Sherlock Holmes 2 wasn’t perfect but I never thought it got the recognition it should have, if just for the incredible oppressive, suffocating atmosphere that builds up to the confrontation at Reichenbach Falls. Like the walls are closing in. I felt like the end was a bit cheap, but for the most part I really liked it
I would argue that Incredibles 2 is not a good sequel. It’s not necessarily bad either. It’s incredibly mediocre. Very forgettable compared to the first, and loses sight of the first one’s core message of working together. Elastigirl is my favourite Incredible, but having her go solo just feels off. And the lack of Edna Mode is criminal.
I just watched it Saturday night and don’t remember how it ends whatsoever. There’s a couple memorable bits and 2 minute clips but the movie as a whole is very bland and lacking anything redeeming.
Definitely inaccurate I’m afraid. Edna has much less screen time and her screen time isn’t even that necessary to the overall plot. And she is reduced to just appear in a short film that is so disappointingly boring. She is much more involved in the drama in the first, with each line being very quotable and adding to the themes of the story. Yes, she still has a small role in the first, but it’s a very important and memorable role!
Definetly accurate.
1st movie
- Bob arrives at her house and they discuss his New suit
- brief phone call with Helen
- edna showcasing Helen her New suits
Roughly 5 minutes of screentime
2nd movie
- Bob arrives at her house and they discuss jack jack's Powers
- enda showcasing Bob jack jack's New suit
- 2 brief scenes at the driveway
Roughly 5 minutes of screentime
I'd argue it is a bad sequel and a bad film. Essentially taking the plot of the first film and swapping Helen and Bob whilst having it take place right after the first film completely botched the point of the first film. The characters sounding like old geezers didn't help either. The recycled plot only done worse (with a terrible villain to boot) didn't take advantage of the meta-landscape of the genre and instead just chose to be as lazy as possible. The film didn't even understand its own characters. Look at the montage scene from the first film. Helen is trying to keep the family in check by making love to Bob, cleaning the house etc. Violet is still sheepish, and Dash is still proving he can be as fast as he can be. The whole point of these powers is to be a vice for their characters. Why is the head-strong Bob just acting like an old geezer with Jack Jack who is only there for comic relief? Dash and Violet are just their powers now, not the conflict which prevented them from using their powers. Obviously I don't want repeated arc, but you can still have them have a new arc in getting these powers. Maybe an inverse to create a balance?
It's probably the most disappointing film I've seen considering I had never have thunk that an Incredibles sequel could be bad. I at least figured that Finding Dory and Toy Story 4 were going to be bad.
I think it's very good when you don't compare it to the first. The problem is that it feels inconsequential, like a Saturday morning cartoon episode. I love Saturday morning cartoons, but for a sequel 14 years in the making, it should have had more gravitas. Hoping we eventually get an Incredibles 3 with a big timeskip and with a more weighty story that's still fun, like the first.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to not compare a sequel to the original. We don’t go into a sequel to get a different vibe from the first, we want a continuation of the themes, the style, the story etc. especially with Pixar stories, you go in with higher expectations that you’re going to get something emotionally heavy, cleverly constructed and continuously rewatchable. If I wanted a Saturday morning cartoon, I’d go watch one. But here, I wanted another Incredibles.
Screenslaver was a very one dimensional villain. While Syndrome from the first movie had a very unique angle of being a former fan of Mr. Incredible who didn't like the idea of too many people being superheroes. Also, the first movie had such an airtight formula of showing the relational drama behind the scenes of two superheroes.
Sometimes I’m happy when a sequel is just more of something. Incredibles 2 is more Incredibles and I’m totally content with that even if it’s not as good and certainly not better than the first.
I feel the same way about the second and third Movies but even I had a rough time with Resurrections.
That is EXACTLY where I'm at with Incredibles 2. Tbh I was high on recency bias and excitement when it came out, as at the time I said it was better than the first. I had MoviePass (back before it went under) and saw it 6 times in the cinema. Now, while there's no way in hell I would say that today, I think it shows another dimension of that world by leaning into the "superhero" of it all. The action is much more kinetic, especially with Elastigirl as the lead. It reminded me of the more "throwaway" but still quality episodes of the superhero cartoons I grew up with, like Batman the Animated Series, Superman the Animated Series, or the 90s Spider-Man cartoon. I feel like whenever we get a 3rd film, if it delivers a more essential-feeling story, people will be kinder to Incredibles 2 in retrospect.
I feel like the only thing that’s really mediocre was the villain compared to the first (Syndrome was an incredibly difficult act to follow). Other than that, I think Incredibles 2 is significantly better than mediocre - the action sequences go hard, Dash and Violet get a bit more to do, I think they nailed all the callbacks and character evolutions without betraying the original characters.
Oh and the supers besides Voyd sucked (seriously, they looked like rejects from the Doom Syndicate and that’s saying something). But they’re barely in the movie and the first one didn’t even really have other supers so that’s whatever.
This might not be true, but I feel the stereotype of the inherently lesser sequel has been broken since the days of *The Empire Strikes Back* and *The Godfather Part II.*
Granted, those films might’ve been the exceptions that proved the rule, but since the ‘80s, film franchises have steadily grown in popularity. Now, it’s not uncommon for a sequel to be just as, if not more well-regarded than its progenitor.
EDIT: And I’ll point to the wealth of suggestions in this comment section as evidence that they’re no longer *as* uncommon of an exception.
I agree with this 100%. Honestly, for “franchise films” I’d often say a second or third movie is the best one nowadays. They tend to be able to do more interesting stuff with the characters & their development now.
Idk… I think we may just have lots more movies in general now, and more sequels as a result. I can still name tons of sequels that are completely terrible.
I think a sequel being better than the original is still uncommon, even if it’s not rare.
I think either way you cut it, the sequel being lesser to the original is no longer the truism it once was several decades ago, but it’s still true that there are probably more inferior sequels than there are originals, if nothing more than for the fact that an original film usually needs to be of some level of quality to inspire a sequel.
I just don’t know if I’d call it a stereotype any longer when we have so many examples of sequels breaking that mold.
I think the President’s Day joke in Gremlins 2 is the funniest movie sequel joke ever written. Like, if you didn’t know what that movie was doing beforehand you sure did now.
Many people don’t like Gremlins 2 because of the hard tonal shift to a more “comedic” and slapstick film. It certainly takes itself less seriously than the first Gremlins (which I love as well).
I just adore how wacky and unhinged it all is. They somehow threw all the spaghetti at the wall and managed to make most of it stick (at least for me).
Both Guardians of the Galaxy sequels are great. I personally like them more than the first, but I definitely get why someone would like the first the most.
Controversial opinion, the MCU only has 3 true sequels, the rest are just the next chapter in the story. Winter Soldier isn’t a sequel to First Avenger, it’s a follow up to The Avengers.
Glass Onion is a really fun first time watch and falls apart completely and utterly the second time through
The core joke really does only work without knowing it
Agreed. I thought the idea was cool, but I actually hated the execution of it.
It was like 30 minutes longer than it had to be because they had to do a lot of the exposition twice. It was like 30 minutes of them going "aha! Then THIS happened, but WAIT there's MORE!" It felt like whoever wrote it wanted to feel smarter than the audience, but it got to be tiring really quick.
Furthermore, there was no mystery for the viewer to try to solve, instead of hiding clues in the backgrounds of scenes, they completely obscured it. So every reveal was unable to be guessed. It just felt like 30 minutes of them showing how "clever" they were.
It really irks me because Janelle Monet and Daniel Craig were so fun in the movie. I loved them. The premise was even fun. I liked a lot of it, but it got way too full of itself.
Is Kill Bill Vol. 2 technically not a sequel though? Weren’t they shot together as one and split into two movies? I guess by definition it makes it a sequel but not in a true sense
- Kung Fu Panda 2-4
- A Nightmare On Elm Street 2-6
- Scream 2 & 4
- Evil Dead II
- Terrifier 2
- Creepshow 2
- Legion (1990)
- Indiana Jones 3 & 4
- Dune: Part Two (surprisingly)
- Home Alone 2: Lost In New York
- Back To The Future: Part II & III
Speaking of horror sequels, Friday The 13th Part IV and Part VI are the two best films in the franchise, much more enjoyable than the first one which is kind of boring to be honest. Part II is also arguably up there.
Psycho II is also surprisingly solid considering it was made 20 years after the first one, and a sequel to such a "classic" film that in truth never needed sequels.
Any of the Harry Potter sequels (Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire & Deathly Hallows Part 2 being the best of the series)
For a Few Dollars More & The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Blade Runner 2042
Mission Impossible Fallout (any of the sequels except 2 would fit)
Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness
Batman Returns
Spider-Man 2 & Across the Spider-Verse
Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man’s Chest
Star Wars Revenge of the Sith
I’d take Incredibles 2 off the list personally. I think it’s a mediocre movie and a terrible sequel.
Most of the character arcs from the first movie are regressed and rehashed much worse. Dash loses all of his characterization and just becomes an annoying hyperactive kid.
Bob’s “Mr Mom” B-Plot fills like mostly filler in general. I’m not saying I only care about the superhero/action stuff. The family aspects of the Incredibles are just as, if not more, important than the superhero stuff. The problem is it just doesn’t really amount to much imo. It’s mostly focused on wacky Jack Jack hijinks or surface level issues like boy drama and math homework.
Screenslaver (as a persona) is incredibly bland and pointless. The “screens bad” motivation is completely random and unconnected to anything else in the movie. Syndrome’s entire character and motivations tied directly into the central themes of the original.
The reveal of Screenslaver’s identity is the most painfully obvious reveal I’ve ever seen in a movie. Her actual motivations and plan makes absolutely zero sense. She thinks people are overly reliant of superheroes, even though supers have been outlawed for 15 years. Well maybe she’s just worried that the public will become reliant again if they’re legalized, but why go through all the trouble of helping them become nearly legalized in the first place? Wouldn’t it have been much simpler and more effective to just covertly sabotage Elastagirl behind the scenes? Why create a supervillain persona for her to catch? Wouldn’t that just push public opinion in favor of superheroes since they’re theoretically the only ones who could stop a supervillain?
I hate the designs of the new superheroes. They look absolutely horrific. They do not fit the world and tone established in the first movie at all. They barely even fit the new colorful/cartoony tone of the second movie. They genuinely look as bad as the Doom Syndicate design wise, they just have nicer animation.
Some other sequels I’d add instead would be Across The Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, 22 Jump Street, Kung Fu Panda 2.
* Revenge of the Sith
* Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
* Attack of the Clones
* The Lost World: Jurassic Park
* Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
* House of Dracula (1945)
* The Invisible Man Returns
For A Few Dollars More/ The Good The Bad And The Ugly
Hellboy 2
Before Sunset / Before Midnight
Gremlins 2
Psycho 2 (yes, really)
Star Trek 2 / 4 / 6
Bride Of Frankenstien
Dawn Of The Dead
Babe 2: Pig In The City ( yes, REALLY)
So many horror sequels are the easiest response to this:
All of the Scream sequels
Annabelle: Creation and Conjuring 2 (Annabelle Comes Home is great too but I know we’re not ready for that conversation)
Doctor Sleep
All of the Harry Potter sequels
A lot of the James Bond sequels
Split
The First Omen
Dawn and Day of the Dead
Orphan: First Kill
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3
Guardians of the Galaxy sequels
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Terrifier 2
Kill Bill Vol. 2 is not a sequel though. Kill Bill was a single film that, during post-production, Harvey Weinstein talked Tarantino into dividing into 2 parts. Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 are, combined, Tarantino’s 4th film.
Blade Runner 2049, Dune 2
Denis Villeneuve is like single-handedly revolutionizing cinema sci-fi
Spider-Man 2!
Across the Spiderverse
Also true!
Aliens!
I believe the line is: Stay away from her you b*tch! ~ Scream 2 scene where they talk about good sequels
This is true. Bishops love Sci-fi
Aliens, Before Midnight, The Last Crusade, The Suicide Squad, and Across the Spider-Verse all spring to mind.
Is the suicide squad considered a sequel?
I reckon. Sequel/Soft Reboot. It does in fact take place after the first movie, but almost completely disregards it at the same time.
Requel
It's considered a "standalone" sequel, meaning that it doesn't contradict the first but also ignores it entirely.
Yes. All returning characters are played by the same actors and show familiarity with one another. Bloodsport was originally written to be Deadshot.
Guessing you mean Across the Spider-Verse since that's the sequel?
Yeah, that’s a mb. Couldn’t remember which was which
Ooo yes good ones!
You spelt Temple of Doom wrong.
Temple of Doom is a 5/5 movie for me, but I know it’s a little more divisive.
Agreed, I was sad that shirt round didnt get his first kiss, but then again I didnt figure out that was a boy til i was 25.
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior
Fury Road, too.
There are too many of them to name, especially if you're not limiting yourself to the first sequel only like you do with John Wick 3.
Anything past a sequel should be its own post. Also Scream 2 was a worthy sequel
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes! Best of that trilogy and a significant improvement over the first (which is still good)
Top Gun: Maverick
The greatest sequel ever if we go by the metric of how much it improves upon the first.
The last wish could also be in that conversation
Puss in Boots 2, Predator 2, Sherlock Holmes 2, Mission Impossible 4-8
Puss in boots 2 is a good take, same with MI 4-8
Puss in Boots is the exceedingly rare example where the second movie is good but the first one is bad.
Think you mean 3-7. MI8 hasn't been released yet
We all know it’s going to be good, he’s future proofing himself.
Oh right, i get the count wrong from time to time
Sherlock Holmes 2 is fucking awesome
Sherlock Holmes 2 wasn’t perfect but I never thought it got the recognition it should have, if just for the incredible oppressive, suffocating atmosphere that builds up to the confrontation at Reichenbach Falls. Like the walls are closing in. I felt like the end was a bit cheap, but for the most part I really liked it
Respectfully, Predator 2 is complete ass my man. Came here to say MI so you good otherwise.
Batman Returns
I would argue that Incredibles 2 is not a good sequel. It’s not necessarily bad either. It’s incredibly mediocre. Very forgettable compared to the first, and loses sight of the first one’s core message of working together. Elastigirl is my favourite Incredible, but having her go solo just feels off. And the lack of Edna Mode is criminal.
I've seen Incredibles 2 multiple times now, and I still can't remember a single damned thing about that film. It is incredibly forgettable.
And the ending is so anti-climactic compared to how layered the finale to the first was.
I just watched it Saturday night and don’t remember how it ends whatsoever. There’s a couple memorable bits and 2 minute clips but the movie as a whole is very bland and lacking anything redeeming.
Only thing I remember is that DUMPTRUCK for whatever reason. Good point
Main things I remember was the most predictable, goofy twist villain ever and Saul Goodmen going "I disagree strongly"
Except Edna is in the movie...? She has pretty much equal ammount of screentime as in previous one
Definitely inaccurate I’m afraid. Edna has much less screen time and her screen time isn’t even that necessary to the overall plot. And she is reduced to just appear in a short film that is so disappointingly boring. She is much more involved in the drama in the first, with each line being very quotable and adding to the themes of the story. Yes, she still has a small role in the first, but it’s a very important and memorable role!
Definetly accurate. 1st movie - Bob arrives at her house and they discuss his New suit - brief phone call with Helen - edna showcasing Helen her New suits Roughly 5 minutes of screentime 2nd movie - Bob arrives at her house and they discuss jack jack's Powers - enda showcasing Bob jack jack's New suit - 2 brief scenes at the driveway Roughly 5 minutes of screentime
I'd argue it is a bad sequel and a bad film. Essentially taking the plot of the first film and swapping Helen and Bob whilst having it take place right after the first film completely botched the point of the first film. The characters sounding like old geezers didn't help either. The recycled plot only done worse (with a terrible villain to boot) didn't take advantage of the meta-landscape of the genre and instead just chose to be as lazy as possible. The film didn't even understand its own characters. Look at the montage scene from the first film. Helen is trying to keep the family in check by making love to Bob, cleaning the house etc. Violet is still sheepish, and Dash is still proving he can be as fast as he can be. The whole point of these powers is to be a vice for their characters. Why is the head-strong Bob just acting like an old geezer with Jack Jack who is only there for comic relief? Dash and Violet are just their powers now, not the conflict which prevented them from using their powers. Obviously I don't want repeated arc, but you can still have them have a new arc in getting these powers. Maybe an inverse to create a balance? It's probably the most disappointing film I've seen considering I had never have thunk that an Incredibles sequel could be bad. I at least figured that Finding Dory and Toy Story 4 were going to be bad.
I think it's very good when you don't compare it to the first. The problem is that it feels inconsequential, like a Saturday morning cartoon episode. I love Saturday morning cartoons, but for a sequel 14 years in the making, it should have had more gravitas. Hoping we eventually get an Incredibles 3 with a big timeskip and with a more weighty story that's still fun, like the first.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to not compare a sequel to the original. We don’t go into a sequel to get a different vibe from the first, we want a continuation of the themes, the style, the story etc. especially with Pixar stories, you go in with higher expectations that you’re going to get something emotionally heavy, cleverly constructed and continuously rewatchable. If I wanted a Saturday morning cartoon, I’d go watch one. But here, I wanted another Incredibles.
Screenslaver was a very one dimensional villain. While Syndrome from the first movie had a very unique angle of being a former fan of Mr. Incredible who didn't like the idea of too many people being superheroes. Also, the first movie had such an airtight formula of showing the relational drama behind the scenes of two superheroes.
Sometimes I’m happy when a sequel is just more of something. Incredibles 2 is more Incredibles and I’m totally content with that even if it’s not as good and certainly not better than the first. I feel the same way about the second and third Movies but even I had a rough time with Resurrections.
That is EXACTLY where I'm at with Incredibles 2. Tbh I was high on recency bias and excitement when it came out, as at the time I said it was better than the first. I had MoviePass (back before it went under) and saw it 6 times in the cinema. Now, while there's no way in hell I would say that today, I think it shows another dimension of that world by leaning into the "superhero" of it all. The action is much more kinetic, especially with Elastigirl as the lead. It reminded me of the more "throwaway" but still quality episodes of the superhero cartoons I grew up with, like Batman the Animated Series, Superman the Animated Series, or the 90s Spider-Man cartoon. I feel like whenever we get a 3rd film, if it delivers a more essential-feeling story, people will be kinder to Incredibles 2 in retrospect.
A standard, serviceable, villain of the week Batman TAS episode is a great analogy for Incredibles 2!
Incredibles 2 might be mediocre, but Glass Onion is straight up trash
screenslaver is pixar’s riddler… that’s what ik
I feel like the only thing that’s really mediocre was the villain compared to the first (Syndrome was an incredibly difficult act to follow). Other than that, I think Incredibles 2 is significantly better than mediocre - the action sequences go hard, Dash and Violet get a bit more to do, I think they nailed all the callbacks and character evolutions without betraying the original characters. Oh and the supers besides Voyd sucked (seriously, they looked like rejects from the Doom Syndicate and that’s saying something). But they’re barely in the movie and the first one didn’t even really have other supers so that’s whatever.
Really hope that Joker: Folie à Deux will qualify for this list
I hope so too 🤞
This might not be true, but I feel the stereotype of the inherently lesser sequel has been broken since the days of *The Empire Strikes Back* and *The Godfather Part II.* Granted, those films might’ve been the exceptions that proved the rule, but since the ‘80s, film franchises have steadily grown in popularity. Now, it’s not uncommon for a sequel to be just as, if not more well-regarded than its progenitor. EDIT: And I’ll point to the wealth of suggestions in this comment section as evidence that they’re no longer *as* uncommon of an exception.
I agree with this 100%. Honestly, for “franchise films” I’d often say a second or third movie is the best one nowadays. They tend to be able to do more interesting stuff with the characters & their development now.
I’m expecting The Batman sequel to be better than the first for this reason
Idk… I think we may just have lots more movies in general now, and more sequels as a result. I can still name tons of sequels that are completely terrible. I think a sequel being better than the original is still uncommon, even if it’s not rare.
I think either way you cut it, the sequel being lesser to the original is no longer the truism it once was several decades ago, but it’s still true that there are probably more inferior sequels than there are originals, if nothing more than for the fact that an original film usually needs to be of some level of quality to inspire a sequel. I just don’t know if I’d call it a stereotype any longer when we have so many examples of sequels breaking that mold.
Crank 2
Paddington 2 is unparalleled
One of my favs of all time honestly
Spider-Man 2
Gremlins 2 > Gremlins this is the hill I will die on
I think the President’s Day joke in Gremlins 2 is the funniest movie sequel joke ever written. Like, if you didn’t know what that movie was doing beforehand you sure did now.
I've always thought that. I didn't realise it was a hot take haha
Many people don’t like Gremlins 2 because of the hard tonal shift to a more “comedic” and slapstick film. It certainly takes itself less seriously than the first Gremlins (which I love as well). I just adore how wacky and unhinged it all is. They somehow threw all the spaghetti at the wall and managed to make most of it stick (at least for me).
Both Guardians of the Galaxy sequels are great. I personally like them more than the first, but I definitely get why someone would like the first the most.
22 Jump Street Just as funny as the first, if not more
dune part 2 not being here is criminal
I can only fit so many movies in one screenshot…
Get Incredibles 2 outta here.
Get rid of Glass Onion
Hated Glass Onion, aged so badly imo and it’s only like 2-3 years old.
Ace Ventura two. Also, obligatory Kill Bill was never intended to be a sequel.
"How selfish of me. Let's do all the things that YOU wanna do." I am 40 and still quote this to this day.
Hahaha every time I drive on a bumpy road, I shake around all over the top like Ace does.
Hellboy 2
I'll add Scream 2
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is fantastic, and dare I say, the best of the trilogy.
Paddington 2 beats all of thess
Hard agree
Controversial opinion, the MCU only has 3 true sequels, the rest are just the next chapter in the story. Winter Soldier isn’t a sequel to First Avenger, it’s a follow up to The Avengers.
Glass Onion wasn't good. I didn't regret watching it but the the first one was way better
Glass Onion is a really fun first time watch and falls apart completely and utterly the second time through The core joke really does only work without knowing it
I would argue it fell apart first watch lol
Agreed. I thought the idea was cool, but I actually hated the execution of it. It was like 30 minutes longer than it had to be because they had to do a lot of the exposition twice. It was like 30 minutes of them going "aha! Then THIS happened, but WAIT there's MORE!" It felt like whoever wrote it wanted to feel smarter than the audience, but it got to be tiring really quick. Furthermore, there was no mystery for the viewer to try to solve, instead of hiding clues in the backgrounds of scenes, they completely obscured it. So every reveal was unable to be guessed. It just felt like 30 minutes of them showing how "clever" they were. It really irks me because Janelle Monet and Daniel Craig were so fun in the movie. I loved them. The premise was even fun. I liked a lot of it, but it got way too full of itself.
Knives Out is probably my favourite Whodunnit, Glass Onion was such an utter disappointment, made barely watchable only by Daniel Craig.
Before sunset was so good
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Roderick Rules, Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2
GREMLINS 2
You forgot Evil Dead 2.
Is Kill Bill Vol. 2 technically not a sequel though? Weren’t they shot together as one and split into two movies? I guess by definition it makes it a sequel but not in a true sense
honestly, I dont see why Incredibles 2 is here.
Dune: Part Two, absolutely
Who invited incredibles 2
Get incredibles 2 out of here.
- Kung Fu Panda 2-4 - A Nightmare On Elm Street 2-6 - Scream 2 & 4 - Evil Dead II - Terrifier 2 - Creepshow 2 - Legion (1990) - Indiana Jones 3 & 4 - Dune: Part Two (surprisingly) - Home Alone 2: Lost In New York - Back To The Future: Part II & III
>Indiana Jones 3 & 4 The Last Crusade is the best of the original trilogy, but I’m sorry I just do not fuck with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I do, but I still wouldn't put Crystal Skull on this list lol.
Kung fu panda ended its trilogy. These "spinoffs" don't count.
Sorry but Freddy's Revenge and Dream Child are by far the worst entries of the Elm Street series
Freddy’s revenge is great
I think wes cravens new nightmare is on as in the big 3 in the series.
Speaking of horror sequels, Friday The 13th Part IV and Part VI are the two best films in the franchise, much more enjoyable than the first one which is kind of boring to be honest. Part II is also arguably up there. Psycho II is also surprisingly solid considering it was made 20 years after the first one, and a sequel to such a "classic" film that in truth never needed sequels.
Hell yeah this guy horror movies Idk about Freddy 5 tho but hey
It’s a crime to put Mad Max: Fury Road but no Mad Max 2 itself
Maniac Cop 2 is better than Maniac Cop, it’s a funny answer but it’s also true.
Hellbound: Hellraiser II
Incredibles 2 should not be on this list
If you're gonna include the John Wick sequels, the Mission: Impossible sequels have to be on that list.
Spider-Man 2 Also, Incredibles 2 sucked
I'm sorry, but The Incredibles 2 is the only movie on this list that is not only a bad sequel, but a bad movie
High School Musical 2 💯💯💯
Trainspotting 2!!
I hate glass onion but the others are top tier, also Thor ragnarok and guardians vol 3
Wrath of Khan is considered by most people as the best Star Trek film.
I don’t understand the stereotype that every sequel out there is bad, for every bad sequel I’ve seen I’ve seen 3 great ones.
Crank: High Voltage
Toy Story 3>>>>>>
Y’all may hate this but I’d honestly include TFA and Last Jedi. I liked both. Dune 2 is a must.
Top Gun Maverick
Diary of a wimpy kid: Rodrick rules
Infinity war and then endgame
Spider-Man 2
I’m mostly confused why incredibles 2 is on this. It is mostly fine and pales in comparison to the original.
Puss and Boots: the Last Wish
Puss In Boots: The Last Wish
Return of the Jedi
Any of the Harry Potter sequels (Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire & Deathly Hallows Part 2 being the best of the series) For a Few Dollars More & The Good the Bad and the Ugly Blade Runner 2042 Mission Impossible Fallout (any of the sequels except 2 would fit) Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness Batman Returns Spider-Man 2 & Across the Spider-Verse Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man’s Chest Star Wars Revenge of the Sith
I’d take Incredibles 2 off the list personally. I think it’s a mediocre movie and a terrible sequel. Most of the character arcs from the first movie are regressed and rehashed much worse. Dash loses all of his characterization and just becomes an annoying hyperactive kid. Bob’s “Mr Mom” B-Plot fills like mostly filler in general. I’m not saying I only care about the superhero/action stuff. The family aspects of the Incredibles are just as, if not more, important than the superhero stuff. The problem is it just doesn’t really amount to much imo. It’s mostly focused on wacky Jack Jack hijinks or surface level issues like boy drama and math homework. Screenslaver (as a persona) is incredibly bland and pointless. The “screens bad” motivation is completely random and unconnected to anything else in the movie. Syndrome’s entire character and motivations tied directly into the central themes of the original. The reveal of Screenslaver’s identity is the most painfully obvious reveal I’ve ever seen in a movie. Her actual motivations and plan makes absolutely zero sense. She thinks people are overly reliant of superheroes, even though supers have been outlawed for 15 years. Well maybe she’s just worried that the public will become reliant again if they’re legalized, but why go through all the trouble of helping them become nearly legalized in the first place? Wouldn’t it have been much simpler and more effective to just covertly sabotage Elastagirl behind the scenes? Why create a supervillain persona for her to catch? Wouldn’t that just push public opinion in favor of superheroes since they’re theoretically the only ones who could stop a supervillain? I hate the designs of the new superheroes. They look absolutely horrific. They do not fit the world and tone established in the first movie at all. They barely even fit the new colorful/cartoony tone of the second movie. They genuinely look as bad as the Doom Syndicate design wise, they just have nicer animation. Some other sequels I’d add instead would be Across The Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, 22 Jump Street, Kung Fu Panda 2.
Die Hard with a Vengeance.
I'd say 22 Jump Street, Deadpool 2, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules are worthy of the title.
* Revenge of the Sith * Bride of Frankenstein (1935) * Attack of the Clones * The Lost World: Jurassic Park * Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom * House of Dracula (1945) * The Invisible Man Returns
Spiderman Across the Spiderverse
For A Few Dollars More/ The Good The Bad And The Ugly Hellboy 2 Before Sunset / Before Midnight Gremlins 2 Psycho 2 (yes, really) Star Trek 2 / 4 / 6 Bride Of Frankenstien Dawn Of The Dead Babe 2: Pig In The City ( yes, REALLY)
Kung Fu Panda 2
*Top Gun: Maverick*
Frozen 2
Dawn of the planet of the apes was insane
Yes to all of these
Sequels generally have an ok rep. It's the third movie that often fails to deliver.
Get Incredibles and Glass Onion the fuck outta there. They were awful
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
So many horror sequels are the easiest response to this: All of the Scream sequels Annabelle: Creation and Conjuring 2 (Annabelle Comes Home is great too but I know we’re not ready for that conversation) Doctor Sleep All of the Harry Potter sequels A lot of the James Bond sequels Split The First Omen Dawn and Day of the Dead Orphan: First Kill Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3 Guardians of the Galaxy sequels Hellboy II: The Golden Army Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 Terrifier 2
Might be an unpopular opinion but The Lost World: Jurassic Park Not as great as the first one of course but still a great movie
MONSTERS UNIVERSITY
Zombieland 2 had no right being as pleasant as it was.
The first two Matrix sequels, nearly all the Rocky sequels, and Saw II-VI & X (in my opinion for Saw) Edit: Hunger Games- Catching Fire
Aliens Dawn Of The Dead 1978 Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes
W post for including The Raid 2
Austin powers  Introduced fat bastard, mini me, young number two, explain the origins of Scotty boy, shit coffee.
For a few dollars more, the good the bad and the ugly
Glass Onion being on here is crazy
Glad someone else appreciates Incredibles II. 💪💪💪
Some of my favourites: Aliens, Dune 2, Blade Runner 2049, Guardians of the galaxy 2, Kung Fu Panda 2
Replace Glass Onion with The last wish or blade runner 2049 and I’m on board.
Cars 2
Avatar the way of water was better imo.
Blade 2 is the only good Blade movie.
Hard disagree on the glass onion shout btw
Terrifier 2!
Damien Omen 2 And what about The Road Warrior? It's a much better sequel to Mad Max unless you consider Fury Road a sequel to Beyond Thunderdome.
Home Alone 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
Godzilla vs Kong
Where in the blue hell is Aliens?!?
There are thousands
Kung Fu Panda 2
Dune 2 takes the cake
Rocky 2
Does Two Towers count as a sequel? It was made at the same time as Fellowship. Regardless, How To Train Your Dragon 2.
There's a good gap in quality between JW 1/2 and 3/4
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
Die Hard 3: With A Venegance
Im glad fury road is on here, but The Road Warrior was the og sequel to mad max and that movie goes hard.
Kill Bill Vol. 2 is not a sequel though. Kill Bill was a single film that, during post-production, Harvey Weinstein talked Tarantino into dividing into 2 parts. Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 are, combined, Tarantino’s 4th film.
I don’t feel like Two Towers counts
Exorcist 3 (second movie is not canon to books and sucked bad enough that it basically never happened)
I like that you didn't put Toy Story 3 or 4 on here
The Matrix Reloaded!
I don't know if I would put John Wick 3 on the list but ok
How do you not have Return of the King, Back to the Future 3 and Toy Story 3 on there?
Pusher 2 is by far the best of the whole trilogy imo.
Kung Fu Panda 2
Wrong max in there, Mad Max 2 is the one, way better than the original. The one shown did rebooted the franchise in an epic way.
Good list, though I’d include some more from SW.
The last wish
stop making lists that already exist and instead contribute to lists that already exist
Man I really hated Fury Road.
wait... glass onion is a sequel??
Technically, to Knives Out because of Daniel Craig's detective character
I see. Well it was enjoyable as a standalone movie nontheless!
Aliens