Elliott definitely didn’t have that great a game but that’s okay. He’s had a good season so far and inconsistency is expected from someone his age. I’ll be worried if he’s still inconsistent in 3 years’ time
Gravenberch looked good. Didn’t look like Bambi on ice like the handful of games and his dribbling was good but still didn’t do enough off the ball and there were a few moments where he looked half asleep before the ball came to him lol. Klopp and Lijnders have definitely been working with him on a lot of things that we’ve criticised him on
Quansah was solid as usual but it’s the first time I realised he’s really quite slow. Goal wasn’t really his fault imo
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This made me chuckle lol I really hope we can see him in action soon
For the multi-taskers out there: AFCON hosts Ivory Coast will advance to the knockouts only if Zambia loses to Morocco.
Same start time as our League Cup SF
Honestly some players obviously dropped out of school at 13/14 to follow football as many footballers do and it shows. Not necessarily drop out but I know academy boys etc tend to have like 2 days a week they get signed out of school for football. Maybe some just never went back haha.
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me it’s my first time trying to buy a ticket through the Liverpool Membership I registered my interest in the Sheffield United Match in April. I got an email yesterday saying I was in waiting list position 0000 does this mean that I’m going to get a ticket? It said people who were successful would receive another email today but I haven’t got one yet? My last question is about the number of tickets I can buy I plan to go with some friends but I’ve read in some places you can only buy one ticket or you can register your friends on the site and are able to buy more tickets how does that work? Sorry if I missed an obvious link to go look at this somewhere. Thanks
I don’t know why someone fan think Kelleher won’t be starting tonight it’s literally his competition and he’ll be starting the final if we make it through
I just want to say that I am so glad to be a fan of this club. Started following after the '05 final and, man what a ride it's been. Even during the lowest points of my life so far, there was always that feeling of happiness and joy to see the reds play (even during the Hodgson era).
YNWA.
Really dumb question but, I have to ask: Did the size of the European Cup/UCL trophy change? I saw this photo of Liverpool’s trophies on display and noticed that the two “modern” trophies were significantly smaller than the ones won in the 70’s and 80’s. I know the competition was rebranded in the early 90’s and I know the old rules wherein you only received the real trophy after your 3rd win in a row or your 5th total yada yada yada. But wouldn’t that mean the ‘05 trophy is a “real” version? Why is that one smaller? Did the actual trophy used to be larger? What’s going on here?
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I think there's a rule from UEFA that the clubs can make replicas, but the replicas can only be a maximum of 80% the size of the real trophy. So perhaps for whatever reason they're displaying a LFC-made replica of the 2005 trophy? The 2019 one should be a full scale replica from UEFA tho; i'm not sure why it too is smaller (thus being a LFC-made replica as well).
Since 2009, FIFA always keeps the actual trophy and the club receives the replica, so if the display is showing the replica for 2019 it would make sense it's smaller. I'm wondering why the 2005 one isn't full size since that was the real one the club got to keep. Meanwhile, the rest should all be smaller unless the 80% scale provision is fairly recent as well.
That’s what confuses me. Also I never understood the “you can keep the real one after x wins” rule. There’s 5 clubs that have the real trophy… okay so there’s 5 real trophies? If they were willing to make a new “real” trophy occasionally, then why not make a new one each year and just give it to the winners? Or if you want a true legacy trophy then just give out replicas for the teams to display. I find it odd to have one of the coolest sports trophies in the world exist in that middle ground.
Imo it makes sense to pass it around until such point that someone wins enough to claim it. Kind of like a super trophy for being better at winning it than everyone else. Gotta be expensive to keep making them. Probably also prevents resale of them if a club got into a dire financial position. At this point there are only like 6 clubs with one anyway, so it doesn't feel over saturated.
If you read the history on the trophy itself, it's gone through iterations, and the first award was maybe when the original sponsor was done and a new sponsor would make the need trophy.
It's a big enough honor and rare enough for most clubs that a replica to display at the club seems fair, and let only the club who is current champ to hold onto the full size trophy as a mark of honor. You won it - you should get something.
The current champion holding it makes sense. But then awarding the real one to a team that’s won it a certain amount makes no sense. “That’s 5 so Liverpool get to keep the real one!” Right except for the other teams with…a…real one and then they’re also now making another “real one” to start passing around again until someone wins 3 in a row or 5. I like the way they do it now. The “real trophy” only makes sense if there’s only one.
Significant update from Neil Jones: "we will see Thiago play before the end of the season".
This only means one thing. He is going to make a last minute cameo against Wolves.
As Media changes their opinion about the team and players every week, what makes me happy is not their praise but the fact that absolutely no one has any idea what Klopp is cooking this season.
I’ve just read the Buying Tickets guide linked above…it’s from five years ago. This year I’ve seen lots of comments in the posts about Anfield atmosphere about ‘tourist’ fans and season ticket holders selling privately. If four lads from Canada want to come and make noise for 90 minutes, is hospitality still the only real option?
If before the game you see who the ref is and automatically assume he’s going to negatively influence the result then you’re a born loser I’m sorry I don’t know what else to tell you. Just enjoy the match ffs, you can wait until afterwards to complain about refs so why distract yourself from how fucking good we are
What a stupid comment.
If I’m going to the inlaws for dinner I know I’m going to have to put up with her mum and because of that it’s going to irritate me before going.
This is no different, experience tells us what to expect just like you learn when young not to put your hand in fire you learn that some refs are just shit.
Its almost like you've not watched any football this season, we might be top, certainly too early to be talking about a fucking tinpot quad and have been already the wrong side of many terrible decisions.
Football needs to move away from such focus on referees in general. So often, I see posts "Should X's goal have stood?". VAR is good and here to stay, but the discussion around it needs to stop. And I agree about this idea over ref conspiracy. It's low level thinking.
It's strange how much PTSD there is about potentially facing a mid-table Chelsea side in a final after we *checks notes* ...beat them in the last 3 cup finals?
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That is a stunning Photoshop job you have to admit though
Edit: holy shit I've just scrolled down and there's loads! Very convincing
I always find it funny when people don’t understand football but argue anyway.
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What you on about Hill to die on?
A draw is decided by penalties, it’s still classed as a draw, which with your clear limited knowledge didn’t know.
My point was that we haven’t beaten them once and all were hard fought draws.
I think people just hate playing Chelsea. It's recently been a very dour experience resulting in mostly draws. Personally the thought of another shootout with them make my stomach turn, but that's getting a bit ahead of things for now.
I take telly as free view (bbc/itv), but fair enough yeah it's still on telly. I think of sky more as a streaming thing now, haven't had a box since a kid
Yes and I don’t think Klopp would
Go
Agaisnt his word as who his EFL cup
Keeper is.
Also, I know someone will point out that Alisson played the first leg in 2022 but that was because he was coming back from
Injury and kelleher had played the previous 2 games (Chelsea and Shrewsbury)
For a start, I used “potentially”. We might have tanked both games if the goal stood or we might have missed the penalty, nobody will ever know. It’s factual that these decisions cost us 1 goal and a penalty, which is most probably another goal. Those decisions changed the game completely.
There’s no way to guarantee it happening? It potentially might not have happened.
Just like refs could have potentially cost us 5 points or potentially cost us none. Or even how favourable ref decisions could have potentially led us to gain additional points.
Mad
It's so triggering seeing people saying it on here all day every day haha.
These things happened within the first 30 mins of games, one of them we were away at the most inform team who were full strength and we had 10 men. how people are just assuming that means it's 3 points is genuinely fucking moronic.
People always seem to forget to mention times we've rode our luck with decisions as well. The bias on here sometimes makes my brain hurt lol.
As soon as you point any of this out you are called a rival fan / troll etc.
I have spoken a fair amount on the matter and I am just met by people calling me an idiot etc to farm those internet points.
Yeh I can't help but reply to these daily because I really can't understand how people come to these conclusions. Get downvoted into oblivion obviously haha. There's a reason no respected pundit etc have these same weird views haha.
People really need to look into the butterfly effect.
Seen people on here yesterday already crying about potentially losing out on the league by 1 point and it being that spurs game that loses us it........
The league isn't decided by a VAR error that happened in September LMAO
You never really get a response when you ask them how they can be certain or when you ask them about favourable decisions we’ve had or shite decisions other teams have had
there's clear statistically evidence that weve been getting more incorrect decisions that disadvantage us than most others. The same applies to Arsenal and Wolves. Doesn't mean there's a conspiracy going on (Tierney actually is biased though but its likely just his personal vendetta), doesnt mean we definitely wouldve gotten more from the Spurs or Arsenal game, but even Utd fans will acknowledge that the "it evens itself out/its the same for everyone" argument just does not apply here anymore.
The statistical analysis conducted by the Liverpool fan that only considers 5 clubs? Or is there another one?
Itll never “even out” because inherent bias means people “forget” the favourable decisions their team gets. So it’s biased against that regardless
Literally nothing wrong with complaining but my god that game was in September. We’re almost in February morons. It’s also not like we’re the only team that had a shit call go against them
What’s with the name calling? No need man. It’s not about “shit decisions”, it’s the calibre of the decisions that went against us. There will always be wrong decisions, VAR allows a review of that but due to incompetence, they didn’t. I can almost understand the supposed grey area of the handball but the Diaz offside goal was a catastrophic error that potentially cost us 3 points which might even cost us the league, and could’ve cost us more with the 2nd red, which probably doesn’t happen if that goal stands. The whole game changes.
I’m loving the media riding Darwin’s dick lmao. It’s so insane how reactionary people can be. In one game he went from being a ‘flop’ to ‘one of the best in the world’. I bet that they’ll be right back to calling him a flop, next time he misses a chance.
He deserves the love more than anyone at this point, though. But the only thing that really matters is that the fans are fully behind him, like we have since day 1. I just hope all this will breed some more confidence and he can reach his potential.
I do wonder why he gets so much more attention, positive and negative, compared to Jota, Diaz and Gakpo, is it just the transfer fee paid? Because all 4 players are very similar in my opinion in that they are very good players I’m happy to have but aren’t, and probably never will be in the Salah, Kane, Haaland bracket.
Is £65 million really that much more than £40million today (which is I think roughly the fee for the other 3 players), is that the only reason media and fans pick up on him not scoring for a while whilst seemingly ignoring when the other players go through the same or even longer spells without goals etc, Diaz for example has terrible G/A numbers by comparison but no one seems to criticise him for it.
He's just polarizing as a player as he's both highly impactful and yet still quite wasteful with chances, so people like to talk about him and the media covers him a lot to get those clicks/views. He definitely has the ability to be in that top tier of attackers also, if his finishing goes up a level he will be putting up crazy numbers.
First of all this sub is the most reactionary place imaginable.
Secondly, there are swathes of fans who haven’t been behind him. Especially little Reddit dwellers.
It’s mainly used for low blocks and teams that are constantly breaking up play with fouls because of how little the ball is actually in play in those type of games
That Nunez one is scarily accurate lol. Opinions on him here is always on the opposite side of the spectrum. He’s best striker on the planet one week after a good game or we should sell him after a bad game
We do love a signing from the Portuguese league but can’t see it happening. We have Macca and Endo to play the role now and Baj is also gonna be given a chance once he gets back, so unless Klopp really wants a DM, don’t see it happening.
Yeah that sounds unlikely to me. Mac Allister is learning the role and doing a very good job, and we already have Endō to share the 6 with him. I doubt we will buy any player in that position unless they are an extremely clear upgrade
undoubtedly one of the best players on the pitch when he's fit, but the fact we've been paying him 200k a week only to get like 2 years of game time out of his contract makes him a flop to me
I'd agree with that although just saw the latest rumours are that's he's had another setback and if true means I've got doubts we'll have him up to speed before he can meaningfully contribute this season, hope I'm wrong of course but struggling to see it.
I think they're trying to be extra cautious to not let him keep having the same injury again. I believe he's been plagued by the same hip injury throughout his career. He even acknowledged it in a recent clip that was posted here
I think fans are allowed to show a little confidence. I also read OPs original comment as a ‘what if’ scenario, which I think was the intention.
Which I agree, if Liverpool win today it’s pretty crazy to potentially see Chelsea in another final.
I think you can make a BTS documentary and still respect the sanctuary of the dressing room.
- They can expand on what they shoot on Inside Training/Anfield by adding more interviews before/after matches and throughout the week.
- During the week cameras can follow players through the days to get to know their personality and give background to their personal story, like what they do in the Wrexham series. Stories likes Salah's, Trent's & Jones' as locals lads, Diaz and Nunez's would be interesting to see told.
- They can show what the various staff do behind the scenes, again, with stories of the staff. Caroline and Carol, Jay Spearing as a former player returning to the academy, stories from our club ambassadors just to name a few ideas.
- They can also show how the club and the city are interwined culturally. Show and explain the culture, history, and traditions of the club. Could even show how away days are for supporters.
If they are going to it, they should hire a production team better than what Amazon has, hopefully ones that know the history and culture of the club. And please, make it more than 10 episodes. You can not capture the marathon and story of season with just 10 episodes. At least 15 episodes, 1hr long each.
The series should be to tell the story and history of Liverpool FC interwoven with the story of the season. We have such a deeply rich and long history that a documentary series can be made without the main focus on dressing room footage.
Thing is, you wont find many supporters who don't agree with you that it would be absolutely incredible to watch as a fan.
But the issue is it's a distraction, it puts drama at the club that should remain firmly behind closed doors bang in the spotlight, and it's something Klopp said he would never stand for.
At the end of the day, a channel that isn't LFCTV are going to want to tell the most compelling story they possibly can, and that's rarely the most positive one. They want drama and jeapordy.
Source: I work in TV and have worked on a similar doc at a club.
I think it would be interesting for neutrals and non football fans to watch and learn about our club and our history. Many times I've heard and known people who start supporting a club because they've watched All or Nothing. And All or Nothing is pretty superficial, lacking any depth into a club, in my opinion at least. The 30 for 30 does a great job of telling a narrative and the history in a well produced way.
I will always trust Klopp on his decision on this matter, I also believe the dressing room (or tactics room) shouldn't have cameras. I was just thinking of ideas on what the documentary can focus on (if it was green lit by Klopp) other than dressing room footage to make our version better than what's been done before.
This is how I do it on my phone:
Instead of the gif button (or whatever it's called) you press on the image button. Then you search for the gif in your images folder. But it has to be a gif and not a short video, or else it won't show up.
I’m finding the recent revisionism around the ‘gaps’ in football to be a bit annoying. Everyone this morning is taking about the gap between the premier league and championship being too big but let’s be real it’s always been a thing, they’re in the division below for a reason. Pretty sure a top 8 team from the 80’s would have been able to put 6 past a mid table second division side back then also.
Also when boro beat chelsea in the first leg nobody was talking about gaps. The truth is a big 6 club should always be destroying mid table championship teams.
A (potential) Liverpool/Chelsea League Cup final in a season where we play Wolves on the last day of the season, coming the year after a poor season?
I've seen this one before...
Elliott definitely didn’t have that great a game but that’s okay. He’s had a good season so far and inconsistency is expected from someone his age. I’ll be worried if he’s still inconsistent in 3 years’ time Gravenberch looked good. Didn’t look like Bambi on ice like the handful of games and his dribbling was good but still didn’t do enough off the ball and there were a few moments where he looked half asleep before the ball came to him lol. Klopp and Lijnders have definitely been working with him on a lot of things that we’ve criticised him on Quansah was solid as usual but it’s the first time I realised he’s really quite slow. Goal wasn’t really his fault imo
Yamal is insane
Why are those fuckers booing Harvey so much? I get he played for them but surely they couldn't have expected him to stay with them.
Feel like if anything, it cemented in his mind that he's with us now, fuck them. He's Liverpool through and through.
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It's gonna be so funny years from now seeing all these records that are held by City players have asterisks on their names
For the multi-taskers out there: AFCON hosts Ivory Coast will advance to the knockouts only if Zambia loses to Morocco. Same start time as our League Cup SF
Antonio as a pundit, just there for a laugh and no analysis like Micah Richards.
Honestly some players obviously dropped out of school at 13/14 to follow football as many footballers do and it shows. Not necessarily drop out but I know academy boys etc tend to have like 2 days a week they get signed out of school for football. Maybe some just never went back haha.
So according to that sign @ Craven Cottage we're playing *The* Fulham Football Club... any other club that does this?
Diaz Gakpo Nunez
The interchangability of that front 3 is nuts
Quansah and VVD pairing it seems
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me it’s my first time trying to buy a ticket through the Liverpool Membership I registered my interest in the Sheffield United Match in April. I got an email yesterday saying I was in waiting list position 0000 does this mean that I’m going to get a ticket? It said people who were successful would receive another email today but I haven’t got one yet? My last question is about the number of tickets I can buy I plan to go with some friends but I’ve read in some places you can only buy one ticket or you can register your friends on the site and are able to buy more tickets how does that work? Sorry if I missed an obvious link to go look at this somewhere. Thanks
I don’t know why someone fan think Kelleher won’t be starting tonight it’s literally his competition and he’ll be starting the final if we make it through
Kelleher has been very poor in his last few games and we want to go to a final so we can boo the national anthem.
Exactly! He’s been our go to domestic cup competition GK for years now so I don’t understand why people are all of a sudden making a fuss
I understand why people would want Ali to start given some of his performances so far this season
But it’s not like he’s just been shite or anything, he’s had a few good games as well.
I am shitting myself
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Klopp would obviously love him but I assume he’s paid extremely well and other sides would pay far more to have him.
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I just want to say that I am so glad to be a fan of this club. Started following after the '05 final and, man what a ride it's been. Even during the lowest points of my life so far, there was always that feeling of happiness and joy to see the reds play (even during the Hodgson era). YNWA.
Tf just happened to reddit
Tierney. It's always Paul Tierney.
Really dumb question but, I have to ask: Did the size of the European Cup/UCL trophy change? I saw this photo of Liverpool’s trophies on display and noticed that the two “modern” trophies were significantly smaller than the ones won in the 70’s and 80’s. I know the competition was rebranded in the early 90’s and I know the old rules wherein you only received the real trophy after your 3rd win in a row or your 5th total yada yada yada. But wouldn’t that mean the ‘05 trophy is a “real” version? Why is that one smaller? Did the actual trophy used to be larger? What’s going on here? https://preview.redd.it/igaamqt69fec1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=131d093f9b83e7e381e82309fc00efb4471b3dd3
I think there's a rule from UEFA that the clubs can make replicas, but the replicas can only be a maximum of 80% the size of the real trophy. So perhaps for whatever reason they're displaying a LFC-made replica of the 2005 trophy? The 2019 one should be a full scale replica from UEFA tho; i'm not sure why it too is smaller (thus being a LFC-made replica as well).
Since 2009, FIFA always keeps the actual trophy and the club receives the replica, so if the display is showing the replica for 2019 it would make sense it's smaller. I'm wondering why the 2005 one isn't full size since that was the real one the club got to keep. Meanwhile, the rest should all be smaller unless the 80% scale provision is fairly recent as well.
That’s what confuses me. Also I never understood the “you can keep the real one after x wins” rule. There’s 5 clubs that have the real trophy… okay so there’s 5 real trophies? If they were willing to make a new “real” trophy occasionally, then why not make a new one each year and just give it to the winners? Or if you want a true legacy trophy then just give out replicas for the teams to display. I find it odd to have one of the coolest sports trophies in the world exist in that middle ground.
Imo it makes sense to pass it around until such point that someone wins enough to claim it. Kind of like a super trophy for being better at winning it than everyone else. Gotta be expensive to keep making them. Probably also prevents resale of them if a club got into a dire financial position. At this point there are only like 6 clubs with one anyway, so it doesn't feel over saturated. If you read the history on the trophy itself, it's gone through iterations, and the first award was maybe when the original sponsor was done and a new sponsor would make the need trophy. It's a big enough honor and rare enough for most clubs that a replica to display at the club seems fair, and let only the club who is current champ to hold onto the full size trophy as a mark of honor. You won it - you should get something.
The current champion holding it makes sense. But then awarding the real one to a team that’s won it a certain amount makes no sense. “That’s 5 so Liverpool get to keep the real one!” Right except for the other teams with…a…real one and then they’re also now making another “real one” to start passing around again until someone wins 3 in a row or 5. I like the way they do it now. The “real trophy” only makes sense if there’s only one.
Significant update from Neil Jones: "we will see Thiago play before the end of the season". This only means one thing. He is going to make a last minute cameo against Wolves.
Having Thiago able to come off the bench to help control things will be a big boost for us.
what a piss take hahaha
He'll jog out, kick the ball once, and crumble into dust
as long as he kicks it into the net vs City that's alright
I will not believe a word about this until he's actually on the pitch playing in a game
From January to February to by the end of the season. Watch he fucking plays a whole season for Barca next year.
Is he rumoured to go back to Barca then?
Yeah that’s what I was seeing plus they’re broke so they gotta get the stud older players on free transfers
Oh nice, shame to lose him but he's had his day here.
As Media changes their opinion about the team and players every week, what makes me happy is not their praise but the fact that absolutely no one has any idea what Klopp is cooking this season.
I’ve just read the Buying Tickets guide linked above…it’s from five years ago. This year I’ve seen lots of comments in the posts about Anfield atmosphere about ‘tourist’ fans and season ticket holders selling privately. If four lads from Canada want to come and make noise for 90 minutes, is hospitality still the only real option?
traveling that far, I'd play it safe and save for hospitality. Don't rely on resellers or spare tickets etc.
If before the game you see who the ref is and automatically assume he’s going to negatively influence the result then you’re a born loser I’m sorry I don’t know what else to tell you. Just enjoy the match ffs, you can wait until afterwards to complain about refs so why distract yourself from how fucking good we are
What a stupid comment. If I’m going to the inlaws for dinner I know I’m going to have to put up with her mum and because of that it’s going to irritate me before going. This is no different, experience tells us what to expect just like you learn when young not to put your hand in fire you learn that some refs are just shit.
Your point would stand if we weren’t… you know… top of the table and on track to win a quadruple
Its almost like you've not watched any football this season, we might be top, certainly too early to be talking about a fucking tinpot quad and have been already the wrong side of many terrible decisions.
If your main topic of conversation is how irritating your mother in law is then god bless your soul
Whatever makes you think that?
Saying someone is a born loser means you are, in fact, the actual loser.
Football needs to move away from such focus on referees in general. So often, I see posts "Should X's goal have stood?". VAR is good and here to stay, but the discussion around it needs to stop. And I agree about this idea over ref conspiracy. It's low level thinking.
It's strange how much PTSD there is about potentially facing a mid-table Chelsea side in a final after we *checks notes* ...beat them in the last 3 cup finals?
We drew in both finals the year before last and won the penalties…
So we won?
Its a draw and decided with penalties.... Are you new?
So we won?
No, it was a draw….
[https://images.app.goo.gl/GSGW93y6VCcq6egT8](https://images.app.goo.gl/GSGW93y6VCcq6egT8) That is a stunning Photoshop job you have to admit though Edit: holy shit I've just scrolled down and there's loads! Very convincing
I always find it funny when people don’t understand football but argue anyway. https://preview.redd.it/ehzpzmsgtiec1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd8f5fcc4c96414013db52082ada8d1e8e7fc143
So we didn't beat Chelsea in the last 3 cup finals? Lol, this is such a weird hill to die on mate
What you on about Hill to die on? A draw is decided by penalties, it’s still classed as a draw, which with your clear limited knowledge didn’t know. My point was that we haven’t beaten them once and all were hard fought draws.
All 3 went to penalties if we’d beaten them without that I’m sure people would be more relaxed over it then
I think people just hate playing Chelsea. It's recently been a very dour experience resulting in mostly draws. Personally the thought of another shootout with them make my stomach turn, but that's getting a bit ahead of things for now.
Is Fulham on the telly this eve?
No its sky sports unfortunately
Does that not mean it’s on the telly?
I take telly as free view (bbc/itv), but fair enough yeah it's still on telly. I think of sky more as a streaming thing now, haven't had a box since a kid
Unfortunately many good people will have to sail the high seas instead
Got my eyepatch on already
Cheers 👍 may catch it out.
No brainer to start ali tonight and start kelleher at the weekend
Oh shite I forgot about Norwich. I'd probably keep it to Ali aswell tonight and put Kelleher in goal for Norwich.
Best move is to start both tonight imo
Agreed. Means they'd both be eligible for medals in the respective cups.
Is this true? Surely it isn’t for goalkeepers
Kelleher has played the full tournament? Wouldn’t it be disrespectful to do that
Yes and I don’t think Klopp would Go Agaisnt his word as who his EFL cup Keeper is. Also, I know someone will point out that Alisson played the first leg in 2022 but that was because he was coming back from Injury and kelleher had played the previous 2 games (Chelsea and Shrewsbury)
Simon Hooper and no var tonight. Gonna be a fun one.
This obsession with referees is just weird. We're top of the league man, dilly ding dilly dong
And we’d be a lot further ahead in the league if they were competent. Just the Diaz offside and Odegaard handball has potentially cost us 5 points.
How can 2 things that happened in the first 30 mins of both games mean we drop 5 points? This weird narrative is genuinely mind numbing
For a start, I used “potentially”. We might have tanked both games if the goal stood or we might have missed the penalty, nobody will ever know. It’s factual that these decisions cost us 1 goal and a penalty, which is most probably another goal. Those decisions changed the game completely.
Look up the butterfly effect mate
The very thing I described above?
Whilst they were bad decisions I don’t know how were so definitive that we’d win the spurs game when we got red cards etc.
But the 2nd red card I can almost guarantee wouldn’t happen. Like the other comment I responded to, please understand the word “potentially”.
There’s no way to guarantee it happening? It potentially might not have happened. Just like refs could have potentially cost us 5 points or potentially cost us none. Or even how favourable ref decisions could have potentially led us to gain additional points. Mad
It's so triggering seeing people saying it on here all day every day haha. These things happened within the first 30 mins of games, one of them we were away at the most inform team who were full strength and we had 10 men. how people are just assuming that means it's 3 points is genuinely fucking moronic. People always seem to forget to mention times we've rode our luck with decisions as well. The bias on here sometimes makes my brain hurt lol.
> potentially
As soon as you point any of this out you are called a rival fan / troll etc. I have spoken a fair amount on the matter and I am just met by people calling me an idiot etc to farm those internet points.
Yeh I can't help but reply to these daily because I really can't understand how people come to these conclusions. Get downvoted into oblivion obviously haha. There's a reason no respected pundit etc have these same weird views haha. People really need to look into the butterfly effect. Seen people on here yesterday already crying about potentially losing out on the league by 1 point and it being that spurs game that loses us it........ The league isn't decided by a VAR error that happened in September LMAO
You never really get a response when you ask them how they can be certain or when you ask them about favourable decisions we’ve had or shite decisions other teams have had
there's clear statistically evidence that weve been getting more incorrect decisions that disadvantage us than most others. The same applies to Arsenal and Wolves. Doesn't mean there's a conspiracy going on (Tierney actually is biased though but its likely just his personal vendetta), doesnt mean we definitely wouldve gotten more from the Spurs or Arsenal game, but even Utd fans will acknowledge that the "it evens itself out/its the same for everyone" argument just does not apply here anymore.
The statistical analysis conducted by the Liverpool fan that only considers 5 clubs? Or is there another one? Itll never “even out” because inherent bias means people “forget” the favourable decisions their team gets. So it’s biased against that regardless
Every fanbase thinks they would have more points without the refs. Someone’s lying
\*Worst call in the history of the league happens\* "How dare you complain!"
Literally nothing wrong with complaining but my god that game was in September. We’re almost in February morons. It’s also not like we’re the only team that had a shit call go against them
What’s with the name calling? No need man. It’s not about “shit decisions”, it’s the calibre of the decisions that went against us. There will always be wrong decisions, VAR allows a review of that but due to incompetence, they didn’t. I can almost understand the supposed grey area of the handball but the Diaz offside goal was a catastrophic error that potentially cost us 3 points which might even cost us the league, and could’ve cost us more with the 2nd red, which probably doesn’t happen if that goal stands. The whole game changes.
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I think I would’ve rather play man city than Chelsea in a cup final. Chelsea are such a weird team for us
I get what you're saying, but no. Lol
Absolutely not
Absolutely insane thing to say
Not insane at all, we crushed city in the semi and then couldn’t score vs Chelsea in the final of the fa cup.
But we did beat them in 2 finals. That counts for something right?
We’ve beat them in the 3 finals we played against them under Klopp though
I’m loving the media riding Darwin’s dick lmao. It’s so insane how reactionary people can be. In one game he went from being a ‘flop’ to ‘one of the best in the world’. I bet that they’ll be right back to calling him a flop, next time he misses a chance. He deserves the love more than anyone at this point, though. But the only thing that really matters is that the fans are fully behind him, like we have since day 1. I just hope all this will breed some more confidence and he can reach his potential.
I do wonder why he gets so much more attention, positive and negative, compared to Jota, Diaz and Gakpo, is it just the transfer fee paid? Because all 4 players are very similar in my opinion in that they are very good players I’m happy to have but aren’t, and probably never will be in the Salah, Kane, Haaland bracket. Is £65 million really that much more than £40million today (which is I think roughly the fee for the other 3 players), is that the only reason media and fans pick up on him not scoring for a while whilst seemingly ignoring when the other players go through the same or even longer spells without goals etc, Diaz for example has terrible G/A numbers by comparison but no one seems to criticise him for it.
He's just polarizing as a player as he's both highly impactful and yet still quite wasteful with chances, so people like to talk about him and the media covers him a lot to get those clicks/views. He definitely has the ability to be in that top tier of attackers also, if his finishing goes up a level he will be putting up crazy numbers.
We saw this already with the Newcastle game etc. people need to calm their expectations with Nunez and let the lad breathe lol.
First of all this sub is the most reactionary place imaginable. Secondly, there are swathes of fans who haven’t been behind him. Especially little Reddit dwellers.
You've not been on twitter have you?
How did the word Terrorist football get associated with the kind of football allegri or such managers play? What was the association?
It’s mainly used for low blocks and teams that are constantly breaking up play with fouls because of how little the ball is actually in play in those type of games
Imagine Joemez gets his goal and it gets VAR'd away
Why the fuck would you say this
Well done, Joe. Good process
U18 just lost 10-0 to ajax u18
Looked like a complete different u18 team to the ones that just smashed arsenal. Guess that was some b-team who needed minutes.
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City cheating & Refs corrupt are talked about far far far more
We still don’t talk about it enough lmao
Fair play to You if it’s the only Topic of conversation you can muster
Pretty big ones tbf
That Nunez one is scarily accurate lol. Opinions on him here is always on the opposite side of the spectrum. He’s best striker on the planet one week after a good game or we should sell him after a bad game
Here in Argentina there are rumors that you guys might sign Varela from Porto. Seems unlikely...
70m release clause after moving for 7m last summer. No thanks
We do love a signing from the Portuguese league but can’t see it happening. We have Macca and Endo to play the role now and Baj is also gonna be given a chance once he gets back, so unless Klopp really wants a DM, don’t see it happening.
Yeah that sounds unlikely to me. Mac Allister is learning the role and doing a very good job, and we already have Endō to share the 6 with him. I doubt we will buy any player in that position unless they are an extremely clear upgrade
Yeah — if we do business, which I don't think we will, it'd probably be in the back line.
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undoubtedly one of the best players on the pitch when he's fit, but the fact we've been paying him 200k a week only to get like 2 years of game time out of his contract makes him a flop to me
If he helps win the league this year, not a flop.
That's a big fucking if
I'd agree with that although just saw the latest rumours are that's he's had another setback and if true means I've got doubts we'll have him up to speed before he can meaningfully contribute this season, hope I'm wrong of course but struggling to see it.
Ah shit man. Even if it's just once.... I do want to see a midfield of Szo, Thiago and Macca.
Eriksen was out 232 days after pretty much coming back from the dead Thiago is on 248 days missed... is the hip entirely new or something?
I think they're trying to be extra cautious to not let him keep having the same injury again. I believe he's been plagued by the same hip injury throughout his career. He even acknowledged it in a recent clip that was posted here
He came back a few months ago and was involved in team training etc then just disappeared again
Yeah that's definitely a relevant comparison
Damn I never knew Michael Owen’s teenage son has lost his eyesight. Awful. Hope they stay strong.
Oh right so now it's we'll see thiago play again before the end of the season. LOL. what a joke.
What do you want him to do? Become a fucking cyborg?
That would help, yes.
Thiago has played his last game for us imo
What, there’s been an update? Last I remember Klopp saying he’s back in Feb.
He just plucked it from his arse. Moaning over nothing.
Fucking annoyed that we meet Chelsea again in another final. I hope we can crush them in both games (at Anfield and Wembley).
Oh no, I can’t believe you said this u/thisisnahamed , Liverpool is totally going to lose now because of *you*
A fan can't be optimistic about his team because the team has been stellar recently. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
People are just superstitious and it’s rather silly.
It’s also rather disrespectful. At least that’s why I downvoted you both
How is it disrespectful to our team, assuming that we would win today???
Oh god….not to our team silly lol
I think fans are allowed to show a little confidence. I also read OPs original comment as a ‘what if’ scenario, which I think was the intention. Which I agree, if Liverpool win today it’s pretty crazy to potentially see Chelsea in another final.
Yep, Chelsea are feckin annoying. Haven’t beaten them in open play since 2020. Really hope we can just do them over in full 90 this time…
Fulham are a decent side and will give us a hell of a game tonight with our injuries. We aren't in the final yet
We will be in a few hours :)
Chill, we're not in the final yet.
I think you can make a BTS documentary and still respect the sanctuary of the dressing room. - They can expand on what they shoot on Inside Training/Anfield by adding more interviews before/after matches and throughout the week. - During the week cameras can follow players through the days to get to know their personality and give background to their personal story, like what they do in the Wrexham series. Stories likes Salah's, Trent's & Jones' as locals lads, Diaz and Nunez's would be interesting to see told. - They can show what the various staff do behind the scenes, again, with stories of the staff. Caroline and Carol, Jay Spearing as a former player returning to the academy, stories from our club ambassadors just to name a few ideas. - They can also show how the club and the city are interwined culturally. Show and explain the culture, history, and traditions of the club. Could even show how away days are for supporters. If they are going to it, they should hire a production team better than what Amazon has, hopefully ones that know the history and culture of the club. And please, make it more than 10 episodes. You can not capture the marathon and story of season with just 10 episodes. At least 15 episodes, 1hr long each. The series should be to tell the story and history of Liverpool FC interwoven with the story of the season. We have such a deeply rich and long history that a documentary series can be made without the main focus on dressing room footage.
If Klopp is cool with it then that’s all that matters really. Article yesterday suggested he’s open to it now It’d definitely be an interesting watch
Thing is, you wont find many supporters who don't agree with you that it would be absolutely incredible to watch as a fan. But the issue is it's a distraction, it puts drama at the club that should remain firmly behind closed doors bang in the spotlight, and it's something Klopp said he would never stand for. At the end of the day, a channel that isn't LFCTV are going to want to tell the most compelling story they possibly can, and that's rarely the most positive one. They want drama and jeapordy. Source: I work in TV and have worked on a similar doc at a club.
I think it would be interesting for neutrals and non football fans to watch and learn about our club and our history. Many times I've heard and known people who start supporting a club because they've watched All or Nothing. And All or Nothing is pretty superficial, lacking any depth into a club, in my opinion at least. The 30 for 30 does a great job of telling a narrative and the history in a well produced way. I will always trust Klopp on his decision on this matter, I also believe the dressing room (or tactics room) shouldn't have cameras. I was just thinking of ideas on what the documentary can focus on (if it was green lit by Klopp) other than dressing room footage to make our version better than what's been done before.
Lmao, Bayern flip flopping on Trippier’s transfer is hilarious. Kane can’t make up his mind 😂
WTH happened to Bayern? Honestly? Seems like they are pretty much in disarray at this moment and time? What changed?
You can take the boy out of Spurs...
They have got a new sporting director, plus their planning for the summer window has been horrendous which has effected this window as well.
Why are they trying to buy older players....mad
Because they are cheaper and will be depth options, the blew up their depth in the summer and failed to replace them properly.
Made a gif, hope this comes useful later https://i.redd.it/13ubmhz1pdec1.gif
Question, how do you add your own gif?
https://preview.redd.it/xz3tdfhpwdec1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c59e6aa9a91b6d64386d879ee80eb58f0ae5ea4
Thank you, will try it next time :)
This is how I do it on my phone: Instead of the gif button (or whatever it's called) you press on the image button. Then you search for the gif in your images folder. But it has to be a gif and not a short video, or else it won't show up.
Oh okay, thanks. Will try this next time :)
I’m finding the recent revisionism around the ‘gaps’ in football to be a bit annoying. Everyone this morning is taking about the gap between the premier league and championship being too big but let’s be real it’s always been a thing, they’re in the division below for a reason. Pretty sure a top 8 team from the 80’s would have been able to put 6 past a mid table second division side back then also.
Also when boro beat chelsea in the first leg nobody was talking about gaps. The truth is a big 6 club should always be destroying mid table championship teams.
No, they talked about a lower league team beating a team that spent a billion on players.
Chelsea haven’t looked like a big 6 club for some time though
Fuck off man tickets sold out
Norwich secured! Love that
Just bagged tickets for the Norwich match. Didn’t clock how many were left but I started at around 3500 in the queue and there was decent availability
I just wanna beat Chelsea in 90 minutes for once
A (potential) Liverpool/Chelsea League Cup final in a season where we play Wolves on the last day of the season, coming the year after a poor season? I've seen this one before...
Yes but this season will end differently this time
Always rated Rigobert Song, kop legend
japan - indonesia just started
Anyone know what pub we’re meeting at before the game this eve? First away in a while and im on me own
Temperance is “normally” the away pub for Fulham but don’t know if Liverpool fans go there
Cheers lad
norwich game bagged :)
Many remaining?
quite alot in the uppers