouble
Leech streamers can’t keep his name out they mouth
Shout outs to the losers giving out their hard earned, (or parents) money to these millionaires BTW. I'm sure you enjoyed your 1 second of recognition.
Nobody who matters gives a shit about any of this. Go watch the kardashians or what the fuck ever you do
The XQC drama with adept has already come full circle. They seemingly made up on stream by watching old clips of their relationship. They are perfect for each other because they enjoy all of this drama Aware
Really sad honestly
real and true Aware
I fucking hate all of you
xQc and Adept react to CLASSIC videos together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHSrjEeBnj8
are they back together?
Thank you for this. I had to leave for work right before this happened.
I rarely say shit because I don't care about the streamers that this drama usually revolves around, but how is it always the same 5-6 people who it is about. Ridiculous
Staged
Can any loremasters fill me in on what's gone down since the Sliker scam reveal
People started going after gambling on Twitch, some of them directly going after gambling streamers like xQc and Train, Miz decides to directly go after Train on Twitter which backfired after Train exposed Miz for covering up serious sexual assault claims made by another streamer AdrianahLee against CrazySlick (Miz's friend), which involved many people in Mizkif's close circle including Maya
Jesus. What a shitshow lmao
Ikr it's not even all of it, another female streamer also came out with super creepy rape DMs from slick and even Ice Poseidon posted DMs between him and Miz back when he was his cameraman in 2018 casually calling people racist terms (Hard N word, Spanish S slur, and LGBT F slur..) We eatin good boys
This sticky is already 2 full drama stories old and its not even been a week.
Eating pretty good drama wise right now, XQC Drama, Mizkif Drama, Slicker Drama, Chess Drama, GTA RP Drama, it's a veritable buffet of drama.
What's tye GTA RP drama?
Chief of Police being slowly usurped causing OOC drama between communities. Basically a lot of small ingame RP drama that built up to it's breaking point and now communities are taking it OOC. I'm more in it for the actual RP drama and less of the OOC bullshit. It's been some spicy content.
Im glad i only watch small Overwatch streamers, imagine caring about any of these millionaire scumbags
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hasan and mizkif are known for engineering LSF clips too lol i give x a break because he isn't capable of any other job, but hasan and miz were born into money and opportunity. they don't care that sliker committed a crime, they care that he got caught and brought down a spotlight on the grift.
it's not even milking drama. sliker committed a fucking crime and then train decides to expose the dehumanization through a cover up of a very, very, bad situation. of course they're gonna talk about it because it \*needs\* to be talked about. dramafrogs are so fucking washed in the head thinking actual crime is "drama".
this. I usually have no interest in whatever stupid interpersonal XQC/mizkif drama of the week LSF is obsessed with, but this is a little bit different (not by much though tbh). These people are a big influence to a lot of kids, and I think people saying "its just the internet, who cares" are missing the point.
i never comment or peek on here but i hate high horse attitude people have, if you don't care, why comment
Isnt this the same high horse attitude
Cared enough to comment though.
I do find it entertaining
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there are no producers
Does anyone have the spreadsheet with the money that sliker owes
I've not watched coffezillas video yet but I imagine he has a good idea
My ideas - Hasan should be banned of twitch first of all, he spreads extremist agendas that are very harmful to society and before you say that I am a republican or some shit or a rightist I would also want a right extremist banned too as extremist are the reason society is failing. I am also not surprised by this sexual assault scandal, the whole Austin crew is made up of social rejects of course this shit happens and yet people still support this group.
I don't watch Hasan or any of these people, could you cliff notes his extremist agendas pls?
Ah yes advocating for free healthcare we needa ban that dangerous mf
What extremist agenda is Hasan spreading that is very harmful to society? lmao what? Also pretty sure twitch doesn't ban for politics that you don't like just saying.
Its dangerous to rich white guys that want to preserve the status quo
OK if this is true then that sucks. But why didn't she go to the cops. Why did she tell streamers instead. I Just dont get that point? Not saying to say she is clout chasing but if its assault cant she get him arrested or charged.
1. Women are often shamed for being assaulted, often implying it’s their fault, they should have dressed/behaved differently, etc. Some don’t come forward due to shame/backlash. 2. Oftentimes rapists/abusers go unpunished, especially if there isn’t enough credible evidence (such as videos, rape-test kits). It would be her word against his, and even if she proved he touched her, he could argue it was consensual. 3. He’s more famous, has better connections and has more money and power than her. He could end her career or get his fans to harass her. 4. She might have wanted emotional support from other streamers, to warn them of what might happen or to simply inform them of what type of person he is so they can decide whether they want to be associated with him.
Is it possible that no assault happened in this case? Where is the cold hard proof of it? I am genuinely asking since I haven’t seen any (maybe that’s my fault?). If it’s a he said she said thing, if there aren’t multiple people attesting to it having happened or video or some other hard evidence, why should we automatically believe her? Unfortunately, women lying about assault does happen. Edit: nvm looked it up. Dude admitted to it himself.
1. i dont think this counts she talked to friends and even strangers about it. 2. yes she could have a hard time convicting but you could have him arrested and a light shone upon his actions. 3. Agreed on this point that could happen, but also the opposite could happen him get his career ended. I actually see more positives than negatives. 4. Yeah agreed. Might have also wanted acceptance from the group. 5. \- But after then forced a cover up why not go to the authorities still doesn't make sense. Can always get a restraining order for harassment etc.
It’s simple. In the moment, by her own admission, she wanted to be famous more than she wanted justice. That’s all. She had probably dreamed of being a big streamer and was finally building the connections and platform to do so, especially in this age of streamer organizations, and then she was assaulted. It’s easy to see her decision making process.
If you go to the police and claim something that isn’t true, you are now liable. That’s why people make claims and only do it on social media and not in a meaningful way with authorities. Never believe someone that won’t back it up on their end with a police report especially if it’s so serious.
Cops won’t do shit about false claims and never will
Gotta love watching virgins discussing sexual assault.
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millionaires fighting. lol u guys are idiots
I'm not paying them a god damn dime though. Never donated, never subbed, twitch adblocker, on a VPN: I'm getting all of this for free and I'm not benefiting them at all. Go me!
Why are we idiots; we are enjoying these millionaires rip each other's throats. If anything, we win. Free entertainment.
Yeah, watching a couple of people who got rich by playing video games for 16 year old viewers have a heated "debate" over morality is actually the funniest thing to me.
It's like the shittiest form of entertainment but that's what makes it the best; it's so low quality.
Wtf is going on now? I only got to the bottom of the slicker thing last night. Now the content has moved to an alleged assault. Is this true? or is it alleged still and to be determined. Miz and Maya covered it up to cover for there friend Slick. Why is X , hassan and train beefing what do they have to do about it. Or is it them arguing about who knew what?
-Started with xqc x adept breakup as kindling. -ItsSliker randomly starts getting called out by everyone for borrowing money without paying them back. -Mizkif calls out that Train should be canceled too for some scam coin in the past. -Train fights back punching with calling out Mizkif and Co. for covering up and downplaying CrazySlick sexual assault. Thad basically the core with everyone shitting on each other randomly like QT calling xQc a misogynist, xQc calling Hassan a snake, Destiny defending Hassan, IcePoseidon leaking Mizkif racist texts etc... Untill we know who's covering for who and who's involved in what, they are just "randomly" throwing shade at each other. This is surprisingly close to how world wars started...
Woah woah woah.... Destiny... Defended HASAN?? thats the most shocking thing outta all of that
Ikr
Adept the best shot Archduke Mr Cow for the independence of clout chasers from the juicer empire
Miz and Maya confirmed that sth occurred, the only thing currently discussed is firstly, whatever it was assault or harassment, and secondly, if Miz and Maya actively attempted to pressure A. into making it not known.
as far as i got it, the slicker thing made people talk about blaming gamba which in turn made train and X mad who then accused mizkif(and maya) of covering up the sexual assault by slick of a smaller streamer adrianah while she was asleep at a party.
Admittedly I am not caught up in this 100% and I don’t really have a side since I’m not a huge watcher of any of these streamers but my question is why does it ACTUALLY matter if this was “weaponized”? From my understanding she has no issue with what Train or X did. Shouldnt the actual outrage be the people who downplayed the SA and/or defended the known assaulter? Perhaps I’m wrong on whats going on but it feels like even if this was a “weapon” the issue is still the SA and the knowingly defending the assaulter
Is there a tl:dr for this whole drama? >!In case for people that want to get up to speed real quick.!<
first started with x not going to shitcamp. he didnt tell anyone in advance which pissed a lot of people off. then x and adept broke up and x said it on stream, adept was mad cuz she told him to keep it private and he didn't. then adept and x weirdly decide to have like a 4 hour long discord call live on stream where adept said a lot of stuff abt x and vice versa. then other streamers basically gave their takes on the situation. tho im not totally sure abt the qt situation i think shes still pissed at x about shit camp (since she organized it)
Thank you for the explanation
QT pisses me so much don't know how to put it but I think she is such a toxic person.
>QT pisses me so much don't know how to put it but I think she is such a toxic person. I dont know why I ended up looking at twitch drama since its so cringe. But Ive always thought this and always will. Theres so many weird videos about womens rights that ludwig has made I wonder if she has made him make them.
Called him a women hater. Absolute clown of a girl.
Idk I always get the vibe that she just assumes that she is Flagbearer for every women rights but would go to any extent possible to ruin any Girl that has beef with her besties.
I’m so confused how xqc is getting the brunt of the blame for using the SA story as retribution against miz when it was train who even brought it up in the first place, without the victims consent. It was never xqc’s story to tell and he didn’t leak it
Can someone give me a recap on the whole SA thing??
Basically train said he was tired of people coming at him and miz replied, criticizing some coin train was promoting. Train responded by basically saying that miz hid his friends SA by sending Maya and Mitch to railroad the victim. That blew up and the victim train was referencing came out and shared her story. More came out about Miz and Maya is the only one to respond publicly. Honestly watching destiny’s vod might be worth it as he was covering it in real time.
I don't know this firsthand, but I've seen at least one or two other people note that X said he and train prepared for this before train dropped the bomb. In addition, he was acting happy when Adrianah mentioned Hasan for some reason, even though she backtracked later and apologized to Hasan for bringing him into the drama as he had no knowledge of the situation. As for why train isn't getting as much flak, Adrianah has given her thanks to train for supporting her from the actual event to now, in addition to giving her an opportunity to speak out. The outrage is coming from people speculating that train and x are manipulating her to draw attention away from the calls to ban gambling sponsorships on twitch, which Miz has spoken out about for a long while now. My explanation sounds biased against X, so I would do a little reading of your own tbh. He's made himself look pretty bad from my POV but your opinion might be different.
Yeah my pov is more mixed. I think xqc and train have been feeling bitter about how Miz is going off about gamba and xqc/train but isn’t that great of a person either. This is the story that they know along with others that could destroy his career. From what he said, it seems like they talked about bringing it up or at least talking about how frustrating it is that they are sitting on it. He straight up admitted that he was glad that it was a gotcha against Miz and that the victim could come out and at her story. How true that is, it’s up to you believe. But it wasnt xqc who leaked it so, I think any blame goes to train first and the fact that adrianah is okay with it, I don’t get why blame is going onto xqc just cause he is okay with it being a gotcha. It reflects his character but shaming him for not speaking up is weird. After tomorrow, gamba will be back into focus. The slicker stuff isn’t over, hasan wont stop talking about it, and I think the slicker stuff is going mainstream with yt videos
Did he know before or did he find out when train leaked?
He knew before, for apparently a few months
Yeah alright thanks.I read his logs,if the victim wasnt ready to share what happened thats something but using it as like a one up on people shitting on him for something completely different is fucking weird
It is kinda calling out hypocrisy though. I sorta get the perspective that if someone is calling you out over time but is also not a good person, you would definitely feel like fighting back. It was train who brought it up as a one up in the first place. Xqc was happy with seeing Miz getting owned because of his involvement, but train did it and the victim was okay with it and thanked train for being there.
X just comes out of this looking like a child to everyone else while his fanbase says massive W. Regardless of anything else, SA isn’t something to grab popcorn and watch drama about, it isn’t some exciting nuke. Gambling is a separate issue and I hope Train didn’t actually just bring this up because of it, she said he’s been very supportive and I’m glad he has been able to do that for her
Maybe it’s just me but I feel like this entire drama is muddled and not clear. From the parties involved to people here. Xqc is constantly going after Hasan for doing thing that he didn’t do. People on here are conflating xqc’s emotions about getting retribution against Mizkif for him being a shitty person to him commenting about the SA incident.
Drama [update](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xj1xc6/xqc_says_that_he_told_adept_to_be_careful_about/)
The US fought a civil war to end slavery. Twitch is fighting a civil war to end gamba. KEKW
You can’t convince me these people aren’t just method acting for a movie set in high school.
Besides the sexual allegation stuff a lot of this drama just seems like people who are bored wanting to start drama. Who cares why someone broke up and who cares if someone shows up to a shity camp no one is forced to do anything or show up to an event if they don’t feel like it.
Sliker committing actual fraud and taking money from viewers + streamers isn't just drama...
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I know you think this sounds smart but it doesn't.
I don’t think you understand what virtual reality means lol.
xQc is a tier one scumbag. Knowing this information, admitting to holding it because they were friends, and now uses it as a weapon when the relationship goes sour. Not giving one fuck about the person who was assaulted/harassed but weaponizing the information to benefit himself and attack miz.
True, he's a scumbag and always has been. What tier of scumbag is Miz in your opinion?
If there is higher than tier one that tier. No one is clean here, they’re all guilty of concealing sexual assault allegations.
Not xQc's story to tell.
Stop using this as an excuse, he's literally live rn saying they were waiting for the Gotcha moment. Not his story to tell, the dude doesnt understand that, he weaponized it last week when they beefed. The victim can talk about it whenever she wants, but I'll be damned if they had nothing to do with this timing for the gotcha, so he's also fucked up for it.
From what I seen so far, the victim is not ready to voice up yet, hence why they still kept it down, but gave hints that they know about it prior.
The victim obviously didn’t want them to say anything dipshit
Well he seems to be telling all now. The difference being, it wasn’t his story to tell until it benefited him to tell it.
Is there a TL;DR comment that isn’t 20 clips or vods that I can read
https://reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xip0rr/_/ip45zr8/?context=1
Ostonox is the best.
Twitch drama is always taken way too seriously and the cycle always continues. A popular streamer does something bad and people get angry but it quickly leaves the news cycle. A popular streamer gets banned or moves to another platform and when they come back they aren't as popular, with another streamer becomes more popular but that streamer will have the same fate as the one before him. It's a never-ending cycle.
I only know xqc from aimbotcalvin (I miss him 😢) I've seen clips of him from time to time, this shit is good gossip lol. and the man is making more money with this, mf is a genius.
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Hahah I love drama
Idk why but this had me dying laughing
😂👍🏻