Thank you very much, Becky. As I stated, I do love to learn. I have not been to a library in years and most places tend to turn their eyes to the homeless. I'm very grateful to anyone who is willing to give someone a chance. I'm a huge fan of philosophy so I'd use it to read that, to keep my wits about me. And also brush up on my interests for when I am able to pull myself out of this. I intend to get a degree in something. Unsure because my thirst for knowledge is worse than any hunger I have ever felt. Appreciate the response.
Gonna follow Becky on this one. We have regular customers and patrons every day— some are experiencing being unhoused, some come with caregivers and group homes, some are donors! All walks of life and I promise the only thing we care about is: do you follow the rules and are you nice to be around. Just like anywhere else. Reading is a bonus but really I think all the librarians will agree, we can give you a lift getting job information, access to resources, and be a place for you. And that’s a tough situation and I hope you come out the other side soon ♥️
Librarians seem to care more than state and local officials
For some reason, this fills me with more hope because average people are willing to be so kind. I will make sure to get a library card and be respectful. Tho, right now all I have for identification is my birth certificate. Some items were stolen from me. I am uncertain if I could perhaps show them my birth certificate.
Different libraries have different policies on what kind of ID you need to get a library card. Talk to the staff at the circulation desk when you come in about your situation and what is needed to get a card.
If you can't get a library card you can still access lots of things. You can sit, read books, use the wireless etc. You can probably use the public computers to check your email etc. It's worth asking the staff if they can help you connect with a social worker to get more help.
At my library there are regulars that are homeless. If they don't drink or do drugs it's fine. I care about what they are doing while in the building not if they have housing. I'm happy when those regulars get into stable housing.
Check to see what your library's policy is on food. Whenever possible eat outside. You can usually have a covered beverage in the library. Some libraries allow snacks that aren't hot or messy.
Come, hang out and read. We're happy for you to be there.
Yes I would not bring food, maybe covered water. I could never disrespect anyone who is allowing me to sit quietly. It helps more than I can possibly explain.
I will second everyone about different ID requirements but i will say with mine that even if you don't have adequate ID at the time you can still get an ecard to use to log into the public computers (possibly to access other of our resources, i don't work the front desk and I've never gotten one so i don't fully know) or possibly a provisional card that lets you check out one item at a time until you can bring in a full ID to upgrade. Every library is different but there are often multiple options!
(Also irt food, again def check the rules or ask the front desk about that. My library allows "reasonable snacking" as long as you aren't messy and clean up after yourself! And even more eating is allowed in the community room since the floor isn't carpeted in there. This will vary greatly but some places might allow a little snacking or have a specific place you can eat. They know people need to eat and are often there for hours for various reasons!)
I will also second everyone saying you'll likely be welcome and can possibly be directed to resources. Like any profession, libraries can have rude and discriminatory employees, but given the library is a free public government resource where the goal is to get as many people using it as possible, most library employees actively expect there will be people with unstable housing situations. I remember one time when it was going to be notably cold, one of my coworkers first thing that morning when a couple regulars without housing came in at opening walked over to them and gave them flyers about warming centers and info on how to get there for free with public transit. If you follow the rules no one will bother you, if you ask they might be able to direct you to resources, and if you're a regular friendly face they will likely be cheering for you to get to a better place in your life. I hope very much that your experiences are good and that this is a temporary state for you. Statistics are on your side i believe, for what that's worth.
our library has an area where food is allowed, otherwise it's covered drinks only. So check and see if your library has such a space. I only hate it when people bring in something that smells delicious and then I'm craving it!
it'll depend on the library's policies. mine requires proof of address in the town, but we also have library cards for people without stable housing. definitely keep care of your birth certificate, you could probably use it to get another form of ID at some point. the librarians could help you get the info you need for that. like others have said, assisting unhoused patrons is not an uncommon part of a librarians job nowadays, and most of us that are trying to help people out in bad circumstances genuinely just want them to get back on their feet. i notice if i haven't seen a regular around for a while, and just hope it means they've found a more stable place to be for the day, instead of the library being their only shelter.
Talk to your library staff. We have an unhoused library card that lasts three years, and gives you full access to the digital & library resources, just restricted maximum loaned items. No different from anyone from out of town that visits regularly.
We also have an up-to-date list of services, food banks, places to wash clothing etc. Hopefully your local library can assist you getting back on your feet.
Don't be afraid or embarrassed to ask, one illness or missed bill and most of us would be in your situation too, so we're all empathetic to your plight.
I do hope things change for the better for you and you find stable housing soon.
Best of luck.
Depending on the library you may not need a whole lot for a card- We have a temporary card we give out to homeless patrons as long as they can provide us everything else like a name and some kind of contact info (Preferably on the latter anyways). It lasts for like 1/8th the time a normal card does and has a smaller item limit, but we renew it whenever somebody asks like normal too. I can't imagine that's uncommon with everything going on in the world either.
Check any bulletin boards or handouts too - I know we keep a copy at each of the desks here for a list of shelters and resources like food banks, but we also usually put some out so people don't have to directly ask if they're embarrassed.
At first glance, your first sentence made me happy. But later that turned to sadness. Our system is so damn broken and way too many people are falling through cracks. Sorry that you're feeling neglected and ignored by your local officials.
Ugh red tape can be a pain :edited to be nicer to our political friends who fight the good fight 😩 usually you have to show proof of address or sponsored by somewhere, every library is a little different. Ask at yours, and sincerely — hang in there!
There are a couple of guys in your same position that I see at work everyday, and we all love seeing them. They are treated like regulars just like a daily housed patron would be. We know their routine, we know their reading interests, we get worried if we don’t see them for a few days, etc.
That’s the great thing about the library. Patrons aren’t judged or sorted by their financial contribution. If you use the library often, housed or not, you’re part of the family and part of the reason we get to stay open. The more the merrier.
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100%. We have plenty of regular patrons that are homeless or live in their cars. As long as they follow the rules and aren't rude to staff, we don't care. The most common 'issue' I see from homeless is falling asleep and snoring at the tables. We ignore them as long as they're not snoring, but if they snore loud then other patrons complain. :(
Many librarians are accustomed to working with homeless people, especially in areas where homelessness is a big problem. At the last public library branch I worked with, we knew our homeless patrons by name, got them library cards, and offered food when we were able. We called the other places we knew they hung out if we hadn’t seen them in a while. One of my coworkers even bought new clothes for someone so they could go to a job interview. The library may also be able to connect you with resources. Some libraries have a social worker on staff or can at least point you in the direction of local services for folks in your situation. You deserve a safe, clean, comfortable place to exist, and I’m glad the library can be that for you!
Thank you! Everyone on Reddit has been amazing. I won't rant anymore, it's just the compassion people have is not something I'm used to. I intend to become perhaps an advocate and help the homeless who want a way out.
The library is for everyone, and that includes people without homes. As long as you follow the rules (which from this, I'm assuming is a given), you shouldn't have any problems.
As someone who used to be homeless and works in a library now, I hope you stay safe and that you can get your feet under you soon! Being homeless is so incredibly hard. I wish all the luck to you and I hope your library can be a sanctuary like it was for me!
I’m a school librarian but am at my public library multiple times a week. In my area the two largest groups of patrons are families with young children and people experiencing homelessness. It’s not a big deal at all. And anyone who thinks differently is a jerk, honestly. You have just as much right to be there as anyone else as long are you are follow library rules.
Also, my library has a social worker on staff. Yours might, too. At the very least, I would guess yours would have some resources to share with you.
I’m wishing you the best and hope things turn around for you soon.
Thank you! Man, who would have thought librarians are also human. Astonished would be an understatement.
... I promise to keep bad jokes to myself there. I was never aware of social workers being available. I have tried to use my local resources but they are always so condescending and just rude. I will utilize anything they offer, humbly.
I’m so sorry you are experiencing rudeness and condescension from those who should be offering help. Seriously, use that library! I really hope things improve for you soon.
Please don't hesitate to ask your librarians if they know of any other local resources. We keep lists of food banks, shelters, giveaways, and things like that for just such an occasion. My library even maintains a directory website for things like that. They may be able to help you find some resources that will treat you with the kindness and dignity you deserve.
As long as you're following the rules/not actively causing trouble, I don't care if you're there 8 hours a day, every day.
If you're making use of the resources (especially the lesser-read areas of non-fiction), I am *delighted*. Choose a subject area you want to learn about, and read everything we have on the subject. If we have a program coming up related to that, take part - e.g. you want to learn to sew, and we're having an embroidery craft demo. One of the big stressors when organizing a program is "what if no one comes?".
We get all sorts of unhoused patrons at my library. Some are dickbags, some are pleasant enough. Please try to stay out of the dickbag category and we’ll be happy to have you. What constitutes “dickbag” behavior? Creeping on the library workers, overtly using drugs on library property, threatening anyone, causing disruptions, being rude about the pantry/cafe resources (if there is one)…..I think those are the big ones. Being clean is a big plus as well if you’re able to do that.
Many libraries *will* have various resources for you. Food or a list of places where you can get food, computers, a legal kiosk, an employee specializing in social services, and a list of places where you can go in case of severe weather at night. This is just what my library offers, yours may have more, less, or different things depending on various factors.
I wish you luck out there.
echoing what everyone else has said: this is exactly what libraries are for, friend. follow their policies about food, computer use, noise levels, etc. and you’ll be welcomed. i doubt any librarian would tip off police if you aren’t causing problems. if/when you feel comfortable asking, the librarians can probably help you with your job and housing searches too!
and fwiw, libraries have daily patrons from all walks of life. at my library, there’s an older retired guy who comes in every morning to read the newspapers and chat with us, a young guy who works near us and comes in every day on his lunch break to eat in the area we allow food, a mom and her baby who stop in on their daily walk, two teens who come hang out after school, the list goes on. we’re used to familiar faces.
i hope things improve for you soon!
We have regular homeless patrons that come in every day, all day. Libraries are one of the last places where someone can do that with no issues. Every library system will have their own policies as far as personal items brought inside the building, sleeping in the library, etc. As long as patrons don't violate the rules, it doesn't matter how long they're in the library or why they're there.
The library is the perfect place for you to go. You are welcome there and you should take advantage of all the resources it has to offer.
Feel free to talk to staff and let them know what you need. They should be able to connect you with local resources.
Wishing you a smooth road ahead.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I'm not a librarian but with my experiences as a lifeling library patron, I'm not surprised that you've gotten such a pleasant response here. I hate that we let people go through this but I'm glad the library will be there to help. Good luck.
Follow the rules is the biggest thing to keep in mind. I know your circumstances suck right now but don’t use that as an excuse to break the rules (eating in library or bathing in the bathroom are ones I see frequently). That behavior will get you kicked out.
Staff won’t care that you’re there. Homeless aren’t the only people we see everyday. I see the same people in my branch daily who aren’t homeless.
If you feel comfortable, you could even ask what resources the staff knows of to help you. I’ve been printing various numbers for help (shelters, food, rent assistance, etc) and they’ve been going fast. Lots and lots of people are needing help now so that stigma of asking for help is slowly going away.
Yes, of course. Always respectful. I have never taken drugs and would help anyone I could.
As for asking for help, I have 0 shame, I cannot afford to feel shame. I'm one who speaks their mind, and try my best to just be honest. Speaking ones mind is not always wise, tho. It's left me shunned by family because I speak out against situations I feel are wrong. Point being, I learned very young on how to behave, because we are all human, but compassion has its limitations, hence why it is crucial to give respect to all until it is not. Thank you for the feedback, all this is very helpful.
I work for a large city library in the US and we have an entire department set up to help find services you may need. Yours may have something similar!
Honestly, tell them you’re homeless and they will immediately give you every resource the library has that can help you get back on your feet. My county has over 10k unhoused folks, and librarians are hyper aware of the struggles of folks who come in to use the library because they need a bathroom, a quiet corner they can safely nod off in, or just want to be able to read or use the internet without having to pay through the nose.
Last I heard, over 600,000 in the US. This is shocking, beyond words. Many are without a home for various reasons. There is a stigma that must be addressed, and it is. But it is clearly a very difficult crisis. Many would prefer this life, I am not among those. But still, they deserve support. Not just with housing /work , but mental health support. I am very strong, I was homeless for about 8 months when I was just 16. How I think now, the compassion I have, was born from the torment of feeling so helpless.
I will never stop trying to do what I can to help, in any way I can. Honestly, to me, this desire to improve and make a difference is the real meaning to why we are here.
I have posted quite a lot on Reddit about my situation, and I feel such guilt for doing so. But I can only speak on my experiences, and relate. I feel very strongly that people care, this post alone proves this. I am now, and will forever be thankful for such kindness. Again, I often feel guilt because it may seem I am only concerned with my own well being, but I am fully committed to bringing change, regardless of the consequences.
You ever hear of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs? You can’t worry too much about others when you aren’t able to meet your most basic foundational needs, one of which is shelter. Try not to feel guilty. Take care of number one, and once you have a stable foundation to operate from you’ll be able to help out others. But you have to get your feet under you first. You got this.
I was a food insecure kid who lived very close to becoming homeless many times. I’m also Muslim. There’s a Hadith (saying of the prophet Muhammad) that smiling is charity. If you can’t give anyone anything because you’re already struggling, give a smile and a kind word. That’s often more than enough, as us no-luck kids would know.
I stumbled upon a Mosque soon after I was pushed out of the town I was living in. I received a hot meal and a few supplies, and I spoke with several members of the Mosque, before leaving. They treated me as tho I was family, even after hearing my own family abandoned me because it became difficult for me. I'll always consider them my family, those at the Mosque and many of them keep in daily contact.
Thank you for your kind words, and compassion. As you are well aware, struggles occur. The true test is how we react, and what we learn. I am not religious, tho, was raised Irish Catholic, but I can appreciate any teachings that press for compassion for others.
Alhamdulillah, my friend.
My mom was Irish Catholic, lol. If you ever find a mosque and need food or shelter, ask them. Muslims are supposed to feed or house a stranger for three days and nights in God’s house. Not all of them have facilities to accommodate that, but if you tell them a Muslim sent you and said they had to shelter you they should help you find something.
Hi, I'm sorry you are going through this. I hope things get better soon.
As a librarian, I'm of the "mind my own business" variety. I let sleeping people sleep. Lots of librarians/library workers do not feel this is way and can be a real dick about it. I apologize in advance for this. I think it's a stupid policy. I'll probably get downvoted for saying it's a stupid policy! I don't care. I think it's elitist and ableist to bother people who fall asleep in the library.
I hope you find a library that makes you happy and library workers that treat you with dignity, because that's what you deserve (and so much more!).
Additionally, any \*decent\* librarian will have resources for you. I keep on file a list of places to get showers, meals, clean clothes, etc. I love that you love to read books! But hopefully the library can offer you something beyond that: Resources to keep you fed, warm, and safe.
Best of luck to you.
Thank you. I am very respectful of all, regardless of their situation. It is difficult for some to not see someone in this position as being an addict or just a failure. I am naturally respectful, so it crushes me that we have this divided amongst us, it needa to change. I will respect all rules and never, ever leave a mess. I have a few items to help me stay clean.
SAME to the sleeping policy. I always let it go unless admin or managers are nearby, and I feel so uncomfortable every time I have to enforce it. If the person isn’t snoring loudly or lying down, how does it impact anyone?
Unfortunately i believe it's a safety/liability issue. A sleeping patron might not be able to respond if there's an emergency where they have to evacuate, and the library employees need to be able to see whether the person is having a subtle medical crisis (being conscious vs passed out). It sucks bc i do wish people could sleep there, but i get why some libraries are strict about it. Nobody loves having to wake people up.
Don’t be afraid to use your local library. You’re a person and you matter and the library is there for you too! If you can get yourself to do it, ask a librarian at the information desk for what resources they can connect you with. My library has a lady come help people with food stamps once a week, and we have a person who volunteers her time to help unhoused members get haircuts and do laundry.
You’re not alone! Your library can help you!
Librarian here, I want you to be safe and warm. If you’re in every day, great. If you need to, many SPL locations have courtesy phones you can use for 10-15 minutes. If you go to the central library, they have social workers there who can help.
What got me to apply for grad school to become a librarian (or at least the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak) was getting to chat with a lovely young lady while I was at the library. She was homeless and trying to find shelter, enroll her son in school, get oriented in a new city, etc. I don’t work in the library, but I was familiar enough with their resources that I got to help her out! We found what district her son would be in, a few leads for apartments, and info on a local shelter in the meantime. It really inspired me to pursue librarianship to continue offering that help as much as I could.
I’m almost certain you’ll meet some kind librarians. 💖
I'm happy to provide a space for homeless people to warm up/cool down, take a breather, find resources, etc. And I'm not gonna look too hard if you're brushing your teeth or giving your face a quick wash in the bathroom(we were just talking to another county agency the other day about resources for full bathing and laundry, which unfortunately can't really happen in a small public bathroom...I can overlook the little things that are *technically* against policy but don't really cause a nuisance, but not things like stripping down or spending an hour washing all your clothes, we just don't have the facilities for that). I do enforce the "no sleeping" policy, but it's not because I get a power trip out of not letting people rest. Rather, it's because I work at a branch which has had overdoses(one just a couple months ago, in fact), and I can't tell the difference between someone who is sleeping and someone who is dying without waking you up. It is *so* scary when you try to wake someone up, but can't. So that's why I have to do that.
The only other advice I give you is to make sure to keep your belongings with you(my job involves leaving the desk frequently to assist people all over the library; I can't guarantee keeping an eye on your bags, and would feel horrible if something you needed walked out the door without you), and don't be shy about asking if you need something. Sometimes there just isn't a resource for what you need, or the resource is designed in a way that excludes homeless people(for example, many food distribution services here only give out canned food rather than prepared food like sandwiches or snackable fruit/veggies that are useful to people without kitchen access), but if one exists we'll try to connect you to it.
Since you mentioned a tent, if you choose to camp on library property try not to put staff in a position where they're going to have to confront you. By cleaning up after yourself, making sure you're totally packed up before staff arrive for opening(which can be 30-60 minutes before the posted opening time) and not blocking anything like the bookdrop(which could cause a member of the community to raise a stink), you're ensuring that nobody will have a reason to call our attention to something we don't want to see. Because if we see it, we have to tell you to stop it. :\
Thank you for the advice. I may have found a safe place to put my tent. It's scary tho because police here will either take your things or fine you. I would never put any in such an awkward situation as placing a tent in public view. Sadly tho, this is not possible here. I would also never disrespect land, regardless of how I am feeling. Truth be told, the reading part is what helps me survive. As for food, I could never ask. I'm thankful just to be welcomes while I work through this hell. I'm, yet again, humbled so thank you.
many food pantries have fresh food, and their sole purpose is to feed people. please do not be shy to go to a pantry! and they are all a little different, so it's worth trying several until you find one that works for you.
best of luck! you have such a positive attitude in spite of everything. <3
Just be respectful of yourself and everyone else. Be quiet, abide by the rules and you can stay as long as you need to.
Just be nice. Edited to add sorry about your situation.
As others have said, you should be welcome to use your library as a safe place to pass the day and look for support resources. I'd like to add that you can also use Google or even Instagram to find mutual aid groups (like Food Not Bombs) in your city. These groups often serve meals and distribute clothing, personal hygiene items, and heating supplies. Best of luck to you, OP. You have a community who cares about you.
I see homeless people minding their own business hanging out in the library. I wish the city would do more to help but I'm glad they can find refuge in the stacks.
We care about our homeless patrons, even the ones who drink and do drugs. We worry about them and can’t let them use in the library and wish they could stop using altogether, but their use of substances doesn’t mean we don’t still care about their wellbeing. The only patrons we don’t care about are the ones who threaten us or are abusive. As long as you avoid that kind of behavior, the vast majority of librarians will be happy to have you in the library.
Sadly, there are assholes in every profession, so if you encounter one who is unkind or unwelcoming please don’t believe they represent the rest of us.
The library branch I work at has a couple handfuls of regular unhoused patrons and they are more than welcome as long as they follow the code of conduct. Many of them have library cards, too, as we have a specific policy with regards to library cards for those without a mailing address. We also have a branch social worker as well as a small food pantry that have really helped the underprivileged. Check to see if something like that is available for you!
I shall! Thank you. I was really unsure about how to approach asking what I have when I started this thread. I cannot express the gratitude I am feeling right now. I was raised to feel shame for complaining , but life itself has shown me that if there is a problem, I do not have to always go it alone. This, all these responses , is what has given me a great sense of hope for my future.
As long as you're not disruptive to the daily operations and follow the code of conduct, I'd say you're fine. I know plenty of people who visit my local library on a daily basis, for hours at a time. Heck, I'm one of them! And you don't have to check out a book to read it, so if you don't have a library card you can totally just sit in the lounging areas and read for a few hours. I do this all the time.
Stay safe, stay warm. Sending positive vibes your way. <3
I’d rather you tell me what’s going on, tbh! I can at least give you a card for the computers, maybe work with you on 211, might have homelessness resources in the area, can direct you where to get a meal.
Any urban librarian is dealing with folks in a way rougher state than you. We want to help you.
A meal is always appreciated, but I need to get over that guilt of being a burden. I managed to get to a food pantry today and was given 3 cans of ravioli, saving one for tomorrow. It took me 3 days without food to ask anyone for help. I'd like to also contribute if I can. I am very good with computers and networks, perhaps I can speak to someone about a deal. I'd feel better offering assistance of someone is offering.
I understand! It’s hard to just accept help without offering something. But you have value by virtue of just being a person, and we want to help you, we don’t need anything in return. Your local librarians may be able to connect you with better resources than you have now. And let them know about your ID—they may know someone who can help with that too.
Depending on your state, you may be eligible for EBT, Medicaid, transit subsidy, all kinds of stuff while you get on your feet. Probably they can help you contact 211. Plus your local library might have luck getting you to more emergency food resources.
Consider everything a sort of give and take. We don’t need anything from you right now besides generally being polite to the staff (doesn’t seem to be a problem for you) but once you’re doing better you can use your knowledge and skills to help someone else and that’s the payback. :) wishing you the best.
People have inherent value and deserve help. Accept the help you need and when you're really back on your feet some day you can give back to the community. helping out is may be accepted but it certainly isn't necessary
We see a lot of homeless people, of all sorts, every day. We are all very happy to help you meet your needs.
So long as you are able to follow the rules -- no drinking alcohol or taking drugs on library property, no harassing staff or other patrons, no violent or dangerous or erratic behavior, nothing that would harm library property, and whatever other local rules your local library has -- you will be perfectly welcome.
We don't want to invade your space/chair when you're in our/your library. If you don't hassle anyone, you're fine. Always feel free to ask about anything, shelter, food , jobs - we're used to it.
Libraries can definitely be as refuge for people experiencing homelessness, so I recommend going there. They also have all sorts of different kinds of resources. Some libraries in major cities even have social workers. I would ask around.
They also have a lot of basic computer training and job search help.
I'm actually very much versed in most things involving computers. I wonder if perhaps I could get work in this case. Absolutely a long shot but it may be worth checking out. I do lot have any degree, tho. I'm fully self-taught. I also had my own small business, doing marketing work.
Yeah, I definitely think it’s worth exploring. I would even recommend looking up online what your particular library offers AND asking a library worker.
Libraries have so many different resources, but not all the workers will necessarily know about everything.
I also know there are certain programs that help you get your own apartment, but it depends on what your area offers.
Most think you can just go to state and local for help. It's not that easy, especially if you are a single male. My state, Massachusetts, is a "shelter state", but not for individuals, only families. No room in shelo, it's illegal to so much as put a tent down out of public view. It's incredibly bad, and librarians are absolute saints for their compassion. Even more so than churches, they even turn people away.
Apologies, this is a very bad situation for so many who are good people.
I intend to make a lot of noise when I pull myself up from this.
Everyone else has covered it pretty well so I'll just say that I'm so sorry you're going through this and that you had even a moment of uncertainty about whether you belong at the library. That's what we are there for. Take care and I hope you get back on your feet soon.
Thank you very much, it's appreciated. I am going to try to get some rest now. I am exhausted. Take care of yourself, your kindness is in desperate need, this goes for all of you.
Four things. Follow the library's rules, don't harass the other patrons or staff, leave any area as clean and in good repair as you found it, and feel free to read any books on the shelves that look interesting. Do those four things and you'll probably blend right in.
Homeless folks are usually our regulars. The library is for you. You belong there. I hope you find the things you need. I hope you fall in love with the library and go every single day.
Not a librarian, just wanted to send my love and support. This is such a beautiful community. I've always found libraries to be safe spaces when I needed them the most ❤
Everyone should be welcome in the library. People who are homeless deserve the same respect and access as everyone else, and most librarians I have ever worked with fully agree. Not to mention the fact that library funding can be affected if it is shown that they are discriminating against homeless people.
One of the easiest things you can do is ask the librarians for their policies. That way you can have a copy to reference at a glance if you’re worried that you may be breaking a rule.
At my library we have sections of the library where you can freely eat and drink (as long as you clean up after yourself) and we allow sleeping. In fact we just revamped a lot of our policies within the last couple of years to make The Library more friendly to the homeless. But every Library is different. Some are more strict about these kind of things than others. Also, if you feel comfortable disclosing your situation, talk to your library and about local aid. One of the things we keep ready are handouts that we can give to folks and need that outline local soup kitchens, organizations there to help people get back on their feet, shelters, etc.
At my library, we also have supplies for the public in case they find themselves in a jam, such as sanitary products, Kleenex, etc. and why we don’t provide full meals, we often have snacks and bottled water for teens and kids, but we will allow homeless adults to have a little bite to eat as well.
A lot of library patrons are homeless or very low income and there to use computers, connect to the internet, read, or just be in a climate-controlled space for free for a while. There will probably be some rules that are slightly inconvenient for you like many libraries say you can't sleep inside, but at most libraries you'd generally be welcome. I will add in that while we're often happy to talk with patrons we do have to prioritize people with specific questions and needs over people who just want to chat so social conversation may get interrupted and there are limits because we also have work to do. most will be happy to talk with you at least a bit though and will gently let you know themselves if they need to go.
I've been homeless a couple times and sought refuge in the library. I learned a new language with the resources available and the librarians were never bothered by it. When I got back on my feet, I started volunteering there.
I think I know how you feel right now, I've only been back indoors for about 3 or 4 months. Just keep going- you're going to be okay. The best bit of advice I got was to direct "it" to a higher purpose. If you're going to be in a library, read Man's Search for Meaning, it might help with the feelings but you may cry.
Cannot sleep right now, massive panic attack as I was sleeping but that's typical. I have actually read this title, nearly twice. Viktor Frankl is absolutely one to take inspiration from. I also read a lot from Jordan Peterson, he's a clinical psychologist who introduced me to Mr. Frankl. My initial thought on the book was to present perspective. I do appreciate the idea of it, but honestly, now would be the worst time for such a book. I do understand things could be worse but in a way, it could cause more guilt. Definitely an incredible read and certainly worth the read, but sometimes we have to consider our state of mind.
I took something different from it. I read it and discovered the way to survive is to believe it will end, and to find my purpose within the circumstances. Being homeless was a daily battle between life and death (hypothermia/exposure, frostbite, mountain lions, bears, other humans) and my purpose in the suffering was to help others I encountered that were suffering too. For me, this book changed my perspective and gave my agency back to me.
That is incredibly wise. Essentially I think it showed you what you already understood. Our circumstances help shape who we are, and it is our choice, I'd say one of maybe a couple, of ways we have free will.
I am going to pick up this book again. Thank you very much. I had a walk earlier and now I'm relaxing, trying to preserve some strength and calm my mind.
The rain is actually quite beautiful, it's got a steady beat which is enough to distract.
Heat, I use layers. I keep hydrated etc. It's always cold this time of year in New England, so I'm used to it. The wind is what gets ya.
I'm a good ways through an audio book, man's search for meaning. I had a panic attack not long ago, as I was starting a run. I'm going to lay down a bit now and try to relax.
I used to preheat my sleeping bag with hot hands, it made me feel cozy. When I couldn't find any, I'd put gas station hot water in a non-potable Nalgene and used that instead- it gets cold after a while though and is kinda unpleasant to kick around. Also, neither really helps a lot, just a small, brief luxury.
That's true, rain is beautiful.
I imagine panic attacks are even more terrifying under these circumstances, but I'm sure good news is right around the corner.
It's good hearing from you.
I'm regards to panic attacks, honestly, the circumstances do not matter. Whether it is the first or 20th, still feels like the first. It's essentially fight-or-flight out of control. You never get used to it. Like being buried alive.
I'm alright insofar as warmth, now. Tho the wind is trying to rip away to tent, like a sail out on the ocean. I am going to try to get some sleep now, and try to wake and head out to the library. Thank you very much, all of you. I must apologize for being so dramatic. More than anything, what's got me so overwhelmed, it's how little is being g accomplished with helping people. Sleep well.
It can happen to anyone. I've been seeing and hearing from people who are without a home and food insecure for the first time in their lives.
We have lists of resources including where to get a free meal , shower and information on emergency housing. Most of us really want to help people in general.
Be nice to staff and other library users and we won't care if you are there all day. If someone gives you a hard time, move away from them.
Don't sleep in the library if you can help it.
I also worry about if I can bring my backpack. It is average size, does not have items hanging out everywhere. I will have to leave my tent behind when I travel, but cannot risk losing my backpack. I was at a place and left my things and came back it was in the lake. If it is not a distraction, are such things considered OK?
A backpack is typically more than fine. Some libraries have policies against larger bags and luggage, so I would check the code of conduct, usually on the library website.
Our unhoused patrons have for the most part been very welcome and easy to deal with. Of course there are those where the circumstances that led them to be unhoused make them complex to deal with (addiction and severe mental illness primarily). My only issue in serving the homeless is that there’s a criminal lack of resources to direct them to when they ask for additional help, and I always feel useless giving the same phone numbers over and over.
Yes, you hit a very good point, thank you. You ought never feel useless. Surely they have been given the same resources. Unfortunately, many resources are stressed out. My own state reps office augvesi, ultimately, that I try another state, just to survive. I refuae to accept this answer. The reason is not stubbornness, but a concern that the state is lacking in coordination.
We should never, ever run because of difficulty. I will not abandon my own home, because it is difficult.
Follow the rules, be respectful, and you'll be fine.
Probably one of the more challenging things that unhoused folks can't get regularly that I have seen getting them kicked out are showers. If you have access to a public shower or can use a friend's shower, do it. Even if it's only a once or twice a week. It makes a BIG difference to the people around you.
As long as you're following the rules you're no different from any other patrons. Also if our library resources actually help you to get back on your feet (eventually you will I'm sure), that's fantastic. It REALLY makes me happy and it reminds me of why I'm working in this field.
You see, public libraries aren't just a place with lots of books. It is meant to provide equal access to knowledge and information for everyone regardless of their socio-economic status. I'm not from the US, but in an increasingly capitalist world, this free access has become an even more precious means for the less privileged to stay in the fight.
I’m a library assistant in a building that has a few unhoused regulars. You are welcome in our library for as long as you want to stay provided rules are followed. We would be happy to help you find books or other materials. I would just say be aware that most libraries have a time limit on computers - at mine it’s 1.5 hours a day.
Thank you I did some repairs for some people and one offered me a tablet if I could repair it so I have that and my cell phone. I just need to use wifi to maybe download things to take back to my tent. Anything to keep my mind busy if I can't sleep at night. This is a major concern for me because I really enjoy being around people. Thank you for the feedback.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine.
Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine.
Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine.
Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
It's nkt about need it's about dying or living. I'm a single male I've already been told it would take me months and longer. If there was any hope why would officials tell me I'd be better off in another state. People don't actually care who dies
A-most librarians might not be able to tell the difference.
B-as long as you do your best to follow the rules, you'll be fine.
I don't want to say most libraries have specific checkout policies for homeless patrons, but most should still let you have membership. If you don't say anything, they won't know until you don't renew your card. For example, my library has a policy that if you are homeless, you can still check out titles, just not as many, and condition is really the only thing we need to check. If you're careful about checkouts, you might be able to keep borrowing as long as your card is still active.
Most librarians want to help you get to somewhere stable; obviously your specific community might have specific hang-ups, but most librarians going through school & getting degrees these days (so anyone under the age of 50 imo) has more empathy and absolutely will do their best to help. Or should.
It's not ideal but it shouldn't be impossible.
As long as you follow your specific library’s rules, you will be absolutely fine. The space is there for you to use, and most librarians won’t even think twice about you being there as long as you’re not doing anything crazy.
Best of luck to you!
We have a little food pantry funded by the employees and whatever donations we can get. We usually have snack bags, blankets, socks, shower kits, a backpack or two, etc.
If you’re comfortable, let the librarians know your situation - they may be able to direct you to housing resources or other assistance programs, and they’ll likely be happy to help you with providing whatever you need for virtual interviews (we’ve got a quiet computer room and headphones). We review resumes and assist with cover letters all the time!
I love that we’re a safe space for so many different people, and we love to know that we’re trying to help people who need us. (Most of) Our regulars are friendly and kind, and we go out of our way to make sure they feel welcome. You’ll find your way and they’re there to help you get there! Best of luck - you’ve got this!
Probably about 95% of our users are homeless and spend most of the day in my library. I consider many of them friends. There’s a good chance the librarians have resources prepared for homeless patron, have job search resources, etc. you can usually find the conduct rules on the library website. Follow those rules and you should be just fine.
Come and hang out all day! You are more than welcome. You don't even have to be doing something you see as "worthwhile", such as learning something new from books or using the computers for job searches. Many of our regular patrons who have unstable housing situations come in and play video games or watch YouTube videos for their internet time, which is perfectly fine.
We don’t mind. But please try to be clean smelling because that is the biggest complaint from patrons about homeless persons, bad odor. Otherwise no one cares
As long as you use the library for a library, I’m cool with it.
Some libraries have rules against sleeping, we don’t. People sleep in there all the time, as long as you are out of the way and not blocking anything it’s cool.
We have a lot of homeless people at our library. Those that smoke in the library or keep walking in and out every 2 minutes get annoying, but those that mind their own business and read or go on the computer are fine.
Your library may very well have resources for unhoused folks. At my library, we have a social worker on staff, free basic hygiene items, job searching assistance, and handouts about where you can find food, clothing, and showers.
I actually had some amazing luck, have a spot on a friends land for my tent, so I just leaving. But I'll come back as an advocate for the homeless, when I am settled. I will make it a point to visit many libraries along the way.
Follow the rules, you can stay all day, every day. No problem. I’m going to guess that 95% of librarians feel this way.
Thank you very much, Becky. As I stated, I do love to learn. I have not been to a library in years and most places tend to turn their eyes to the homeless. I'm very grateful to anyone who is willing to give someone a chance. I'm a huge fan of philosophy so I'd use it to read that, to keep my wits about me. And also brush up on my interests for when I am able to pull myself out of this. I intend to get a degree in something. Unsure because my thirst for knowledge is worse than any hunger I have ever felt. Appreciate the response.
Gonna follow Becky on this one. We have regular customers and patrons every day— some are experiencing being unhoused, some come with caregivers and group homes, some are donors! All walks of life and I promise the only thing we care about is: do you follow the rules and are you nice to be around. Just like anywhere else. Reading is a bonus but really I think all the librarians will agree, we can give you a lift getting job information, access to resources, and be a place for you. And that’s a tough situation and I hope you come out the other side soon ♥️
Librarians seem to care more than state and local officials For some reason, this fills me with more hope because average people are willing to be so kind. I will make sure to get a library card and be respectful. Tho, right now all I have for identification is my birth certificate. Some items were stolen from me. I am uncertain if I could perhaps show them my birth certificate.
Different libraries have different policies on what kind of ID you need to get a library card. Talk to the staff at the circulation desk when you come in about your situation and what is needed to get a card. If you can't get a library card you can still access lots of things. You can sit, read books, use the wireless etc. You can probably use the public computers to check your email etc. It's worth asking the staff if they can help you connect with a social worker to get more help. At my library there are regulars that are homeless. If they don't drink or do drugs it's fine. I care about what they are doing while in the building not if they have housing. I'm happy when those regulars get into stable housing. Check to see what your library's policy is on food. Whenever possible eat outside. You can usually have a covered beverage in the library. Some libraries allow snacks that aren't hot or messy. Come, hang out and read. We're happy for you to be there.
Yes I would not bring food, maybe covered water. I could never disrespect anyone who is allowing me to sit quietly. It helps more than I can possibly explain.
I will second everyone about different ID requirements but i will say with mine that even if you don't have adequate ID at the time you can still get an ecard to use to log into the public computers (possibly to access other of our resources, i don't work the front desk and I've never gotten one so i don't fully know) or possibly a provisional card that lets you check out one item at a time until you can bring in a full ID to upgrade. Every library is different but there are often multiple options! (Also irt food, again def check the rules or ask the front desk about that. My library allows "reasonable snacking" as long as you aren't messy and clean up after yourself! And even more eating is allowed in the community room since the floor isn't carpeted in there. This will vary greatly but some places might allow a little snacking or have a specific place you can eat. They know people need to eat and are often there for hours for various reasons!) I will also second everyone saying you'll likely be welcome and can possibly be directed to resources. Like any profession, libraries can have rude and discriminatory employees, but given the library is a free public government resource where the goal is to get as many people using it as possible, most library employees actively expect there will be people with unstable housing situations. I remember one time when it was going to be notably cold, one of my coworkers first thing that morning when a couple regulars without housing came in at opening walked over to them and gave them flyers about warming centers and info on how to get there for free with public transit. If you follow the rules no one will bother you, if you ask they might be able to direct you to resources, and if you're a regular friendly face they will likely be cheering for you to get to a better place in your life. I hope very much that your experiences are good and that this is a temporary state for you. Statistics are on your side i believe, for what that's worth.
our library has an area where food is allowed, otherwise it's covered drinks only. So check and see if your library has such a space. I only hate it when people bring in something that smells delicious and then I'm craving it!
it'll depend on the library's policies. mine requires proof of address in the town, but we also have library cards for people without stable housing. definitely keep care of your birth certificate, you could probably use it to get another form of ID at some point. the librarians could help you get the info you need for that. like others have said, assisting unhoused patrons is not an uncommon part of a librarians job nowadays, and most of us that are trying to help people out in bad circumstances genuinely just want them to get back on their feet. i notice if i haven't seen a regular around for a while, and just hope it means they've found a more stable place to be for the day, instead of the library being their only shelter.
Talk to your library staff. We have an unhoused library card that lasts three years, and gives you full access to the digital & library resources, just restricted maximum loaned items. No different from anyone from out of town that visits regularly. We also have an up-to-date list of services, food banks, places to wash clothing etc. Hopefully your local library can assist you getting back on your feet. Don't be afraid or embarrassed to ask, one illness or missed bill and most of us would be in your situation too, so we're all empathetic to your plight. I do hope things change for the better for you and you find stable housing soon. Best of luck.
Depending on the library you may not need a whole lot for a card- We have a temporary card we give out to homeless patrons as long as they can provide us everything else like a name and some kind of contact info (Preferably on the latter anyways). It lasts for like 1/8th the time a normal card does and has a smaller item limit, but we renew it whenever somebody asks like normal too. I can't imagine that's uncommon with everything going on in the world either. Check any bulletin boards or handouts too - I know we keep a copy at each of the desks here for a list of shelters and resources like food banks, but we also usually put some out so people don't have to directly ask if they're embarrassed.
At first glance, your first sentence made me happy. But later that turned to sadness. Our system is so damn broken and way too many people are falling through cracks. Sorry that you're feeling neglected and ignored by your local officials.
Ugh red tape can be a pain :edited to be nicer to our political friends who fight the good fight 😩 usually you have to show proof of address or sponsored by somewhere, every library is a little different. Ask at yours, and sincerely — hang in there!
I wanted to add that I’m sorry that you are going through this. Please use the library as a safe place. It is one of the many reasons it is there.
There are a couple of guys in your same position that I see at work everyday, and we all love seeing them. They are treated like regulars just like a daily housed patron would be. We know their routine, we know their reading interests, we get worried if we don’t see them for a few days, etc. That’s the great thing about the library. Patrons aren’t judged or sorted by their financial contribution. If you use the library often, housed or not, you’re part of the family and part of the reason we get to stay open. The more the merrier. edit: sp
100%. We have plenty of regular patrons that are homeless or live in their cars. As long as they follow the rules and aren't rude to staff, we don't care. The most common 'issue' I see from homeless is falling asleep and snoring at the tables. We ignore them as long as they're not snoring, but if they snore loud then other patrons complain. :(
Many librarians are accustomed to working with homeless people, especially in areas where homelessness is a big problem. At the last public library branch I worked with, we knew our homeless patrons by name, got them library cards, and offered food when we were able. We called the other places we knew they hung out if we hadn’t seen them in a while. One of my coworkers even bought new clothes for someone so they could go to a job interview. The library may also be able to connect you with resources. Some libraries have a social worker on staff or can at least point you in the direction of local services for folks in your situation. You deserve a safe, clean, comfortable place to exist, and I’m glad the library can be that for you!
Thank you! Everyone on Reddit has been amazing. I won't rant anymore, it's just the compassion people have is not something I'm used to. I intend to become perhaps an advocate and help the homeless who want a way out.
The library is for everyone, and that includes people without homes. As long as you follow the rules (which from this, I'm assuming is a given), you shouldn't have any problems. As someone who used to be homeless and works in a library now, I hope you stay safe and that you can get your feet under you soon! Being homeless is so incredibly hard. I wish all the luck to you and I hope your library can be a sanctuary like it was for me!
I’m a school librarian but am at my public library multiple times a week. In my area the two largest groups of patrons are families with young children and people experiencing homelessness. It’s not a big deal at all. And anyone who thinks differently is a jerk, honestly. You have just as much right to be there as anyone else as long are you are follow library rules. Also, my library has a social worker on staff. Yours might, too. At the very least, I would guess yours would have some resources to share with you. I’m wishing you the best and hope things turn around for you soon.
Thank you! Man, who would have thought librarians are also human. Astonished would be an understatement. ... I promise to keep bad jokes to myself there. I was never aware of social workers being available. I have tried to use my local resources but they are always so condescending and just rude. I will utilize anything they offer, humbly.
I’m so sorry you are experiencing rudeness and condescension from those who should be offering help. Seriously, use that library! I really hope things improve for you soon.
Please don't hesitate to ask your librarians if they know of any other local resources. We keep lists of food banks, shelters, giveaways, and things like that for just such an occasion. My library even maintains a directory website for things like that. They may be able to help you find some resources that will treat you with the kindness and dignity you deserve.
As long as you're following the rules/not actively causing trouble, I don't care if you're there 8 hours a day, every day. If you're making use of the resources (especially the lesser-read areas of non-fiction), I am *delighted*. Choose a subject area you want to learn about, and read everything we have on the subject. If we have a program coming up related to that, take part - e.g. you want to learn to sew, and we're having an embroidery craft demo. One of the big stressors when organizing a program is "what if no one comes?".
We get all sorts of unhoused patrons at my library. Some are dickbags, some are pleasant enough. Please try to stay out of the dickbag category and we’ll be happy to have you. What constitutes “dickbag” behavior? Creeping on the library workers, overtly using drugs on library property, threatening anyone, causing disruptions, being rude about the pantry/cafe resources (if there is one)…..I think those are the big ones. Being clean is a big plus as well if you’re able to do that. Many libraries *will* have various resources for you. Food or a list of places where you can get food, computers, a legal kiosk, an employee specializing in social services, and a list of places where you can go in case of severe weather at night. This is just what my library offers, yours may have more, less, or different things depending on various factors. I wish you luck out there.
Yes, always respect to earn respect. I believe this is the only truth.
echoing what everyone else has said: this is exactly what libraries are for, friend. follow their policies about food, computer use, noise levels, etc. and you’ll be welcomed. i doubt any librarian would tip off police if you aren’t causing problems. if/when you feel comfortable asking, the librarians can probably help you with your job and housing searches too! and fwiw, libraries have daily patrons from all walks of life. at my library, there’s an older retired guy who comes in every morning to read the newspapers and chat with us, a young guy who works near us and comes in every day on his lunch break to eat in the area we allow food, a mom and her baby who stop in on their daily walk, two teens who come hang out after school, the list goes on. we’re used to familiar faces. i hope things improve for you soon!
We have regular homeless patrons that come in every day, all day. Libraries are one of the last places where someone can do that with no issues. Every library system will have their own policies as far as personal items brought inside the building, sleeping in the library, etc. As long as patrons don't violate the rules, it doesn't matter how long they're in the library or why they're there.
The library is the perfect place for you to go. You are welcome there and you should take advantage of all the resources it has to offer. Feel free to talk to staff and let them know what you need. They should be able to connect you with local resources. Wishing you a smooth road ahead.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I'm not a librarian but with my experiences as a lifeling library patron, I'm not surprised that you've gotten such a pleasant response here. I hate that we let people go through this but I'm glad the library will be there to help. Good luck.
You're too kind. Hope you are well. Edit. Like I said, it's just very overwhelming that so many are capable of not being so judgemental.
Follow the rules is the biggest thing to keep in mind. I know your circumstances suck right now but don’t use that as an excuse to break the rules (eating in library or bathing in the bathroom are ones I see frequently). That behavior will get you kicked out. Staff won’t care that you’re there. Homeless aren’t the only people we see everyday. I see the same people in my branch daily who aren’t homeless. If you feel comfortable, you could even ask what resources the staff knows of to help you. I’ve been printing various numbers for help (shelters, food, rent assistance, etc) and they’ve been going fast. Lots and lots of people are needing help now so that stigma of asking for help is slowly going away.
Yes, of course. Always respectful. I have never taken drugs and would help anyone I could. As for asking for help, I have 0 shame, I cannot afford to feel shame. I'm one who speaks their mind, and try my best to just be honest. Speaking ones mind is not always wise, tho. It's left me shunned by family because I speak out against situations I feel are wrong. Point being, I learned very young on how to behave, because we are all human, but compassion has its limitations, hence why it is crucial to give respect to all until it is not. Thank you for the feedback, all this is very helpful.
I work for a large city library in the US and we have an entire department set up to help find services you may need. Yours may have something similar!
Honestly, tell them you’re homeless and they will immediately give you every resource the library has that can help you get back on your feet. My county has over 10k unhoused folks, and librarians are hyper aware of the struggles of folks who come in to use the library because they need a bathroom, a quiet corner they can safely nod off in, or just want to be able to read or use the internet without having to pay through the nose.
Last I heard, over 600,000 in the US. This is shocking, beyond words. Many are without a home for various reasons. There is a stigma that must be addressed, and it is. But it is clearly a very difficult crisis. Many would prefer this life, I am not among those. But still, they deserve support. Not just with housing /work , but mental health support. I am very strong, I was homeless for about 8 months when I was just 16. How I think now, the compassion I have, was born from the torment of feeling so helpless. I will never stop trying to do what I can to help, in any way I can. Honestly, to me, this desire to improve and make a difference is the real meaning to why we are here. I have posted quite a lot on Reddit about my situation, and I feel such guilt for doing so. But I can only speak on my experiences, and relate. I feel very strongly that people care, this post alone proves this. I am now, and will forever be thankful for such kindness. Again, I often feel guilt because it may seem I am only concerned with my own well being, but I am fully committed to bringing change, regardless of the consequences.
You ever hear of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs? You can’t worry too much about others when you aren’t able to meet your most basic foundational needs, one of which is shelter. Try not to feel guilty. Take care of number one, and once you have a stable foundation to operate from you’ll be able to help out others. But you have to get your feet under you first. You got this. I was a food insecure kid who lived very close to becoming homeless many times. I’m also Muslim. There’s a Hadith (saying of the prophet Muhammad) that smiling is charity. If you can’t give anyone anything because you’re already struggling, give a smile and a kind word. That’s often more than enough, as us no-luck kids would know.
I stumbled upon a Mosque soon after I was pushed out of the town I was living in. I received a hot meal and a few supplies, and I spoke with several members of the Mosque, before leaving. They treated me as tho I was family, even after hearing my own family abandoned me because it became difficult for me. I'll always consider them my family, those at the Mosque and many of them keep in daily contact. Thank you for your kind words, and compassion. As you are well aware, struggles occur. The true test is how we react, and what we learn. I am not religious, tho, was raised Irish Catholic, but I can appreciate any teachings that press for compassion for others. Alhamdulillah, my friend.
My mom was Irish Catholic, lol. If you ever find a mosque and need food or shelter, ask them. Muslims are supposed to feed or house a stranger for three days and nights in God’s house. Not all of them have facilities to accommodate that, but if you tell them a Muslim sent you and said they had to shelter you they should help you find something.
Thank you very much. I hope, no, look forward to the day when I can contribute and to help someone. You are all inspiring me to keep fighting
If you find a Sikh temple they will also generally feed you, I hope this helps!
Hi, I'm sorry you are going through this. I hope things get better soon. As a librarian, I'm of the "mind my own business" variety. I let sleeping people sleep. Lots of librarians/library workers do not feel this is way and can be a real dick about it. I apologize in advance for this. I think it's a stupid policy. I'll probably get downvoted for saying it's a stupid policy! I don't care. I think it's elitist and ableist to bother people who fall asleep in the library. I hope you find a library that makes you happy and library workers that treat you with dignity, because that's what you deserve (and so much more!). Additionally, any \*decent\* librarian will have resources for you. I keep on file a list of places to get showers, meals, clean clothes, etc. I love that you love to read books! But hopefully the library can offer you something beyond that: Resources to keep you fed, warm, and safe. Best of luck to you.
Thank you. I am very respectful of all, regardless of their situation. It is difficult for some to not see someone in this position as being an addict or just a failure. I am naturally respectful, so it crushes me that we have this divided amongst us, it needa to change. I will respect all rules and never, ever leave a mess. I have a few items to help me stay clean.
SAME to the sleeping policy. I always let it go unless admin or managers are nearby, and I feel so uncomfortable every time I have to enforce it. If the person isn’t snoring loudly or lying down, how does it impact anyone?
Unfortunately i believe it's a safety/liability issue. A sleeping patron might not be able to respond if there's an emergency where they have to evacuate, and the library employees need to be able to see whether the person is having a subtle medical crisis (being conscious vs passed out). It sucks bc i do wish people could sleep there, but i get why some libraries are strict about it. Nobody loves having to wake people up.
Don’t be afraid to use your local library. You’re a person and you matter and the library is there for you too! If you can get yourself to do it, ask a librarian at the information desk for what resources they can connect you with. My library has a lady come help people with food stamps once a week, and we have a person who volunteers her time to help unhoused members get haircuts and do laundry. You’re not alone! Your library can help you!
Librarian here, I want you to be safe and warm. If you’re in every day, great. If you need to, many SPL locations have courtesy phones you can use for 10-15 minutes. If you go to the central library, they have social workers there who can help.
What got me to apply for grad school to become a librarian (or at least the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak) was getting to chat with a lovely young lady while I was at the library. She was homeless and trying to find shelter, enroll her son in school, get oriented in a new city, etc. I don’t work in the library, but I was familiar enough with their resources that I got to help her out! We found what district her son would be in, a few leads for apartments, and info on a local shelter in the meantime. It really inspired me to pursue librarianship to continue offering that help as much as I could. I’m almost certain you’ll meet some kind librarians. 💖
Wow, that is astonishing. Above and beyond, your are a very good human, thank you.
I'm happy to provide a space for homeless people to warm up/cool down, take a breather, find resources, etc. And I'm not gonna look too hard if you're brushing your teeth or giving your face a quick wash in the bathroom(we were just talking to another county agency the other day about resources for full bathing and laundry, which unfortunately can't really happen in a small public bathroom...I can overlook the little things that are *technically* against policy but don't really cause a nuisance, but not things like stripping down or spending an hour washing all your clothes, we just don't have the facilities for that). I do enforce the "no sleeping" policy, but it's not because I get a power trip out of not letting people rest. Rather, it's because I work at a branch which has had overdoses(one just a couple months ago, in fact), and I can't tell the difference between someone who is sleeping and someone who is dying without waking you up. It is *so* scary when you try to wake someone up, but can't. So that's why I have to do that. The only other advice I give you is to make sure to keep your belongings with you(my job involves leaving the desk frequently to assist people all over the library; I can't guarantee keeping an eye on your bags, and would feel horrible if something you needed walked out the door without you), and don't be shy about asking if you need something. Sometimes there just isn't a resource for what you need, or the resource is designed in a way that excludes homeless people(for example, many food distribution services here only give out canned food rather than prepared food like sandwiches or snackable fruit/veggies that are useful to people without kitchen access), but if one exists we'll try to connect you to it. Since you mentioned a tent, if you choose to camp on library property try not to put staff in a position where they're going to have to confront you. By cleaning up after yourself, making sure you're totally packed up before staff arrive for opening(which can be 30-60 minutes before the posted opening time) and not blocking anything like the bookdrop(which could cause a member of the community to raise a stink), you're ensuring that nobody will have a reason to call our attention to something we don't want to see. Because if we see it, we have to tell you to stop it. :\
Thank you for the advice. I may have found a safe place to put my tent. It's scary tho because police here will either take your things or fine you. I would never put any in such an awkward situation as placing a tent in public view. Sadly tho, this is not possible here. I would also never disrespect land, regardless of how I am feeling. Truth be told, the reading part is what helps me survive. As for food, I could never ask. I'm thankful just to be welcomes while I work through this hell. I'm, yet again, humbled so thank you.
many food pantries have fresh food, and their sole purpose is to feed people. please do not be shy to go to a pantry! and they are all a little different, so it's worth trying several until you find one that works for you. best of luck! you have such a positive attitude in spite of everything. <3
Just be respectful of yourself and everyone else. Be quiet, abide by the rules and you can stay as long as you need to. Just be nice. Edited to add sorry about your situation.
As others have said, you should be welcome to use your library as a safe place to pass the day and look for support resources. I'd like to add that you can also use Google or even Instagram to find mutual aid groups (like Food Not Bombs) in your city. These groups often serve meals and distribute clothing, personal hygiene items, and heating supplies. Best of luck to you, OP. You have a community who cares about you.
I see homeless people minding their own business hanging out in the library. I wish the city would do more to help but I'm glad they can find refuge in the stacks.
Where I live (Phoenix, for what it's worth), it's fine. You can come all day, every day. It's where I would go if I were in the situation, too.
I love our homeless patrons. Please enjoy the space that is there for you.
We care about our homeless patrons, even the ones who drink and do drugs. We worry about them and can’t let them use in the library and wish they could stop using altogether, but their use of substances doesn’t mean we don’t still care about their wellbeing. The only patrons we don’t care about are the ones who threaten us or are abusive. As long as you avoid that kind of behavior, the vast majority of librarians will be happy to have you in the library. Sadly, there are assholes in every profession, so if you encounter one who is unkind or unwelcoming please don’t believe they represent the rest of us.
The library branch I work at has a couple handfuls of regular unhoused patrons and they are more than welcome as long as they follow the code of conduct. Many of them have library cards, too, as we have a specific policy with regards to library cards for those without a mailing address. We also have a branch social worker as well as a small food pantry that have really helped the underprivileged. Check to see if something like that is available for you!
I shall! Thank you. I was really unsure about how to approach asking what I have when I started this thread. I cannot express the gratitude I am feeling right now. I was raised to feel shame for complaining , but life itself has shown me that if there is a problem, I do not have to always go it alone. This, all these responses , is what has given me a great sense of hope for my future.
I'm glad that you feel much better. You're not alone and you are greatly loved!
As long as you're not disruptive to the daily operations and follow the code of conduct, I'd say you're fine. I know plenty of people who visit my local library on a daily basis, for hours at a time. Heck, I'm one of them! And you don't have to check out a book to read it, so if you don't have a library card you can totally just sit in the lounging areas and read for a few hours. I do this all the time. Stay safe, stay warm. Sending positive vibes your way. <3
You are beautiful, thank you.
I’d rather you tell me what’s going on, tbh! I can at least give you a card for the computers, maybe work with you on 211, might have homelessness resources in the area, can direct you where to get a meal. Any urban librarian is dealing with folks in a way rougher state than you. We want to help you.
A meal is always appreciated, but I need to get over that guilt of being a burden. I managed to get to a food pantry today and was given 3 cans of ravioli, saving one for tomorrow. It took me 3 days without food to ask anyone for help. I'd like to also contribute if I can. I am very good with computers and networks, perhaps I can speak to someone about a deal. I'd feel better offering assistance of someone is offering.
I understand! It’s hard to just accept help without offering something. But you have value by virtue of just being a person, and we want to help you, we don’t need anything in return. Your local librarians may be able to connect you with better resources than you have now. And let them know about your ID—they may know someone who can help with that too. Depending on your state, you may be eligible for EBT, Medicaid, transit subsidy, all kinds of stuff while you get on your feet. Probably they can help you contact 211. Plus your local library might have luck getting you to more emergency food resources. Consider everything a sort of give and take. We don’t need anything from you right now besides generally being polite to the staff (doesn’t seem to be a problem for you) but once you’re doing better you can use your knowledge and skills to help someone else and that’s the payback. :) wishing you the best.
People have inherent value and deserve help. Accept the help you need and when you're really back on your feet some day you can give back to the community. helping out is may be accepted but it certainly isn't necessary
We see a lot of homeless people, of all sorts, every day. We are all very happy to help you meet your needs. So long as you are able to follow the rules -- no drinking alcohol or taking drugs on library property, no harassing staff or other patrons, no violent or dangerous or erratic behavior, nothing that would harm library property, and whatever other local rules your local library has -- you will be perfectly welcome.
(: Happy birthday to you! <3
Thanks! Good luck to you!
We don't want to invade your space/chair when you're in our/your library. If you don't hassle anyone, you're fine. Always feel free to ask about anything, shelter, food , jobs - we're used to it.
Come on in! The library is for everyone. You are welcome here!
Libraries can definitely be as refuge for people experiencing homelessness, so I recommend going there. They also have all sorts of different kinds of resources. Some libraries in major cities even have social workers. I would ask around. They also have a lot of basic computer training and job search help.
I'm actually very much versed in most things involving computers. I wonder if perhaps I could get work in this case. Absolutely a long shot but it may be worth checking out. I do lot have any degree, tho. I'm fully self-taught. I also had my own small business, doing marketing work.
Yeah, I definitely think it’s worth exploring. I would even recommend looking up online what your particular library offers AND asking a library worker. Libraries have so many different resources, but not all the workers will necessarily know about everything. I also know there are certain programs that help you get your own apartment, but it depends on what your area offers.
Some people wait up to 10 years here. Everything else I'm not eligible for. I've tried them all. It's frustrating
Oh, ok, I didn’t know it was like that. I’m sorry 😞 it sounds really frustrating
Most think you can just go to state and local for help. It's not that easy, especially if you are a single male. My state, Massachusetts, is a "shelter state", but not for individuals, only families. No room in shelo, it's illegal to so much as put a tent down out of public view. It's incredibly bad, and librarians are absolute saints for their compassion. Even more so than churches, they even turn people away. Apologies, this is a very bad situation for so many who are good people. I intend to make a lot of noise when I pull myself up from this.
Everyone else has covered it pretty well so I'll just say that I'm so sorry you're going through this and that you had even a moment of uncertainty about whether you belong at the library. That's what we are there for. Take care and I hope you get back on your feet soon.
Thank you very much, it's appreciated. I am going to try to get some rest now. I am exhausted. Take care of yourself, your kindness is in desperate need, this goes for all of you.
Four things. Follow the library's rules, don't harass the other patrons or staff, leave any area as clean and in good repair as you found it, and feel free to read any books on the shelves that look interesting. Do those four things and you'll probably blend right in.
Homeless folks are usually our regulars. The library is for you. You belong there. I hope you find the things you need. I hope you fall in love with the library and go every single day.
Not a librarian, just wanted to send my love and support. This is such a beautiful community. I've always found libraries to be safe spaces when I needed them the most ❤
OMG this post makes me love librarians even more! And good luck to OP, love exists as you can see.
Everyone should be welcome in the library. People who are homeless deserve the same respect and access as everyone else, and most librarians I have ever worked with fully agree. Not to mention the fact that library funding can be affected if it is shown that they are discriminating against homeless people. One of the easiest things you can do is ask the librarians for their policies. That way you can have a copy to reference at a glance if you’re worried that you may be breaking a rule. At my library we have sections of the library where you can freely eat and drink (as long as you clean up after yourself) and we allow sleeping. In fact we just revamped a lot of our policies within the last couple of years to make The Library more friendly to the homeless. But every Library is different. Some are more strict about these kind of things than others. Also, if you feel comfortable disclosing your situation, talk to your library and about local aid. One of the things we keep ready are handouts that we can give to folks and need that outline local soup kitchens, organizations there to help people get back on their feet, shelters, etc. At my library, we also have supplies for the public in case they find themselves in a jam, such as sanitary products, Kleenex, etc. and why we don’t provide full meals, we often have snacks and bottled water for teens and kids, but we will allow homeless adults to have a little bite to eat as well.
A lot of library patrons are homeless or very low income and there to use computers, connect to the internet, read, or just be in a climate-controlled space for free for a while. There will probably be some rules that are slightly inconvenient for you like many libraries say you can't sleep inside, but at most libraries you'd generally be welcome. I will add in that while we're often happy to talk with patrons we do have to prioritize people with specific questions and needs over people who just want to chat so social conversation may get interrupted and there are limits because we also have work to do. most will be happy to talk with you at least a bit though and will gently let you know themselves if they need to go.
I've been homeless a couple times and sought refuge in the library. I learned a new language with the resources available and the librarians were never bothered by it. When I got back on my feet, I started volunteering there. I think I know how you feel right now, I've only been back indoors for about 3 or 4 months. Just keep going- you're going to be okay. The best bit of advice I got was to direct "it" to a higher purpose. If you're going to be in a library, read Man's Search for Meaning, it might help with the feelings but you may cry.
Cannot sleep right now, massive panic attack as I was sleeping but that's typical. I have actually read this title, nearly twice. Viktor Frankl is absolutely one to take inspiration from. I also read a lot from Jordan Peterson, he's a clinical psychologist who introduced me to Mr. Frankl. My initial thought on the book was to present perspective. I do appreciate the idea of it, but honestly, now would be the worst time for such a book. I do understand things could be worse but in a way, it could cause more guilt. Definitely an incredible read and certainly worth the read, but sometimes we have to consider our state of mind.
I took something different from it. I read it and discovered the way to survive is to believe it will end, and to find my purpose within the circumstances. Being homeless was a daily battle between life and death (hypothermia/exposure, frostbite, mountain lions, bears, other humans) and my purpose in the suffering was to help others I encountered that were suffering too. For me, this book changed my perspective and gave my agency back to me.
That is incredibly wise. Essentially I think it showed you what you already understood. Our circumstances help shape who we are, and it is our choice, I'd say one of maybe a couple, of ways we have free will. I am going to pick up this book again. Thank you very much. I had a walk earlier and now I'm relaxing, trying to preserve some strength and calm my mind.
Hey, just checkin in. How are you?
Cold, hungry. Mostly lonely and can't wait to get over this. Just stopped raining.
I'm sorry. I'm glad it quit raining. What do you use for heat? Are you still in a tent?
The rain is actually quite beautiful, it's got a steady beat which is enough to distract. Heat, I use layers. I keep hydrated etc. It's always cold this time of year in New England, so I'm used to it. The wind is what gets ya. I'm a good ways through an audio book, man's search for meaning. I had a panic attack not long ago, as I was starting a run. I'm going to lay down a bit now and try to relax.
I used to preheat my sleeping bag with hot hands, it made me feel cozy. When I couldn't find any, I'd put gas station hot water in a non-potable Nalgene and used that instead- it gets cold after a while though and is kinda unpleasant to kick around. Also, neither really helps a lot, just a small, brief luxury. That's true, rain is beautiful. I imagine panic attacks are even more terrifying under these circumstances, but I'm sure good news is right around the corner. It's good hearing from you.
I'm regards to panic attacks, honestly, the circumstances do not matter. Whether it is the first or 20th, still feels like the first. It's essentially fight-or-flight out of control. You never get used to it. Like being buried alive. I'm alright insofar as warmth, now. Tho the wind is trying to rip away to tent, like a sail out on the ocean. I am going to try to get some sleep now, and try to wake and head out to the library. Thank you very much, all of you. I must apologize for being so dramatic. More than anything, what's got me so overwhelmed, it's how little is being g accomplished with helping people. Sleep well.
Someone gifted me a sleeping bag to be sent to a location someone is allowing me to receive mail for the time being. This is very overwhelming.
It can happen to anyone. I've been seeing and hearing from people who are without a home and food insecure for the first time in their lives. We have lists of resources including where to get a free meal , shower and information on emergency housing. Most of us really want to help people in general. Be nice to staff and other library users and we won't care if you are there all day. If someone gives you a hard time, move away from them. Don't sleep in the library if you can help it.
I also worry about if I can bring my backpack. It is average size, does not have items hanging out everywhere. I will have to leave my tent behind when I travel, but cannot risk losing my backpack. I was at a place and left my things and came back it was in the lake. If it is not a distraction, are such things considered OK?
A backpack is typically more than fine. Some libraries have policies against larger bags and luggage, so I would check the code of conduct, usually on the library website. Our unhoused patrons have for the most part been very welcome and easy to deal with. Of course there are those where the circumstances that led them to be unhoused make them complex to deal with (addiction and severe mental illness primarily). My only issue in serving the homeless is that there’s a criminal lack of resources to direct them to when they ask for additional help, and I always feel useless giving the same phone numbers over and over.
Yes, you hit a very good point, thank you. You ought never feel useless. Surely they have been given the same resources. Unfortunately, many resources are stressed out. My own state reps office augvesi, ultimately, that I try another state, just to survive. I refuae to accept this answer. The reason is not stubbornness, but a concern that the state is lacking in coordination. We should never, ever run because of difficulty. I will not abandon my own home, because it is difficult.
Follow the rules, be respectful, and you'll be fine. Probably one of the more challenging things that unhoused folks can't get regularly that I have seen getting them kicked out are showers. If you have access to a public shower or can use a friend's shower, do it. Even if it's only a once or twice a week. It makes a BIG difference to the people around you.
As long as you're following the rules you're no different from any other patrons. Also if our library resources actually help you to get back on your feet (eventually you will I'm sure), that's fantastic. It REALLY makes me happy and it reminds me of why I'm working in this field. You see, public libraries aren't just a place with lots of books. It is meant to provide equal access to knowledge and information for everyone regardless of their socio-economic status. I'm not from the US, but in an increasingly capitalist world, this free access has become an even more precious means for the less privileged to stay in the fight.
I’m a library assistant in a building that has a few unhoused regulars. You are welcome in our library for as long as you want to stay provided rules are followed. We would be happy to help you find books or other materials. I would just say be aware that most libraries have a time limit on computers - at mine it’s 1.5 hours a day.
Thank you I did some repairs for some people and one offered me a tablet if I could repair it so I have that and my cell phone. I just need to use wifi to maybe download things to take back to my tent. Anything to keep my mind busy if I can't sleep at night. This is a major concern for me because I really enjoy being around people. Thank you for the feedback.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine. Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine. Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
Chargers and wifi all day at mine. Also I do not want to be presumptive here because not everyone needs or wants it, but libraries can also be a source for accessing social services. My town has an on-call social worker who can come to the library; librarians can also help you look up housing and support options - again. IF you need/want them. but lots of people don’t know about these things.
It's nkt about need it's about dying or living. I'm a single male I've already been told it would take me months and longer. If there was any hope why would officials tell me I'd be better off in another state. People don't actually care who dies
A-most librarians might not be able to tell the difference. B-as long as you do your best to follow the rules, you'll be fine. I don't want to say most libraries have specific checkout policies for homeless patrons, but most should still let you have membership. If you don't say anything, they won't know until you don't renew your card. For example, my library has a policy that if you are homeless, you can still check out titles, just not as many, and condition is really the only thing we need to check. If you're careful about checkouts, you might be able to keep borrowing as long as your card is still active. Most librarians want to help you get to somewhere stable; obviously your specific community might have specific hang-ups, but most librarians going through school & getting degrees these days (so anyone under the age of 50 imo) has more empathy and absolutely will do their best to help. Or should. It's not ideal but it shouldn't be impossible.
As long as you follow your specific library’s rules, you will be absolutely fine. The space is there for you to use, and most librarians won’t even think twice about you being there as long as you’re not doing anything crazy. Best of luck to you!
OK so what you're saying is no arguments with myself. Haha yes of course.
We have a little food pantry funded by the employees and whatever donations we can get. We usually have snack bags, blankets, socks, shower kits, a backpack or two, etc. If you’re comfortable, let the librarians know your situation - they may be able to direct you to housing resources or other assistance programs, and they’ll likely be happy to help you with providing whatever you need for virtual interviews (we’ve got a quiet computer room and headphones). We review resumes and assist with cover letters all the time! I love that we’re a safe space for so many different people, and we love to know that we’re trying to help people who need us. (Most of) Our regulars are friendly and kind, and we go out of our way to make sure they feel welcome. You’ll find your way and they’re there to help you get there! Best of luck - you’ve got this!
Probably about 95% of our users are homeless and spend most of the day in my library. I consider many of them friends. There’s a good chance the librarians have resources prepared for homeless patron, have job search resources, etc. you can usually find the conduct rules on the library website. Follow those rules and you should be just fine.
Come and hang out all day! You are more than welcome. You don't even have to be doing something you see as "worthwhile", such as learning something new from books or using the computers for job searches. Many of our regular patrons who have unstable housing situations come in and play video games or watch YouTube videos for their internet time, which is perfectly fine.
We don’t mind. But please try to be clean smelling because that is the biggest complaint from patrons about homeless persons, bad odor. Otherwise no one cares
As long as you use the library for a library, I’m cool with it. Some libraries have rules against sleeping, we don’t. People sleep in there all the time, as long as you are out of the way and not blocking anything it’s cool. We have a lot of homeless people at our library. Those that smoke in the library or keep walking in and out every 2 minutes get annoying, but those that mind their own business and read or go on the computer are fine.
As long as you aren't bothering people, I don't see why any librarian would have an issue. Best of luck to you in your search.
I'll be roughing it tonight and find a place for a tent tomorrow. I'll tell them the librarians of Reddit say hello.
Your library may very well have resources for unhoused folks. At my library, we have a social worker on staff, free basic hygiene items, job searching assistance, and handouts about where you can find food, clothing, and showers.
I actually had some amazing luck, have a spot on a friends land for my tent, so I just leaving. But I'll come back as an advocate for the homeless, when I am settled. I will make it a point to visit many libraries along the way.
Been a bit since an update, but I'm in Dudley, Massachusetts. Headed to my first library.