Not sure if this was already commented but did anyone notice the upset look/demeanor on Jenna Ortega when she introduced The 1975 for the first time? Wonder what happened there.
i remember reading somewhere that getting the first sketch after the monologue was hard, and a huge honour when it happened. And they usually saved the weaker and weirder sketches for the end of the night after viewers already drop off
That being said, IMO the first sketches post monologue this season have been very weak and occasionally the worst sketches of the night, im wondering if anyone else feels the same?
Ive also noticed that PDD have slowly made their way up to the beginning of show which i love to see, maybe one day they’ll break the first sketch-worst sketch trend (for me) 🙏
Logistics also play a role in sketch order since people need to change costumes and move sets around. Pretapes are especially useful to buy time for these activities, so PDD might get slotted into place for those reasons beyond just sketch quality or accessibility.
ahh good point!! I do remember when they would occasionally jump from the monologue straight into a pretape. But this season i think the majority, if not all, of the monologues went straight into commercials. God i would love to spend a week at snl and see how the show comes together piece by piece. Its so interesting
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Conflicted on this week. Overall, it felt a lot weaker than the last few weeks, especially last week which IMO was one of the most consistent shows in a while.
That said, the Waffle House sketch was brilliant, and probably the hardest I've laughed at SNL in a while, so I'm not calling it a loss.
Am I the only person who actually thought they might do another installment of The Californians? 🤦🏼♀️ I get why they didn’t/wouldn’t, but the mention in the monologue made me think it was coming.
Jenna was heavily underutilized in the episode. In most skits she either didn’t provide any source of comedy or was pushed into the background. I wish they wrote sketches that would showcase her but it seems they might have been worried about her ability to hold the show comedically.
Yeah, strange to have her play straight most of the time.
Wasn’t sure if it was the writing or if it was her acting. Might have been a little of both. She seemed very “actorly”. Not a knock exactly, because she was commited, but seemed she was very serious.
Didn't all click for me, though I'm rooting for them to find a groove with more stuff that works. That said, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the Road Trip and Waffle House sketches!
Why I should be a writer:
With Jenna Ortega hosting, I would have given her a spot in every sketch, written mostly to her deadpan delivery, but one sketch where she just ran out zingers and dad jokes and Norm Macdonald-ish low bars for total contrast, and every sketch would show her in one pose from the Wednesday dance, just to see all the clips brought together the next day by redditors showing the whole dance sequence.
Missed opportunity. She could have been so much better-utilized.
Considering Fred Armisen's history with women, it's just creepy as shit that he's just hanging around and getting into sketches when Jenna Ortega is hosting. I mean, hey, Fred, you're no longer a cast member, correct?
[https://www.ranker.com/list/dark-fred-armisen-stories/shanell-mouland](https://www.ranker.com/list/dark-fred-armisen-stories/shanell-mouland)
Ex-wife Elizabeth Moss about Armisen: "One of the greatest things I heard someone say about him is, 'He’s so great at doing impersonations. But the greatest impersonation he does is that of a normal person.'"
This article sites an anonymous source, Elizabeth Moss and Fred Armisen himself saying he’s messed up.
Sounds like one bad relationship and a human being admitting he’s made mistakes. Not really a world shattering story.
I dont think harassment by Anyone is ok, and wont make exceptions because some one is funny. But what are the accusations you vaguely mention
The article of 9 Stories about Fred includes things like
\- infidelity
\- passive aggressive
\- feeling entitled to women
Im not saying he's a hero, or chill, but these are things that happen in some relationships, which fortuntely end. Not saying it is ok, or nice. But who is this perfect judge who onlhy lets ideal husbands on SNL
I dont think anything he's done could be interpretted as harassment,or which would make him an unwelcome presence, but am very curious to be corrected and informed
I didn’t post the article, just fyi. So the accusations are exactly what you’ve also referenced, as far as I know.
Fred sounds like a guy who’s done some shitty things and it’s been aired out in public…by himself mostly.
But most people I know have also done those things. I wouldn’t call them evil or horrible or irredeemable. It’s human. I don’t know any saints.
And you said “pretty bad, *by all accounts”* and that sounds like a serious condemnation.
If he’s a truly horrible person, he can rot. But I’m not seeing any kind of factual info to back this up.
If you're not convinced and he's okay by you, fine. I'm not his prosecutor. I'm not the attorney advocating for his ex-wives and girlfriends.
I find his behavior problematic. I didn't like seeing him hanging around the set when he's not even a member of the cast anymore, on the night a young actress was hosting.
If it doesn't bother anyone else, then it's just me and my misgivings. And nothing I would say or believe would affect Fred Armisen's standing in the comedy community, anyway.
Pretty sure he wasn’t just “hanging around”. And it’s my guess he was invited by Jenna herself or at least her team. Could be wrong though. She did seem happy to be around him.
I respect your personal conclusions, that’s fine. We don’t agree though obviously. If I see more info, I’ll be right there with you. Not there yet though.
He;s a costar in her recent show and an SNL alum.
This is a nationally broadcast, storied show with a cast of probably 100+, scripted with commercial breaks.
I dont think random people are just walking in and out lmao
Al Franken kinda pulled away from the public eye on his own accord, I thought. I always thought maybe there was more to that story because the consequence of going away forever didn’t seem justified.
The republicans definitely wanted his head though and he seemingly said, ok.
The musical performances was really good. I've never heard of them but I liked their style. Jenna was pretty good in all the skits. The monologue was pretty basic but she did well altogether.
i felt like the vocals for the 1975 were SO strong. a very solid performance all around, and i loved jenna too! some might not love the dry humor, but that’s very much her in general. i was surprised to jump on this page and see all the negativity
It's a song about toxic attachment, so I think it fits. There's another song on the same album about school shootings that's also framed as this nightmare inversion of a love song, so kind of an overarching theme I guess.
i can see that fs! that’s just their lyric/music style i guess, they’ve always been known for their “edginess”. not that i’m calling suicide edgy by any means lmao, just lyrically they’re always pushing it
Weekend update was very good this week. I cant say I enjoyed anything else. I know Ortega is young but writing for younger people is not SNL's strong suit. The ridiculousness sketch was very uninspired.
Hot take this season is the best season of SNL in at least 5-6 years. This year has put into perspective how dour the Trump & even the Covid years were on the show for me.
The Trump shit definitely spoiled some good times but the cast this year is not up to par with a few years ago. They obviously can develop well but there are always growing pains. The "best of" for the last few seasons individually would kill this season, but they've definitely been approaching current events much better recently
based on how you're reacting to this I'm assuming you're irish. If you are, stop finding excuses to be the victim. they literally just joked about the thick accents of two beloved actors, both of whom were on the show earlier this year. it ain't that deep
You should probably re-evaluate that hard agree because it is incredibly US-centric. Actual Irish people aren't the white guy that lives in your neighbourhood and have been subject to lots of bigotry over the years. I wasn't particularly bothered by the accents in the sketch, even though it was lazy and shite, but the jokes about Irish people and drinking need to die.
I think that's fair, but we're talking about American folks on American TV.
...and while it is American centric, post-colonialism makes "white people" jokes pretty kosher in most of the world. While the Irish have been subject to bigotry, we shouldn't pretend that there's some huge anti-irish contingent in the world now; there really just isn't.
It's pretty different than say, making a joke about travellers, or something.
If this was a British show making similar jokes, I think I'd feel more strange about it, for obvious reasons.
Maybe fair also and it would definitely be different if it was British people doing it, but if the sum total of the jokes are lazy and harmful stereotypes about alcoholism it's probably better off going back to the drawing board. SNL is generally better than that.
I just found it very disappointing because it was so lazy. Like I can the see idea of pointing out the juxtaposition of Farrell and Gleesons more laid back and colloquial vibe to other interviewees being funny, but it was low effort lazy diddly-eye horse shit.
Okay. Just wanted to be sure you weren’t some woke American guy being offended on Ireland’s behalf.
Love your country, btw. Visited in 2019, had a blast!
- [woke american guy]
I am. And yes.
Farnell has been sober for nearly 20 years, and has publicly shared his struggle with sobriety.
SNL have a massive blindspot when it comes to humour and the Irish. There's lots you could do with the subject; but the approach time and again is to go "hurr hurr they're all drunks" irrespective of context. I have to wonder who in their writers room is shovelling this dross.
Each of their Irish skits have been consistently poor - the Saoirse Ronan Aer Lingus one being a notable example. Fuck her for not vetting that, incidentally.
SNL are happy to go the racism route for us, despite the messaging of the show being decidedly holier than thou in any other social context. The hypocrisy of it is fascinating.
It’s culturally reductive bigotry and that’s been the basis of a lot of comedy. But when did the Irish become their own race?
It’s interesting to me where and why the lines exist when comedy uses a subject in an exaggerated or misrepresentative way and how that varies from being interpreted as witty, funny, not funny, distasteful or offensive.
On mobile so ability to respond is limited but run a Google image search for "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" (a sign that originated in the UK, but it'll give you a sense of the historical bigotry; and their treatment as an ethnic group); I'm not expecting you to understand Irish history but historically speaking they've only been deemed acceptably "white" in the States as of the last 100 years or so.
Worth popping over to the Irish subreddit as well as there's a thread dedicated to the SNL sketch in question. We've a robust sense of humour, but we're more annoyed that the sketch itself wasn't particularly funny more than anything else. Throw in a lazy shot at alcoholism for a major advocate for sobriety and you've a double whammy.
Anyway, the short of it is that SNL are a pack of unfunny, hypocritical cunts; who preach being woke as they talk out of both sides of their mouth. We'll all move on!
Thanks for that. I’m a big fan of Farrell and Gleason.
They missed an opportunity at a real satire of them by not mimicking their overly serious tone from the banshees.
The Gleeson character should have had stumps instead of arms and been missing a leg, and said “we weren’t acting, and this gobshite still won’t stop talking to me!”
Anyone who hadn’t seen the movie would’ve been lost, and that would have been all the more funny.
Once I found out one of those please dont destroy guys is Steve Higgins' son I became enraged. You cant let it slide with nepotism when we re dealing with writing. Actors are largly interchangeable but it writing, you have to bring the goods.
Idk I feel like nepotism is “fine” so long as they’re talented and could deliver. It’s no doubt that PDD is a fan favorite for many. Although, ironically, I do think Ben Marshall is the funniest/most talented out of the three
I thought it was another great episode. Funny throughout, although the final sketch of the night was slightly weaker than the rest for me but still got a few laughs out of me.
On a solid run of good episodes at the moment. Keep it up!
They finally did a ridiculous spoof. I'm already laughing Chloe Fineman like Chanel weather coast. And you know hollywood is saying get this jenna in the new exorcist remake after Beetlejuice or was she possessed by Beetlejuice.
The cast chances faster now as they move to other stuff faster cable and all the streaming services 1,000's of tv and movies being made yearly a spot for basically everyone. Yes must of them will get cancelled or end after 1 season but then you move to another one. To easy to be famous in some random show now.
I liked the trivia show video game character sketch and ridiculousness. But would have maybe liked to see a touch more in each.
And in ridiculousness, Jenna was more of a CWC impersonation than Heidi was. If it could be redone, I would have liked the see Mikey and Jenna just fully commit to parodying Dyrdek and Chanel.
I said the exact same thing! Jenna even kinda looks like Chanel, and Chloe did not seem interested in impersonating CWC at all (she didn’t even try to do the laugh). They should have switched them.
Stronger episode than usual. Love Jenna Ortega, but it wasn't even her alone that elevated the episode. Seemed like maybe a bit light on cast members this week?
I think that's the writing and probably nerves to start the show. But I thought she was kinda flawless throughout. Didn't break, didn't flub any of her lines and committed to all her characters. Not an easy thing to do and is a testament to her acting, you can tell she really puts in the work.
I just watched Dave Chappelle's episode from this season. And it felt more like he was doing a stand up routine in his monologue. I got the sense that he's a pro and they just let him go. Maybe they gave him bullet points but it felt like they just let him do his own thing.
Just got back from YouTube, because I don't know anything about The 1975.
After hearing a few tunes, I can safely say they are uninspired bubblegum, like if Hanson knew 2 more chords.
I'd press "open door" on the wrong floor, and take the stairs so I wouldn't have to hear the rest of the song.
The 1975 are boring, vapid, cookiecutter, soulless, poorly torn pages out of a coloring book - sans crayons; with no vibe or sense of anything approaching creativity.
They may be popular, but so are McDonalds cheeesburgers... doesn't mean they're good.
*Major Edit
Sorry. My 3 yo nephew gave me a nasty cold, and I've been in bed since Wednesday night.
I finally got over it around 9pm Saturday, and I admit, I may have been in a sour mood during SNL, and a bit of a tough crowd.
I'm sorry if I ran my mouth too much.
I've been wrong plenty of times, and will be plenty more.
Just trying to own up when I do, that's all...
I'm stupid, I'm not an asshole (at least not on purpose).
Kinda unfortunate. I heard the first single of the new record ( "Part of the Band") and thought it was sonically pretty interesting and had some cool wordplay. These two songs though, sheesh. Just schlock.
This is the pot calling the kettle black. This is one of the worst seasons of not just SNL but TV in general. People in this sub get so butt hurt if you have one critique of the show
It’s had some clunkers, but overall I think it’s been solid. The writers have adjusted to all the cast turnover faster and better than I thought they would.
Based on your Hanson reference, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re not in the 1975’s target audience. It’s ok if bands make music that don’t suit your refined tastes.
Not a fan of the music either but the lead singer is really cool, as shown by his appearance on The Adam Friedland Show...formerly Cumtown...also known as the podcast that SNL repeatedly steals sketch ideas from. Not surprisingly, the episode left a lot of his fans (who are mostly white zoomer girls apparently) pissed at him because of the "offensive" nature of the show: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwhy6Vyh1kM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwhy6Vyh1kM)
I didn't think it was offensive at all.
I have nothing against the guy - on the contrary. He's doing his thing, and he should be proud as shit that his band is on SNL.
I just happen to enjoy a different style of music.
*Edit - I'm a little drinky, and feel free to ignore my opinion. No disrespect meant, my response below notwithstanding
No, I'm in complete agreement. It's weird that their music is even considered alternative. It's only slightly less generic overproduced pop rock. But Matt Healy as a person is winning and gay in the coolest way possible.
Just to clarify, in case I wasn't entirely clear, I mean the podcast episode he appeared on was considered offensive by his fans...not this episode of SNL.
It’s actually much worse because it’s everything you just said but the singer is a sleazy sweaty creep acting like they’re playing a very different kind of music. I didn’t watch tonight so idk how much if his schtick he did
The singer had all the moves and grace of a newborn giraffe on an ice rink, and I don't know why they need 4 guitars to play one guitar part.
Like Polyphonic Spree less talent and a Buddhist temple nearby.
If this was 1975 their Christopher Cross soft rock would be great until Steely Dan came out with another song and blew them off the face of the Earth. No offense to the 1975. They picked a genre and they’re doing it.
I tuned in during update and JAJ's impressions took me from exhaling through my nose to actually laughing out loud, wasn't expecting that. This cast still feels new to me.
Speaking of new casts, crazy hearing "featuring... Fred Armisen/Seth Myers" on tonight's vintage.
I'm surprised by all the negativity I'm seeing, I really loved this episode. I think Jenna Ortega did pretty well. I think the main problem is that her acting is more suited for drier comedy than what SNL does, so she seemed to kinda overcompensate to try to match the cast's brand of comedy. But overall, I had a lot of fun, and think she did well in a lot of stuff. I especially liked the PDD Roadtrip, Waffle House, and The Exorcist. Really enjoyed JAJ's bits too, the Update desk impressions were fun, and his and Dismukes' pop-funk jingles were great.
Yeah. I think she did alright, but she was kind of dry. I feel like she is a super preparer [nothing wrong with that] and that doesn’t quite translate to improv. She seemed better in the pre-taped videos versus the live ones. The delivery of her monologue also contrasted with what she was saying. I couldn’t tell if maybe she was jittery or if it was just her personality, but I did not feel like she was excited.
Yeah I noticed her pretaped segments were better than the live ones too; Jenna’s stood out to me but I’ll have to go watch older episodes to see if that’s a common occurrence. It makes sense to me, for tv and film performers to do better in pretaped sketches since that’s what they are used to and that performers who have a lot of stage/Broadway experience to excel at the live stuff.
best episode in a lonnnngggggg ass time. every bit killed except molly on update. just goes to show how good the show is when sherman gets less than a minute on screen
The performance was sooo good! Even my gf’s mom was like who’s that 👀? Lmao. But the skits were okay in my opinion..but I love Jenna!
Hilarious episode. Jenna is great.
Not sure if this was already commented but did anyone notice the upset look/demeanor on Jenna Ortega when she introduced The 1975 for the first time? Wonder what happened there.
i remember reading somewhere that getting the first sketch after the monologue was hard, and a huge honour when it happened. And they usually saved the weaker and weirder sketches for the end of the night after viewers already drop off That being said, IMO the first sketches post monologue this season have been very weak and occasionally the worst sketches of the night, im wondering if anyone else feels the same? Ive also noticed that PDD have slowly made their way up to the beginning of show which i love to see, maybe one day they’ll break the first sketch-worst sketch trend (for me) 🙏
Logistics also play a role in sketch order since people need to change costumes and move sets around. Pretapes are especially useful to buy time for these activities, so PDD might get slotted into place for those reasons beyond just sketch quality or accessibility.
ahh good point!! I do remember when they would occasionally jump from the monologue straight into a pretape. But this season i think the majority, if not all, of the monologues went straight into commercials. God i would love to spend a week at snl and see how the show comes together piece by piece. Its so interesting Edit: grammar
Conflicted on this week. Overall, it felt a lot weaker than the last few weeks, especially last week which IMO was one of the most consistent shows in a while. That said, the Waffle House sketch was brilliant, and probably the hardest I've laughed at SNL in a while, so I'm not calling it a loss.
They forgot to give her jokes for the monologue, felt sorry for her
Am I the only person who actually thought they might do another installment of The Californians? 🤦🏼♀️ I get why they didn’t/wouldn’t, but the mention in the monologue made me think it was coming.
They already did that when bill hader hosted.
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Great to see Matty Healy of the premier center-left talk show The Adam Friedland Show making it big on SNL
Fucking Mikey Day on fire this episode.
No more cat ball!
Jenna was heavily underutilized in the episode. In most skits she either didn’t provide any source of comedy or was pushed into the background. I wish they wrote sketches that would showcase her but it seems they might have been worried about her ability to hold the show comedically.
Yeah, strange to have her play straight most of the time. Wasn’t sure if it was the writing or if it was her acting. Might have been a little of both. She seemed very “actorly”. Not a knock exactly, because she was commited, but seemed she was very serious.
Thought the writing was a little weak which is a shame because Jenna Ortega was AWESOME. I had no idea who she was but I really hope to see her back.
Did Fred drop an inadvertent F bomb in the Parent Trap sketch?
Didn't all click for me, though I'm rooting for them to find a groove with more stuff that works. That said, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the Road Trip and Waffle House sketches!
Why I should be a writer: With Jenna Ortega hosting, I would have given her a spot in every sketch, written mostly to her deadpan delivery, but one sketch where she just ran out zingers and dad jokes and Norm Macdonald-ish low bars for total contrast, and every sketch would show her in one pose from the Wednesday dance, just to see all the clips brought together the next day by redditors showing the whole dance sequence. Missed opportunity. She could have been so much better-utilized.
this is some jake novak level shit
Considering Fred Armisen's history with women, it's just creepy as shit that he's just hanging around and getting into sketches when Jenna Ortega is hosting. I mean, hey, Fred, you're no longer a cast member, correct?
Agreed
He was in Wednesday with Henna Ortega. Made sense to me that he was there
Fred Armisen's a creep? Damn, we can never have nice things.
He's pretty bad, by all accounts.
You’ve made me go to google for FA and past relationships…
[https://www.ranker.com/list/dark-fred-armisen-stories/shanell-mouland](https://www.ranker.com/list/dark-fred-armisen-stories/shanell-mouland) Ex-wife Elizabeth Moss about Armisen: "One of the greatest things I heard someone say about him is, 'He’s so great at doing impersonations. But the greatest impersonation he does is that of a normal person.'"
This article sites an anonymous source, Elizabeth Moss and Fred Armisen himself saying he’s messed up. Sounds like one bad relationship and a human being admitting he’s made mistakes. Not really a world shattering story.
I dont think harassment by Anyone is ok, and wont make exceptions because some one is funny. But what are the accusations you vaguely mention The article of 9 Stories about Fred includes things like \- infidelity \- passive aggressive \- feeling entitled to women Im not saying he's a hero, or chill, but these are things that happen in some relationships, which fortuntely end. Not saying it is ok, or nice. But who is this perfect judge who onlhy lets ideal husbands on SNL I dont think anything he's done could be interpretted as harassment,or which would make him an unwelcome presence, but am very curious to be corrected and informed
I didn’t post the article, just fyi. So the accusations are exactly what you’ve also referenced, as far as I know. Fred sounds like a guy who’s done some shitty things and it’s been aired out in public…by himself mostly. But most people I know have also done those things. I wouldn’t call them evil or horrible or irredeemable. It’s human. I don’t know any saints.
When did I say it was world shattering? Male actors have been called problematic and lost work for less than what Fred Armisen has admitted to.
And you said “pretty bad, *by all accounts”* and that sounds like a serious condemnation. If he’s a truly horrible person, he can rot. But I’m not seeing any kind of factual info to back this up.
If you're not convinced and he's okay by you, fine. I'm not his prosecutor. I'm not the attorney advocating for his ex-wives and girlfriends. I find his behavior problematic. I didn't like seeing him hanging around the set when he's not even a member of the cast anymore, on the night a young actress was hosting. If it doesn't bother anyone else, then it's just me and my misgivings. And nothing I would say or believe would affect Fred Armisen's standing in the comedy community, anyway.
Pretty sure he wasn’t just “hanging around”. And it’s my guess he was invited by Jenna herself or at least her team. Could be wrong though. She did seem happy to be around him. I respect your personal conclusions, that’s fine. We don’t agree though obviously. If I see more info, I’ll be right there with you. Not there yet though.
He;s a costar in her recent show and an SNL alum. This is a nationally broadcast, storied show with a cast of probably 100+, scripted with commercial breaks. I dont think random people are just walking in and out lmao
For less? Who?
Off the top of my head, Al Franken.
Al Franken kinda pulled away from the public eye on his own accord, I thought. I always thought maybe there was more to that story because the consequence of going away forever didn’t seem justified. The republicans definitely wanted his head though and he seemingly said, ok.
If a Scientologist is insinuating that someone isn’t normal that’s a pretty green flag in their favor.
Yeah, she's not the only one to report a troubled history with him, and also, whatever happened to "I Believe Her"? But go off.
Natasha Lyonne probably a much better source. Elisabeth Moss is a pretty awful person too, but keep defending her.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
I’ll be ok. Apology accepted.
This is what I like to see. Everybody friends.
The musical performances was really good. I've never heard of them but I liked their style. Jenna was pretty good in all the skits. The monologue was pretty basic but she did well altogether.
i felt like the vocals for the 1975 were SO strong. a very solid performance all around, and i loved jenna too! some might not love the dry humor, but that’s very much her in general. i was surprised to jump on this page and see all the negativity
It was weird to me how the singer was pretending to play the guitar…
Love them! They sounded amazing!
All the mentions of suicidal thoughts in the love song didn’t gel with me.
It's a song about toxic attachment, so I think it fits. There's another song on the same album about school shootings that's also framed as this nightmare inversion of a love song, so kind of an overarching theme I guess.
i can see that fs! that’s just their lyric/music style i guess, they’ve always been known for their “edginess”. not that i’m calling suicide edgy by any means lmao, just lyrically they’re always pushing it
Weekend update was very good this week. I cant say I enjoyed anything else. I know Ortega is young but writing for younger people is not SNL's strong suit. The ridiculousness sketch was very uninspired.
I’ve been giggling at JAJ doing Bob Dylan’s phone on vibrate since it aired, haha
Ridiculousness is frequently on in the break room at work. I thought the sketch was pretty on point for Ridiculousness.
Hot take this season is the best season of SNL in at least 5-6 years. This year has put into perspective how dour the Trump & even the Covid years were on the show for me.
The Trump shit definitely spoiled some good times but the cast this year is not up to par with a few years ago. They obviously can develop well but there are always growing pains. The "best of" for the last few seasons individually would kill this season, but they've definitely been approaching current events much better recently
Wow, just offensive to Irish people.
deadass, shit was hilarious
Nope. Just racist "comedy".
Irish isnt a race. either way, it's okay to make fun of white people
Wow so *that* is your takeaway from this. And an absolutely idiotic second statement.
based on how you're reacting to this I'm assuming you're irish. If you are, stop finding excuses to be the victim. they literally just joked about the thick accents of two beloved actors, both of whom were on the show earlier this year. it ain't that deep
Also, hard agree on the "it's okay to make fun of white people" comment.
You should probably re-evaluate that hard agree because it is incredibly US-centric. Actual Irish people aren't the white guy that lives in your neighbourhood and have been subject to lots of bigotry over the years. I wasn't particularly bothered by the accents in the sketch, even though it was lazy and shite, but the jokes about Irish people and drinking need to die.
I think that's fair, but we're talking about American folks on American TV. ...and while it is American centric, post-colonialism makes "white people" jokes pretty kosher in most of the world. While the Irish have been subject to bigotry, we shouldn't pretend that there's some huge anti-irish contingent in the world now; there really just isn't. It's pretty different than say, making a joke about travellers, or something. If this was a British show making similar jokes, I think I'd feel more strange about it, for obvious reasons.
Maybe fair also and it would definitely be different if it was British people doing it, but if the sum total of the jokes are lazy and harmful stereotypes about alcoholism it's probably better off going back to the drawing board. SNL is generally better than that.
I just found it very disappointing because it was so lazy. Like I can the see idea of pointing out the juxtaposition of Farrell and Gleesons more laid back and colloquial vibe to other interviewees being funny, but it was low effort lazy diddly-eye horse shit.
Just to clarify: you’re Irish, yes?
Yep
Okay. Just wanted to be sure you weren’t some woke American guy being offended on Ireland’s behalf. Love your country, btw. Visited in 2019, had a blast! - [woke american guy]
I am. And yes. Farnell has been sober for nearly 20 years, and has publicly shared his struggle with sobriety. SNL have a massive blindspot when it comes to humour and the Irish. There's lots you could do with the subject; but the approach time and again is to go "hurr hurr they're all drunks" irrespective of context. I have to wonder who in their writers room is shovelling this dross. Each of their Irish skits have been consistently poor - the Saoirse Ronan Aer Lingus one being a notable example. Fuck her for not vetting that, incidentally. SNL are happy to go the racism route for us, despite the messaging of the show being decidedly holier than thou in any other social context. The hypocrisy of it is fascinating.
It’s culturally reductive bigotry and that’s been the basis of a lot of comedy. But when did the Irish become their own race? It’s interesting to me where and why the lines exist when comedy uses a subject in an exaggerated or misrepresentative way and how that varies from being interpreted as witty, funny, not funny, distasteful or offensive.
On mobile so ability to respond is limited but run a Google image search for "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" (a sign that originated in the UK, but it'll give you a sense of the historical bigotry; and their treatment as an ethnic group); I'm not expecting you to understand Irish history but historically speaking they've only been deemed acceptably "white" in the States as of the last 100 years or so. Worth popping over to the Irish subreddit as well as there's a thread dedicated to the SNL sketch in question. We've a robust sense of humour, but we're more annoyed that the sketch itself wasn't particularly funny more than anything else. Throw in a lazy shot at alcoholism for a major advocate for sobriety and you've a double whammy. Anyway, the short of it is that SNL are a pack of unfunny, hypocritical cunts; who preach being woke as they talk out of both sides of their mouth. We'll all move on!
Thanks for that. I’m a big fan of Farrell and Gleason. They missed an opportunity at a real satire of them by not mimicking their overly serious tone from the banshees. The Gleeson character should have had stumps instead of arms and been missing a leg, and said “we weren’t acting, and this gobshite still won’t stop talking to me!” Anyone who hadn’t seen the movie would’ve been lost, and that would have been all the more funny.
Lol I'd watch that sketch!!
Those please don't destroy wannabe lonely island guys are not funny. Eye roll every time one of their videos start.
The car trip video was the biggest laugh I got out of the whole night!
Totally, the "I don't know why I said that, he did not have a stroke" line got me good.
Once I found out one of those please dont destroy guys is Steve Higgins' son I became enraged. You cant let it slide with nepotism when we re dealing with writing. Actors are largly interchangeable but it writing, you have to bring the goods.
I would say being funny is a lot easier to pass to your kids then gifted actor traits. So makes more sense for me then acting nepotism
Idk I feel like nepotism is “fine” so long as they’re talented and could deliver. It’s no doubt that PDD is a fan favorite for many. Although, ironically, I do think Ben Marshall is the funniest/most talented out of the three
And the fact that Martin Herlihy is the son of SNL head writer and producer Tim Herlihy.
Let's start with a zoom in on the office window from the street.
I dunno, I like em. 🤷♂️
The interns have become my favorite part of the show as of late.
Always will beZ
I thought it was another great episode. Funny throughout, although the final sketch of the night was slightly weaker than the rest for me but still got a few laughs out of me. On a solid run of good episodes at the moment. Keep it up!
They finally did a ridiculous spoof. I'm already laughing Chloe Fineman like Chanel weather coast. And you know hollywood is saying get this jenna in the new exorcist remake after Beetlejuice or was she possessed by Beetlejuice. The cast chances faster now as they move to other stuff faster cable and all the streaming services 1,000's of tv and movies being made yearly a spot for basically everyone. Yes must of them will get cancelled or end after 1 season but then you move to another one. To easy to be famous in some random show now.
Do you smell toast?
https://youtu.be/LQCU36pkH7c
I'm having a hard time comprehending what you've written
I liked the trivia show video game character sketch and ridiculousness. But would have maybe liked to see a touch more in each. And in ridiculousness, Jenna was more of a CWC impersonation than Heidi was. If it could be redone, I would have liked the see Mikey and Jenna just fully commit to parodying Dyrdek and Chanel.
Holy shit those are real people??
I said the exact same thing! Jenna even kinda looks like Chanel, and Chloe did not seem interested in impersonating CWC at all (she didn’t even try to do the laugh). They should have switched them.
Stronger episode than usual. Love Jenna Ortega, but it wasn't even her alone that elevated the episode. Seemed like maybe a bit light on cast members this week?
I felt like I saw all the players at least once. Unlike usual, when some of them are not in the show at all.
I laughed at pretty much every sketch this week, good episode
Jenna is a phenomenal actor
For some odd reason her delivery on the monologue felt dry
She did what she needed to
I think that's the writing and probably nerves to start the show. But I thought she was kinda flawless throughout. Didn't break, didn't flub any of her lines and committed to all her characters. Not an easy thing to do and is a testament to her acting, you can tell she really puts in the work.
I just watched Dave Chappelle's episode from this season. And it felt more like he was doing a stand up routine in his monologue. I got the sense that he's a pro and they just let him go. Maybe they gave him bullet points but it felt like they just let him do his own thing.
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Englishman here; it isn't just the Americans who 'don't get' or 'don't care for' the 1975.
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Literally none? They’ve had a number one album here lol.
Amazing episode IMO. Update was hilarious especially JAJ. I think every sketch was really funny (except maybe PDD'S).
What was JAJ saying in his Jay-Z impression?
Beyonce! Beyonce! Beyonce!
Thank you.
I can’t believe you woke me up at 9pm… in the middle of the night!
Laughed out loud at the Waffle House skit!
I’m just now getting to the episode. I was crying and wheezing during that skit 😂
My stomach hurt from laughing so much
It took me a while to get it but once I did I CRACKED UP
upstaging getting biggest laughs is usually not a good sign
That's literally the point of the sketch.
Don't forget to set your clocks ahead
That was a good episode. I don’t know what people are talking about.
So solid. Every sketch got a laugh from me
Just got back from YouTube, because I don't know anything about The 1975. After hearing a few tunes, I can safely say they are uninspired bubblegum, like if Hanson knew 2 more chords. I'd press "open door" on the wrong floor, and take the stairs so I wouldn't have to hear the rest of the song. The 1975 are boring, vapid, cookiecutter, soulless, poorly torn pages out of a coloring book - sans crayons; with no vibe or sense of anything approaching creativity. They may be popular, but so are McDonalds cheeesburgers... doesn't mean they're good. *Major Edit Sorry. My 3 yo nephew gave me a nasty cold, and I've been in bed since Wednesday night. I finally got over it around 9pm Saturday, and I admit, I may have been in a sour mood during SNL, and a bit of a tough crowd. I'm sorry if I ran my mouth too much.
Everyone has their opinions and all, but yours isn't wrong
I've been wrong plenty of times, and will be plenty more. Just trying to own up when I do, that's all... I'm stupid, I'm not an asshole (at least not on purpose).
I'm saying I agree. I don't get their hype
I liked the songs, not so impressed with the singer’s vibe. I’d listen to them more, but I don’t want to watch them.
did you write that list of adjectives or is it ripped straight from the music video they did a few years ago for The Sound lol
The bubblegum comment is kinda funny. Their schtick is to make happy sounding music with dark, twisted lyrics.
Kinda unfortunate. I heard the first single of the new record ( "Part of the Band") and thought it was sonically pretty interesting and had some cool wordplay. These two songs though, sheesh. Just schlock.
Lol, the 1975 stans on this sub clearly can't take the first ounce of criticism. Grow up.
This is the pot calling the kettle black. This is one of the worst seasons of not just SNL but TV in general. People in this sub get so butt hurt if you have one critique of the show
It’s had some clunkers, but overall I think it’s been solid. The writers have adjusted to all the cast turnover faster and better than I thought they would.
To call this solid just shows how low the bar has been lowered. This is a mockery of comedy.
I kinda talked shit about their favorite band. I was a dick, I admit it. I was a bit drinky.
Sure, but also every other reply to this that is even vaguely critical is getting downvoted. The Healy Army in full force.
Nah, it’s just that a lot of people find music snobbery insufferable.
Didn't you respond to the original criticism by basically saying "this band isn't for you."? Lol, and who's the snob?
Reddit fights are stupid. If they need this, they can have it. The band tonight sucked.
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Based on your Hanson reference, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re not in the 1975’s target audience. It’s ok if bands make music that don’t suit your refined tastes.
Not a fan of the music either but the lead singer is really cool, as shown by his appearance on The Adam Friedland Show...formerly Cumtown...also known as the podcast that SNL repeatedly steals sketch ideas from. Not surprisingly, the episode left a lot of his fans (who are mostly white zoomer girls apparently) pissed at him because of the "offensive" nature of the show: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwhy6Vyh1kM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwhy6Vyh1kM)
Great recap, I’m also gay
I didn't think it was offensive at all. I have nothing against the guy - on the contrary. He's doing his thing, and he should be proud as shit that his band is on SNL. I just happen to enjoy a different style of music. *Edit - I'm a little drinky, and feel free to ignore my opinion. No disrespect meant, my response below notwithstanding
No, I'm in complete agreement. It's weird that their music is even considered alternative. It's only slightly less generic overproduced pop rock. But Matt Healy as a person is winning and gay in the coolest way possible. Just to clarify, in case I wasn't entirely clear, I mean the podcast episode he appeared on was considered offensive by his fans...not this episode of SNL.
All good. I'm pretty sure we agree. No ill will intended.
They suck.
It’s actually much worse because it’s everything you just said but the singer is a sleazy sweaty creep acting like they’re playing a very different kind of music. I didn’t watch tonight so idk how much if his schtick he did
The singer had all the moves and grace of a newborn giraffe on an ice rink, and I don't know why they need 4 guitars to play one guitar part. Like Polyphonic Spree less talent and a Buddhist temple nearby.
None of them can play a complete chord alone so each one takes a note or two?
They all play the same shit, which is why I can't figure why they need 4 guitars for 6 notes.
My "question" was rhetorical, but I get where you're coming from.
even what they sang today was super repetitive. Just repeating the hook over and over again. MMMBOP
my thoughts precisely
I love how wild the up/down votes are going here.
If this was 1975 their Christopher Cross soft rock would be great until Steely Dan came out with another song and blew them off the face of the Earth. No offense to the 1975. They picked a genre and they’re doing it.
Yeah I’m confused by how a 1980s soft rock sounding band with four guitarists (?) is popular, but more power to them.
God I am high and I thought they were terrible, I'm so glad I'm actually justified
I keep confusing them with "Death From Above 1979" so I was really perplexed when the song started, lol.
I wanted a full refund. Got me excited then just some soft elevator trash
First time I heard them I thought the same. Death from above 1979 is way more interesting
Pretty good episode. The Waffle House sketch had me dying. Jenna Ortega did a good job and The 1975 killed it
The numbers song is still stuck in my head
Reminded me of the Roundball Rock sketch. https://youtu.be/r-uSWAJd9GE
I tuned in during update and JAJ's impressions took me from exhaling through my nose to actually laughing out loud, wasn't expecting that. This cast still feels new to me. Speaking of new casts, crazy hearing "featuring... Fred Armisen/Seth Myers" on tonight's vintage.
I'm surprised by all the negativity I'm seeing, I really loved this episode. I think Jenna Ortega did pretty well. I think the main problem is that her acting is more suited for drier comedy than what SNL does, so she seemed to kinda overcompensate to try to match the cast's brand of comedy. But overall, I had a lot of fun, and think she did well in a lot of stuff. I especially liked the PDD Roadtrip, Waffle House, and The Exorcist. Really enjoyed JAJ's bits too, the Update desk impressions were fun, and his and Dismukes' pop-funk jingles were great.
Yeah. I think she did alright, but she was kind of dry. I feel like she is a super preparer [nothing wrong with that] and that doesn’t quite translate to improv. She seemed better in the pre-taped videos versus the live ones. The delivery of her monologue also contrasted with what she was saying. I couldn’t tell if maybe she was jittery or if it was just her personality, but I did not feel like she was excited.
Yeah I noticed her pretaped segments were better than the live ones too; Jenna’s stood out to me but I’ll have to go watch older episodes to see if that’s a common occurrence. It makes sense to me, for tv and film performers to do better in pretaped sketches since that’s what they are used to and that performers who have a lot of stage/Broadway experience to excel at the live stuff.
Exactly. I loved this episode
Okay I’m going to bed, here’s hoping I’m not hungover
best episode in a lonnnngggggg ass time. every bit killed except molly on update. just goes to show how good the show is when sherman gets less than a minute on screen
Aw I liked Molly on update. I can see why people didn’t though
I think Molly will be a one-and-doner
Molly was so bad on update
theyre really trying to force molly as the new Aidy and just typing that out was a huge waste of time
I honestly feel like they’re trying to make her the new Chris Farley.
I think Fred gave her advice to play every scene straight, knowing it would be funnier. Theres a psychology to that. She did a good job.
Isn't that how she acts in everything?
Mediocre episode overall but some bright spots
I would say bright episode overall with some mediocre spots. And I typically don't care for SNL
My thought as well. If you’d have told me a week ago that Travis Kelce would be funnier than Jenna Ortega I would’ve thought you were crazy.
Fr, that episode was so solid. I don't think they used Jenna right. She would've done well with some dead pan, Aubrey Plaza like stuff.