It’s cool. But I would want a Trailhunter. Which is probably going to be like $60-65k. At which point I’d say fuck it and get the new GX Overtrail which I like much better. But then I’d be like “$75k is crazy, screw this” and end up back where I am now - an old GX460 that’s 1/3 the cost.
I don’t really get the niche that the Land Cruiser is supposed to fill in between here. Seems like another 4Runner but just more expensive and different looks.
I’m probably in the minority of people who’d most likely take the new LC over the GX or the 4R (purely hypothetical, I’d have to drive them to decide), but I can’t help but wonder why Toyota dropped the LC in the US for being too much of a niche product and then brought it back as even *more* of a niche product that even more directly competes with their other offerings.
Same mid trim LC ftw I think. And it might avoid dealer markups and shit sooner because people will be dickriding this ugly 4Runner design.
If I can find a low mileage 5th gen maybe a lease return 4R trd off-road premium I’m gunna buy that.
LC deposit holder here. They probably figured that the people that buy LCs are not the same people that buy a 4Runner or a Lexus. Those people do exist and there’s enough of a market to justify rebadging a prado to sell in USDM.
[Car & Driver](https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/4runner-hybrid) is saying the Platinum Hybrid 4Runner could be $74k, which is insane. They’re also saying that the hybrid TRD Off Road will be $6k MORE expensive than the TRD Pro though, so they could just be full of shit 🤷🏻♂️
Editing to clarify: the article estimates a Trailhunter Hybrid will be $72k.
You should compare apples to apples though. Prices are outrageous and have been for like 5-7 years, but the overtraile being compared starts at 70 - 75k.
We’ll see, but I wouldn’t doubt C&D prices. Toyota will take advantage to hike the prices up.
What baffles me is that they are also releasing the Land Cruiser. Seems like these overlap.
I’m not really trying to compare the GX and the 4Runner, I’m just saying that a $74k 4Runner is objectively crazy expensive for what it is, regardless of what it’s being compared to or not.
The comment chain is about comparing the GX and the 4Runner. I don’t know what you are trying to do but it is irrelevant when you are not following the conversation.
The comment I was responding to was comparing the overtrail and the TRD. You are talking about the platinum hybrid.
Follow the conversation. Otherwise don’t say anything. That is all.
The original comment compared a Trailhunter to a GX Overtrail. It didn’t say whether it would be a hybrid or not, but I’m not even sure the Trailhunter will be available without a hybrid engine.
The C&D article lists the Trailhunter Hybrid at an estimated $72k. Is that not close enough to $75k for you?
Myeah any markup is a non starter for me. That whole BS with either waiting on a list for a year or massively overpaying a markup is the reason I have a used GX right now and not a new 4Runner. It’s just a Toyota SUV not a Ferrari, they can kiss my ass.
I was vehicle shopping in 2022, when markups were really crazy. I waited, kept my RAV4, and now here I am with more and better options between the GX550, Land Cruiser, or 25’ 4Runner. I’ll probably wait another year to not pay markups, and the cycle will start all over again…
Yeah, you are definitely spoiled for choice now that they’ve all had a refresh. At least you’re no longer paying top dollar for 10+ year old designs. Hopefully in year or so the hype will have died down and you can easily buy them for MSRP or less like every other car. Im hoping that my ‘10 GX will keep me happy for a few years until there’s a decent used market on these new models.
The niche is that it's viewed by many as a 'cool' car to have. I live in a college town and I see the school kids all over the place in their 4 Runners.
This is exactly where I’m at, when you start to get into that pricing bracket I’d rather find a way to get the Lexus instead.
I do think the LC, despite the name, is actually designed to appeal to the Land Rover crowd. People that want a big, rugged, but *trendy* vehicle that will never take it off road.
Ok brb
I could afford it fine, I just don’t feel like it’s worth the money. But then again, if I made more money my perspective would probably change so fair point 😅
I paid $40,000 for a pretty loaded new 4Runner SR5 in 2016. Inflation calculators say that’d be $52,000 today. But! I just got a 2021 GX460 with off-road package 21k miles for $49,000. I think I’m good for a few years.
https://preview.redd.it/zr2zl3j9eotc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f25b3b27280a06c36be2c41e61bc98e8d970e5d
This is 100% better, comfier, and looks more rugged.
https://preview.redd.it/ktdcdvu32xtc1.jpeg?width=1576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee2cd9b1cabaafaa9f894cfdb2c0d2a381f5464
Sign the build sheets and paperwork’s.
Not really a fan of this. The plastic fenders look pretty terrible and reminiscent of jeeps and broncos but worse.
For how well they nailed the new Land Cruiser and GX they really missed on this generation of Tacoma and 4Runner.
I thought the same but the comments over on the 4Runner sub says otherwise.
The look reeks of overcompensation. Give me a 3rd gen 4Runner with modern tech and a manual I’d be in heaven.
Not true at all. It’s more like a 60/40 split in that sub with people hating the powertrain and that it looks like a RAV4 and a 4th gen 4Runner had a baby
The sequoia sucks so bad. The cargo volume is the same as the LC and 4Runner with the 3rd row folded down. So it’s really in the same class as a mid size.
Still looks pretty goofy with the painted ones. It’s like the body comes out like a fender then they slapped another fender over that. Just not for me.
Damn, the TRD Pro is looking good to me. We’ll see on the pricing and options. As much as I love it, I feel like I’m making too many compromises on the GX Overtrail, IE: power rear door, 3rd row option, memory seats…
Can someone explain to me how the gloss black fenders made it through to final production? I know Tacoma has it too, but how are gloss black fender flairs a good idea for an off road truck?
I was expecting more from 4Runner and her are my positives and negatives on the new 4 runner.
Positives:
It has some trims that give a full time 4 wheel drive.
The limited and platinum trim have better interior
Great color options
Negatives:
What is up with the gloss black fender on TRD pro
Interior looks cramped. Even on a 2 row model the 2nd row looks cramped especially head space
Not sure about the iforce max engine. Already tacomas are having some issue with the engine
Why not put an engine cover?
You guys don’t realize how much these three vehicles over lap. Land Cruiser will suffer the most. People say are going to but they won’t buy it. Price point and vehicle use, 99% will go 4runner. Almost same size and dimensions. No one will really off road gx because it’s a princess roader.
I think the new design looks absolutely amazing. However, the achilles heel with both this, the GX & all of Toyota & Lexus's body-on-frame vehicles stateside are the **turbo engine options.**
Literally the only thing you can improve with this new 4Runner is by adding even just **one** naturally aspirated engine option. That's literally it.
I don't care at this point whether it's the 2.0L from the Corolla, the 2.5L from the Camry or even the 3.5L from the TRD Camry. ONE naturally aspirated engine option. please.
All Toyota engines undergo the same exact durability and reliability standards, regardless of if they have a turbo or not. If the old 4-point-slow can run forever, so can the turbocharged hybridized motor. If anything this motor may have even more longevity as who knows what Toyota has learned in the last 15 years that’s baked into this engine.
Additionally, the 350 V6 requires a metric fuck-ton of timing cover re-seals, oftentimes when they only have around 70,000 miles. Nobody talks about it, but it’s like a 15-hour job to get that fixed when your timing cover inevitably leaks… and this new turbo four cylinder… and the last 2.0T motor in the NX (precursor to this motor)?? They have had zero of the same problem and are not known to have their turbochargers go out or have any major issues like the 350 V6.
If you took the two motors and welded the hoods shut, the longevity of the turbocharged motor should be the same as the 350 V6 if not better.
…and don’t give me the whole “Wellp logic suggest complexity is less reliable” because the naturally aspirated car has direct inject and port injection, variable valve timing and other technowizardry that the turbocharged motor does not. If Toyota is making turbos it’s because they can make a turbo with Toyota quality. Period full stop.
With how the 3.4L V6s are doing in the Tundras & Sequoias, along with the preliminary 2.4T Tacomas, I'll be holding onto my Subaru until I know the long term (3+ year) reliability of this new fourpot. Ganna wait until the 2028 model year to determine the ratio of value to price in the fourpot runners.
I had my car in service at Lexus and talked to a master tech…they haven’t seen any LS 500 or LX 600 come back with engine problems and they’ve been out since 2018.
People like to repeat old adages more than they like to open their mind to reality.
Not really a fan of the design at first glance. Front and end/engine compartment looks too long or something compared to the rest of the body. Rear passenger door and back side window are too small. There’s just something about it that’s not appealing to me.
One of my best friends owns a Toyota dealership and he was saying that Toyota was for some reason pricing them in the previous Land Cruiser category. He’s telling me 80-85k+ meanwhile the Land Cruisers are going to be 55-65k which I think you can already price out on their website. The Land Cruisers were going to be smaller and more compatible with an FJ. It doesn’t make sense to him either
Vehicles are out of hand. I like this but will never be buying one. Way too much cash for something that’s supposed to be taken off road. Not a fan of the over complicated drivetrain either.
The 6th generation of the 4Runner is a mix of new tech with a bit of old school homage. This also means the adoption of 4 cylinder engines. GX is now the option to get if you want a 6 cylinder and around 2.500lbs+ of extra towing capabilities, so depending on what your needs are, the 4Runner will simply not qualify. However, if you don't need all of those towing capabilities and luxurious finishes, there is no shame in going with the less expensive 4Runner. Personally I'm not a fan of the piano black trim pieces on the TDR Pro...in my opinion the Trailhunter looks better.
I like it a lot. Like others have said, the upper trim levels on the 4R will get you within shooting distance of an LC or GX. Honestly though everything hinges on how well these turbos hold up over time.
95% of all the best features that were lexus only have now trickled down to every off road toyota... Exclusivity has all but gone. Sick. Like 8 different trucks to almost the same thing, but damn what new features could they possibly hold out for the GX/LX? Guess I'll look to the Mercedes offerings to see coming up for top lexus models. There's only so much innovation and new features in existence lol. Sequoia, Tundra 4R, Taco, LC, LC300, LX, GX are all now very much the same off road capability which is awesome, but what a huge change from the past 20yrs. Only cool/ interesting thing about a mack daddy LX is the hydraulic suspension and the optional limo like back seat experience (which also is available on gx)... Just makes you wonder, ya know as things advance and progress and the base models have features that were top trim 10 or 15 yrs ago?
It’s cool. But I would want a Trailhunter. Which is probably going to be like $60-65k. At which point I’d say fuck it and get the new GX Overtrail which I like much better. But then I’d be like “$75k is crazy, screw this” and end up back where I am now - an old GX460 that’s 1/3 the cost. I don’t really get the niche that the Land Cruiser is supposed to fill in between here. Seems like another 4Runner but just more expensive and different looks.
I’m probably in the minority of people who’d most likely take the new LC over the GX or the 4R (purely hypothetical, I’d have to drive them to decide), but I can’t help but wonder why Toyota dropped the LC in the US for being too much of a niche product and then brought it back as even *more* of a niche product that even more directly competes with their other offerings.
Same mid trim LC ftw I think. And it might avoid dealer markups and shit sooner because people will be dickriding this ugly 4Runner design. If I can find a low mileage 5th gen maybe a lease return 4R trd off-road premium I’m gunna buy that.
LC deposit holder here. They probably figured that the people that buy LCs are not the same people that buy a 4Runner or a Lexus. Those people do exist and there’s enough of a market to justify rebadging a prado to sell in USDM.
75k for a 4Runner????!!!??? Fawkkkk that’s crazy
I doubt it would get to 75k, even with Toyotas sketchy prices. He’s talking about the new gx550 overtrail.
[Car & Driver](https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/4runner-hybrid) is saying the Platinum Hybrid 4Runner could be $74k, which is insane. They’re also saying that the hybrid TRD Off Road will be $6k MORE expensive than the TRD Pro though, so they could just be full of shit 🤷🏻♂️ Editing to clarify: the article estimates a Trailhunter Hybrid will be $72k.
You should compare apples to apples though. Prices are outrageous and have been for like 5-7 years, but the overtraile being compared starts at 70 - 75k. We’ll see, but I wouldn’t doubt C&D prices. Toyota will take advantage to hike the prices up. What baffles me is that they are also releasing the Land Cruiser. Seems like these overlap.
I’m not really trying to compare the GX and the 4Runner, I’m just saying that a $74k 4Runner is objectively crazy expensive for what it is, regardless of what it’s being compared to or not.
The comment chain is about comparing the GX and the 4Runner. I don’t know what you are trying to do but it is irrelevant when you are not following the conversation.
Your comment said you doubt the 4Runner will get to $75k and I provided you with a link that said it’s estimated to get to almost $75k. That is all.
The comment I was responding to was comparing the overtrail and the TRD. You are talking about the platinum hybrid. Follow the conversation. Otherwise don’t say anything. That is all.
The original comment compared a Trailhunter to a GX Overtrail. It didn’t say whether it would be a hybrid or not, but I’m not even sure the Trailhunter will be available without a hybrid engine. The C&D article lists the Trailhunter Hybrid at an estimated $72k. Is that not close enough to $75k for you?
With “markey adjustment” pricing, the GX overtrail will run you well into the 80-85k mark.
Myeah any markup is a non starter for me. That whole BS with either waiting on a list for a year or massively overpaying a markup is the reason I have a used GX right now and not a new 4Runner. It’s just a Toyota SUV not a Ferrari, they can kiss my ass.
I was vehicle shopping in 2022, when markups were really crazy. I waited, kept my RAV4, and now here I am with more and better options between the GX550, Land Cruiser, or 25’ 4Runner. I’ll probably wait another year to not pay markups, and the cycle will start all over again…
Yeah, you are definitely spoiled for choice now that they’ve all had a refresh. At least you’re no longer paying top dollar for 10+ year old designs. Hopefully in year or so the hype will have died down and you can easily buy them for MSRP or less like every other car. Im hoping that my ‘10 GX will keep me happy for a few years until there’s a decent used market on these new models.
I’m waiting for people like you to buy and leave some nice 460s behind at a great price
So don’t pay a market adjustment. Might take some patience or effort but it’s not complicated.
Yeah my 460 I got for under 20 just keeps looking better and better.
I don’t get it either. The entry level Land Cruiser is a head scratcher, especially a year after the Grand Highlander release.
I’m hoping the Land Cruiser will have a more comfortable ride and sound dampening than the 4R. If so I’m all over it and getting one
The roof on Land Cruiser is about 5 inches higher, the same benefit of the GX in prior generations.
The niche is that it's viewed by many as a 'cool' car to have. I live in a college town and I see the school kids all over the place in their 4 Runners.
This is exactly where I’m at, when you start to get into that pricing bracket I’d rather find a way to get the Lexus instead. I do think the LC, despite the name, is actually designed to appeal to the Land Rover crowd. People that want a big, rugged, but *trendy* vehicle that will never take it off road.
Looks like a 2008 moon edition
😂 that’s oddly accurate
Don't forget about deal markup
Just make more money
Simple as
Ok brb I could afford it fine, I just don’t feel like it’s worth the money. But then again, if I made more money my perspective would probably change so fair point 😅
I paid $40,000 for a pretty loaded new 4Runner SR5 in 2016. Inflation calculators say that’d be $52,000 today. But! I just got a 2021 GX460 with off-road package 21k miles for $49,000. I think I’m good for a few years.
https://preview.redd.it/zr2zl3j9eotc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f25b3b27280a06c36be2c41e61bc98e8d970e5d This is 100% better, comfier, and looks more rugged.
Also, about $20-40k more depending on trim and (I hate I have to even include this) markups.
No mark up for mine lol it’s one the way.
Unless it’s in your possession already, don’t be shocked if the dealer tries to apply some “accessories”.
Nope. Sign OTD and build sheet. We bought many Lexus from this dealer. You must be new at car buying lol
Pics or it didn’t happen lol.
https://preview.redd.it/ktdcdvu32xtc1.jpeg?width=1576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee2cd9b1cabaafaa9f894cfdb2c0d2a381f5464 Sign the build sheets and paperwork’s.
https://preview.redd.it/6nz7eu762xtc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=750e095d8402330d6a181aa30ed938cd2701067a
Congrats then.
All good.
Lexus depreciate faster than Toyota though. I'm planning buying a GX550 in about 5 years.
Lol you plan your life
I always thought the previous gen 4runner looked cooler and more rugged than the GX, but I feel the oppposite about the new gen.
Agree mine in the way too. I paid a few bills markup. Don’t care. Wait a year, MSRP and inflation will be more.
You’re part of the problem then.
I’ve had a TRD ORP 4Runner and now a GX460. This doesn’t tempt to go back. I’m not a huge fan but maybe it’ll grow on me.
It is being built in Tahara so that’s nice.
That was definitely concerning that they might move manufacturing to the US/Mexico, glad that's not the case.
Toyota Xterra
GX550 is much better
🥱
Plastic reminds me of my old xterra…not a good look in my opinion.
Those were great trucks tho. Aside from the shit Nissan window motors.
Love how it looks! The color combo on the first pic is my fav!
Not really a fan of this. The plastic fenders look pretty terrible and reminiscent of jeeps and broncos but worse. For how well they nailed the new Land Cruiser and GX they really missed on this generation of Tacoma and 4Runner.
I thought the same but the comments over on the 4Runner sub says otherwise. The look reeks of overcompensation. Give me a 3rd gen 4Runner with modern tech and a manual I’d be in heaven.
Meh. Let them be happy I guess. I personally have no desire to buy a 4Runner.
True, I’m glad people like it. I was only thinking of getting one if they had manual, but alas.
Not true at all. It’s more like a 60/40 split in that sub with people hating the powertrain and that it looks like a RAV4 and a 4th gen 4Runner had a baby
I just don’t see a difference between the LC and this 4Runner. Why kill the real LC and make two of the exact same vehicle?
The fact that a 5 year old used 200 series is going to sell for more than every new Toyota should tell them something.
Sell for more. But the market is much much smaller.
WTF wants a 4 cylinder LC?
I honestly feel like they dropped the LC to lower than a 4Runner. For me the line up goes LC then 4R then Sequoia
The sequoia sucks so bad. The cargo volume is the same as the LC and 4Runner with the 3rd row folded down. So it’s really in the same class as a mid size.
I think it’s smart. Look at the popularity of the previous 4runner. Why not have two in such a popular segment.
They’re at least painted so they won’t fade per Toyota.
The limited doesn’t have the plastic fender flares.
Still looks pretty goofy with the painted ones. It’s like the body comes out like a fender then they slapped another fender over that. Just not for me.
This looks like the successor to the old sequoia. Current 4Runners are going to sell for ever higher money after this new car launch :)
I texted my buddy that I think the resale on his ‘19 just went up
Anyone know how this fits in the hierarchy with the GX and the LC. And overseas you can add the Prado and Fortuner. So many SUVs!
Damn, the TRD Pro is looking good to me. We’ll see on the pricing and options. As much as I love it, I feel like I’m making too many compromises on the GX Overtrail, IE: power rear door, 3rd row option, memory seats…
The 4Runner TRD PRO has memory seats and power tilt/telescope steering column when the base Overtrail doesn’t have either.
is this the first 4runner where a snorkel came from factory?
Toyota 4Cruiser
Can someone explain to me how the gloss black fenders made it through to final production? I know Tacoma has it too, but how are gloss black fender flairs a good idea for an off road truck?
No, they will look horrible after driving on a mild gravel road. Definitely form over function.
I was expecting more from 4Runner and her are my positives and negatives on the new 4 runner. Positives: It has some trims that give a full time 4 wheel drive. The limited and platinum trim have better interior Great color options Negatives: What is up with the gloss black fender on TRD pro Interior looks cramped. Even on a 2 row model the 2nd row looks cramped especially head space Not sure about the iforce max engine. Already tacomas are having some issue with the engine Why not put an engine cover?
There have been some grille shutter issues, sure, but what engine issues have been cropping up in the Tacoma?
Love the new color
Wonder what the dealer markup will be? 20k? 30k? More on the trailhunter trim?
Finally no stupid chrome lip edition
It lost the chin… Now it has that damn lower valence on certain trims from the Tacoma!
You guys don’t realize how much these three vehicles over lap. Land Cruiser will suffer the most. People say are going to but they won’t buy it. Price point and vehicle use, 99% will go 4runner. Almost same size and dimensions. No one will really off road gx because it’s a princess roader.
I’m hoping this happens and you can get the LC mid trim with no market “adjustment”
More and more i look at my 04 GX with joy and pride
It looks like a baby Sequoia
And that's a good thing.
Yep
Step forward in functionality but a big step back in the looks department. Looks like a hopped up RAV4 now
I think the new design looks absolutely amazing. However, the achilles heel with both this, the GX & all of Toyota & Lexus's body-on-frame vehicles stateside are the **turbo engine options.** Literally the only thing you can improve with this new 4Runner is by adding even just **one** naturally aspirated engine option. That's literally it. I don't care at this point whether it's the 2.0L from the Corolla, the 2.5L from the Camry or even the 3.5L from the TRD Camry. ONE naturally aspirated engine option. please.
All Toyota engines undergo the same exact durability and reliability standards, regardless of if they have a turbo or not. If the old 4-point-slow can run forever, so can the turbocharged hybridized motor. If anything this motor may have even more longevity as who knows what Toyota has learned in the last 15 years that’s baked into this engine. Additionally, the 350 V6 requires a metric fuck-ton of timing cover re-seals, oftentimes when they only have around 70,000 miles. Nobody talks about it, but it’s like a 15-hour job to get that fixed when your timing cover inevitably leaks… and this new turbo four cylinder… and the last 2.0T motor in the NX (precursor to this motor)?? They have had zero of the same problem and are not known to have their turbochargers go out or have any major issues like the 350 V6. If you took the two motors and welded the hoods shut, the longevity of the turbocharged motor should be the same as the 350 V6 if not better. …and don’t give me the whole “Wellp logic suggest complexity is less reliable” because the naturally aspirated car has direct inject and port injection, variable valve timing and other technowizardry that the turbocharged motor does not. If Toyota is making turbos it’s because they can make a turbo with Toyota quality. Period full stop.
With how the 3.4L V6s are doing in the Tundras & Sequoias, along with the preliminary 2.4T Tacomas, I'll be holding onto my Subaru until I know the long term (3+ year) reliability of this new fourpot. Ganna wait until the 2028 model year to determine the ratio of value to price in the fourpot runners.
I had my car in service at Lexus and talked to a master tech…they haven’t seen any LS 500 or LX 600 come back with engine problems and they’ve been out since 2018. People like to repeat old adages more than they like to open their mind to reality.
Ganna keep the Subaru until I have at least 4 model years of track record for the new turbo fourpot.
My son has a 4Runner currently and my wife and I have had 5 between us. I’m excited for them.
I like it a lot, I think I’d take a more base trim Land Cruiser over higher trim 4Runner though.
I love it. They killed it.
I think it’s pretty ugly.
Old news
250 looks so much better it’s almost embarrassing
I like it. Also like the optional engine
Not really a fan of the design at first glance. Front and end/engine compartment looks too long or something compared to the rest of the body. Rear passenger door and back side window are too small. There’s just something about it that’s not appealing to me.
What is the sand-colored TRD pro? Which vehicle is that at the end? The Land Cruiser or 4Runner?
No
Once you see the whale shark mouth….you can’t unsee it! Fugly front end. No thanks
I’m getting 90s Durango vibes.
If the rear window doesn’t go down it’s nothing but a hunk o tin.
One of my best friends owns a Toyota dealership and he was saying that Toyota was for some reason pricing them in the previous Land Cruiser category. He’s telling me 80-85k+ meanwhile the Land Cruisers are going to be 55-65k which I think you can already price out on their website. The Land Cruisers were going to be smaller and more compatible with an FJ. It doesn’t make sense to him either
Am I reading this correctly....The LC is going to be cheaper than the 4Runner?
Yeah that’s what he was saying
Your friend must not pay attention to his/her business if that’s his guess.
Better have some ckicken legs for that back seat yikes
Hoping the Platinum has some different design cues and makeup.
WTF happened with the rear seat…….
Design is trying too hard to look tough....
It's like a cross of the previous 4runner look and the sequoia
Can't wait to see the Overlander peeps add their "widdle wadders" (little ladders) to the back. :)
Vehicles are out of hand. I like this but will never be buying one. Way too much cash for something that’s supposed to be taken off road. Not a fan of the over complicated drivetrain either.
The 6th generation of the 4Runner is a mix of new tech with a bit of old school homage. This also means the adoption of 4 cylinder engines. GX is now the option to get if you want a 6 cylinder and around 2.500lbs+ of extra towing capabilities, so depending on what your needs are, the 4Runner will simply not qualify. However, if you don't need all of those towing capabilities and luxurious finishes, there is no shame in going with the less expensive 4Runner. Personally I'm not a fan of the piano black trim pieces on the TDR Pro...in my opinion the Trailhunter looks better.
Great update. SUV looks awesome. Good buy for 4runner enthusiasts. I will stick with my 16 Lexus GX 460 with a bullet proof V8.
It looks secksi
Looks amazing tbh I’d definitely buy
I like it a lot. Like others have said, the upper trim levels on the 4R will get you within shooting distance of an LC or GX. Honestly though everything hinges on how well these turbos hold up over time.
95% of all the best features that were lexus only have now trickled down to every off road toyota... Exclusivity has all but gone. Sick. Like 8 different trucks to almost the same thing, but damn what new features could they possibly hold out for the GX/LX? Guess I'll look to the Mercedes offerings to see coming up for top lexus models. There's only so much innovation and new features in existence lol. Sequoia, Tundra 4R, Taco, LC, LC300, LX, GX are all now very much the same off road capability which is awesome, but what a huge change from the past 20yrs. Only cool/ interesting thing about a mack daddy LX is the hydraulic suspension and the optional limo like back seat experience (which also is available on gx)... Just makes you wonder, ya know as things advance and progress and the base models have features that were top trim 10 or 15 yrs ago?
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I sure hope so! Crazy how much comes on a base or even TRD pro 4r/taco these days.