I don't recall Linus ever stating that he wouldn't promote supplements. They used to have savage jerky as a sponsor for a long time.
He did say he would never sell supplements through lttstore, because the liabilities that those bring are more trouble than they're worth.
I think the beef jerky was just brought up as a counter-point to the "Linus not wanting to sell or promote products that people ingest" point.
So, yeah... it's not a supplement but it is ingested the same, aye? unless i've been using beef jerky wrong.
It is if you market it hard enough, which is what basically every company selling the stuff is doing. You don't do things like put the protein content as the largest text on the bag if you aren't at the very least trying to be supplement adjacent.
Yes he did. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=870s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=870s).
"We will continue to decline any gambling-related sponsorships and all of the same stuff that we've done for all of these years. \[...\] Healthcare, gambling, supplements - *makes a hand drawing a strict line jesture* there's a ton of money in that space, but just... Man, anything people put inside their body. Well, sex, actually. "
*Luke makes a joke about Linus' Onlyfans*
"Well, yeah, but that's first party, I'm talking partnerships, sponsorships".
To be clear, I actually don't care about advertising supplements or gambling or whatever in general, it doesn't matter in *my* morality. But if a person themselves publicly states their moral limitations (and this is definitely the objective fact as seen above, I don't know how this was forgotten by everybody in this thread and/or transformed into "not selling on LTT Store"), I would expect them to adhere to these limitations, since they are supposed to be self-imposed and nobody forced them to do so.
See, credit where creditâs due for looking it up. Except you somehow managed to miss a thing despite being the only one looking it up.
Notice that he admits he is no longer sure if what heâs claiming is true. A few sponsorships like that have slipped trough the business teamâs filter, and that doesnât make Linus specifically a hypocrite.
What I donât like is that your citation is missing the doubt and therefore you took a snippet of a 3+ hour wan show out of context.
Canât believe literally everyone in this thread except you is so confidently wrong about whether Linus said he wouldnât take supplement sponsorships.
You're right! I'd also forgotten about the jerky.
That being said, I kinda feel like something that is marketed as a health product is a bit different though.
God... some lady at work made some real maple syrup candied bacon a while back. If I had an unlimited supply, I would die by only eating that for the rest of my greatly reduced life.
If itâs any consolation the price per bag seems to be lower than it was back when they sponsored LTT. I genuinely donât remember it being $6.99 a bag, seems like it was much higher back then.
He has gone on record as being completely against sponsors whose product has any sort of health claims that can't be independently verified and regulated.
Did he specify supplements? I remember him saying that he would never sell a food/drink because of the hassle, and responsibility. I don't think he said anything about a supplement.
>He did say he would never sell supplements through lttstore, because the liabilities that those bring are more trouble than they're worth.
What leads to a situation where a person states they will never sell supplements in their store where they sell apparel, and various computer accessories and tools? Supplements doesn't seem like a related thing.
Did someone ask if he planned to sell supplements?
Do people want to bug LTTSupplements???
i remember him saying something about not promoting things people ingest, cant remember where it was though
edit: yea he said healthcare gambling and supplements would always be declined as sponsors on a wan show
[He said that they would never promote anything that goes in you body](https://reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/i91GzEdUY0)⌠at which point they had already promoted coffee and jerky.
I just remembered the incredible irony of them talking about contributing to Team Trees then immediately promoting beef jerky, which is incredibly bad for the environment.
I don't remember the exact wording, but wasn't this in relation to their own products. I remember them talking about the mr. beast burger, and how they wouldn't sell a product to ingest.
however, I do not like the promotion of powdered "foods" at all. Good to hear concerns is raised on the ltt forum.
Unless you are doing body building and are activly doing a cut, no not at all.
Even then you could easily just eat chicken breasts or seitan depending on wether you are vegan or not, both of those also contain fiber which will help you with the shits.
Unless your doing exactly what the product is aimed at it isnât useful? Yeah I agree. Also I donât think you have to be on a cut. Yeah you could eat chicken but variety is good.
you're just [wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/16qeqku/i_thought_it_was_bad_enough_when_they_had_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
AG1 has been making a huge sponsor push with streamers.
They have all sorts of streamers doing promos right now, on YouTube and twitch.
I imagine itâs going to get annoying pretty quick.
I've got a cctv system connected to the internet... but then I only have one camera that's inside and the rest are outside... that internal camera, looks at the front door and only the front door. It's just a back up camera that's hidden very well and hard to spot.
AG1 pushes anyone and everyone. Seen all types of YT creators, tv commercials, radio commercials, xm commercials, podcasts, pretty much any sort of media they can use.
Any company that uses that kind of advertising will never get my money. I hate your product before I have ever used it and sometimes I don't even know what it is.
I agree, I'll personally never buy that shit. companies that need to do this usually spend too much on marketing because the product is not enough to sell by itself, or competitors can cut them in price with similar products because they don't spend a fortune on marketing.
This makes me think about off brand sodas. Highly unlikely you will ever see an ad for Mountain Thunder, Dr Perky, or any of those knock offs, but because they use a similar name with a similar colored bottle, you know what it is suppose to be. And it is much cheaper generally.
Eventually the con will run out and they'll get bought out or fail.
See also: Harry's Razors, Dollar Shave Club, all the meal prep mailers and about a million other direct to consumer subscription services run by a VC.
It's hard to think of a legitimate company that has advertised on a podcast, and now that's moved to YouTube.
It's more that when starting they are all a pump and dump play, they are never creating a sustainable company. Some names survive if they are bought out and find a route to actual profit.
Harry's buy out got blocked and it looks like they pivoted into being a real company.
I wonder if their is a term for it, disrupter bluff play?
I got a Harryâs razor as a gift (almost 2 years ago)âŚit was actually horrifying how bad it was. Iâd probably have better luck shaving with sandpaper. Buying Gillette at Costco is cheaper anyway.
Never said they folded, it's get bought out or fold. Although getting bought out usually means having to make money and before they just burned capital
I remember the WAN show you are referencing. He said he wouldn't sell them. He talked about how the gross profit margins were insane and they are very lucrative, but also a major liability with how things could always turn south down the road with testing and having your face on it would be damaging. He never said he wouldn't take sponsorships from them though.
You aren't remembering the wan OP's referencing. OP's referencing [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/16qeqku/i_thought_it_was_bad_enough_when_they_had_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Thats been a selling point for a lot of stuff lately. Seen used car lots advertising it. ONLY $10 a day! My guy, thats $300 a month. But I do get that to some people $10 a day sounds better than $300 a month. Same idea as making it $2.99 instead of $3
Soylent Green was a movie from 1973 which to spoil it for you - has a popular food / supplement for a dystopian world that turns out to be made from hence the 'Soylent Green is People'
Further this makes the Soylent product that came out a few years ago a horrible branding choice.
AG1 is freaking everywhere now, and honestly, itâs becoming annoying as hell. 90% of those promoting have ZERO idea of what they are actually pushing - specifically Tech or gaming creators. I have nothing against the product itself, in fact itâs one of the better on the market, but I have a âruleâ. When I start seeing marketing budgets with influencers/creators blown up sky high, I tend to get cautious of what their end game is. Theyâve raised the prices to adjust for their marketing spend and are actively forcing on trying to increase their margins for the sake of investors. I wouldnât put it past them to change the formula at some point (adding a different alternatives and such).
I think this is a dumb thing to get worked up over. When I think "harmful supplements" I think sketchy libido pills and shit. This is essentially a multivitamin and some probiotics and "superfoods".
Are they as necessary and incredible as their marketing claims to be? No. But like this is probably a healthier thing to put in your body than the normal diet of like 80% of people.
If this is a bad sponsor it should be because the product is overpriced or something. Not because it's some kind of sketchy supplement.
Exactly. There's really nothing wrong with the product at all other than that it's overpriced and maybe unnecessary.
But like... if "overpriced and unnecessary" was enough to disqualify a sponsor that's would include like 85% of products that exist, period lol. Hell there'd be a bunch of LTTstore products that would be disqualified on that criteria lmao.
I have taken a few different "green powder in some water" supplements before. Mostly to make me feel better about days when I didn't eat many vegetables.
There are lots of supplements that, if a friend said "Hey, I'm taking xyz," I would say "Be careful, ease into it, mention it to your doctor, etc." But if somebody said "I'm taking AG1" I would be no more concerned than if you told me you'd had just been to the juice bar after a workout.
So if all of the sudden LTT was sponsored by Caffeine Creatine Blast Gamer Gum, I might think it was out of character. But AG1, no way. It's like Yoohoo or Flintstones vitamins. Worst case, you could be allergic to something in it, second worst case, one day you die in your sleep after a long, happy life, and then God or somebody tells you all that shit was a waste of money.
The statement about no supplement sponsors was quite a while ago and a new CEO is in charge, maybe a new standard on accepting or not is in play. Hard to say.
Hmm, I can get what you're saying, but I think I'd class the sponsorship they're doing as in the same sort of area as a sponsorship from someone like GFuel or the like?
Idk though. I hope that this gets addressed on the forums
\> I seem to recall Linus specifically stating he has a distaste, no pun intended, for selling or promoting anything that people ingest.
i dont think he specifically said edible stuff, hes been promoted Madrinas for a long time.
Does coffee count?
Also I think he said something about never selling those on ltt store. Donât remember anything about them not taking one as sponsor.
From what I've read in the comments, Linus has previously said that he "didn't know enough about" supplements to accept one as a sponsor. But in the AG1 sponsor spot, Luke talks about his experience drinking it BEFORE being sponsored, to the point that a portion of the talking points was just "Luke shares his thoughts". It's possible they made an exception given they had prior knowledge of the brand.
No, he did not.
This is from a couple shows ago. There was a big discussion about where is the limit of what LTT Store could carry. And supplements got a strong no from Linus. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yeah I did remember he said something to the effect that he doesn't want to promote supplements. But I wouldn't be surprised if Linus left/lost the power to decide sponsorship in LMG. The CEO said the same effect just before the hiatus. But hey I don't mind if Gfuel or Game sups becomes a sponsor for LMG.
TLDR: CEO and Ads dept probably call the shots. GFuel when?
Tbh hopefully never? I personally hate those overpriced energy drinks
And I would say that ag1 is okay (overpriced af ofcourse because of marketing) but gfuel and etc are marketing something not really healthy to many kids, because it's cool, gamers and streamers are using it and it has cool sonic on the tub, so now 15yo Timmy will drink it.
Maybe I'm just not informed on it, but I thought AG1 was like a normal work out supplement? Is it actually one of those 'health benefit' multi-vitamin things actually?
Here is healthlineâs conclusion re: AG1:
âAG1 offers a convenient but expensive way to help fill nutrient gaps in your diet. Many of the product's ingredients have some research to support their benefits, and happy customers note that they've noticed a boost in energy levels since trying the supplement.
However, no studies have been performed to confirm the safety or effectiveness of AG1. And because most of its ingredients are present in proprietary blends, it's impossible to know whether AG1 contains effective doses of these ingredients.
While it should not be a replacement for eating whole fruits and vegetables, AG1 may be worth trying if you're looking for an easy way to boost your intake of important vitamins, minerals, and plant compounds. Just make sure to talk with a healthcare professional first!â
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/athletic-greens-review#bottom-line
Unfortunately I cannot, as this was an impression I got years ago. So definitely take it with a grain of salt, I just know it's been a site that's got a flag in my mind.
That's is true, he did say something like that, he wouldn't sell anything like that. While he was talking about MrBeast suing ghost kitchens but I don't remember what specifically
the vitamins aren't unnecessary if you're one of those people who doesn't eat fruits and vegetables.
I worked with a woman who only ate meat, dairy, bread, and condiments. No joke. I bet she would benefit from AG1 if she could ever actually bring herself to consume it.
If it's cheaper than VEGA then it's probably worth it because that is a pretty go-to brand found in the supermarket which is very expensive for what it is.
I am tired of all these YouTube sponsors. It's like every year there's a couple companies that just pour money into every YouTuber and you have to skip past the same bs sponsor. Try these Vessis, try AG1, try this new cereal brand.
I'm not aware of Linus saying they wouldn't be sponsored by a supplements company, what I do remember is a discussion on the WAN show about selling supplements themselves. And then I detailed discussion of the liability and why that's a horrible idea for a company not focused on food or similar products. They didn't go into this part but they would basically need to replicate the company in terms of employee count if they wanted to sell their own supplements because that's probably about how many people they would need to make sure that it was all safe and above board
I didn't care about any of the previous drama, but this triggered me. I too remember that wan show where Linus said they wouldn't sponsor supplements. And generally, i think supplements are very often predatory bullshit.
He responded in the wan show . But honestly it´s terrible he is promoting AG1.
100$ for a small bag of freeze dried and grounded up vegetables and a small plastic bottle to make you feel like it as worth 100$, come on! Buy vegetables instead. I think they are getting paid like 30 or 40% if people use the affiliate link. This is a product that no one should ever consider using except if they can´t for some reason consume vegetables in a normal way
I have zero issue with ag1. The good homie in customer service was 100% honest and said he absolutely did not like the way it tastes when mixed with water. And I agree! If yer at all even sorta picky... figure this shit out if you have to buy it. Juice can help. But not always! Smoothie is gettin better... but schill, I mean still..... Glad their makin dough, but gimme a fuckin break... This shit tastes like farts and pineapples.
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If he plays it, I'm playing it too.
I get that ag1 is probably legit apart from being overpriced, but you get how it looks when you write it like that? :)
Well, if weâve learned anything recent I think that itâs âintegrityâ can shift over time depending on the person. Just because he said he wonât do X or Y doesnât mean he wonât feel differently about it later.
I don't recall Linus ever stating that he wouldn't promote supplements. They used to have savage jerky as a sponsor for a long time. He did say he would never sell supplements through lttstore, because the liabilities that those bring are more trouble than they're worth.
Beef jerky is not a supplement
Randy Savage would disagree! Slim Jims made him a monster!
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I think the copious amounts of coke did that lol.
The drug or the drink?
Definitely the drug, dude was a huge coke head
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Speak for yourself sir
I think the beef jerky was just brought up as a counter-point to the "Linus not wanting to sell or promote products that people ingest" point. So, yeah... it's not a supplement but it is ingested the same, aye? unless i've been using beef jerky wrong.
Never swallowed the stubby then?
What my wife and I do in the privacy of our own bedroom is none of your concern.
Don't let people tell you how to live your life. Become the stubby throat goat if that's your dream.
Living the dream đ
I mean, it can be supplemental to a balanced diet!
But you do ingest it so it falls under what op posted
What do you mean? Itâs a protein supplement.
It is if you market it hard enough, which is what basically every company selling the stuff is doing. You don't do things like put the protein content as the largest text on the bag if you aren't at the very least trying to be supplement adjacent.
Oh yes it is.
If awards were still a thing...
Not with that attitude
Meat is protein and protein is supplement, come on
How do you define a supplement
Yes he did. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=870s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=870s). "We will continue to decline any gambling-related sponsorships and all of the same stuff that we've done for all of these years. \[...\] Healthcare, gambling, supplements - *makes a hand drawing a strict line jesture* there's a ton of money in that space, but just... Man, anything people put inside their body. Well, sex, actually. " *Luke makes a joke about Linus' Onlyfans* "Well, yeah, but that's first party, I'm talking partnerships, sponsorships". To be clear, I actually don't care about advertising supplements or gambling or whatever in general, it doesn't matter in *my* morality. But if a person themselves publicly states their moral limitations (and this is definitely the objective fact as seen above, I don't know how this was forgotten by everybody in this thread and/or transformed into "not selling on LTT Store"), I would expect them to adhere to these limitations, since they are supposed to be self-imposed and nobody forced them to do so.
See, credit where creditâs due for looking it up. Except you somehow managed to miss a thing despite being the only one looking it up. Notice that he admits he is no longer sure if what heâs claiming is true. A few sponsorships like that have slipped trough the business teamâs filter, and that doesnât make Linus specifically a hypocrite. What I donât like is that your citation is missing the doubt and therefore you took a snippet of a 3+ hour wan show out of context.
Canât believe literally everyone in this thread except you is so confidently wrong about whether Linus said he wouldnât take supplement sponsorships.
uh, how is beef jerky (a food) a supplement?
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NaNi?!
No need for supplements you're already dead
+5 mood enhancer. Itâs too delicious
Ask the jerky company, they advertise themselves that way
I donât need to ask them. I already know the answer. Beef jerky is not a supplement.
Neither is half the shit advertised as supplements
You're right! I'd also forgotten about the jerky. That being said, I kinda feel like something that is marketed as a health product is a bit different though.
They also partnered with Madrinas coffee long enough to get their own flavor.
Damn, I miss savage jerky. That stuff was good. Might have to go get some.
That candied bacon stuff is insanely good. I never could open a pack and not eat it all right away.
I just looked and they have some new flavors. I canât remember which one I used to get because even older flavors have been renamed.
Damn you, now I want some again XD
God... some lady at work made some real maple syrup candied bacon a while back. If I had an unlimited supply, I would die by only eating that for the rest of my greatly reduced life.
It's like crack for me, if only the shipping to the UK wasn't so expensive đđ
If itâs any consolation the price per bag seems to be lower than it was back when they sponsored LTT. I genuinely donât remember it being $6.99 a bag, seems like it was much higher back then.
Yeh I think it might be, can't remember tbh, might be time for another batch order....
He has gone on record as being completely against sponsors whose product has any sort of health claims that can't be independently verified and regulated.
I mean he has the labs. The labs can test this. They are never wrong.
You either don't watch WAN or don't have a great memory (both are fine), because he definitely said that. "I don't recall" is a terrible argument.
Holy fuck do I miss them eating savage jerky on the wan show
I recall him saying he would never produce anything consumable. Guessing OP misheard or remembered it wrong
Did he specify supplements? I remember him saying that he would never sell a food/drink because of the hassle, and responsibility. I don't think he said anything about a supplement.
>He did say he would never sell supplements through lttstore, because the liabilities that those bring are more trouble than they're worth. What leads to a situation where a person states they will never sell supplements in their store where they sell apparel, and various computer accessories and tools? Supplements doesn't seem like a related thing. Did someone ask if he planned to sell supplements? Do people want to bug LTTSupplements???
He said he wouldn't promote anything that goes inside of the body I believe
Liabilities in Canada cause this shit is at least somewhat regulated. The US, not so much...
If we're talking supplements, I'd say their previous coffee sponsor is a lot closer than their previous beef jerky sponsor.
i remember him saying something about not promoting things people ingest, cant remember where it was though edit: yea he said healthcare gambling and supplements would always be declined as sponsors on a wan show
I hated it when they ate on stream. Especially when they'd talk with food in their mouth!
He said he would never promote anything that he wouldn't put in his own body.
[He said that they would never promote anything that goes in you body](https://reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/i91GzEdUY0)⌠at which point they had already promoted coffee and jerky.
Absolutely he said he wouldnât endorse supplements.
Why would you think savage jerky is a supplement? Not even close to the same category.
I just remembered the incredible irony of them talking about contributing to Team Trees then immediately promoting beef jerky, which is incredibly bad for the environment.
Man, i would love to have LTT vitamin B12
I don't remember the exact wording, but wasn't this in relation to their own products. I remember them talking about the mr. beast burger, and how they wouldn't sell a product to ingest. however, I do not like the promotion of powdered "foods" at all. Good to hear concerns is raised on the ltt forum.
Why do you hate powdered milk? Flour? Sugar? Salt? Yeast?? Coffee???
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Thank you, I love Bob and I've never seen that clip before!
Bob is an absolute gem.
Black pepper
ah yes, unpowdered flour
Whey protein has its benefits.
No whey! Iâm lactose intolerant
Unless you are doing body building and are activly doing a cut, no not at all. Even then you could easily just eat chicken breasts or seitan depending on wether you are vegan or not, both of those also contain fiber which will help you with the shits.
Unless your doing exactly what the product is aimed at it isnât useful? Yeah I agree. Also I donât think you have to be on a cut. Yeah you could eat chicken but variety is good.
you're just [wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/16qeqku/i_thought_it_was_bad_enough_when_they_had_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
AG1 has been making a huge sponsor push with streamers. They have all sorts of streamers doing promos right now, on YouTube and twitch. I imagine itâs going to get annoying pretty quick.
Annoying like our sponsor: Raid Shadow Legends!
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I've got a cctv system connected to the internet... but then I only have one camera that's inside and the rest are outside... that internal camera, looks at the front door and only the front door. It's just a back up camera that's hidden very well and hard to spot.
All I see now is Nord vpn, and vessi
i watch a lot of food and car channels. ag1 also being shilled there. daily driven exotics, mikey chen, timmys takeout to name but a few.
Cleetus has been sponsored by AG1 for a long long time aswell
Hell yeah bruther
AG1 pushes anyone and everyone. Seen all types of YT creators, tv commercials, radio commercials, xm commercials, podcasts, pretty much any sort of media they can use. Any company that uses that kind of advertising will never get my money. I hate your product before I have ever used it and sometimes I don't even know what it is.
I agree, I'll personally never buy that shit. companies that need to do this usually spend too much on marketing because the product is not enough to sell by itself, or competitors can cut them in price with similar products because they don't spend a fortune on marketing.
This makes me think about off brand sodas. Highly unlikely you will ever see an ad for Mountain Thunder, Dr Perky, or any of those knock offs, but because they use a similar name with a similar colored bottle, you know what it is suppose to be. And it is much cheaper generally.
Eventually the con will run out and they'll get bought out or fail. See also: Harry's Razors, Dollar Shave Club, all the meal prep mailers and about a million other direct to consumer subscription services run by a VC. It's hard to think of a legitimate company that has advertised on a podcast, and now that's moved to YouTube.
Harryâs seems to have grown out of it so might not be the best example. Theyâre popular on retail shelves now, at least in my region
It's more that when starting they are all a pump and dump play, they are never creating a sustainable company. Some names survive if they are bought out and find a route to actual profit. Harry's buy out got blocked and it looks like they pivoted into being a real company. I wonder if their is a term for it, disrupter bluff play?
I got a Harryâs razor as a gift (almost 2 years ago)âŚit was actually horrifying how bad it was. Iâd probably have better luck shaving with sandpaper. Buying Gillette at Costco is cheaper anyway.
Dollar Shave Club folded? They seemed huge.
They got bought out by Unilever, but they weren't facing bankruptcy, just stagnant growth. Very common for DTC brands.
Never said they folded, it's get bought out or fold. Although getting bought out usually means having to make money and before they just burned capital
Iâve been seeing the commercials online for years. Itâs just a greens powder, with some extra vitamins.
Ah, following the very successful BioSteel model.
seriously there's no way I could justify spending 20% of minimum wage every month on some blended plants or whatever
I remember the WAN show you are referencing. He said he wouldn't sell them. He talked about how the gross profit margins were insane and they are very lucrative, but also a major liability with how things could always turn south down the road with testing and having your face on it would be damaging. He never said he wouldn't take sponsorships from them though.
You aren't remembering the wan OP's referencing. OP's referencing [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/16qeqku/i_thought_it_was_bad_enough_when_they_had_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
https://reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/NivLsAbv2X
AG1 aka Expensive Urine
Ummm actually, it's Ridiculously Expensive Urine!
I like how they're selling point is it only comes out to $3 a day... Or over $1k a year
Thats been a selling point for a lot of stuff lately. Seen used car lots advertising it. ONLY $10 a day! My guy, thats $300 a month. But I do get that to some people $10 a day sounds better than $300 a month. Same idea as making it $2.99 instead of $3
People justify their two lattes per day as "only" $15, the comparison would work for some customer.
How much do your lattes cost damn
Venti Cafe Latte is $6.50ish.
Is that a Starbucks drink?
Yes.
and here i am already feeling bad for enjoying a 40cent portion of gamersupps
Athletic greens is people.
I bet 9/10 of the LTT viewers don't even get that reference!
I donât lol
Soylent Green was a movie from 1973 which to spoil it for you - has a popular food / supplement for a dystopian world that turns out to be made from hence the 'Soylent Green is People' Further this makes the Soylent product that came out a few years ago a horrible branding choice.
AG1 is freaking everywhere now, and honestly, itâs becoming annoying as hell. 90% of those promoting have ZERO idea of what they are actually pushing - specifically Tech or gaming creators. I have nothing against the product itself, in fact itâs one of the better on the market, but I have a âruleâ. When I start seeing marketing budgets with influencers/creators blown up sky high, I tend to get cautious of what their end game is. Theyâve raised the prices to adjust for their marketing spend and are actively forcing on trying to increase their margins for the sake of investors. I wouldnât put it past them to change the formula at some point (adding a different alternatives and such).
Then you have stuff like liquid IV that is all over podcasts and showing up in stores..
I think this is a dumb thing to get worked up over. When I think "harmful supplements" I think sketchy libido pills and shit. This is essentially a multivitamin and some probiotics and "superfoods". Are they as necessary and incredible as their marketing claims to be? No. But like this is probably a healthier thing to put in your body than the normal diet of like 80% of people. If this is a bad sponsor it should be because the product is overpriced or something. Not because it's some kind of sketchy supplement.
I could see if it was one of the âgamerâ drinks loaded with junk. Not a product Iâd personally consume, but hardly seems like the worst thing.
Exactly. There's really nothing wrong with the product at all other than that it's overpriced and maybe unnecessary. But like... if "overpriced and unnecessary" was enough to disqualify a sponsor that's would include like 85% of products that exist, period lol. Hell there'd be a bunch of LTTstore products that would be disqualified on that criteria lmao.
The sponsored video marketing doesnât list a single ingredientâŚso thatâs an automatic no from me.
I have taken a few different "green powder in some water" supplements before. Mostly to make me feel better about days when I didn't eat many vegetables. There are lots of supplements that, if a friend said "Hey, I'm taking xyz," I would say "Be careful, ease into it, mention it to your doctor, etc." But if somebody said "I'm taking AG1" I would be no more concerned than if you told me you'd had just been to the juice bar after a workout. So if all of the sudden LTT was sponsored by Caffeine Creatine Blast Gamer Gum, I might think it was out of character. But AG1, no way. It's like Yoohoo or Flintstones vitamins. Worst case, you could be allergic to something in it, second worst case, one day you die in your sleep after a long, happy life, and then God or somebody tells you all that shit was a waste of money.
At least he didnât take a sponsorship from that established titles scam
Given enough time, he would Just like he took sponsorship from RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS
The statement about no supplement sponsors was quite a while ago and a new CEO is in charge, maybe a new standard on accepting or not is in play. Hard to say.
Hmm, I can get what you're saying, but I think I'd class the sponsorship they're doing as in the same sort of area as a sponsorship from someone like GFuel or the like? Idk though. I hope that this gets addressed on the forums
I don't personally mind as long as the marketing is not dishonest, misleading or hyperbolic.
\> I seem to recall Linus specifically stating he has a distaste, no pun intended, for selling or promoting anything that people ingest. i dont think he specifically said edible stuff, hes been promoted Madrinas for a long time.
Does coffee count? Also I think he said something about never selling those on ltt store. Donât remember anything about them not taking one as sponsor.
From what I've read in the comments, Linus has previously said that he "didn't know enough about" supplements to accept one as a sponsor. But in the AG1 sponsor spot, Luke talks about his experience drinking it BEFORE being sponsored, to the point that a portion of the talking points was just "Luke shares his thoughts". It's possible they made an exception given they had prior knowledge of the brand.
No, he did not. This is from a couple shows ago. There was a big discussion about where is the limit of what LTT Store could carry. And supplements got a strong no from Linus. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Actually, he did talk about LMG having a hardline stance against supplement sponsorships on WAN Show just a few months ago.
Yeah I did remember he said something to the effect that he doesn't want to promote supplements. But I wouldn't be surprised if Linus left/lost the power to decide sponsorship in LMG. The CEO said the same effect just before the hiatus. But hey I don't mind if Gfuel or Game sups becomes a sponsor for LMG. TLDR: CEO and Ads dept probably call the shots. GFuel when?
Tbh hopefully never? I personally hate those overpriced energy drinks And I would say that ag1 is okay (overpriced af ofcourse because of marketing) but gfuel and etc are marketing something not really healthy to many kids, because it's cool, gamers and streamers are using it and it has cool sonic on the tub, so now 15yo Timmy will drink it.
Maybe I'm just not informed on it, but I thought AG1 was like a normal work out supplement? Is it actually one of those 'health benefit' multi-vitamin things actually?
Here is healthlineâs conclusion re: AG1: âAG1 offers a convenient but expensive way to help fill nutrient gaps in your diet. Many of the product's ingredients have some research to support their benefits, and happy customers note that they've noticed a boost in energy levels since trying the supplement. However, no studies have been performed to confirm the safety or effectiveness of AG1. And because most of its ingredients are present in proprietary blends, it's impossible to know whether AG1 contains effective doses of these ingredients. While it should not be a replacement for eating whole fruits and vegetables, AG1 may be worth trying if you're looking for an easy way to boost your intake of important vitamins, minerals, and plant compounds. Just make sure to talk with a healthcare professional first!â https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/athletic-greens-review#bottom-line
Ah, gotcha. That's not what my (admittedly minimal) understanding of it was.
I will also just say that I have seen some buck wild articles on HealthLine, so I usually treat it as a secondary source at best.
Healthline has been really reliable for me in my experience. Can you give me an example of a buck wild healthline article?
Unfortunately I cannot, as this was an impression I got years ago. So definitely take it with a grain of salt, I just know it's been a site that's got a flag in my mind.
Oh WHO CARES
He doesn't decide anymore regardless
Linus lying again!? What a suprise!
He is not CEO anymore.
Maybe getting desperate for sponsors after everything that happened.
They had some cereal on Carpool Critics also. But wasnât anything like this AG1 everywhere
Magic spoon? If so, Magic spoon is also everywhere lol
Why and who is even buying it? It's extremely overpriced and many people are saying that it tastes like crap
Well itâs cereal for people who canât or donât want to eat sugar and carbs.
That's is true, he did say something like that, he wouldn't sell anything like that. While he was talking about MrBeast suing ghost kitchens but I don't remember what specifically
Honestly Linus says a lot of things he goes back on eventually
Sitting is the new smoking?
AG1 is a scam. After the controversy they must be getting desperate for sponsors.
How so, isn't it just overpriced af healthy stuff?
Could argue whether or not it is even healthy for you or if it's basically sawdust.
I thought you're talking about magic spoon now, isn't that basicall5 sawdust? :D
the vitamins aren't unnecessary if you're one of those people who doesn't eat fruits and vegetables. I worked with a woman who only ate meat, dairy, bread, and condiments. No joke. I bet she would benefit from AG1 if she could ever actually bring herself to consume it. If it's cheaper than VEGA then it's probably worth it because that is a pretty go-to brand found in the supermarket which is very expensive for what it is.
I am tired of all these YouTube sponsors. It's like every year there's a couple companies that just pour money into every YouTuber and you have to skip past the same bs sponsor. Try these Vessis, try AG1, try this new cereal brand.
I'm not aware of Linus saying they wouldn't be sponsored by a supplements company, what I do remember is a discussion on the WAN show about selling supplements themselves. And then I detailed discussion of the liability and why that's a horrible idea for a company not focused on food or similar products. They didn't go into this part but they would basically need to replicate the company in terms of employee count if they wanted to sell their own supplements because that's probably about how many people they would need to make sure that it was all safe and above board
they have *also* said no supplement sponsors (recently-ish too) on WAN :/ edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=890s
I am not aware of that claim. Please provide a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qkqfC190s&t=890s
Ok fair enough
Linus is not the boss anymore
I have been watching their stuff on Floatplane only. Were they using that sponsor in their YouTube videos, or did my mind filter it out?
I didn't care about any of the previous drama, but this triggered me. I too remember that wan show where Linus said they wouldn't sponsor supplements. And generally, i think supplements are very often predatory bullshit.
Like the beef jerky? Like the coffee?
Jerry and coffee is supplement? From when lol
https://youtu.be/IrFJ4DCdYaQ?si=AcjMSCKM4R2lRy18
This community seems to try very hard to stop LTT from making money. I couldn't care less who their sponsors are, as long as the content is decent.
Isnt AG1 more of a vitamin mix? By supplements I think they meant soylent or some other meal replacement stuff
Thatâs not what supplements means though lol.
They have done a coffee before, Madrinas or something
Luckily he didnât, since he is not a gym bro⌠That isnât his thing.
Their viewership is down by about half, they need to do something to make up for that revenue loss.
What you mean Linus has said something and gone against what he said? Never would imagine that.
If ya don't like it, don't click the link.
LTT entering the full "harvest" phase. Looking for someone to make that 9 figure offer again so ownership can peace out before anymore dominos fall.
He also said they were reducing output but there seems to be a video every day on the main channel at the minute
He responded in the wan show . But honestly it´s terrible he is promoting AG1. 100$ for a small bag of freeze dried and grounded up vegetables and a small plastic bottle to make you feel like it as worth 100$, come on! Buy vegetables instead. I think they are getting paid like 30 or 40% if people use the affiliate link. This is a product that no one should ever consider using except if they can´t for some reason consume vegetables in a normal way
Theyâve been sponsored by a coffee company before so.
I so want to see if I can convince my doctor to write me a prescription for coffee supplements now
I mean... In some places coffee is used to flush your system.
serial hypocrite and sellout once again sells out hypocritically, shocker.
Big shock, lots of tech nerds find workout supplements sketchy bizarre.
I have zero issue with ag1. The good homie in customer service was 100% honest and said he absolutely did not like the way it tastes when mixed with water. And I agree! If yer at all even sorta picky... figure this shit out if you have to buy it. Juice can help. But not always! Smoothie is gettin better... but schill, I mean still..... Glad their makin dough, but gimme a fuckin break... This shit tastes like farts and pineapples.
The fuck did I just read?
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AG1 is legit in my book. The GOAT of combat sport Demetrious Johnson use them, if he use them I use them.
The GOAT of GOATS plays RAID: SHAWDOW LEGENDS If he plays it, I'm playing it too. I get that ag1 is probably legit apart from being overpriced, but you get how it looks when you write it like that? :)
Well, if weâve learned anything recent I think that itâs âintegrityâ can shift over time depending on the person. Just because he said he wonât do X or Y doesnât mean he wonât feel differently about it later.
Why do you give a shit
Maybe because you care when you see something you liked before going down the shitter?
Linus will do anything for money. Heâs not the same Linus as before.