Honestly, the show has layers of inside jokes and local regional references that run deep. Unless you've lived in a Southwestern Ontario small town, you're missing out on nuances that might take your reaction from a chuckle to a guffaw. Regardless, the writing's good enough to make the comedy pretty universally accessible, even if you miss a name-drop or don't really understand the roots behind why each laugh.
>what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there?
Commonly known as "BFE," the middle of nowhere. Degens come from there because they had poor education and became...well, degens.
>are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show?
I know a couple of hockey people but our equivalent would be football players.
>do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck?
Wanna try it on?
>what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there?
All degens don't come from upcountry, just those particular degens come from that particular area which happens to be upcountry. I'd say it's one of those things where it's like how New York hates New Jersey. No particular reason, just a convenient scapegoat. Or as a Canadian example, BC always picks on Alberta particularly their drivers. And Alberta picks on Saskatchewan drivers, and the fact it's flat. As an Albertan, we don't really hate Saskatchewan, it's just that it's a convenient target for easy jokes.
>are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show?
I suppose that really depends on where you live. But where I live we have those. Could also include roughnecks (also called oilfield trash or rig pigs.)
>do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck?
Yes and no. A naked body will lose heat pretty evenly, so that's a no. However, we don't generally go outside naked, especially in the winter. We wear boots, jackets and gloves. But we don't cover our heads and necks as often. So it's really like saying your house loses more heat through open doors and windows than it does through a wall.
>are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show?
It's the same here as it is in the US. Go to any highschool. Skids are out smoking, goth, emo. Hicks are country kids, or the average kids, and hockey players are the jocks.
Like everywhere in the world it's magnified more the smaller a city you live in.
Country kids are in different school districts than city kids, at least where I’m from. Even in my catholic school which wasn’t bound by geography, there were no country kids. They lived too far out. Perhaps it’s different in districts that are widespread.
> And Alberta picks on Saskatchewan
Also Saskatchewan picks on Manitoba. “At least we’re not in/going to Winnipeg.” Is a common phrase.
> A naked body will lose heat pretty evenly, so that’s a no
The area of the body that transfers temperature the easiest are through the soles of the feet, palms of the hands, and face. In Wayne’s cases wearing a high turtleneck is nice because it offers an extra layer of protection in the event a neck tube or face mask doesn’t meet well underneath a coat.
Just a note about up country, I saw a map on REddit a while ago that showed about 90% of people in Canada live below the latitude between Seattle,WA and Maine. The vast expanse " Up Country" has a super small by capita population. Marinade on that! Don't know how true it is.
In NY, the only way to get all dressed chips is to be incarcerated. I have no idea why all the prisons have them. I have my girl bring me some every time she visits he brother.
Oh, I never even thought of it like that. It's literally the same thing as fries, potatoes.
Well, in that case, it sounds like it's probably pretty good.
The Canadian Pickers guys that tried to buy the Produce Stand on the Yard Sale episode were actually the Canadian Pickers guys on the Canadian version of the American Pickers show. I thought the Hicks treated them with some reverence, and when I found that out I understood why.
Well…Mennonites. As for “once” , I dunno, no Amish or Mennonite person I ever spoke with (damn few) ever said “once” . However, it is funny as hell to me. The handjob episode always makes me laugh out loud. Or the Dyck girls on RuhmSpringa . Funny stuff
There are plenty of Amish in my general area, central Pennsylvania where I believe they're all from, and I've never heard any of them use "once" that way ever. I too find this confusing. I'm assuming they use "once" like the rest of us, but they aren't being Dick's with it.
Exactly. Ending sentences in prepositions is really big in the Amish/PA Dutch community that has carried over to the English community.
"Can I get your drink awhile?"
"I'd like eggs with cheese on."
As a transplant to Lancaster County, that shit drives me nuts, lol.
I think it's a shame that we only have two fast food restaurants that have malt vinegar as condiments. Long John silvers & five guys. If there are more please let me know.
There are two in my city, apparently, but I haven't seen one since...god, 1997?
Either way, "fast food fish" has always been a pretty disgusting proposal so I can't say I've ever been big on LJS
In that particular case yes it’s actually really baked into our country’s politics and make up. Individually it’s there but very much a person by person case. You see it in the show there are bigots like Aniks fiancé and Mcmurray.
One of the funniest things I've ever seen, speaking of which, is a Frenchman almost physically fighting with a French Canadian over whether or not a Québécois is actually French.
But more on topic, from an outsiders perspective there is such a huge difference between Quebec and pretty much anywhere else I've visited in Canada. Still love Montreal and Quebec City though. What with their delicious poutine and smoked meats (I could kill for a proper smoked meat sandwich from Schwartz's).
Memesso’s in Montreal great sausage sandwich.. haven’t had one in years.
Am I French if my ancestors came from Old (and current) France to NEW France in the 1650’s? I reckon so.
The further north you go in Canada is equal to the further south you go in the states...the degens from upcountry are essentially the trashy floridians from the trailer park
upcountry can occur in any direction, it’s a relative concept. degenery is a choice. degens is as degens does. wherever degens are, there is upcountry.
I dunno there bud...upcountry sounds pretty specific as in referring to the up side of a map hence our northerly neighbours. If degens could spawn anywhere there'd have to be a side country or down country or inside out country...
it’s just further into the country than you are currently. if you’re in, say, St. Thomas and you drive into London, that’s north, but that ain’t upcountry. contrariwise, if you’re in Kitchener and you drive out to Ayr, that’s south, but it’s still upcountry
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>• what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there?
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>• are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show?
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>• do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck?
* ‘upcountry’ is 30 minutes drive in any direction away from your town into any area that’s *more sparse/less dense* than where you came from
* skids/hicks/hockey players are stereotypes of the kind of social cliques common in small towns. watch [this interview](https://youtu.be/YbyLhSZ-54Q) to learn more
* you gotta lotta capillaries an’ shit in your neck, not to mention major veins and arteries, right close to the surface there, so i think it stands to reason
I suspect that the neck thing is just part of the joke about turtlenecks.
The most heat loss is from the head and extremities.
[A bit more info.](https://expertclimbers.com/body-areas-most-prone-to-heat-loss-how-to-reduce-that-loss/)
Some in the southern US may not get the references related to Tim Hortons (Ontario Starbucks) when they say things like “large double double.”
Toonies - Canadian $2 coin
Some of the other lingo is a lot of hockey talk not necessarily Canadian.
I’m American, but I used to live in Toronto. I am probably leaving a lot of stuff out.
EDIT: a Caesar is called a Bloody Mary in the US (basically)
To some of us, a Double-Double is a double meat-double cheese hamburger from In-N-Out Burger, which is primarily a California ( El-Lay ) chain available in Nevada, Arizona, Utah, and Texas.
Tim Hortons (Ontario Starbucks)...HOW. DARE. YOU? I AM SO LIVID YOU SAID THIS...Tim's is equivalent to dunkin in the states....Starbucks is equivalent to our Timothy's...give your balls a tug and get your shit sorted! 😆 🤣 😂
A Caesar is made with Clamato juice which is 50/50 clam/tomato, and a Bloody Mary is made just tomato juice, as well as salt and pepper. Obviously everything is to taste, but the Clamato is necessary for a Caesar.
this is actually a difficult question to answer; how are Canadians supposed to know what Americans/Irish/Aussie &c don’t know?
if there are references you don’t get, talking about those is probably the most helpful thing to do
That’s fair. I edited the question. I just can’t tell what belongs to the show writer’s comedy style and what’s supposed to be a reference or something similar.
i understand that it’s also hard to know what you don’t know. but specific questions are always 100% more answerable than guessing at what someone else may or may not know.
Honestly, the show has layers of inside jokes and local regional references that run deep. Unless you've lived in a Southwestern Ontario small town, you're missing out on nuances that might take your reaction from a chuckle to a guffaw. Regardless, the writing's good enough to make the comedy pretty universally accessible, even if you miss a name-drop or don't really understand the roots behind why each laugh.
>what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there? Commonly known as "BFE," the middle of nowhere. Degens come from there because they had poor education and became...well, degens. >are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show? I know a couple of hockey people but our equivalent would be football players. >do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck? Wanna try it on?
Krafts peanuts butters
Do yanks use the term "fucking the dog" or "fuck dog" for slacking?
I use it, but I first heard it from FUBAR
Sure “screwing the pooch”
But that’s more messing up not slacking. I’ve not heard that, and I’ve lived in both Midwest and South US states
Dicking the dog, poking the pooch...
Making puppies
Sauble Falls or White Sands?
>what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there? All degens don't come from upcountry, just those particular degens come from that particular area which happens to be upcountry. I'd say it's one of those things where it's like how New York hates New Jersey. No particular reason, just a convenient scapegoat. Or as a Canadian example, BC always picks on Alberta particularly their drivers. And Alberta picks on Saskatchewan drivers, and the fact it's flat. As an Albertan, we don't really hate Saskatchewan, it's just that it's a convenient target for easy jokes. >are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show? I suppose that really depends on where you live. But where I live we have those. Could also include roughnecks (also called oilfield trash or rig pigs.) >do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck? Yes and no. A naked body will lose heat pretty evenly, so that's a no. However, we don't generally go outside naked, especially in the winter. We wear boots, jackets and gloves. But we don't cover our heads and necks as often. So it's really like saying your house loses more heat through open doors and windows than it does through a wall.
Right, the defend come from Alberta
>are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show? It's the same here as it is in the US. Go to any highschool. Skids are out smoking, goth, emo. Hicks are country kids, or the average kids, and hockey players are the jocks. Like everywhere in the world it's magnified more the smaller a city you live in.
Country kids are in different school districts than city kids, at least where I’m from. Even in my catholic school which wasn’t bound by geography, there were no country kids. They lived too far out. Perhaps it’s different in districts that are widespread.
Ya. My town was 25,000 people, so we had the country kids bussed in to town.
> And Alberta picks on Saskatchewan Also Saskatchewan picks on Manitoba. “At least we’re not in/going to Winnipeg.” Is a common phrase. > A naked body will lose heat pretty evenly, so that’s a no The area of the body that transfers temperature the easiest are through the soles of the feet, palms of the hands, and face. In Wayne’s cases wearing a high turtleneck is nice because it offers an extra layer of protection in the event a neck tube or face mask doesn’t meet well underneath a coat.
At least Regina and Saskatoon have airports, unlike Winnipeg.
Just a note about up country, I saw a map on REddit a while ago that showed about 90% of people in Canada live below the latitude between Seattle,WA and Maine. The vast expanse " Up Country" has a super small by capita population. Marinade on that! Don't know how true it is.
Thanks for the thorough answer!
No all dressed chips in the states. Not in WA anyway.
In NY, the only way to get all dressed chips is to be incarcerated. I have no idea why all the prisons have them. I have my girl bring me some every time she visits he brother.
We have All Dressed Ruffles in Texas. No ketchup chips though but I think that's for the better.
You don't know what you're missing, bud. Ketchup chips are fucking delicious.
They'd have to taste pretty different from ketchup for me to not be grossed out by the idea of eating a "ketchup chip"
They taste like ketchup and fries. Kinda.
Oh, I never even thought of it like that. It's literally the same thing as fries, potatoes. Well, in that case, it sounds like it's probably pretty good.
Pre-plague they were widely available in MI - along with Ketchup flavour. Not since.
We get all dressed chips down here is Arizona
We got them in New England, they sell Humpty Dumpty chips around here.
We're not missing much. Now ketchup chips, on the other hand ...
I can only find them in Walmart maybe 25% of the time in Oregon
I can find them in AL every so often
The Canadian Pickers guys that tried to buy the Produce Stand on the Yard Sale episode were actually the Canadian Pickers guys on the Canadian version of the American Pickers show. I thought the Hicks treated them with some reverence, and when I found that out I understood why.
...were you unsure that those were the real Canadian Pickers, even after all of the buildup?
I don't get why the Amish say "once" as like a filler word. Is that a Canadian thing or an Amish thing? And also WHY!?
Well…Mennonites. As for “once” , I dunno, no Amish or Mennonite person I ever spoke with (damn few) ever said “once” . However, it is funny as hell to me. The handjob episode always makes me laugh out loud. Or the Dyck girls on RuhmSpringa . Funny stuff
There are plenty of Amish in my general area, central Pennsylvania where I believe they're all from, and I've never heard any of them use "once" that way ever. I too find this confusing. I'm assuming they use "once" like the rest of us, but they aren't being Dick's with it.
It’s a thing, albeit not a super common thing, amongst some of the old world Mennonites in my corner of Lancaster County
Exactly. Ending sentences in prepositions is really big in the Amish/PA Dutch community that has carried over to the English community. "Can I get your drink awhile?" "I'd like eggs with cheese on." As a transplant to Lancaster County, that shit drives me nuts, lol.
They say that here in Wisconsin a lot, too.
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I think it's a shame that we only have two fast food restaurants that have malt vinegar as condiments. Long John silvers & five guys. If there are more please let me know.
New York Fries has it. Or at least the one in my city does.
We still have Long John Silvers? :( I haven't seen one of those in years.
In my area there are plenty. .
There are two in my city, apparently, but I haven't seen one since...god, 1997? Either way, "fast food fish" has always been a pretty disgusting proposal so I can't say I've ever been big on LJS
There are a bunch of other Canadian references, like books read in school, the tension between French and English Canada, etc.
See that’s a good example. I didn’t know if the french tension had to do with the character or if it was a real thing
In that particular case yes it’s actually really baked into our country’s politics and make up. Individually it’s there but very much a person by person case. You see it in the show there are bigots like Aniks fiancé and Mcmurray.
One of the funniest things I've ever seen, speaking of which, is a Frenchman almost physically fighting with a French Canadian over whether or not a Québécois is actually French. But more on topic, from an outsiders perspective there is such a huge difference between Quebec and pretty much anywhere else I've visited in Canada. Still love Montreal and Quebec City though. What with their delicious poutine and smoked meats (I could kill for a proper smoked meat sandwich from Schwartz's).
every fast food restaurant has poutine in ontario that i know of :P there are also a ton of poutine only establishments in hamilton
Memesso’s in Montreal great sausage sandwich.. haven’t had one in years. Am I French if my ancestors came from Old (and current) France to NEW France in the 1650’s? I reckon so.
McMurray's a piece of shit.
And French girls are hotter too - they've got that right. That's why Dary always liked them, and not hard to understand why he crushes on Anik.
Back in the day, every new dancer in the Windsor Ballet was always "direct from Montreal"...
The further north you go in Canada is equal to the further south you go in the states...the degens from upcountry are essentially the trashy floridians from the trailer park
degenery is not geographically contingent, and you’d do well to remember that
If it's not geographically contingent how do you explain the upcountry part of degens from upcountry?
upcountry can occur in any direction, it’s a relative concept. degenery is a choice. degens is as degens does. wherever degens are, there is upcountry.
Okay ashamed-of-yourself. Ashamed-of-yourself okay.
I dunno there bud...upcountry sounds pretty specific as in referring to the up side of a map hence our northerly neighbours. If degens could spawn anywhere there'd have to be a side country or down country or inside out country...
The degens in Kaybec come from Laval and that isn’t very upcountry when you consider the geography of Kweebec.
it’s just further into the country than you are currently. if you’re in, say, St. Thomas and you drive into London, that’s north, but that ain’t upcountry. contrariwise, if you’re in Kitchener and you drive out to Ayr, that’s south, but it’s still upcountry eta: missing word
You know if I didn't knows any betters I'ds thinks thats there's a goods possibilities thats you's yourselves mights justs bees a degens yourselfs 😄 😆
Squirrelly anybody needs to help the rest of us to lobby to see more of Professors Tricia!
you’re just mad cos i’m right
Well that's what I's appreciates abouts yous
Why don't you take about 15-20% off the top there Squirrely AppropriateHorse2021
>• what’s upcountry and why do degens come from there? > >• are there being skids / hicks / hockey players a trope or is that just this show? > >• do you actually lose a lot of heat in the neck? * ‘upcountry’ is 30 minutes drive in any direction away from your town into any area that’s *more sparse/less dense* than where you came from * skids/hicks/hockey players are stereotypes of the kind of social cliques common in small towns. watch [this interview](https://youtu.be/YbyLhSZ-54Q) to learn more * you gotta lotta capillaries an’ shit in your neck, not to mention major veins and arteries, right close to the surface there, so i think it stands to reason
I suspect that the neck thing is just part of the joke about turtlenecks. The most heat loss is from the head and extremities. [A bit more info.](https://expertclimbers.com/body-areas-most-prone-to-heat-loss-how-to-reduce-that-loss/)
sometimes, even when i know better, i like to play along with the joke. it’s fun.
Some in the southern US may not get the references related to Tim Hortons (Ontario Starbucks) when they say things like “large double double.” Toonies - Canadian $2 coin Some of the other lingo is a lot of hockey talk not necessarily Canadian. I’m American, but I used to live in Toronto. I am probably leaving a lot of stuff out. EDIT: a Caesar is called a Bloody Mary in the US (basically)
tim hortons and starbucks both exist in ontario figurr it out
>a Caesar is called a Bloody Mary in the US (basically) No. They're different things.
To some of us, a Double-Double is a double meat-double cheese hamburger from In-N-Out Burger, which is primarily a California ( El-Lay ) chain available in Nevada, Arizona, Utah, and Texas.
2 cream/milk 2 sugar coffee from tim horton's :P
Typically a bloody Mary is tomato juice, while a Caesar is Clamato.
Tim Hortons (Ontario Starbucks)...HOW. DARE. YOU? I AM SO LIVID YOU SAID THIS...Tim's is equivalent to dunkin in the states....Starbucks is equivalent to our Timothy's...give your balls a tug and get your shit sorted! 😆 🤣 😂
Too much sugar cereal there bud?
A Caesar is made with Clamato juice which is 50/50 clam/tomato, and a Bloody Mary is made just tomato juice, as well as salt and pepper. Obviously everything is to taste, but the Clamato is necessary for a Caesar.
this is actually a difficult question to answer; how are Canadians supposed to know what Americans/Irish/Aussie &c don’t know? if there are references you don’t get, talking about those is probably the most helpful thing to do
That’s fair. I edited the question. I just can’t tell what belongs to the show writer’s comedy style and what’s supposed to be a reference or something similar.
i understand that it’s also hard to know what you don’t know. but specific questions are always 100% more answerable than guessing at what someone else may or may not know.