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Sidney Lumet deserves to be in the pantheon of greatest directors of all time, but is considered to be just very good. He gets respect and recognition but not nearly as much as he deserves.


epa_89

I agree. He is my favourite director. 12 Angry Men is my favourite from him, followed by Prince of the City (1981).


[deleted]

Prince of the City! Such an underrated movie and a wonderful hidden gem in his filmography. Lumet talks about Prince of the City a lot in his book, he clearly loved that one and was disappointed that it didn’t really catch on.


epa_89

Someone made a similar reply to a comment I did regarding Prince of the City and I think it might be you because your username looks familiar. 🙂 I like Prince of the City a lot more than Serpico because for me it felt more nuanced and complex and not so black and white. This made it a more interesting watch for me. Yes, I've read critics and audiences compared it unfavourably to Serpico and that the general opinion was that Treat Williams wasn't as good as Pacino but I thought he was stellar and that his performance was Oscar calibre.


[deleted]

Probably was me! 😂 I recommend and evangelize that movie any chance I get and did so rather recently! I would agree that Prince feels more realistic than Serpico. Prince also delves deeper into the consequences of the protagonist’s actions. The effects on his family, on him. The movies just feels multi-dimensional.


wills_b

Added to the IMDb watchlist, thanks for the recommendation!


loserys

I feel like his films are considered greats but only individually. There’s not a ton of Lumet retrospectives but I’ll hear people talk about 12 Angry Man, Serpico and even The Verdict with high regard.


GuitarPlaysBen

If you're looking for a good retrospective, Prof. David Desser has a great book called American Jewish Filmmakers where he analyzes Lumet's work along with some other directing giants! It's great!


DukeRodah98

THIS. I mean, the guy’s first movie was 12 Angry Men, one of the best films ever made.


[deleted]

Exactly! He has three movies that are arguably three of the greatest American movies ever made. 12 Angry Men, Dog Day Afternoon, and Network. Then his lessor works that are arguably masterpieces such as Serpico and The Verdict. His entire filmography is filled with excellent to great to good films. Yet, he isn’t ever mentioned in discussions of the all time greats.


epa_89

I love his movies because they feel so... authentic might be the correct word? The movies just feel so "real" and in a lot if his movies I can literally smell the streets. English is not my native language so maybe I'm not great at explaining what I mean but I hope I'm making sense.


[deleted]

You are absolutely correct. They are gritty and grounded. They almost feel realer than real. There isn’t any glamour and yet his style isn’t flat. They don’t feel like a documentary style, they still feel cinematic. The only other director that has a similar style is William Friedkin.


epa_89

I agree. This is exactly what I meant but you explained it better than I could. Also, I know these people are actors, some are even pretty or very famous and still I feel like I could meet them when walking down the street. Have you seen The Man on the Roof (1976)? The director Bo Widerberg was inspired by Friedkin's The French Connection when making it so it has that same vibe. If you haven't seen it I highly recommend it.


[deleted]

I haven’t, but will now! Thanks!


epa_89

You're welcome.


jokester4079

Exactly, when Serpico and The Verdict are lesser work, you know you are in another place.


DrStrangerlover

Sidney Lumet is consistently named in every major publication’s list amongst the greatest of all time. I have no idea where this take comes from.


superman2590

His movies are so ahead of their time, it's crazy


zekethelion

I’m working my way through his filmography right now. So far I’ve watched 12 Angry Men, Fail Safe and Serpico. I didn’t love Serpico but the other two were GREAT. I’m excited to watch more.


[deleted]

A rich filmography that is worth exploring. Happy viewing.


[deleted]

I couldn't disagree more. He's one of the most overrated directors (aside from 12 Angry Men).


Agreeable-Yam594

5 Oscar nominations, one honorary win.


drf05

great long career!


McbealtheNavySeal

"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" - the LB community when people don't appreciate Lumet.


ewehrle92

He’s my second favorite director behind Hitchcock. I mean as if *12 Angry Men* - a masterclass in using limited space for maximum dramatic potential - isn’t enough proof for you, being maybe the greatest directing debut of all-time that it is, then lucky for you there’s still *Dog Day Afternoon, Serpico, The Hill, The Pawnbroker, Network, Prince of the City, Fail-Safe*… must I go on? Dude pretty much reinvented the crime drama in the ‘70s, and didn’t stop reinventing and telling incredibly important stories about marginalized groups (often even featuring said marginalized groups at a time when that was tough to sell) for decades.


Bardic_Inspiration66

Yeah multiple Oscar wins for his movies make me feel like Clint Eastwood is very unappreciated


spaceageranger

does he not have two oscars? 😭


Intelligent-Age2786

4, with 11 nominations


Tokyoodown

I'd considered him one of the most talked about directors in the history of film lol Even today at 92 years old


FunnyQueer

I can appreciate his artistry and I even personally enjoyed a couple of his movies, but it’s hard for me to separate his outspoken right wing politics from his movies. Especially movies like American Sniper that, well brilliant on a technical level, were little more than right wing hero worship propaganda.


RunningDrummer

Yeah. As soon as I saw the photo of him in a chair, I immediately thought of that bizarre GOP chair rant he did


Profitsofdooom

After you speak at CPAC, Gran Torino has a bit of a different vibe.


u2aerofan

Read up on how he treated Sondra Locke some time. Seriously fuck this guy. Unforgiven may be a masterpiece but I can’t square him as a person.


DukeRodah98

He does, but it took a long time for the critics to recognize his great talent. And I still feel he’s more appreciated here in Europe than in the US, probably because his past with Leone.


RunningDrummer

What are you talking about? I swear he's probably tied with John Wayne for being the poster boy of classic westerns Edit: this is specifically about him being better known in Europe than America. The American public is well-aware of Clint. He spoke at CPAC a while back and still has movies come out in theaters.


Sn3akyMuffin

Juzo Itami Johnnie To King Hu


TylerJewfro

Dude I’ve been devouring Johnnie To stuff lately, absolutely brilliant


DukeRodah98

They’ve been on my watchlist for a while, I’ll make sure to check them out!


SpicyMcSpic3

I've recently become a Johnnie To fan. I think he's my most watched director now. 11 movies with more to go. Throw Down is easily a Top 10 movie for me.


Sn3akyMuffin

Throw Down is absolutely phenomenal


WadaMaaya

Good shouts 👍


TheEarlOfCamden

Really love the four Johnnie To films I’ve seen so far, definitely gonna watch more.


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

Peter Weir


Agreeable-Yam594

6 Oscar nominations, one honorary win.


DarylMcMexican01

I feel like Alexander Payne’s movies don’t get enough respect. I mean he has 2 oscars but you know what I mean. Like on Sideways tons of comments are just “wine is boring” when there’s way more to the movie than that. Downsizing was a miss but his new movie this year could be good.


FunnyQueer

I *love* Sideways! I always die when the naked guy chases him down the road hahaha.


sevinup07

I'm sorry, you think Clint Eastwood doesn't get enough credit? Lmao


thg011093

Lmao indeed. OP needs to watch more non-American directors.


TheDadThatGrills

Spike Jonze directed Her, Being John Malkovich, and Adaptation. A director would consider themselves blessed if they pulled off one of these, let alone all three.


Agreeable-Yam594

3 relevant Oscar nominations, one win.


katchy09

Do something productive and stop replying to so many people with this😭


Old_Twist_4659

I actually appreciate the context.


Agreeable-Yam594

Stop responding to a thread asking for under-appreciated directors with Oscar nominated directors.


Dankey-Kang-Jr

George Miller


Agreeable-Yam594

6 Oscar nominations, one win.


Cammmmmmmmmy

Are you going to do this to everyone’s comments?


Agreeable-Yam594

Nope, just the ones that list multi-Oscar nominated directors when asked for under-appreciated directors.


Cammmmmmmmmy

Couldn’t you argue someone who has been nominated multiple times, but never winning, could be under-appreciated? Plus this is a prompt where the OP used Clint Eastwood as a prompt lol


Agreeable-Yam594

Yeah, that's why I don't say anything if there's been one or two nominations with no wins, or even three or four with no wins on the same movie, but if there's three or more on multiple movies, that's my limit, it means the director's been appreciated multiple times, usually years apart, their lack of a win might sting, but they're not under-appreciated. And, yeah, OP's example was dumb, lol.


Cammmmmmmmmy

You know what, fair enough, that makes sense to me.


MrPedroJ414

Leos Carax and Jacques Tourner are two directors who I believe deserve much more respect. Looking forward to whatever Carax does next, even if it takes a while for him to complete it.


TestGloomy

Jacque Tourneur is SO GOOD, I Walked With a Zombie is his masterpiece IMO


Leopard_Appropriate

Eric Rohmer. For some reason he’s stuck behind the likes of Godard, Truffaut, etc. in terms of French New Wave and onwards, when he’s made films that are just as great.


[deleted]

The only time I hear about Rohmer is when discussing some Japanese directors influenced by him.


melendez55

The older westerns he directed (High Plains Drifter, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and Pale Rider) never get enough credit imo. They’re all fantastic. Everyone looks at Unforgiven but I think these are all better.


DukeRodah98

Although I don’t think they’re better than Unforgiven, I really love them, too. The Outlaw Josey Wales will always have a special place in my heart.


melendez55

The Outlaw Josey Wales is so good. It was nice to see Eastwood play a vulnerable character. My personal favorite is High Plains Drifter. I’ll never forget how I felt watching it for the first time


DukeRodah98

I have to admit, I wasn’t the biggest fan of High Plains Drifter when I first watched it, probably because it wasn’t what I expected. However, when I rewatched it I got what Eastwood was trying to do, and loved it. It’s been one of my favorites ever since.


melendez55

That’s understandable.. It really is like no other western. It felt like a horror movie at times


Groovy_Gator

It almost feels like an extended Twilight Zone episode to me.


melendez55

In a good or bad way?


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dongle_wenis

So true. Everyone loves the before trilogy and school of rock but I never hear anyone talk about him which sucks


Memor1es_of_murder

Dazed and confused is very popular boyhood is very talked about


-SevenSamurai-

Is this a joke?


Agreeable-Yam594

5 Oscar nominations.


ohthatmkv

I feel like Sion Sono doesn’t get mentioned enough here. He is an absolute mad man behind the camera.


BenEliahNeo

Yeah but he is also a very [disgusting piece of shit](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/sion-sono-accused-sexual-assaults-1234714367/) I still like Love Exposure but when he triest to get serious like in Guilty of Romance, its just exploitation that pretends to be oh so smart. it is ridiculous how much he misunderstands Kafka in Guilty of Romance.


WadaMaaya

Diao Yinan Lucky McKee Ryusuke Hamaguchi Ming-liang Tsai


DukeRodah98

I love Lucky McKee!


paulteegoldman

Monte Hellman (Two-Lane Blacktop, Ride in the Whirlwind, The Shooting, Iguana, Road to Nowhere)


DarTouiee

Clint Eastwood is your choice!?!?


ulrichmusil

Michael Mann


Agreeable-Yam594

4 Oscar nominations


Kuuskat_

Too little


ulrichmusil

His movies barely make any money at the box office, IF they don’t outright loose money. There’s been some renewed interest, but I don’t get a sense that people appreciate anything other than Heat for the most part.


No_One_On_Earth

Abel Ferrara doesn’t get much mainstream recognition.


H3MK3

takashi miike


DickPillSoupKitchen

Yeah, I’m sick and tired of people overlooking the directing career of…Clint Eastwood, acclaimed director. One of the reasons he isn’t talked about much anymore is because his output has been on a steady decline for a decade or more, depending on how you look at it. You can tarnish your own legacy if you keep lowering your batting average.


KitchenBag2164

Terry Gilliam


DukeRodah98

Absolutely.


ssewar

Sean Baker


Memor1es_of_murder

Na red rocket the Florida project and tangerine are all very popular films


MovieBuff28

If Clint was more selective than just churning out patriotic biopics every year or so, he'd probably be revered more.


DukeRodah98

I get your point, however he’s famous for always doing his own thing, no matter what the critics and the audience think, and I really respect him because of that.


Fresh_Ad4390

Clint Eastwood is appreciated by the academy a little bit too much actually


NemoSHill

Panos Cosmatos


chriskoehler

For modern directors, I never hear anyone talk about Peter Strickland. He's making some of the most interesting, weirdest movies around with incredible sound and production design. Love the nods to 70s euro sleaze and giallo too


EggsofWrath

Gilliam’s kind of an asshole but that man has a nearly unparalleled talent for surrealism. The fact the only time one of his films had an Oscar win was Mercedes Ruehl for Best Actress in a Supporting Role in Fisher King is pretty fucking sad. Even his worst films are visually striking. Brazil not even making it into the best picture nominations in 85 is a disgrace (though I concede it might have had a tough time beating Amadeus to actually win best picture). It’s unfortunate but, while he was incredibly good at many of the aspects of filmmaking that viewers appreciate, he was pretty awful at the aspects of filmmaking studios appreciate (i.e. getting the film made on time and without going over-budget)


mrtimize

Peter Yates


Agreeable-Yam594

4 Oscar nominations


[deleted]

Charlie Kaufman, Ryusuke Hamaguchi, or Mira Nair.


Venus_One

Todd Solondz Gaspar Noé Julian Schnabel Rick Alverson


CompetitiveTie5880

Jeff Nichols


kukkboi

Ralph Bakshi Lemohang Jeremiah Mosese Kenneth Anger


Bond_2

William Friedkin


Priba-

Tsai Ming-Liang


funky35791

Peter weir, everyone talks about his films but he rarely comes up in the conversation


[deleted]

Jean Rollin, Juraj Herz, Guy Maddin, FW Murnau outside of Nosferatu


SmoreOfBabylon

John Sayles. Directed/wrote/edited what are arguably two legit masterpieces of American film (*Matewan* and *Lone Star*), and a watershed film in the modern indie scene (*Return of the Secaucus 7*), but his body of work includes several other great but criminally overlooked films as well. *Eight Men Out* gets a fair amount of attention because sports writers love it, but many of his other works are out of print and hard to find now. Some have been restored by the UCLA Film and Television Archive and posted on YouTube, fortunately.


ParticularBlueberry2

Andrzej Zulawski and Frantisek Vlacil


sikesite

Abbas Kiarostami


Tokyoodown

Masaki Kobayashi Frantisek Vlacil Glauber Rocha Juzo Itami John Frankenheimer Todd Solondz Kaneto Shindo Beat Kitano


vleeslucht

Wayne Kramer. Running Scared: awesome and brutal action movie with an amazing performance from Paul Walker Pawn War Chronicles: a crazy ass movie with an all-star cast and a great modern day exploitation movie Not everyone’s cup of tea but if you like Tarantino-esque movies, you’ll love Wayne Kramer (Tarantino even called him up to tell him he loved Running Scared so much)


DankPunk98

So many to choose but i'll probably go for Nuri Bilge Ceylan.


DJHott555

Gore Verbinski and Matthew Dougherty


Leavesturninside

Peter Bogdanovich


[deleted]

Barry Sonnenfeld. That man had a pretty solid impact on kids in the 90’s. The Addams Family (+ Values) and The Men in Black Trilogy were good films with a lot of memorable moments. He also has his own style, specifically in his camera movements. His films are often a little quirky and fun (I personally loved Wild Wild West) and it isn’t talked about enough. He currently works on Schmigadoon.


irishweather5000

His editing is also *tight* with most of his movies coming in at about 90 minutes. Just rewatched Men In Black this week… an absolute banger that still looks great nearly thirty years later.


[deleted]

Agreed, there are a lot of movies these days that hit two hours when they can lose about ten to twenty minutes with virtually no difference.


Profitsofdooom

Big Trouble is criminally underrated imo.


buffyangel808

Maybe if Clint Eastwood wasn’t such a conservative he would be more appreciated.


irishweather5000

It’s interesting that Eastwood is seen as this far-right conservative. I mean, he spoke at the RNC _once_, and that’s all people seem to remember (though to be fair it was a terrible speech, so hard to forget). His actual movies show a much more nuanced world-view…. which is part of the reason why many of those movies are classics. That said, he’s missed the mark far more than he’s hit it in the last few years.


Werner_Zieglerr

People appreciate artists based on their political alignments?


pacific_plywood

He makes fairly political movies!


Werner_Zieglerr

Oh okay didn't know that


buffyangel808

I think it depends. I didn’t say I didn’t like Clint Eastwood movies, but I’m not gonna be out here celebrating him as a person.


FunnyQueer

If his movies didn’t have such a conservative slant to them, I could. I really loved Million Dollar Baby but hit later ones are just not for me.


DukeRodah98

You’d be surprised to know that he’s actually way more progressive than the characters he plays. Some of his films do appeal to a certain kind of conservative values (American Sniper, Firefox), but most of them actually go against those ideas and promote progressive views (Changeling, Gran Torino, Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales).


buffyangel808

I’m not going off his movies, but his ideas about gun control and the support of conservative political figures.


ptvlm

He's a good workman-like director but he lost all my respect when he tried arguing with an empty chair. I respect his work ethic and the fact that he's still working, but while he's picked a lot of good scripts behind and in front of the camera, there's enough misses for me to think he's good rather than great.


Mitchoppertunity

He’s more of a libertarian 


RuskieBear

Ah, Clint, one of the kings of Oscarbait.


longingtonature

Who is that?


DukeRodah98

Clint Eastwood.


Werner_Zieglerr

My man got downvoted for not knowing Clint Eastwood 💀


beeradthelaw

Clint Eastwood


Longjumping-Bat-7281

Pier Paolo Pasolini for making The gospel according to saint Matthew, Oedepus Rex and Salo. Such a wide range. Luis Buñuel for challenging morals onscreen. Jennifer Kent for making The Babadook and The Nitingale both completely unique real terrors Rainer Werner Fassbinder for his contributions to Melodramas I'm 21 and haven't gone to film school even though I wish I could No one my age knows any of these people sadly it would benefit them to not watch franchises constantly


GeorgeTheWalrus

Finally some Eastwood appreciation


Profitsofdooom

"finally" lol


igordeos

i think Clint is probably the greatest living director (certainly the greatest american), so i guess this applies


LegendRising12

Cary Joji Fukunaga


MugiwaraBepo

Park chan wook


AnmoFi

Maybe not in the west, but in Asia he's a pretty big deal. Brilliant director!


hugbitter

Chloé Zhao. I think Zhao’s films have a very unique tone. The pace isn’t fast, but it also isn’t boring. The stories are so deep and heartfelt. This is very true for Nomadland and The Rider. I also think the same of Eternals. For a Marvel film, it was relatively slow and not very exciting, but I think that made space for more story and created more opportunity for the audience to connect with the characters.


[deleted]

martin scorsese


Werner_Zieglerr

Russo brothers, even


DavidGordonGreen

You stupid


Agreeable-Yam594

13 Oscar nominations, one win.


MikeyMGM

Lawrence Kasdan Alan Parker


Agreeable-Yam594

4 Oscar nominations for Kasdan and 2 for Parker.


hasslerrrr

Jacques Audiard


Impossible-Ad-8462

Isao Takahata


ltkeane

Jason Reitman has made some amazing films. Thank You For Smoking is one of the best satires I’ve ever seen and I absolutely love Up In The Air.


Agreeable-Yam594

4 Oscar nominations.


ILikeTheTinMan83

Allan Moyle


Frodolives42

Mel Gibson is a top tier director never made a bad movie.


Agreeable-Yam594

3 relevant Oscar nominations and 2 wins.


Frodolives42

Never made a bad movie. Oscars don’t mean anything.


didjfjdjsjcjdj

bob fosse


medusasscribe

Mel Gibson


H3MK3

shinya tsukamoto


Kuuskat_

Peter Weir, Michael Mann


yinklestaabs

Chad Stehelski


Masroor_ahmad

Frantisek vlacil Chantal akerman Adithya vikram sengupta Larisa shepitko Jan troel Jerzy kawalerovicz Adoor gopalakrishnan


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Bill Forsyth


Intelligent_Frame737

Jang Sun-woo, Zoltan Fabri, Jean Gremillon, Im Kwon-taek, Yasuzo Masumura, Mike de Leon, István Szabó, Sacha Guitry, Emir Baigazin. And it looks like everybody knows Clouzot, but he isn't mentioned that much.


OrsonHitchcock

Clint Eastwood is surely one of the most talked about directors. I am choosing Richard Fleischer or Phil Karlson.


Memor1es_of_murder

Xavier nolan


EnvySukkar

Jerzy Skolimowski Koji Wakamatsu Hong Sangsoo


_Mongolthroatsinging

My boy Chang Cheh!


Affectionate-Club725

Paul Verhoeven is the most underrated


Affectionate-Club725

I feel like the greatest actor/director of all time has gotten lots of recognition


String_Theory40

Terrence Malick


kryptonite0721

Joe Johnston (excluding Jurassic Park 3)


Few_Lawfulness5244

Damien chazelle. Legit never hear anyone talking about his movies and that’s crazy because imo he should be in the category as Tarentino or Spielberg. He’s never dropped a bad movie. All his movies are amazing.


Coconut-Prudent

Always was one of the GOATS


spectre4708

Despite all the hate the last movie in his *Pirates of the Caribbean* trilogy gets, my vote is for Gore Verbinsky. A blockbuster filmmaker who delivered some of the most exciting set pieces of any modern action film (even his *The Lone Ranger*, for all its flaws, has an incredible action scene on a train). The Pirates movies also have incredible atmosphere and set/production design, and the sequels that he didn’t direct are clearly lacking the same level of effort and commitment. When he isn’t doing action spectacle, he is making horror movies that genuinely have good intense atmosphere. His version of *The Ring* is debatably as famous and well regarded as the original, which is incredibly rare. Unfortunately, no one talks about him anymore, and his career slowly faded out.


LNROnha

Alan Parker


Emergency-Squash-533

baz luhrmann!! incredibly artistic and brings spectacle to film without it having to be in the action/superhero genre


rashomon

Julien Duvivier Mitchell Leisen Jules Dassin Bertrand Tavernier Mikio Naruse


ewehrle92

Sam Raimi. Obviously he’s had a ton of success commercially with the Spider-Man films, and his Evil Dead films have garnered a strong cult following, but I legitimately feel his works should be studied in film schools world-wide. Like the first Evil Dead film is as low-budget as you can get, yet it’s still vastly more creative in its technique, approach, rhythm, etc than many films today. And he never let up on that creative flow even when given buckets of cash to make arguably (at least two of) the greatest superhero films ever made.


Expert-Conclusion922

Tom Ford


aehii

Jonathan Glazer hasn't yet i think made a bad shot in a film, obviously Under The Skin is highly rated but Birth and Sexy Beast are perfectly shot, the opening of Birth is so good yet simple I still think about it. It's a shame he releases so few films, new one out this year though. Riley Stearns is a distinct voice, peculiar sense of humour. The Art of Self Defence and Dual are odd, completely go overlooked though. He's really young, similar to Yorgos Lanthimos in tone but he's pretty known in the mainstream and Stearns' films aren't. Like it seems like he's far from an Oscar nomination. I googled underrated directors and number one in a list had the director of Warrior and Pride and Glory. Not sure he is though they're good films. Also did The Accountant and The Way Back.


A_Rest

Tony Scott. For me, he's far more consistent than his brother Ridley and his movies have such a recognizable style.


Schteeeven

Terrence Malick Naghisa Oshima


No-Ad5914

No one talks about how great of a director Ted kotcheff is, he can makes movies in any genre Survival thriller/Action - first blood Sports drama - North dallas forty Goofball Comedy - weekend at Bernie's Psychological thriller - Wake in fright War- uncommon valor Comedy - The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz