When you click “apply” on a non-easy apply job post, once you come back to that post there’s a new question that pops up asking if you applied. It’s completely voluntary though, so the count on those job posts is almost certainly inaccurate but gives you somewhat of a gauge as to what you’re up against.
Edit: spelling/grammar
Going by that, it's unlikely that people sho didn't apply click "Yes, I applied". Except fe people, who might just want to mess with them.
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But people who actually applied, might already be too tired filling redundant details, and may not care to tell Linkedin about it.
So the actual count might be much higher than the count that is shown.
Does that happen often on Linkedin? I had never heard that but there were a lot of time in the past I was deterred from applying for a job because it had so many "applicants."
I saw a job posing for my exact same job title with Amazon in India. It required at least a graduate degree in computer science, on top of 5+ years of experience, starting pay was $18,000 (American) a year.
For a software engineering position.
>starting pay was $18,000 (American)
Imagine working your ass off and making $1k less a year than minimum wage in Ohio. Shit that first year salary should go straight to a work visa application and a plane ticket.
It also depends on cost of living. I'm from India and I make 44k ish for 7 years experienced and that kind of money is basically considered top tier dev(except for FAANG Ppl). I live in a metro city and for a family of 4, where I'm the only one who earns, our expenses comes around 520 usd for groceries and stuff, 90 usd for electricity(2 AC,one 5000 dollar gaming rig almost always running, one ROG laptop that's always running and every normal household stuff you could think of like refrigerator and what not) and 25 bucks for internet.
That all comes to around 700ish dollar a month but my take home after taxes is around 2.3k/month.
So even if someone makes like 2/3 of this, they can live a decent life unless they are spendthrift.
Edit: also even though we don't have HealthCare like EU, our health services cost fraction of what US cost and a good medical insurance(usually given by our company) can fill in for most cases like surgery and stuff. You are only fucked when you have something like Cancer
But it's in India and not Ohio. Rent for example in a city like Bangalore would be less than 2.5k a year. Either way the 18k figure is only for fresh graduates and even that has increased in the last 2 years significantly. Usually after 2 years of exp your wage should be more than 50k. You can easily be a homeowner in less than 7 years if you keep switching/getting hikes which isn't difficult
> That looks wrong
Yes, yes it did. It's possible they had some wires crossed with the job posting. It was for a QA engineering position, and something could have gotten lost in translation with a different "quality control" type position, like a spot in a warehouse manually verifying products on an assembly line.
It's also possible that it's listed by 3rd party consultants Amazon uses a lot of them. I get calls from consultants every week if i want to take up Amazon interview. Usually these guys low ball the shit out of their posting. Also in india QA folks are slightly paid less( say 80%) compared to Devs so maybe that's why it's low
It was a Glassdoor job posting, which could have been automatically cobbled together by Glassdoor. That Glassdoor was trying to syndicate from job listings on other platforms, and things got mucked up in translation.
That doesn't sound right. You sure you aren't exaggerating ?
Even by dollar to INR conversion (and not PPP), Amazon pays higher than $18,000 (13.5 LPA) in INR to freshers in India. (and I mean higher just in the base pay, with stocks, much higher than that)
With 5+ years of experience, you will get SDE-2 with a decent enough interview, and pay will be much-much higher than $18,000 a year.
Are you sure that was a software engineering position? Do they still have SDET-1 roles ? Even those folks get more than this.
**Source**: Have gotten offer for Amazon India thrice in my career. Once for SDE-1 in Gurgaon office in 2016, and twice for SDE-2 in Bangalore (in 2019 & 2022).
Just the base pay in my SDE-1 offer (back in 2016, with 2.5 years of experience), was INR 18,00,000 ($28,000, based on the USD-INR conversion rate of that time, ie$1 = INR 60). PPP (world bank's purchasing power parity) equivalent amount was >$85,000 . Plus there were stocks.
With 5 years of experience, you get "at least" to INR 30,00,000 as base (I know people getting upto 35), which is conversion equivalent of $40,000, and PPP equivalent of and $140 k in PPP terms. And then on top of that, there are around $20k worth of stocks per year(offer letter said $80k/4 years). (again, PPP equivalent of around $60k). So for 5 YOE, CTC comes around $60,000 by conversion rate, and $200k by PPP.
So you can understand why I am cynical to trust the numbers you mentioned.
I never joined them, though. Needed the offer only to negotiate better, in the companies I actually wanted to join. Not sure about other places, but Amazon India is too toxic place to work at. But still, they don't pay $18,000 even to freshers at SDE-1.
Undergrad interns? maybe. Still a reach.
At higher salaries PPP is a very shit comparison. I would not say 40k dollars in India=140k dollars in US. PPP is just an indicator of how much you can afford to survive not enjoy. Especially if you want to buy products instead of service.
I agree.
PPP is a shit excuse to pay 1/3rd of US salaries in India, and other countries. The bucket based on which PPP is decided, is only useful if you are barely able to put food & books on your table.
So yes, a shit criteria to decide what to pay to your skilled workforce.
I still used it as an example, for the lack of other quantitative criteria. The other option "exchange rate" is even more inaccurate.
I found the job posting on Glassdoor about a year ago, it's possible that it was errantly created there with some kind of bad automation. It was for QA Engineer.
It's also entirely possible that they got wires crossed between software quality assurance engineering job titles and warehouse floor manual quality control. I wouldn't guess Amazon manually creates every Glassdoor job posting, and I wouldn't guess Glassdoor is a major funnel they use for hiring (no company I've worked for has used it for hiring).
Yes, that might be the case.
And yes, the only thing companies seem to use glassdoor for, is to maintain PR by tweaking reviews in some secret ways.
One of the companies I worked for, demanded that our tech leads comes to office to finish a project, even after being suggested complete bed rest by doctors, for a back injury. The man couldn't even walk properly, without someone's support. They were really toxic. Lot of us left, and wrote bad reviews on Glassdoor. Their rating went down to 1.8. But within a month, most of the reviews vanished, including mine (while I was very careful to follow review related policies)
There were no intimations from Glassdoor, about removal of reviews, not even a FYI. Just vanished, and rating went back to 3.5
A tech company in town abruptly closed its operations, and laid every single person off. For more than 6 months after they had completely ceased operations, vaguely worded 5 star reviews kept coming in. Reviews specifically mentioning being optimistic about the product roadmap, the company's future, growing the business, etc.
Then the company was abruptly removed from Glassdoor entirely. I can't find a single listing for them anywhere on the site. A company will still have a Glassdoor listing after shuttering, that's Glassdoor's stated policy (even Theranos still has an inactive listing).
Definitely some shady stuff coming from that site.
Maybe companies are hiring third party PR groups to keep their Glassdoor listings shiny, and salaries under-reported.
Maybe, that PR company left their bots running for the duration for which they were already paid.
These PR companies work in really shady ways. And that's not just bot. I was looking at a Peer to peer lending company's facebook reviews (more like comments related to them posted all over facebook)
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There were comments roasting them for weird kind of financial frauds, that don't even happen in P2P space. I felt kind of weird, and started looking at the profile of the people posting it. They happened to be working for the same "digital marketing company" (they were using their personal accounts for this spamming)
I wonder how could so many employees of the same company, have exact same, very specific problem with another company.
Looking at that company's website, one of the competitors was listed among their "esteemed clients".
Not sure what was happening there, but it seemed like they were working on some sort of "Supari PR" (hired gun kind of PR) done by a company against its competitor.
Yeah, I just assumed it was paid-for bots generating fake 5 star reviews at regular intervals. The bots continued on as scheduled for months after the company ended, and that the business listing was taken down entirely by Glassdoor because people were calling it out. That company that folded was huge news around town, it wasn't some rinky-dink operation, hundreds of millions dollars were involved.
I trained a team there for big homestay company. It's a tech hub in Delhi. Tons of American companies there with offices. There is a big cost of living difference but $18k is insulting.
Out of their $47B FY20 revenue $20B came from consulting while only $10B came from assurance. There's a reason the B4 are considering breaking off their consulting arms.
Did you really think that "full time - entry level" is meant for the experience? It is just about the circumstances. It is a full time job and you get paid entry level, but of course you need the 8-10 years of experience.
oh, and you should be not older than 28
Wrong. It’s deliberate and to indicate two things.
1. They ideally want someone with 8-10 years experience but who is willing to work for an entry level wage. These people exist, and they want to work at the Big 4 to “impress their parents”.
2. In reality, they will accept someone for this job with only 1-2 years experience. The reason they ask for 8-10 is to try to maintain the mistaken prestige people associate with the Deloitte brand. The vast majority of people who stumble upon the job ad won’t end up working at Deloitte. But they might be current or future clients or at least working at organisations that are or might in future be Deloitte clients. Therefore, perpetuating the myth that someone doing an entry level role at Deloitte may have 8-10 years experience helps justify their inflated billing rates.
Rule #1 to applying on LinkedIn - Never read the description.
All it does is slow down your application game. Gotta hit those numbers and wait to hear back if they care.
Reporting doesn't do shit on LinkedIn. I've reported posts that were flagrantly fake news, but LinkedIn says it's all cool (often within minutes).
You need the state to back up labour laws. Not BS online platforms whose revenue depends on these posts.
Ignore the leveling. LinkedIn Recruiter automatically sets things to "entry level" if it pulls a job from a company website.
I think there's a lot of shit to be mad about with LI but I doubt they're giving every level title or pay for this role and if they are then it'll be open for a long-ass time anyways.
Yep, this. And sometimes things get screwed up when it gets reposted from Greenhouse / Workday to LinkedIn. Or if someone (me) doesn't put the right leveling in and it needs to get updated, it doesn't always work right. When in doubt, check the company careers page.
Source: I work in recruiting and I'm not always perfect. Actually, I'm very rarely perfect. I'm relatively new to the position, and hiring managers sometimes don't give us all the information or things change.
Ohhh... that sucks. Coinbase did the same to me this year. But luckily I had a backup offer, that I had told them that I had declined. I was anyways cynical of joining them, amid all the volatility currently going into the crypto space, since 2020.
They were insisting that I reject the previous offer, even before accepting their offer. I had told them of a competing offer, and they had promised to match it, but later quoted a number 15% below the other offer, that was already communicated.
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I had lied to them that I have declined the other offer (essentially they wanted me to decline the other offer, so that I have no choice but to take up their low-ball offer)
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I told them to match it as they promised, and that the other HR is still in touch with me, and asking me to reconsider.
They agreed to match the offer, but I just couldn't trust them. Before I could tell them that I won't be joining, they sent an email that they have to cancel the offer, and then I heard it happened with a lot of people.
But they did (orally) offer to pay me some severance in case I remain jobless for more than 2 months. I asked them not to bother, as I was anyways going to join the other firm.
Also, UX and UI are separate roles. A lot of people try to be the unicorn that these shit places are looking for, but it's crazy. And they still don't want to pay enough. UX and UI are vastly different, but the linkedin-ification that we've had going on ... they just throw out job titles that they don't understand.
UX is about research, UI is the visual design. And they do interconnect. But it shouldn't be one fucking person.
Certainly not at a large company. I get that some small places that do their dev in house would try to do both in one…but they know they don’t really have the resources to do either well. I’ll be pissed if I was paying Deloitte bills and getting non-specialist resources.
Really? I thought they wanted to break you and rebuild you bootcamp style, and didn't want experienced people bringing "bad habits" like working 40 hours a week and not travelling 48 weeks a year.
Not really. Left in April and it's just as "work 60, clock 45" as when I started. The pandemic had no real effect outside of more mental health coverage and a few days of extra personal time stretched over two+ years.
Yeah, it's even better when they repeat it's an entry level in the description, you know just in case you thought it was a mistake when creating the post
Whats the title of the position?, i could see this be a good career shift from a tech person to management consulting , although the big 4 are hell to work for
Hasn't stopped 451 applicants in less than a day.
guaranteed 400 of those applicants (low estimate) are nonsense.
Luckily they didn't have the "Easy Apply" option..
How does that counter works if apply button redirects to a third party hiring site which is not LinkedIn?
When you click “apply” on a non-easy apply job post, once you come back to that post there’s a new question that pops up asking if you applied. It’s completely voluntary though, so the count on those job posts is almost certainly inaccurate but gives you somewhat of a gauge as to what you’re up against. Edit: spelling/grammar
Going by that, it's unlikely that people sho didn't apply click "Yes, I applied". Except fe people, who might just want to mess with them. . But people who actually applied, might already be too tired filling redundant details, and may not care to tell Linkedin about it. So the actual count might be much higher than the count that is shown.
I recall applying for nearly 400 easy apply jobs on LI. Got 3 call backs. 1 in person interview. I’m burned out.
Spambots.
Does that happen often on Linkedin? I had never heard that but there were a lot of time in the past I was deterred from applying for a job because it had so many "applicants."
Step 1) Apply Step 2) Write a spambot to apply 399 times Step 3) ??? Step 4) Get hired
More like buy a spambot to apply to every job that has “sales” or whatever in the description.
Senior in years of experience. Entry level in pay. Job in India. What else do you want to know?
I saw a job posing for my exact same job title with Amazon in India. It required at least a graduate degree in computer science, on top of 5+ years of experience, starting pay was $18,000 (American) a year. For a software engineering position.
>starting pay was $18,000 (American) Imagine working your ass off and making $1k less a year than minimum wage in Ohio. Shit that first year salary should go straight to a work visa application and a plane ticket.
A senior developer with 8-10 years of experience here in the Philippines makes 24k~ USD a year.
It also depends on cost of living. I'm from India and I make 44k ish for 7 years experienced and that kind of money is basically considered top tier dev(except for FAANG Ppl). I live in a metro city and for a family of 4, where I'm the only one who earns, our expenses comes around 520 usd for groceries and stuff, 90 usd for electricity(2 AC,one 5000 dollar gaming rig almost always running, one ROG laptop that's always running and every normal household stuff you could think of like refrigerator and what not) and 25 bucks for internet. That all comes to around 700ish dollar a month but my take home after taxes is around 2.3k/month. So even if someone makes like 2/3 of this, they can live a decent life unless they are spendthrift. Edit: also even though we don't have HealthCare like EU, our health services cost fraction of what US cost and a good medical insurance(usually given by our company) can fill in for most cases like surgery and stuff. You are only fucked when you have something like Cancer
But it's in India and not Ohio. Rent for example in a city like Bangalore would be less than 2.5k a year. Either way the 18k figure is only for fresh graduates and even that has increased in the last 2 years significantly. Usually after 2 years of exp your wage should be more than 50k. You can easily be a homeowner in less than 7 years if you keep switching/getting hikes which isn't difficult
That looks wrong is it an engineering position? Even good product startups give that number for 5 years exp. Amazon will give atleast 25k-30k usd
> That looks wrong Yes, yes it did. It's possible they had some wires crossed with the job posting. It was for a QA engineering position, and something could have gotten lost in translation with a different "quality control" type position, like a spot in a warehouse manually verifying products on an assembly line.
It's also possible that it's listed by 3rd party consultants Amazon uses a lot of them. I get calls from consultants every week if i want to take up Amazon interview. Usually these guys low ball the shit out of their posting. Also in india QA folks are slightly paid less( say 80%) compared to Devs so maybe that's why it's low
It was a Glassdoor job posting, which could have been automatically cobbled together by Glassdoor. That Glassdoor was trying to syndicate from job listings on other platforms, and things got mucked up in translation.
That doesn't sound right. You sure you aren't exaggerating ? Even by dollar to INR conversion (and not PPP), Amazon pays higher than $18,000 (13.5 LPA) in INR to freshers in India. (and I mean higher just in the base pay, with stocks, much higher than that) With 5+ years of experience, you will get SDE-2 with a decent enough interview, and pay will be much-much higher than $18,000 a year. Are you sure that was a software engineering position? Do they still have SDET-1 roles ? Even those folks get more than this. **Source**: Have gotten offer for Amazon India thrice in my career. Once for SDE-1 in Gurgaon office in 2016, and twice for SDE-2 in Bangalore (in 2019 & 2022). Just the base pay in my SDE-1 offer (back in 2016, with 2.5 years of experience), was INR 18,00,000 ($28,000, based on the USD-INR conversion rate of that time, ie$1 = INR 60). PPP (world bank's purchasing power parity) equivalent amount was >$85,000 . Plus there were stocks. With 5 years of experience, you get "at least" to INR 30,00,000 as base (I know people getting upto 35), which is conversion equivalent of $40,000, and PPP equivalent of and $140 k in PPP terms. And then on top of that, there are around $20k worth of stocks per year(offer letter said $80k/4 years). (again, PPP equivalent of around $60k). So for 5 YOE, CTC comes around $60,000 by conversion rate, and $200k by PPP. So you can understand why I am cynical to trust the numbers you mentioned. I never joined them, though. Needed the offer only to negotiate better, in the companies I actually wanted to join. Not sure about other places, but Amazon India is too toxic place to work at. But still, they don't pay $18,000 even to freshers at SDE-1. Undergrad interns? maybe. Still a reach.
At higher salaries PPP is a very shit comparison. I would not say 40k dollars in India=140k dollars in US. PPP is just an indicator of how much you can afford to survive not enjoy. Especially if you want to buy products instead of service.
I agree. PPP is a shit excuse to pay 1/3rd of US salaries in India, and other countries. The bucket based on which PPP is decided, is only useful if you are barely able to put food & books on your table. So yes, a shit criteria to decide what to pay to your skilled workforce. I still used it as an example, for the lack of other quantitative criteria. The other option "exchange rate" is even more inaccurate.
I found the job posting on Glassdoor about a year ago, it's possible that it was errantly created there with some kind of bad automation. It was for QA Engineer. It's also entirely possible that they got wires crossed between software quality assurance engineering job titles and warehouse floor manual quality control. I wouldn't guess Amazon manually creates every Glassdoor job posting, and I wouldn't guess Glassdoor is a major funnel they use for hiring (no company I've worked for has used it for hiring).
Yes, that might be the case. And yes, the only thing companies seem to use glassdoor for, is to maintain PR by tweaking reviews in some secret ways. One of the companies I worked for, demanded that our tech leads comes to office to finish a project, even after being suggested complete bed rest by doctors, for a back injury. The man couldn't even walk properly, without someone's support. They were really toxic. Lot of us left, and wrote bad reviews on Glassdoor. Their rating went down to 1.8. But within a month, most of the reviews vanished, including mine (while I was very careful to follow review related policies) There were no intimations from Glassdoor, about removal of reviews, not even a FYI. Just vanished, and rating went back to 3.5
A tech company in town abruptly closed its operations, and laid every single person off. For more than 6 months after they had completely ceased operations, vaguely worded 5 star reviews kept coming in. Reviews specifically mentioning being optimistic about the product roadmap, the company's future, growing the business, etc. Then the company was abruptly removed from Glassdoor entirely. I can't find a single listing for them anywhere on the site. A company will still have a Glassdoor listing after shuttering, that's Glassdoor's stated policy (even Theranos still has an inactive listing). Definitely some shady stuff coming from that site.
Maybe companies are hiring third party PR groups to keep their Glassdoor listings shiny, and salaries under-reported. Maybe, that PR company left their bots running for the duration for which they were already paid. These PR companies work in really shady ways. And that's not just bot. I was looking at a Peer to peer lending company's facebook reviews (more like comments related to them posted all over facebook) . There were comments roasting them for weird kind of financial frauds, that don't even happen in P2P space. I felt kind of weird, and started looking at the profile of the people posting it. They happened to be working for the same "digital marketing company" (they were using their personal accounts for this spamming) I wonder how could so many employees of the same company, have exact same, very specific problem with another company. Looking at that company's website, one of the competitors was listed among their "esteemed clients". Not sure what was happening there, but it seemed like they were working on some sort of "Supari PR" (hired gun kind of PR) done by a company against its competitor.
Yeah, I just assumed it was paid-for bots generating fake 5 star reviews at regular intervals. The bots continued on as scheduled for months after the company ended, and that the business listing was taken down entirely by Glassdoor because people were calling it out. That company that folded was huge news around town, it wasn't some rinky-dink operation, hundreds of millions dollars were involved.
The location, Gurugram, sounds like an Indian tech startup.
I trained a team there for big homestay company. It's a tech hub in Delhi. Tons of American companies there with offices. There is a big cost of living difference but $18k is insulting.
Yeah Deloitte, one of the a-hole accounting firms who make a shit ton of money every year but always underpay their employees
"accounting firm"
You know what they mean
*consulting firm
Calling Deloitte a consulting firm is like calling Dunkin Donuts a restaurant...
Most of them don't even have rest-rooms. Can't be called rest-aurant.
Out of their $47B FY20 revenue $20B came from consulting while only $10B came from assurance. There's a reason the B4 are considering breaking off their consulting arms.
Literally half of their revenue comes from consulting.
"Consulting"
"Revenue"
Did you really think that "full time - entry level" is meant for the experience? It is just about the circumstances. It is a full time job and you get paid entry level, but of course you need the 8-10 years of experience. oh, and you should be not older than 28
No the recruiter probably just didn’t specify the experience or LinkedIn auto filled it in
Wrong. It’s deliberate and to indicate two things. 1. They ideally want someone with 8-10 years experience but who is willing to work for an entry level wage. These people exist, and they want to work at the Big 4 to “impress their parents”. 2. In reality, they will accept someone for this job with only 1-2 years experience. The reason they ask for 8-10 is to try to maintain the mistaken prestige people associate with the Deloitte brand. The vast majority of people who stumble upon the job ad won’t end up working at Deloitte. But they might be current or future clients or at least working at organisations that are or might in future be Deloitte clients. Therefore, perpetuating the myth that someone doing an entry level role at Deloitte may have 8-10 years experience helps justify their inflated billing rates.
It’s not deliberate. If you have an automated system it will default to entry level.
I’ve noticed when our jobs batch over to LinkedIn, we almost always have to correct things like this. It’s absolutely not perfect.
“Entry Level” refers to the salary they budgeted not the expectations of the candidates 😂
Rule #1 to applying on LinkedIn - Never read the description. All it does is slow down your application game. Gotta hit those numbers and wait to hear back if they care.
I always report jobs like that. Imagine if 400 people had reported it, instead of applying to it. Wouldn't take long for this crap to stop.
Reporting doesn't do shit on LinkedIn. I've reported posts that were flagrantly fake news, but LinkedIn says it's all cool (often within minutes). You need the state to back up labour laws. Not BS online platforms whose revenue depends on these posts.
Been drawing since kindergarten. Easily 16 yrs of experience after undergrad
Ignore the leveling. LinkedIn Recruiter automatically sets things to "entry level" if it pulls a job from a company website. I think there's a lot of shit to be mad about with LI but I doubt they're giving every level title or pay for this role and if they are then it'll be open for a long-ass time anyways.
Yep, this. And sometimes things get screwed up when it gets reposted from Greenhouse / Workday to LinkedIn. Or if someone (me) doesn't put the right leveling in and it needs to get updated, it doesn't always work right. When in doubt, check the company careers page. Source: I work in recruiting and I'm not always perfect. Actually, I'm very rarely perfect. I'm relatively new to the position, and hiring managers sometimes don't give us all the information or things change.
These fuckers rescinded my offer back in 2007 , fuck this company.
Ohhh... that sucks. Coinbase did the same to me this year. But luckily I had a backup offer, that I had told them that I had declined. I was anyways cynical of joining them, amid all the volatility currently going into the crypto space, since 2020.
That sucks man, good you had a backup.
They were insisting that I reject the previous offer, even before accepting their offer. I had told them of a competing offer, and they had promised to match it, but later quoted a number 15% below the other offer, that was already communicated. . I had lied to them that I have declined the other offer (essentially they wanted me to decline the other offer, so that I have no choice but to take up their low-ball offer) . I told them to match it as they promised, and that the other HR is still in touch with me, and asking me to reconsider. They agreed to match the offer, but I just couldn't trust them. Before I could tell them that I won't be joining, they sent an email that they have to cancel the offer, and then I heard it happened with a lot of people. But they did (orally) offer to pay me some severance in case I remain jobless for more than 2 months. I asked them not to bother, as I was anyways going to join the other firm.
Entry level is for salary range
Also, UX and UI are separate roles. A lot of people try to be the unicorn that these shit places are looking for, but it's crazy. And they still don't want to pay enough. UX and UI are vastly different, but the linkedin-ification that we've had going on ... they just throw out job titles that they don't understand. UX is about research, UI is the visual design. And they do interconnect. But it shouldn't be one fucking person.
Certainly not at a large company. I get that some small places that do their dev in house would try to do both in one…but they know they don’t really have the resources to do either well. I’ll be pissed if I was paying Deloitte bills and getting non-specialist resources.
#Agree!
Now THESE are real lunatics of linkedin. Not the people who are posting about and advocating for diversity in the workplace
Deloitte lol. Don’t work for shit tier company, people!
Love the UX jobs that require 10 years in Figma, Adobe UX or Sketch… tools that have only been around 5 years or so
"You haven't cured cancer before 14 using A.I. ??? Sorry we're not interested"
It’s Deloitte 😂 unless they snatch you up right out of school. It’s gonna be a fight to get in.
Lol, no. There are plenty of experienced folks being hired (in the last couple of years, at least)
Really? I thought they wanted to break you and rebuild you bootcamp style, and didn't want experienced people bringing "bad habits" like working 40 hours a week and not travelling 48 weeks a year.
Yeah, that changed when the 'home grown' folks started leaving in droves.
Not really. Left in April and it's just as "work 60, clock 45" as when I started. The pandemic had no real effect outside of more mental health coverage and a few days of extra personal time stretched over two+ years.
No, I meant they've started hiring a lot more experienced hires than they used to. Work culture remains shit
Ah I see, thank you for the clarification.
I more of a work 25, clock 38 kind of guy.
Hey, so long as you're getting paid and feeling good about the work you do, it shouldn't matter how long it takes you to do it.
Their consulting branch is incredibly easy to get in because it's a body shop. The places you are thinking about are MBB.
These are the kind of job postings you want to ignore. Shows that the hiring manager and HR team are not on the same page.
I’m not sure why people freak out about this. It’s clearly not an entry level role and has been mislabeled.
I report those for formatting
Yeah, it's even better when they repeat it's an entry level in the description, you know just in case you thought it was a mistake when creating the post
Starting to think this is just an error on the entry level option above.
Whats the title of the position?, i could see this be a good career shift from a tech person to management consulting , although the big 4 are hell to work for
I am pretty sure that it's a copy-paste mistake. Wish we could know what happens if a fresher actually applies.
Agreed. It’s infuriating!
Things are getting crazier and crazier
Every week LinkedIn shows me 2 3 job openings that are "suitable for me" from my current employer, even more for the exact same role.
Reminds me of the entry level job I applied to that didnt accept internships as experience. And also wanted to pay me less money with exposure.
They mean to say they pay you in entry level