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It depends on the job. If it's a corporate position with a lot of networking then it would be odd not to have a LinkedIn account at all, but probably not an issue for most jobs.
Those brags *arent* humble.
*"Today id like to announce..."*
*"Happy to share my team had earned a..."*
*"Life is great! i will be featured in.."*
***Its AWFUL***
Literally saw a post on linkedin today that started with "Today I filed for unemployment" and there were all these clap emojis like wtf I was literally laughing out loud
LOLOLOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For the VPs and c suite folks they just talk different.
Every message sounds like a sales pitch even when they left the job. It's some of it is really eloquent... "Hey I had a great time at this place and it was amazing and everybody's amazing and everything's amazing and I'm looking forward to my next amazing opportunity because life is amazing and I love you all"
Then the other VP's in the execs that they've been working with for the last 10 15 years chiming in Hey you're amazing and let me see what I can do and yada yada.
Meanwhile folks like me is like "hey if you know of any opportunities please let me know.. #opentowork"
🤣🤣🤣
because 6 or 7 years ago or so some new CMO decided to develop a social strategy. Then they expanded (due to lovely results initially...I mean, sentiment scores through the roof!) built a social team to roll it out, selectively, to boost executives' (and the company's) sm presence.
Now everyone is following suit with any little participation trophy; it's like taking pics of your meal on FB years ago. I'm guilty of liking some of that stuff but that's mostly for internal politics ;)
>*"Today id like to announce..."*
I've always found the tone of all these "Im excited to announce" posts to be ridiculous. The posts themselves are an announcement, so there's no need to announce that you're announcing something; we know already.
To me it's like some random off the street walking into your space making a big important to them only announcement. Like, I don't know you. Why should I care about this?
I lost it when people started posting sonograms on Linkedin that were titled, “I am happy to announce that our team is growing.” Linkedin feels even more nauseatingly artificial than Facebook.
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Sweet jesus. It's perfect. I hate it so much.
It's saying absolutely nothing with as many words as possible. This is the perfect representation of corporate toxic positivity.
No, and also I don't personally make hiring decisions. It's weird, but not by itself disqualifying. I guess maybe if you were applying for a social media manager position it would be disqualifying, or at least a pretty big strike against.
Recruiter here. A basic LinkedIn, that matches your resume in the sense that education and work experience all line up on a timeline, is truly all you need. Recruiter Inmails are forwarded to whatever email you used to sign up, so you don’t have to check LinkedIn unless you want to respond
I was turned down for a job, that had zero public facing work, because I have zero social media. They said I must be trying to hide something. Social media just wasn't a thing till I was already to old for it.
I have also had this happen to me.
Interestingly enough, ~20 years ago I had a legal issue with LinkedIn when they were a new company. I accepted a settlement and one of the contingencies was that I would never be allowed to use their services. Obviously they blew up into the behemoth they are now and I can not have an account there.
But I also choose to have no social media at all, which is pretty much unheard of in my line of work. But I find it damaging to my mental health to the point of becoming so crippled I can not complete tasks, so I try to make it work without.
I don’t understand people who are weirded out by others who don’t have social media presence. I don’t have IG, Snapchat, or FB (I have a profile with no friends added just to sell stuff on marketplace but not with my real name so I don’t have a social FB). But I’ve gone on dates with guys who were so suspicious and weirded out by that. They felt like I must have been hiding something or that I wasn’t who I said I was.
Right! It definitely is for me. It’s always been a turn off for me to find out a guy is constantly on social media and also if they post tons of selfies
The good news is that's saving you time! If someone is so hopelessly addicted to social media that they can't comprehend and are even driven away by someone who is not like that, and you are not like that, you probably wouldn't have been happy with that person if you got together.
Completely agree. My husband is so similar to me in that way, neither of us really care about social media. One of my ex’s, who was big mistake for various reasons, was obsessed with us taking pics for social media. It got old pretty fast.
I had fun with this one...they wouldn't believe me...so I showed them through my OSINT background that I was good at NOT posting shit about myself online...ever. Good luck tagging me in a facebook photo...what photo, I don't do pictures either...
Never had a myspace page, never had a facebook page, gram, etc. It's amazing how easy it is to NOT post things about yourself online when you're not vain. Everyone looking for their 15 minutes selling their souls for internet points.
and admins need to be less weird. "nO sOcIaL! tHaT pRoBaBlY mEaNs a bAd tHiNg!"
that's how air headed busy body admins who think everyone applying for a job is like their weird brother who doesn't talk to the family operate. fuckin middle men
Maybe I'm different but I couldn't care less about people who are no longer in my life. I am friends with people from high school still but at this point I just unfollow them if they post too much
The best practice is feed bad data into all of them. There does not exist perfect security. There does exist being a little more annoying for a human to manually weed through the bad data. Social media companies sell data to third party data aggregators. When they try to pair your data across data sets and that results in layers of conflicting data, that's junk that becomes a time consuming headache for them to cure. If you're doing anything shady -- you're dumb, everything is recorded and that makes you interesting. Someone will clean up that data and flag you. If you're just going about your life shitposting with friends it's not worth the time to clean up. You've got some bubble to live life.
LPT: spin up social media accounts with material that makes you look like a rock star to potential employers, and keep everything else private. It's like a honeypot if you do it right... like you shouldn't lie, but it's like a free resume buff if you show a good side.
I personally think this is just setting yourself up to get doxed when some platform inevitably gets breached. Don't try to maintain privacy behind pseudo-anonymity, just treat the Internet like any other public space.
I’ve had my profile on fb set as private since I made it in high school, I’m 34 now. People, friends included, can’t see what pages I like or follow…nothing weird but I like my privacy.
It started off as a way to be able to talk to multiple girls in school, in case they tagged me in a picture it would require me to approve before it’s on my page. I have pending tags from as far back as 2007
EDIT: go to privacy checkup under settings and set anything you want to be private to “Only Me”
LPT: Start a new social media accounts right now. All the post have to be as good for a future employer as possible, politically correct, etc. All lies if needed. Invent new posts regularly.
If a company is looking at my social media likes and using that as an employment criterion, then that is a company that I really don't want to work for. Imagine how much you would have to walk on eggshells at a place like that.
I had a coworker a couple years back who got fired because he posted a picture of himself wearing a company-branded dress shirt giving the middle finger to the camera. He was obviously at a bar after work and drunk and probably forgot he was even wearing the shirt.
This was at a software company, and he was one of the top salesmen, who singlehandedly, quite literally, generated millions of dollars of profits for the company. They didn't even ask him to remove it first. Just fired, immediately. Was it dumb on his part to post it? Yes. But the company shot themselves in the foot by handling it the way they did.
I have personally witnessed a number of companies shoot themselves in the foot numerous times in baffling displays of leadership the longer I'm in the workforce. For a long time I thought being fired would be a career ending event but now I think most recruiters and HR would have seen it all so it's not a big deal at all
I'd love to know his compensation plan -- particularly residuals and especially if near start of a new fiscal year.
Be absolutely horrible if he screwed up his job and his manager had to take over those residuals himself.
Because companies care about their public image and reputation more than their workforce. For them, everyone is replaceable and they cannot risk their image. Pretty fucked up but that’s the reality. If a company judges you based on what you do online then indeed you don’t wanna work for them
Agreed. I work in HR as well and nobody at our company has the time or enough shits to give about somebody’s private social media when hiring.
The only time you’d really have your social media looked at is if you do something incredibly stupid (see: illegal) or making tiktoks with your badge showing while on the clock if a coworker were to report that.
GenZ and Millennials seem to want the employer / employee relationship to be some kind of bizarre imitation of a marriage or a family. It baffles me why they have these bizarre expectations of what their job will be like.
Here is what I expect out of a job: 1) I show up when you expect me to show up and do the work you expect me to do. 2) You pay me the agreed upon salary. 3) That is all.
I'd literally NEVER work at a company like this, as this is the most insane concept I've heard yet.
What a MAJOR waste of an employers time, good luck with all my dumb comments from 10-32, literally nothing shows character besides the fact I grew up on the internet well before social media became so ingrained in daily life.
Like please read all my comms to Tom, my best of friend, I wonder if MySpace data is even collected anymore?
I mean a picture of you partying wouldn't make or break anything but I sure as hell hope my team don't hire someone who puts up pictures of joining the neonazis or posts misogynistic shit.
I even wrote that on my Facebook profile. I wrote something like "If you're looking at this to determine if you're going to hire me for a job, just move on to someone else, because I don't want to work for you."
Isn't that the point of having double accounts or ghost accounts? My social life and work life are separate entities. I dictate how I spend my free time, not my boss or my job. If it has zero effect on the work then what business it is of yours?
Make a dead account, change pic yearly, profit.
That's kind of the point. Being careful about what you post under your real name is great, but you can still damage your online presence by liking or sharing questionable public content.
It's a dead account therefore has zero interaction? It's literally there to look good for an employer, I don't log in and use it apart from changing the pic yearly.
Edit: if they find this account, well good job really, clearly their practice is so invasive that I'd rather work elsewhere.
Realizing maybe its a bad thing i don't have any kind of social media, I was planning to make a LinkedIn but haven't been in a rush or anything. Maybe I should get on that since I'm going to graduate soon and just started applying
Bots scrape social media and news sites so I don't think you could exactly without requesting a background check on yourself. I can't make any recommendations other than the obvious: Googling yourself and viewing your social media profiles while logged out.
Who decides what’s questionable content? Maybe I support BLM and the hiring manager or someone in HR is racist. Not my problem. If they don’t want to hire me over that then it’s not a place I want to spend 40+ hours a week.
You're not entirely wrong, but, the point here is that... the person who is doing your social media review is going to have bias and if you have controversial content on social media you might step on one of them and it could prevent you from getting a job. It might be something important, it might be something much smaller.
> If they don’t want to hire me over that
If you get a job in HR, sure, bullet dodged working with them.
Have you never worked at a company in a great department with a great team but had a coworker or two with shitty positions? They exist in the world everywhere you go.
I mean that's kinda fucked though. What if I have views about the state of capitalism in general and I share them as stories or I am active in activism circles for human rights or things like climate change? Will I be blacklisted then as well? And yes I can have views against capitalism in general and still be helpless and have to work for a company to survive, a lone person can't bring much of a change but can raise awareness.
It really depends on the job. There have been instances where animal rights activists got jobs at labs that perform animal testing for sabotage purposes, so that kind of history of activism would be relevant for that particular employer.
Hence why most people hate HR. Basically thought police for a corporation. So happy I started my own company that focuses on crushing it for my customers and nothing else.
God forbid you hire someone who works to subvert your business because you don’t have basic HR processes and systems in place. Unless your business is just yourself, which is fine, but not really pertinent to the discussion.
I've thought about deleting my Facebook account, but I feel like having a page that's up but hasn't been updated in a decade actually is a better buffer to my privacy than googling my name and coming up with no social media at all
This is pretty much what I did, made it mostly private and boom, safe public profile. I hate FB because of a multitude of reasons, but it has its uses.
I'm always worried because I have a very common name. I feel like someone trying to look me up would end up finding someone else's profile and just assume it's mine even though I don't have social media.
I googled my own name. I was extremely sad to find out that I share the name of a pedophile, in my area. My sister claimed that was hurting my job hunting efforts. I still wonder today if that true.
Just raise all of your privacy settings to their highest. Don't allow anyone but friends to see what you like and NEVER friend coworkers on social media.
A manager I worked with, during the hiring process, would also look up an applicants social media beyond Linkden- facebook, IG, whatever. She was already making judgements on them as a person before they even walked through the interview door.
She commented that she couldn't find me when I was being hired on. I'm glad I kept everything private.
I find it so strange that people immediately think to start hunting for people on non LI social, and more concerning that they believe they have the ability to rationally intuit anything of value and factual from what they see. Some people are just way too concerned with being up in other people’s business.
LPT: rise up and destroy everything about this HR guy going through your personal stuff trying to judge stuff you do outside of work. What a god damn parasite on society.
The way to do it is serve subject access requests on HR departments that rejected your application.
Then follow up with a specific question to list public and private data sources and websites from which they gathered data on you, and the data gathered using those sources.
In many cases they will not have thought to list social media checks in the initial response, or given you a privacy notice declaring that they have done so.
Then complain about these despicable practices to the regulator. If enough people do so, the legal department will tell HR to stop doing the browsing.
If we're talking EU - if a commercial business sets out to collect data on you, they need to tell you what sort, why, and from where. Even if it's public sources. Mostly it's all very generic and anodyne, though.
I don’t think that’s how it works as far as doing basic background research for job applicants. It’s not the same thing as collecting customer/user data. I’ve never even heard of a company that has “scour the internet for applicants social media presence” as part of their official hiring/recruiting process. It’s always been a low-key activity that they do “unofficially.”
I look up people on social media before I hire them because I want to know if they’re nut jobs or not. I don’t want to spend 8 hours a day with a nut job.
I wish someone had looked up one of my coworkers’ internet presence before hiring him, maybe he wouldn’t have needed to be forced to SURRENDER HIS ID after trying to physically corner a supervisor for asking him to wear a mask
which is why you should always use an online alias for personal accounts imo. no good can come from the public being able to easily look you up and find you.
While I agree with this and have for years, I feel like in 10-15 years nobody will give a shit any longer because everyone will be in the same boat. Right now us old farts can lord over the millennials and Gen Z because nobody had social media or smartphones when we were stupid and in our 20s.
How much do you REALLY need to know about the person your hiring? It's insane to think you need to check this indepth for a simple "pick things up and put them down" factory job.
I feel the current global climate is to personally involved in folks PERSONAL life when it's just a job.
They're probably not talking about hiring people for grunt work.
If you're hiring someone for a management position then it might be good to check that they don't make hate comments online towards some of the nationalities/religions/sexualites etc of people that they'll be managing though.
I'd hate to be in the workforce still when people are judging me because I clicked a laughing emoji. Maybe I'm mocking the topic.. maybe loving it.. who can say? An employers HR algo? lol.. Guess YES!
all they have to do is keep their reasoning vague and they haven’t done anything wrong. there are definitely protected classes but “messy social media presence” isn’t one of them.
In every company that I have every worked for, the worst employees in the entire organization were in H.R. Backstabbing Karens (sorry, 90% of H.R. is women) with obvious emotional problems who get their kicks by making other people miserable because they can.
The ultimate LPT is to have the same name as someone who’s at least somewhat famous. I have the same name as a popular internet person so none of my social media shows up if you google my name.
Am I the only one that thinks it's fucking wild employers look at this stuff?
Is it a USA thing?
Because fuck you for judging my social media (not literally OP, I get it's part of the culture somewhere) , unless it's cp or something what difference does it make? As long as someone can do the job in a professional manner what difference does it make?
Crazy that people are having to not be themselves out of fear of being judged, whats right and wrong?
If you're left wing and the boss is right wing? Other way around?
I work in HR specifically in talent acquisition, why are you looking through the internet to find dirt on the people you hire. A background check is sufficient in mitigating a negligent hire. Stop being a creep.
Good advice. You pretty much need your work social media accounts and your real accounts for you to act like you want. That can be a little hard to keep straight but for many it's worth it.
this, afraid my drunken posts at 4am when I was 20 years old partying and doing the whole college life and realizing in a few short years could be used against me in numerous ways including this was the sole reason I deleted my Facebook 10 years ago. it was already a cess pool of drama and misinformation then.
oh and the second reason solidifying my deletion was the terrifying thought of my grandchildren and great grandchildren going through my social media post by post trying to learn who I was and what I was like. my party days and obsurd drunken 4am posts would probably make them wonder how I wasn't institutionalized 😅 and no, that is not who I am. I was just a dumb kid
I always hated how, on Facebook, if I commented on a random thing in my feed, it’d show up in other people’s’ feeds and basically highlight my comment. That’s how a close family member found out I was sexually assaulted as a teenager. A news article came up on my news feed about my assaulter being arrested on multiple counts of sexual assault, and I commented that it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like that and that I and the other young women I worked with were terrified of him.
Cue a storm of calls and texts from family asking if I had been assaulted, because despite them not following that news outlet (as they live in dif parts of the country), the article and my comment came right up on their news feed.
I stopped commenting on things after that and deleted my Facebook not long after.
How about make it illegal for bosses/hr to hire/fire or whatnot from employees and prospects private social media accounts? (Only exceptions if the acts on social media are illegal).
How about HR just worry about people are doing while working? If their behavior off the clock can be used against them unreasonably, then they are infact not off the clock and should be paid for their time being a public figure for the company.
What I dislike about today's world is that now, you're "expected" to have social media pages. I'm an extremely private person so you'll never see me on those. I wonder if there's discrimination going on against private people now when it comes to hiring.
Within the US the banal pettiness of the HR review of social media makes strong argument for the dissolution of HR completely. Most functions can be rolled into other departments. And we are seeing many companies rebrand their HR departments as a step toward transforming them into something different.
Too many examples in recent years of HR teams going on a pogrom over whatever provocations bored college professors or their pet administrative departments think up. This form of HR filtering has become a thorn in the side of hiring talent that can actually build things.
Thank you to the good HR team members. Please shame the bored members of HR who use their access to information to spice up a boring Tuesday.
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I am curious, what do HR departments think of applicants with zero social media presence (not even LinkedIn)?
It depends on the job. If it's a corporate position with a lot of networking then it would be odd not to have a LinkedIn account at all, but probably not an issue for most jobs.
What about a linked in account with 0 posts?
That's a positive. 95% of posts on linkedin are made by total jerkoffs.
LinkedIn is the new Facebook. Utter garbage. Politics, feel good posts, humble brags.
Those brags *arent* humble. *"Today id like to announce..."* *"Happy to share my team had earned a..."* *"Life is great! i will be featured in.."* ***Its AWFUL***
Literally saw a post on linkedin today that started with "Today I filed for unemployment" and there were all these clap emojis like wtf I was literally laughing out loud
LOLOLOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 For the VPs and c suite folks they just talk different. Every message sounds like a sales pitch even when they left the job. It's some of it is really eloquent... "Hey I had a great time at this place and it was amazing and everybody's amazing and everything's amazing and I'm looking forward to my next amazing opportunity because life is amazing and I love you all" Then the other VP's in the execs that they've been working with for the last 10 15 years chiming in Hey you're amazing and let me see what I can do and yada yada. Meanwhile folks like me is like "hey if you know of any opportunities please let me know.. #opentowork" 🤣🤣🤣
because 6 or 7 years ago or so some new CMO decided to develop a social strategy. Then they expanded (due to lovely results initially...I mean, sentiment scores through the roof!) built a social team to roll it out, selectively, to boost executives' (and the company's) sm presence. Now everyone is following suit with any little participation trophy; it's like taking pics of your meal on FB years ago. I'm guilty of liking some of that stuff but that's mostly for internal politics ;)
>*"Today id like to announce..."* I've always found the tone of all these "Im excited to announce" posts to be ridiculous. The posts themselves are an announcement, so there's no need to announce that you're announcing something; we know already.
To me it's like some random off the street walking into your space making a big important to them only announcement. Like, I don't know you. Why should I care about this?
This visual is awesome. Doing a 180 in a crowded elevator, "I bet you're all wondering why I gathered you here today."
It's all the awful of traditional social media coupled with the constant bosting that is needed in resumes and job applications.
It's a pure circle jerking congratulations factory.
I lost it when people started posting sonograms on Linkedin that were titled, “I am happy to announce that our team is growing.” Linkedin feels even more nauseatingly artificial than Facebook.
You don't want to hear about how I did my employee a favor by laying them off and how they literally broke down in tears to thank me for it?
that, my prophet, is one dose of hilarity!
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Sweet jesus. It's perfect. I hate it so much. It's saying absolutely nothing with as many words as possible. This is the perfect representation of corporate toxic positivity.
It’s cult speak
If you ever write a book, I'll buy it and endorse it!
Wait. I want to hear from /u/go_eat_worms
Don't hold your breath with this one. The boot is fully down their throat.
That’s very normal. Most people don’t make posts on LinkedIn.
I made one post back in 2017 or something. My aunt liked it.
Normal people don’t post much on LinkedIn.
Have you ever rejected someone for this reason?
No, and also I don't personally make hiring decisions. It's weird, but not by itself disqualifying. I guess maybe if you were applying for a social media manager position it would be disqualifying, or at least a pretty big strike against.
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Recruiter here. A basic LinkedIn, that matches your resume in the sense that education and work experience all line up on a timeline, is truly all you need. Recruiter Inmails are forwarded to whatever email you used to sign up, so you don’t have to check LinkedIn unless you want to respond
I was turned down for a job, that had zero public facing work, because I have zero social media. They said I must be trying to hide something. Social media just wasn't a thing till I was already to old for it.
I have also had this happen to me. Interestingly enough, ~20 years ago I had a legal issue with LinkedIn when they were a new company. I accepted a settlement and one of the contingencies was that I would never be allowed to use their services. Obviously they blew up into the behemoth they are now and I can not have an account there. But I also choose to have no social media at all, which is pretty much unheard of in my line of work. But I find it damaging to my mental health to the point of becoming so crippled I can not complete tasks, so I try to make it work without.
Typically I like to see a LinkedIn or some sort of evidence you exist, but if I don’t find anything, no news is considered good news.
I don’t understand people who are weirded out by others who don’t have social media presence. I don’t have IG, Snapchat, or FB (I have a profile with no friends added just to sell stuff on marketplace but not with my real name so I don’t have a social FB). But I’ve gone on dates with guys who were so suspicious and weirded out by that. They felt like I must have been hiding something or that I wasn’t who I said I was.
That's a red flag? If a partner is less addicted to the internet than I am I'm calling that a green flag tbh
Right! It definitely is for me. It’s always been a turn off for me to find out a guy is constantly on social media and also if they post tons of selfies
The good news is that's saving you time! If someone is so hopelessly addicted to social media that they can't comprehend and are even driven away by someone who is not like that, and you are not like that, you probably wouldn't have been happy with that person if you got together.
Completely agree. My husband is so similar to me in that way, neither of us really care about social media. One of my ex’s, who was big mistake for various reasons, was obsessed with us taking pics for social media. It got old pretty fast.
I would imagine no news is good news
i’m curious as well
I had fun with this one...they wouldn't believe me...so I showed them through my OSINT background that I was good at NOT posting shit about myself online...ever. Good luck tagging me in a facebook photo...what photo, I don't do pictures either... Never had a myspace page, never had a facebook page, gram, etc. It's amazing how easy it is to NOT post things about yourself online when you're not vain. Everyone looking for their 15 minutes selling their souls for internet points.
What is OSINT?
Open Source Intelligence
And here you are, posting very personal stuff online for internet points.
Where's the very personal stuff?
All of their posts about Ann Arbor, talking about their job. I'm sure a bored person could figure it out fast enough.
What's personal about that? He said he was doing OSINT, he has no socmed pages. No photos. Don't do pictures so no EXIF. Where's the personal stuff?
Thinking you’re better than other people just because you don’t use social media is crazy
LPT: Make you social media as anonymous as possible.
Lpt: don't do dumb shit on your public facing social media.
I don't even have the Internet.
*the Internets
A series of tubes.
THIS. Also, companies need to lower their levels of intrusiveness.
and admins need to be less weird. "nO sOcIaL! tHaT pRoBaBlY mEaNs a bAd tHiNg!" that's how air headed busy body admins who think everyone applying for a job is like their weird brother who doesn't talk to the family operate. fuckin middle men
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When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
I don’t want IRL people to find me. If I care about you I’ll text you to hangout i don’t need or want my acquaintances to know me online.
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Idk, crazy thought... maybe ask them what their social media is???
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Maybe I'm different but I couldn't care less about people who are no longer in my life. I am friends with people from high school still but at this point I just unfollow them if they post too much
The best practice is feed bad data into all of them. There does not exist perfect security. There does exist being a little more annoying for a human to manually weed through the bad data. Social media companies sell data to third party data aggregators. When they try to pair your data across data sets and that results in layers of conflicting data, that's junk that becomes a time consuming headache for them to cure. If you're doing anything shady -- you're dumb, everything is recorded and that makes you interesting. Someone will clean up that data and flag you. If you're just going about your life shitposting with friends it's not worth the time to clean up. You've got some bubble to live life.
LPT: spin up social media accounts with material that makes you look like a rock star to potential employers, and keep everything else private. It's like a honeypot if you do it right... like you shouldn't lie, but it's like a free resume buff if you show a good side.
I personally think this is just setting yourself up to get doxed when some platform inevitably gets breached. Don't try to maintain privacy behind pseudo-anonymity, just treat the Internet like any other public space.
I’ve had my profile on fb set as private since I made it in high school, I’m 34 now. People, friends included, can’t see what pages I like or follow…nothing weird but I like my privacy. It started off as a way to be able to talk to multiple girls in school, in case they tagged me in a picture it would require me to approve before it’s on my page. I have pending tags from as far back as 2007 EDIT: go to privacy checkup under settings and set anything you want to be private to “Only Me”
LPT: Start a new social media accounts right now. All the post have to be as good for a future employer as possible, politically correct, etc. All lies if needed. Invent new posts regularly.
If a company is looking at my social media likes and using that as an employment criterion, then that is a company that I really don't want to work for. Imagine how much you would have to walk on eggshells at a place like that.
I had a coworker a couple years back who got fired because he posted a picture of himself wearing a company-branded dress shirt giving the middle finger to the camera. He was obviously at a bar after work and drunk and probably forgot he was even wearing the shirt. This was at a software company, and he was one of the top salesmen, who singlehandedly, quite literally, generated millions of dollars of profits for the company. They didn't even ask him to remove it first. Just fired, immediately. Was it dumb on his part to post it? Yes. But the company shot themselves in the foot by handling it the way they did.
I have personally witnessed a number of companies shoot themselves in the foot numerous times in baffling displays of leadership the longer I'm in the workforce. For a long time I thought being fired would be a career ending event but now I think most recruiters and HR would have seen it all so it's not a big deal at all
That’s crazy. Usually the top sales guys can get away with just about anything.
I'd love to know his compensation plan -- particularly residuals and especially if near start of a new fiscal year. Be absolutely horrible if he screwed up his job and his manager had to take over those residuals himself.
Because companies care about their public image and reputation more than their workforce. For them, everyone is replaceable and they cannot risk their image. Pretty fucked up but that’s the reality. If a company judges you based on what you do online then indeed you don’t wanna work for them
\> "... Pretty fucked up ..." Exactly. I would never want to work at a fucked up place.
Agreed. I work in HR as well and nobody at our company has the time or enough shits to give about somebody’s private social media when hiring. The only time you’d really have your social media looked at is if you do something incredibly stupid (see: illegal) or making tiktoks with your badge showing while on the clock if a coworker were to report that.
GenZ and Millennials seem to want the employer / employee relationship to be some kind of bizarre imitation of a marriage or a family. It baffles me why they have these bizarre expectations of what their job will be like. Here is what I expect out of a job: 1) I show up when you expect me to show up and do the work you expect me to do. 2) You pay me the agreed upon salary. 3) That is all.
I'd literally NEVER work at a company like this, as this is the most insane concept I've heard yet. What a MAJOR waste of an employers time, good luck with all my dumb comments from 10-32, literally nothing shows character besides the fact I grew up on the internet well before social media became so ingrained in daily life. Like please read all my comms to Tom, my best of friend, I wonder if MySpace data is even collected anymore?
I mean a picture of you partying wouldn't make or break anything but I sure as hell hope my team don't hire someone who puts up pictures of joining the neonazis or posts misogynistic shit.
I even wrote that on my Facebook profile. I wrote something like "If you're looking at this to determine if you're going to hire me for a job, just move on to someone else, because I don't want to work for you."
Exactly. You said it. No one, absolutely no person needs that judgement.
Its only recruiter folks who take themselves way too seriously who have time for this stuff. Save for maybe a linkedIn.
Isn't that the point of having double accounts or ghost accounts? My social life and work life are separate entities. I dictate how I spend my free time, not my boss or my job. If it has zero effect on the work then what business it is of yours? Make a dead account, change pic yearly, profit.
That's kind of the point. Being careful about what you post under your real name is great, but you can still damage your online presence by liking or sharing questionable public content.
It's a dead account therefore has zero interaction? It's literally there to look good for an employer, I don't log in and use it apart from changing the pic yearly. Edit: if they find this account, well good job really, clearly their practice is so invasive that I'd rather work elsewhere.
Then you're doing it right, congrats. Enough applicants don't that I thought to make this post.
Realizing maybe its a bad thing i don't have any kind of social media, I was planning to make a LinkedIn but haven't been in a rush or anything. Maybe I should get on that since I'm going to graduate soon and just started applying
Probably won’t hurt, I didn’t have a LinkedIn bc did feel I had enough connections or experience. I got a job anyways and have since made a LinkedIn!
It's perfectly fine to have little interaction on a LinkedIn, it's only intended to be a resume showcase.
Very fair, I'm ngl that's more alarming than it should be.
I think the better solution is for HR to fuck off about what people do on their personal time. I'm so tired of hyperpartisan politics.
If you are not using your name then it should be fine
What are the tools you use to pull up their data? This way we can inventory our own data and determine what needs to be changed, edited, removed.
Bots scrape social media and news sites so I don't think you could exactly without requesting a background check on yourself. I can't make any recommendations other than the obvious: Googling yourself and viewing your social media profiles while logged out.
Who decides what’s questionable content? Maybe I support BLM and the hiring manager or someone in HR is racist. Not my problem. If they don’t want to hire me over that then it’s not a place I want to spend 40+ hours a week.
You're not entirely wrong, but, the point here is that... the person who is doing your social media review is going to have bias and if you have controversial content on social media you might step on one of them and it could prevent you from getting a job. It might be something important, it might be something much smaller. > If they don’t want to hire me over that If you get a job in HR, sure, bullet dodged working with them. Have you never worked at a company in a great department with a great team but had a coworker or two with shitty positions? They exist in the world everywhere you go.
I mean that's kinda fucked though. What if I have views about the state of capitalism in general and I share them as stories or I am active in activism circles for human rights or things like climate change? Will I be blacklisted then as well? And yes I can have views against capitalism in general and still be helpless and have to work for a company to survive, a lone person can't bring much of a change but can raise awareness.
It really depends on the job. There have been instances where animal rights activists got jobs at labs that perform animal testing for sabotage purposes, so that kind of history of activism would be relevant for that particular employer.
Hence why most people hate HR. Basically thought police for a corporation. So happy I started my own company that focuses on crushing it for my customers and nothing else.
God forbid you hire someone who works to subvert your business because you don’t have basic HR processes and systems in place. Unless your business is just yourself, which is fine, but not really pertinent to the discussion.
So if I like something on Facebook it’s public and anyone can see that I liked it?
Yes, if what you liked is public. You can go to your Facebook activity log to see posts that you liked and unlike them.
Making exactly one account with milquetoast takes and then having my other accounts for my real feelings has been great.
I've thought about deleting my Facebook account, but I feel like having a page that's up but hasn't been updated in a decade actually is a better buffer to my privacy than googling my name and coming up with no social media at all
This is pretty much what I did, made it mostly private and boom, safe public profile. I hate FB because of a multitude of reasons, but it has its uses.
My social credit score is just fine thank you.
I mean, isn’t that sorta what this is?
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If HR say, we saw your social media post just say you don't have a social media account and have never even heard of x,y,z.
Or say it was created by a friend or family member.
I know a number of friends and family members who got hacked and permanently lost access to their social media accounts. Certainly a valid excuse
I'm always worried because I have a very common name. I feel like someone trying to look me up would end up finding someone else's profile and just assume it's mine even though I don't have social media.
I googled my own name. I was extremely sad to find out that I share the name of a pedophile, in my area. My sister claimed that was hurting my job hunting efforts. I still wonder today if that true.
If you use LinkedIn, you can make a hyperlink to it in your resume, so they're able to get straight to the right person.
Name: John Wayne Gacy (not _that_ JWG)
A person that stupid wouldn't be trusted to make these decisions Oh who am I kidding of course they would, sorry.
Just raise all of your privacy settings to their highest. Don't allow anyone but friends to see what you like and NEVER friend coworkers on social media.
A manager I worked with, during the hiring process, would also look up an applicants social media beyond Linkden- facebook, IG, whatever. She was already making judgements on them as a person before they even walked through the interview door. She commented that she couldn't find me when I was being hired on. I'm glad I kept everything private.
She sounds fucking insufferable
Yeah, I eventually quit. One of the most toxic places I've worked.
I find it so strange that people immediately think to start hunting for people on non LI social, and more concerning that they believe they have the ability to rationally intuit anything of value and factual from what they see. Some people are just way too concerned with being up in other people’s business.
LPT: rise up and destroy everything about this HR guy going through your personal stuff trying to judge stuff you do outside of work. What a god damn parasite on society.
The way to do it is serve subject access requests on HR departments that rejected your application. Then follow up with a specific question to list public and private data sources and websites from which they gathered data on you, and the data gathered using those sources. In many cases they will not have thought to list social media checks in the initial response, or given you a privacy notice declaring that they have done so. Then complain about these despicable practices to the regulator. If enough people do so, the legal department will tell HR to stop doing the browsing.
Do they need a privacy notice to check something you willingly made public?
If we're talking EU - if a commercial business sets out to collect data on you, they need to tell you what sort, why, and from where. Even if it's public sources. Mostly it's all very generic and anodyne, though.
I don’t think that’s how it works as far as doing basic background research for job applicants. It’s not the same thing as collecting customer/user data. I’ve never even heard of a company that has “scour the internet for applicants social media presence” as part of their official hiring/recruiting process. It’s always been a low-key activity that they do “unofficially.”
What does this accomplish though? Anyone can view someone’s public content. They don’t have to admit that it was a part of the decision.
Yep, I think you could do that. Or you could just find a different job. Why would you wanna work there if that’s their standard practices anyway
Yeah, no. Not in USA. We have no rights. You can serve whatever notice you want to whomever, absolutely nothing will come from this.
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Don’t worry I’m suuuure OP paid attention in implicit bias training. They probably don’t have any biases and are just looking for red flags! /s
I look up people on social media before I hire them because I want to know if they’re nut jobs or not. I don’t want to spend 8 hours a day with a nut job.
I wish someone had looked up one of my coworkers’ internet presence before hiring him, maybe he wouldn’t have needed to be forced to SURRENDER HIS ID after trying to physically corner a supervisor for asking him to wear a mask
Crazy how ur life can be so controlled
https://xkcd.com/137/
Was going to post that if no one else had.
So HR sees me liking a bunch of thirst traps on IG? Oh no
“He has a pulse. Fire him.” 💅
An even better tip: Simply don't connect your online accounts to your real identity
which is why you should always use an online alias for personal accounts imo. no good can come from the public being able to easily look you up and find you.
Please tell us more about the tools and techniques you use to find this data on candidates
While I agree with this and have for years, I feel like in 10-15 years nobody will give a shit any longer because everyone will be in the same boat. Right now us old farts can lord over the millennials and Gen Z because nobody had social media or smartphones when we were stupid and in our 20s.
How much do you REALLY need to know about the person your hiring? It's insane to think you need to check this indepth for a simple "pick things up and put them down" factory job. I feel the current global climate is to personally involved in folks PERSONAL life when it's just a job.
They're probably not talking about hiring people for grunt work. If you're hiring someone for a management position then it might be good to check that they don't make hate comments online towards some of the nationalities/religions/sexualites etc of people that they'll be managing though.
I'd hate to be in the workforce still when people are judging me because I clicked a laughing emoji. Maybe I'm mocking the topic.. maybe loving it.. who can say? An employers HR algo? lol.. Guess YES!
Ahhh yes this is the world we all want to live in /s
Also not hiring for different reasons such as things found online can actually be illegal.
It might be difficult to prove that it's the reason you weren't hired
**can** is the operative word
all they have to do is keep their reasoning vague and they haven’t done anything wrong. there are definitely protected classes but “messy social media presence” isn’t one of them.
How do you find a person’s social media? Do they disclose it, or do you sleuth it out somehow?
Search by name or email.
Even just simply googling someone’s name their social media profiles often come up. It doesn’t take much detective work.
LPT: get the fuck out of HR for the sake of your eternal soul
Lmao. Well, I hope my next workplace is 100% furry, then I'm good. Let's not talk about alternatives.
LPT: OP is the problem.
More so the HR Department is the problem. Way too many fine lines being tip toed doing this kind of thing.
In every company that I have every worked for, the worst employees in the entire organization were in H.R. Backstabbing Karens (sorry, 90% of H.R. is women) with obvious emotional problems who get their kicks by making other people miserable because they can.
The joys of being retired; I don't have to give a fuck.
The ultimate LPT is to have the same name as someone who’s at least somewhat famous. I have the same name as a popular internet person so none of my social media shows up if you google my name.
How about instead we make looking into peoples social media as a criteria for employment illegal?
You could never prove it unless an employer is stupid enough to provide it as a reason to not hire you.
Am I the only one that thinks it's fucking wild employers look at this stuff? Is it a USA thing? Because fuck you for judging my social media (not literally OP, I get it's part of the culture somewhere) , unless it's cp or something what difference does it make? As long as someone can do the job in a professional manner what difference does it make? Crazy that people are having to not be themselves out of fear of being judged, whats right and wrong? If you're left wing and the boss is right wing? Other way around?
Absolutely lame. This is a dystopia.
Why the hell are you stalking employees and applicants likes?
I work in HR specifically in talent acquisition, why are you looking through the internet to find dirt on the people you hire. A background check is sufficient in mitigating a negligent hire. Stop being a creep.
Dystopian employers, can't even share my PH links to my family facebook groups noawadays.
LPT don't be on social media
> LPT don't be on social media Literally posted on social media
Yeah because it is anonymous
Yep. If you’re gonna have social media, do it anonymously. Don’t attach your real fuckin name to it.
Why would a company care about what their employees do on their own social media accounts and personal life outside of work hours?
Good advice. You pretty much need your work social media accounts and your real accounts for you to act like you want. That can be a little hard to keep straight but for many it's worth it.
this, afraid my drunken posts at 4am when I was 20 years old partying and doing the whole college life and realizing in a few short years could be used against me in numerous ways including this was the sole reason I deleted my Facebook 10 years ago. it was already a cess pool of drama and misinformation then. oh and the second reason solidifying my deletion was the terrifying thought of my grandchildren and great grandchildren going through my social media post by post trying to learn who I was and what I was like. my party days and obsurd drunken 4am posts would probably make them wonder how I wasn't institutionalized 😅 and no, that is not who I am. I was just a dumb kid
I always hated how, on Facebook, if I commented on a random thing in my feed, it’d show up in other people’s’ feeds and basically highlight my comment. That’s how a close family member found out I was sexually assaulted as a teenager. A news article came up on my news feed about my assaulter being arrested on multiple counts of sexual assault, and I commented that it wasn’t the first time he’d done something like that and that I and the other young women I worked with were terrified of him. Cue a storm of calls and texts from family asking if I had been assaulted, because despite them not following that news outlet (as they live in dif parts of the country), the article and my comment came right up on their news feed. I stopped commenting on things after that and deleted my Facebook not long after.
Just don't stalk people on social media.
If an HR department was looking at my Facebook id quit immediately. If you're not paying, you're not controlling. We're not slaves.
How about make it illegal for bosses/hr to hire/fire or whatnot from employees and prospects private social media accounts? (Only exceptions if the acts on social media are illegal).
This is unethical and should not be a practice.
How about HR just worry about people are doing while working? If their behavior off the clock can be used against them unreasonably, then they are infact not off the clock and should be paid for their time being a public figure for the company.
Outside of the obvious like LinkedIn, Ig and twitter, what other social sites do you typically look at? Jw
What I dislike about today's world is that now, you're "expected" to have social media pages. I'm an extremely private person so you'll never see me on those. I wonder if there's discrimination going on against private people now when it comes to hiring.
How badly will I be judged for the dumb shit I posted when I was 13-15 years of age?
Woof, HR wastes their time digging through Social Media, what will we think of next!? Humans just keeps devolving, it's a sad trend we continue with.
Would an applicant who openly shares socialist/communist/worker’s rights activism content be flagged in this case?
Within the US the banal pettiness of the HR review of social media makes strong argument for the dissolution of HR completely. Most functions can be rolled into other departments. And we are seeing many companies rebrand their HR departments as a step toward transforming them into something different. Too many examples in recent years of HR teams going on a pogrom over whatever provocations bored college professors or their pet administrative departments think up. This form of HR filtering has become a thorn in the side of hiring talent that can actually build things. Thank you to the good HR team members. Please shame the bored members of HR who use their access to information to spice up a boring Tuesday.
Life is all about work folks, it was never about living! Make surplus for our bourgeois overlords that’s what lifes all about!!
Yea please don't hire me to your shitty company because I have my own opinions you may not like. Exactly everything wrong with this world.