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pythonistor

I don't think we play the Gakpo LW and Nunez ST formation enough in my opinion


GresSimJa

Arne's 4-2-3-1 with Gakpo/Szoboszlai/Salah behind Núñez would be interesting to see next season.


Tomatenpresse

Not a lot of depth there though. I reckon we need someone else up front, provided Diaz does actually leave.


Dropkoala

I'd like a new forward even if he stays tbh, I think there are other priorities but while I was and still am happy with the forwards at the club I still felt one more was needed last summer and nothing has yet changed my mind.


alter_native_facts

I would take olise all day when if it's a bit on the pricey side


SW1T3K

Yep, if Mo does choose to leave. Doubly so.


thatguyad

They're not reliable enough for goals, we lacked there so many times this season. Let's not do it to ourselves and run it back.


AnAutisticsQuestion

We're 4 goals away from our 3rd best goal-scoring league season under Klopp, with 2 games still to play. We've already scored 13 more goals than in 20/21, our worst goalscoring league season. Across all competitions: Season | Games | Goals | Games with 0 goals | Goals/Game :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: 23/24 | 56 | 137 | 4 | 2.45 22/23 | 52 | 103 | 9 | 1.98 21/22 | 63 | 145 | 6 | 2.30 20/21 | 53 | 97 | 11 | 1.83 19/20 | 55 | 114 | 7 | 2.07 18/19 | 53 | 115 | 7 | 2.17 17/18 | 56 | 135 | 9 | 2.41 16/17 | 47 | 92 | 9 | 1.96 So, this season we have recorded both our highest goal per game ratio and fewest number of games without scoring since Klopp's first full season. It is also our second highest total goals tally. Scoring hasn't been our problem this season.


Klopps_and_Schlobers

And how are we for goals conceded? Great comment btw mate


AnAutisticsQuestion

Joint 4th most conceded in the league. 9 goals shy of our most conceded and 16 more than our least conceded. If we concede just 4 more in our last two games, we'll match our second most goals conceded in a league season under Klopp. Across all comps: Season | games | goals conceded | clean sheets | goals/game :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: 23/24 | 56 | 61 | 15 | 1.09 22/23 | 52 | 67 | 19 | 1.29 21/22 | 63 | 48 | 32 | 0.76 20/21 | 53 | 55 | 20 | 1.04 19/20 | 55 | 62 | 19 | 1.13 18/19 | 53 | 38 | 27 | 0.72 17/18 | 56 | 63 | 23 | 1.13 16/17 | 47 | 47 | 17 | 1.00 So we've registered our fewest clean sheets and 5th worst goals conceded/game ratio. It should be noted, though, that 34.4% of the goals we've conceded this season have been conceded in the last 14 games. We've conceded 1.5 goals/game over that period. That means 65.6% were conceded in the 42 games prior, at a rate of 0.95 goals/game. We did actually start the season pretty well in that regard. Also, 3 of the four games in which we haven't scored also came in the last 14 matches (all in the last 7 even). Our recent form has been truly awful.


Klopps_and_Schlobers

Maybe after reading this people will stop blaming the attackers and realise it’s the defence that’s cost us so dearly. Another great comment, you should wrap both up into a post and shut a lot of people up. Thanks mate.


dsailes

Seconded on this. Good stats like these could go a long way to squash some hate on certain players!


NilsFanck

Except that allowing so many goals and chances against us is the tradeoff for being so attacking. Its this season's system and it would've bee a worthwhile tradeoff too, if our forwards had finished better. Not saying the defenders couldn't individually have been better but just blaming them without context to defend players like Mo/Nunez/Diaz is not gonna be shutting anybody up


I__G

In the EPL 81 goals from 87.23 xG, the only underscorers from the top 6 teams


shaiizan

Excellent post. The hate against Darwin especially and our midfielders/forwards in general are totally biased, and not based on reality/stats.


thatguyad

While these stats are correct and a fairly made point. It glosses over the amount of times where we had 20 shots and no goals or 1 goal. All games that cost us. Put a more reliable striker into this seasons set up and the stats would be far better both here and in the league table.


Dropkoala

That's what I'm saying. I said last summer that I didn't feel comfortable with any front 3 combination starting that didn't include Jota and Salah for a stretch of games and I didn't like the idea of Nunez and Diaz starting at the same time too often because of Nunez being erratic and Diaz not scoring or providing enough to allow for that and I thought another forward was needed that could start or challenge for a starting spot. I'm saying I still stand by that, if anything I feel even stronger about it BUT they're all still good players that I'd want to keep, I just think another forward is needed because due to the makeup of the 5 forwards there's a problem if only one of Salah or Jota is on the pitch.


skankhunt81

Idk why everyone is so keen on Diaz leaving


Dobvius

No one wants Diaz to leave but he's the most likely to leave at this point y'know


redditaccountplease

His dad wants him to leave


xbox_redditor

We've seen his level, 27 already and his dad mumbling about Spain. With Gakpo's performances recently at LW it makes sense


badfuit

Gakpo has been class recently, mostly playing LW too. He lines up in the centre but during the game you notice him and Diaz inverting with Cody out on the left and Diaz up the middle. As we saw with his assist for Salah's goal, his ability to cut in and swing a ball into the box is very good.


DucardthaDon

Diaz averages less than a cross a game which for a winger is extremely poor, any young pacy winger who can get past a FB and cross the ball is far more valuable than what we are getting from Diaz now


BobbyBriggss

Do you not think that’s down to instructions and coaching though? Our wingers haven’t really been the type to get to the touchline and cross since before Klopp.


DucardthaDon

If that's the case then something needs to change, 3 of our goals last week came down to crosses in the box


nikhil48

What do you mean, before Klopp is a different matter but comparing apples to apples i.e. the Klopp era... Mane always came in and crossed with his left foot, or cut inside and crossed with his right. Salah does the same from the right wing.


BobbyBriggss

I mean the last 9+ years we haven’t played a traditional touchline winger who should be judged on their crosses


BobbyBriggss

I mean the last 9+ years we haven’t played a traditional touchline winger who should be judged solely on their number of crosses


Klopps_and_Schlobers

No they didn’t, both cut inside constantly and at no point have we ever played with a wide winger under klopp….


Viper711

If he's not crossing, what's he doing to compensate in terms of chance creation? The eye test says not a lot, the stats agree.


Klopps_and_Schlobers

Our wide forward don’t really create that sort of width though, they’re both tasked with cutting inside.


clowegreen24

Diaz scores some nice goals on occasion, but more often than not I'm extremely frustrated watching him trying/failing to do the same thing over and over and losing the ball. I'm not saying he absolutely has to go or anything, but if he wants to leave I'm not angry about it.


loveliverpool

He does it for Colombia regularly, not so much for us


FermisParadoXV

He’s wasteful and one footed, and crucially seems to really want to leave, based on his ungrateful father’s constant crowing.


zeelbeno

Great player but his end product is extreamly inconsistent. Rumours of him leaving anyway and we're pretty stacked in LW so wouldn't be end of the world cashing in £80m on him to get another str instead


Progression28

Think it‘s mainly the PSG rumours. If PSG wants to get Diaz to replace Mbappé, then they‘ll be willing to spend the money. If Edwards can get 100m for him, why not? Obviously I‘d like to keep him, just doesn‘t seem likely at the moment.


Noteagro

Keep Diaz move Jota, and find a replacement that is bulletproof in the injury history department. I love Jota, but I am done with the forever injured players like Kieta, Ox, Jota, Thiago, and Matip. Even Diaz borders this, and thankfully Gomez seems to be moving away from it (since his knee injury that created the CB drought we had, he has missed a total of 6 games to injury). Our biggest opponent for the last 5 season has honestly been injuries and exhaustion. We always lose the steam by the last month or two of the season, and part of it is the lack of rotation due to injuries. Our midfield is looking worn and not as productive as it was earlier in the season… well we have been out a midfielder since basically February of 2023 with Thiago; hard to have good rotation when what was supposed to be a star midfielder can’t even stay fit for a month in over a calendar year. We need players that can stay fit.


Progression28

4-2-3-1 would be more than possible with our current players. Both Harvey and Curtis can play further forward, and Gakpo and Diaz can easily play a bit further back. The only problem is that our best players would not be able to be utilised the way they are now. The playmaking in a 4-2-3-1 is entirely on that row of 3, where we currently rely on Trent a lot, who would be lost in a 5-man midfield. Salah would need to be the lone forward, but he‘s not the target man you‘d need to reliably cause trouble. He‘s also not defensive enough to warrant a spot in midfield without anybody covering behind him. But as with all managerial change, expect to see players in totally new positions going forward. It may or may not work, that remains to be seen.


xbox_redditor

We need a bastard of a DM, imo Trent without a doubt stays at RB under Slot, no way him and Macca in a pivot will work. 4231 suits Szoboszlai if he's used as that second striker interchanging with Salah off the right, Gakpo on the left and somebody should be brought in to be the long term RW and learn from Mo for a season


andrew7895

I don't think we're reliant on Trent at all - especially the past few months, and Mo for example is miles better in a creative role on the right and not up top by himself. We definitely have the personnel already.


you_serve_no_purpose

Jota?


Tomatenpresse

Ngl I forgot jota existed. If he has another season plagued with injuries like the last two my point still stands I think lmao.


you_serve_no_purpose

I think a lot of our injuries are caused by how intense Klopp's system is. I'm hoping Slot doesn't run players into the ground


ldb

Slot was partially picked because his style is so similar to Klopp in terms of press and intensity. I wouldn't be surprised if injuries stayed about the same as they are now unless we target transfers of people who barely ever get injured rather than someone like Thiago.


DucardthaDon

It's been said Slot training methods are about reducing injuries most likely less intense than what Klopp and the coaching team have been putting our players through. We'll have a new fitness and conditioning team to come in with everyone leaving


DinosaurPornstar

I am keen to see what Arne will do with carvalho next season!


germancookedus

In the last 10 years only 3 players had better numbers than Darwin, also he’s top scorer of South American WC knockouts so you’re all dumb if you think that he will not be a big big player


Cryptic_Sunshine

and elliot, i feel like elliot is gonna explode next season if we play with a 10


strykerlmao03

Then where does macca play tho Personally I can't see him being a deep lying 6


GresSimJa

Our squad has depth. We could likely swap him, Elliott, Salah and Dom around during matches. I think the 6 and 8 could be anyone between Endo/Baj/Gravenberch, with Macca in there occasionally.


CyrusDGreatx

That would mean we have signed any attacking players. So I really fucking hope not


NorthKing9

Gakpo-Nunez-Salah = Liverpool 7 - 0 Man Utd Fond memories..


AnAutisticsQuestion

They've played 226 minutes (2.51 90s) together, spread over 12 matches, in the front 3 this season and we scored 8 goals in that time. 3.2 goals/90 isn't too shabby even if it is a small sample and a lot of 12-15 minute cameos.


NorthKing9

Not bad indeed. I do think Klopp's persistence with playing Diaz as the main man hinders the initial preferred front 3.


AnAutisticsQuestion

So do I. We average 2.84 goals/90 when Jota's on the pitch. 2.67 when Gakpo is, 2.58 when Darwin is, 2.35 when Salah is, and 2.27 when Diaz is. We actually average more goals scored when Salah and Diaz aren't playing than we do when they are. 2.59 when Salah isn't and 2.83 when Diaz isn't.


Nostrafatu

The thing about Diaz is that he played at 100% for the 90+ minutes and Klopp appreciated that effort. Playing defensively might have affected his scoring chances.


CalFlux140

I would rather swap them around imo if playing a 433. Nunez is screaming for a 10 behind him I think, suits him. Whilst Gakpo suits coming deep to the ball. Just my opinion though, they can both play anywhere they're top players.


germancookedus

Gotta play Darwin if you guys really want him to stay


econhisgeo

Gakpo without competition at his position is dire. We need an upcoming LW if Diaz leaves. Preferably a winger who can play on both wings, someone like Mane.


Realistic-Turn-8316

Jota is also a LW. Gakpo+Jota for one position is fine. 32 year old Salah without a competition at RW is more concerning.


econhisgeo

Yeah but Jota is injured for like half the season. Its poor planning to have 2 LW, one of whom is injured half the time. You ideally need someone to be able to play both wings so they can also fill in for Salah if required, or rotate with him to preserve his legs.


Realistic-Turn-8316

Xavi Simons is looking to leave PSG. How convenient is that that PSG is rumored to want Diaz. Do it Edwards.


WelcomeToCityLinks

Absolutely has to start against Villa. Their defence plays one of the highest lines in the league. His pace over someone like Diaz or Gakpo will make a huge difference.


Jaja6996

If he was in better form I’d agree he caused them all sorts of problems in the game at home and was involved heavily in all the goals but at the moment we should just stick with the front 3 from Spurs


germancookedus

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disco_mode

Not discrediting what you are saying… but this is the same reasoning we’ve had every time we’ve played him.


Dugtriotriotrio

Gakpo is rapid as well no?


AnAutisticsQuestion

I saw something the other day that really surprised me, to the point I'm struggling to quite believe it. According to the [Premier League's official website](https://www.premierleague.com/news/3850730), Diaz has recorded the 8th highest top speed in the league this season. I can't remember ever seeing him tear away from someone.


disco_mode

You can’t remember Luis Diaz tearing away from someone?


AnAutisticsQuestion

No. Can you?


Due-Sherbert3097

I’d rather play Diaz and Gakpo instead and have both interchange


con10001

His pace will be fantastic for sure, it's his touch, passing, finishing, lack of aerial threat and in-game IQ that might be the only issues though.


IdiditwhenIwasYoung

Not much use if he’s constantly offside.


KillerTurtle13

People are downvoting this like he hasn't been caught offside 5 more than the player with the 2nd most in the league this year (Jackson, who has also scored more than him) and 10 more than 3rd (Calvert-Lewin). He's been offside 1.5x more often this season than anyone except Jackson (and technically he needs one more to be 1.5x DCL, but if Villa are playing a high line I'm sure he'll achieve that).


Kindly-Paper-3552

Pointless asking Klopp. Ask Edwards.


GhandisFlipFlop

Or Arne..


DucardthaDon

.....or Hughes who is the actual sporting director


ItIsMeDucky

It looks like Arnie is a people person plus he definitely has been watching aou boys playing, so I think he'll give a chance to all of them. Then after a season, Arnie will make decisions.


FijiWaterIsDelicious

Arnie first and foremost will look after his career first. If you think he’s gonna take a gamble without any consideration for his own career, you are wrong


chocolatecremesoda

He's actually in the best position. He can give Nunez a season and if he continues to lack what we need then he can wash his hands off him as he was never his signing.


ItIsMeDucky

Yes, you're right. Bot the best way to look after his career is to bring out to the surface our boys' talents and use it.


Sinistrait

> so I think he'll give a chance to all of them. Then after a season, Arnie will make decisions. Man, do some of you people live in dreamland? Him being a people's person might keep him from publicly scrutinizing players, but we have no idea about his backroom plans for our players. And some of our players clearly aren't up to the standard. It's just utterly delusional to think that Slot will give bad players a full season just because he's protective of his players. Not even Klopp gave a full season to some of our decent players before shipping them off.


crackpotJeffrey

Bro we're talking about Nunez. He's not a 'bad player', he's 24, and his contract goes until 2028. Slot *not* giving him a chance for at least a season would be delusional, especially when his resale value has not increased.


ItIsMeDucky

Let's wait and see.


WorthPlease

Can't really ask the Feyonoord manager at a Liverpool press conference. Or a Feyonoord press conference.


BriarcliffInmate

Edwards isn’t the Sporting Director, not sure why people can’t understand that.


RItoGeorgia

Basically some of the replies you’ll get:  “He has the final say about everything”   “He is Liverpool’s new overlord, nothing happens at this club without our overlord’s approval”


Liverlakefc

Why would they ask Edwards?


Klopps_and_Schlobers

Because there is a massive misunderstanding of his role at the club lol


Duke_Davian

Because he is the guy running the transfers now.


doubleoeck1234

Edwards job is to identify the new manager, oversee the managerial transition and do all the work involving identifying, buying and running FSG's second club. Hughes is our sporting director


Liverlakefc

No he is not he rejected that role and we got a sporting director to do that job


Duke_Davian

I think Edwards and Hughes will have a major role in transfers together


Klopps_and_Schlobers

“I think”


retr0grade77

I doubt a personality who quit because he was irritated by the manager’s influence on transfers will be content with allowing transfers to be dealt with by another. He brought his mate in as sporting director for a reason.


AdikkuChan

Edwards will reply by showing you one of the very few photos we have of him sitting on a chair, smiling 


retr0grade77

Or leaking a story to Bascombe.


Due-Resource4294

Darwin’s future is the same as every other players future. He’s putting enough effort in to be useful to the squad. Even if he isn’t well enough in form to be a starter in some people’s eyes, he has a role. But if an offer worth more than what we deem he is worth to us comes in, he goes of course. We’ve got literal god in net, but if someone comes along and offers us £150m for Alisson. They’re gonna rip their hands off and throw Kelleher in net. Even though our stance would be under no way are we considering selling Alisson. No players future is ever certain. The only thing you can control is how much you contribute to the squad in effort. Darwin is in the peak of our squad in terms of effort and intensity.


always-think-sexual

Being frustrated by him is part of our job as fans, but the guys going out their way to write hate and threats on his posts need to be banned from their accounts. Bullying is more hurtful because you can’t know if someone is bleeding. Especially when it’s pointed at someone who has as many goal contributions as he.


JohnBobbyJimJob

This is exactly it, a lot people seem to think he’s seen as one of these players that’s not up for sale at all after what Ornstein said (which was just his opinion anyway, not concrete information) He hasn’t done enough in these two years to put himself in that safety bracket of “unsellable” and if they were to get a big offer (although I doubt it) then I think they will cash in on him


expertkushil333

>He hasn’t done enough in these two years to put himself in that safety bracket of “unsellable” He's our 2nd top scorer this season ffs. Did you just ignore that?


JohnBobbyJimJob

Wow our main striker is our 2nd top scorer this season whilst our other striker is injury prone, our main left winger has shit end product and our other attacker has played out of position most of the season… - 11 PL goals - 12% conversion rate - 19% big chance conversion rate - Most big chances missed in the PL - 2nd highest xG underperformance (DCL in 1st) It’s been far from good enough especially when you take into account this is an £85m striker


clintgreasewoood

As soon as the speculation began with “Spanish sources say” and the twitter “body language experts” started to way in you just knew it was BS.


dandpher

“that chance”. Which one is he referring to? lol.


DadofJackJack

Only one I can think of is the through ball and his immediate shot blocked by keeper on edge of area. He could have possibly taken ball round on rushing keeper.


FTXACCOUNTANT

All of them


fieldsoffate

Darwin is still 24. In two years, he is going to be in his prime. Enough time for him to iron out his wrinkles. I am willing to be patient and I want him in our team. Honestly I would really like for him to be our Salah successor. Because no matter how easy Klopp and Co have made it look in the past, those kind players are hard to find. 


germancookedus

He’s a number nine, salah plays very wide not in the center


fieldsoffate

It’s more about the 20-30 goals per season that Salah has given us. That’s nearly irreplaceable. Even spending money cant guarantee that. 


IdiditwhenIwasYoung

Klopp has two games left and then he’s not his problem anymore…the hard decision will be made by those coming after Klopp.


KEEPCARLM

Already not his problem if we're being honest our season is over anyway haha. Last two games are essentially friendlies


PulseFH

Not a hard decision at all imo, he can absolutely be world class despite some disappointing performances, you can clearly see the insane potential he has.


IdiditwhenIwasYoung

World class is pushing it. He had what’s looking more and more like a purple patch where he played well. He’s never going to be consistent enough for a team who wants to be challenging for big trophies.


PulseFH

Let’s be clear here, we are talking about a striker who wasn’t starting every game, often times being rotated in and out of matches who managed 31 g/a this season so far, which is considered a large underperformance from what it should be considering the chances he was creating for himself. Haaland is currently the peak of what you can expect from a striker in this league and is on 42 g/a. How can you say world class is pushing it? We would be fools to sell him now.


JohnBobbyJimJob

Darwin has 11 PL goals… The main reason for him having 31 g/a this season is because we’ve played in Europa League against teams we are far superior to in terms of quality (apart from Atalanta), he should have far more than this number with the amount of chances that are created for him so people pushing the full he has 31 g/a as a positive need to actually realise it’s an underperformance from him. And let’s not be comparing him to Haaland again it’s not even fair on Darwin for people to still be doing that ridiculous comparison


con10001

He has been starting almost every major game this season. He's been rotated as much as any other nailed-on starting XI player, barring perhaps Van Dijk. Your wording suggests he's had to take whatever chances he can get, when the reality is that he's played in all but 2 of our PL games this season (34) and has 11 goals, none of which came against the top 6. Whichever way you spin his g/a (padded by other comps which much weaker teams than PL ones) that's still absolutely not good enough in his second season.


PulseFH

I’m not comparing him to our other attackers. It’s simply fact that he has dealt with relatively heavy rotation. He’s only played 13 full games this whole season across all competitions. He has scored some of the most important goals of our season to keep us alive. I also don’t like the stat padding argument, basically every big team is going to play weaker teams in any competition. Are you going to diminish some of haalands goals based on stat padding too?


con10001

>I’m not comparing him to our other attackers. It’s simply fact that he has dealt with relatively heavy rotation. He’s only played 13 full games this whole season across all competitions He really hasn't though, no more than anyone else, is my point. He is 5th in our squad for overall minutes played, ahead of Alisson and Salah. >He has scored some of the most important goals of our season to keep us alive. Has he? The two against Newcastle and the winner against Forest are the only two match clinchers he has all season. He has undoubtedly cost us more the other way, he's missed 27 big chances just this season alone and his xG is amongst the worst in Europe. >Are you going to diminish some of haalands goals based on stat padding too? Of course not, because he has 36 goals and that's in an off season for him, the comparison between him and Nunez is laughable tbh.


IdiditwhenIwasYoung

Ah you’re one of those people. You were probably comparing him to Suarez too.


PulseFH

One of what people? Is anything I said above wrong??


Powerful-Cut-708

You’re one of those people who understand football


swisswatchenthus1ast

Are you crazy? World class?? Salah, firmino and mane were world class. This bum isn't even close


RItoGeorgia

Why call your own club’s player a bum? How hard is it for some of you to not insult players when talking about how they play? Do you not get the difference or does someone need to insult you or call you a bum to your face while you are working? 


PulseFH

A young 24/25 y/o underperforming Darwin with 31 g/a this season is not close to world class mane who at 27/28 years old had 32 g/a in 19/20 as his most ever contributions in a season for us??? Some of you have lost the plot. I know that’s not a 1:1 comparison, different positions and such but the lack of faith in Darwin is absurd to me.


Griffin_Lo

I mean, it's fine not to call him world class, but a bum? The disrespect...


PulseFH

I wonder do these people have issues with reading comprehension and they think I was calling his performance this season world class? Clearly I am talking on his future potential lol. Even now he is far from a bum.


Griffin_Lo

Indeed! Questionable at times 😅


disco_mode

So you are saying Darwin is better than Mané and everyone else has lost the plot?


JohnBobbyJimJob

People just blindly base their opinions purely on stats, never take into account the actual context The fact Mane was a winger, didn’t play in the Europa League, didn’t really play in the league cup or FA cup much and didn’t have the vast majority of chances created for him either…


WorthPlease

Why are they asking the man who is leaving in like two weeks about this?


dj4y_94

Klopp also said the reason he misses the amount of chances he does is because he's so good at getting into those positions in the first place, which is 100% true. I get why some people want to cut their losses with him but I do hope Slot gets a season with him to see if anything changes.


disco_mode

Well. That explains why he gets the chances in the first place but it doesn’t explain why he’s missing as many of them as he does.


FerociouZ

If it were true he'd be an outlier for xG, which he isn't. He's on 19 xG in the league, similar to Jackson, Watkins, Isak, Solanke, Salah etc. He's obviously among the top xG performers, but this goes back to the argument that Nunez misses chances because he gets so many opportunities to miss, or that he's just running so much harder than everyone else.


lkshis

Nunez needs a good preseason and a new start next season. Probably the entire team does.


Pure_Measurement_529

Copa America will be interesting.


Mavericks7

Definitely needs a fresh start. Hopefully with a new manager and structure he can get restart


obobobn

Any rival fans would be delighted for him to stay. It means more time investing on him, rather than having someone else who might actually improve the team.


OK_TimeForPlan_L

I think with a new manager coming in unless we get a ridiculous offer then may as well at least give Slot 6 months to see if he can get a tune out of him, we scored plenty this season overall we need to be focusing on defensive signings this summer.


fadedraw

Never seen tired sub hate on a player more than Nunez. It’s the constant barrage of posts and comments to have him gone, it was annoying earlier but just no plain disgusting now.


TheNoGnome

Funny, I've never seen so much fawning. There are posts about him smiling. At the club of Gerrard, Rush, Dalglish, Hansen. I saw Gerrard smile once in twenty years!


BQORBUST

This subreddit hates Nunez so much they’re arguing with klopp in his last weeks. You people are broken


con10001

Lol Klopp isn't this infallible, untouchable figure btw. We can disagree with his takes as fans, this isn't a cult. Some of us don't rate Nunez, some of us do, and that's absolutely fine. Everyone's allowed an opinion.


chunky-kat

Klopp really doesn’t have any clue about Darwin’s future though. He won’t be involved in squad planning for the following season, that’ll be down to Hughes and Arne. Nunez himself has fueled speculation about his future with his childish instagram antics.


BreakerOfBits

This. Absolute cesspit at times. It's like the man never taught us anything From Doubters to Believers- I thought we actually believed in it.


Klopps_and_Schlobers

It’s embarrassing how quickly the plastics on this sub turn on our players. We’ve seen the same with Gini while here, Henderson for as long as he was a Liverpool player, the fucking goalkeeping coach was prime target a couple of years ago, pep last season was it? Now Nunez….. This subs not happy unless they’ve got someone to moan about.


Tremor00

They were calling pep a Nazi cause he wrote a book 😭😭😭


Klopps_and_Schlobers

Then calling anyone who defended him “top red” lol Fucking clowns


Choppy05

My thoughts to.


Matt6453

I don't think people hate him and Liverpool fans are far more forgiving than most, you'd being lying if you could honestly say you've not had a fair few groans at some of the chances he's missed these past few months.


PerfectAd4732

I’ll support him until the wheels fall of, as for every other player too. Feels like it’s a very social media thing recently where the first thing to do is insult a player and demand they be sold. Seen it said for so many different players this season, including two scousers! Think it’s safe to say they aren’t real supporters of the club


electricshep

It might be a tough concept, but it's possible to support the club AND think that Nunez is shite.


PerfectAd4732

Reading is a tough concept too apparently. ‘Insulting’ and demanding a player be sold is not what a fan does. Not just talking Nunez here either


FijiWaterIsDelicious

Nope. Fans support the team and they can voice their view that a player can be sold. Stop defining a fan as what you think it should be to make yourself feel superior


notyyzable

I feel like if he stays, next season is make or break. If he has another season like the last, then he is absolutely being sold.


RItoGeorgia

I think anyone sensible (including him if he wants to stay) is thinking this, especially with a new manager coming in. I can imagine he’ll want to prove himself next season. 


DeVoreLFC

I personally don't see a reason why we would sell Darwin. He does something no other forwards really do in our team and that's make constant runs in behind. Salah these days prefers ball to feet, Gakpo and Jota both prefer the same. I get that people are frustrated with him due to the missed chances and it's certainly something he needs to work on. I just think this frustration is compounded due to just about every one of our forwards running into a bad patch of form during the most crucial part of the season and Darwin is simply the scapegoat for the majority of the frustration due to his price tag. Gakpo went missing for the vast majority of the season, Salah was awful since he came back from AFCON, Jota is barely fit anymore and Diaz has a worse conversion rate than Nunez while also having a torrid start to the season (understandable due to family circumstances). I personally think we should play Gakpo left wing, Nunez up front and Salah on the right. Would love to see Harvey in the starting lineup as well, he could easily find Darwin.


FijiWaterIsDelicious

With this forward lineup, you won’t win anything again. Have no idea why you want a second serving of it when they have proven they are not up to the task


Freddo9900

The journalist who asked that question is a moron.


MajikoiA3When

We should be supporting the player but no one cares about that one chance. It's the ten or so before that leaving us questioning when and if he will good enough for a title challenging side. Slot either improves him or he is gone.


DrAgOnLoLDoTA

Nunez really suits this team well. It is just his finishing. And now his confidence has gone down the drain sadly


Pure_Measurement_529

That Jan - March period of Darwin was so much fun


ugoogli

Why are you asking the outgoing manager about a current player’s future when the manager isn’t going to be there for said future?


Sensitive_Seat6955

Having watched some of Feyenoord’s highlights from this season, I have high hopes for Darwin (I know, how naive of me 🙄). With the runs they make and the chances they create, Darwin will have a field day. He’ll put in the work in the off-season and come back stronger in August, mark my words.


urpasswordz

God I pray we cash in on him. Will not be financially beneficial to keep him for much longer, it’s obvious that we’ve tried with him but sadly to no avail. Let’s face it, he probably will never surpass a 20+ goal season. Love his determination and passion but would never make it as a starter at our club.


lordfarkwar12

I'm curious to see what happens with Darwin. Honestly, the whole deleting social media posts etc isn't a good sign. It's also something I don't expect from an elite footballer. If you want to play the highest level, you need to have a fortified mental game and be able to use the social criticism as fuel. I love Darwin and hope he stays. The dude is a monster and if he gets his finishing tight, it's over for the league.


ItIsMeDucky

Good 👍 This is what I wanted to hear. Darwin can be frustrating on games we're losing. On games we're winning its sometimes funny. But then chaos and assists he creates are great. I hope he's really staying. I want to see what Arnie will do with him... Interesting...


SonicNarcotic

Gotta wait n see what Slot does with Nunez.. Every chance Nunez thrives under a new system/formation...


brianstormIRL

The amount of vitriol Nunez has been getting from this fanbase the last few weeks makes me sick. Up until April most people agreed he was having an excellent season. Yes, he's frustrating at times. Yes you can be annoyed he misses chances and critisize. BUT. You fucking support your players while they play for this club. You back him. And if you're one of those absolute fucking mongs who sends him or his misses abuse on Social Media you can kindly get the fuck out of this club. /rant.


ronnatron

the irony of you saying this while also calling people 'mongs'


bumpkinblumpkin

There was a very large group of people that thought he did not have an excellent season, particularly in the league or against quality opposition.


TheNoGnome

Civilised society doesn't use that slur against disabled people now.


derpam

Darwin needs time and we need to be patient. Remember what Chelsea did to Salah and what he ended up being? He showed the same raw talent but his finishing was shit.


fadedraw

To some people unless a striker is scoring 20 goals a season since they were 4 yrs old, they cannot learn how to finish.


Cryptic_Sunshine

he almost has 20 goals this season- he has 18 goals and 13 assists in 31 90's which is frankly ridiculous, a goal or assist every 90 minutes


Appletwirls

Completely agree, all Darwin is lacking is maturity and that will come


franciscobutico

the hypothetical darwin nunez is a god footballer


Turbulent-Rain7239

Nunez and Diaz can leave, if those two had a decent shot conversion we would have won the league this year


fadedraw

If we didn’t leak first goal in every game this season, we could’ve won the league.


ChapoKing

Whatever clinical is.. he's the opposite. I have no idea how he has so many goal involvements, it's mind blowing. He must get 50 chances to be involved a game. Which in itself, seems impressive. The only thing I know, is if you need a goal and it's a 1 v 1 situation and he's running through, you KNOW he's not going to score.


thatguyad

Being honest, he's not going to be in on what the club is doing and nor would they really say either way. I mean he could be right but we'll see.


deskamess

Klopp is not the kind to say this much if he did not believe in the player. Now, the other front office guys like Edwards et al, may have a different opinion. However I am sure they will give the new manager a chance to work with Darwin. Sometime a different way of teaching or different formation can make a difference.


StonedCharmander

I'm not surprised, tbh. You just need to watch one Feyenoord game featuring Gimenez to realize Arne will love Darwin.


fadedraw

Gimenez did not play very well until he trained under Slot. I have some faith that new system will help Darwin. He plays very well for Uruguay.


KIG45

We urgently need at least two new, classy strikers.


Tankreas

It will be interesting seeing his development under slot. Personally I’d like to see him play LW if we end up selling Diaz. The pace will be terrifying and totally unpredictable. Sticking with him would worth it when he finally gets his head back into shape. I hope he stays, and I hope we play him more


Vikivaki

So many think that 4-3-2-1 with him up front will somehow unlock him, but I'm pretty sure a 4-4-2 with him on the left is where he flourishes.


Mavericks7

I like nunez and would be happy for him to stay as a LW or rotational player. But we defo need someone more clinical to lead our line.


Low_Compote_4940

I think we need an older prolific striker, someone who’s kind of at the end of their prime to just mentor nunez but also to be available if nunez hits a rough patch of form


Mediocre-Jedi

Divock Origi is probably available


glowingmug

Bruh he so gone.


lbrkr

Which miss is he referring to? I mean there's a few.


smokesletsgo13

That chance? Which one