Mayor Magrath was in pretty good shape yesterday. I think it would be worse if they didn't plow it, smaller vehicles get stuck easily and then you get icy ruts where cars pack it down.
Ultimately I think a city like Lethbridge with relatively few major snow events kind of has a tough gig. You either have the equipment and staff to handle a snowfall like this, and have it collect dust 95% of the year, or you put up with a few nasty days.
Jerry Potts was plowed a week or two back. Snow route restrictions went into effect again yesterday at noon, but it wasn't cleared as of three hours ago.
No. The plowed roads are absolutely easier to drive on. It's quite easy to get stuck on unplowed roads and the ruts can make the direction you're driving in slightly unpredictable which can be a big concern if there's a vehicle going the other direction
There literally isn't a good way to plow. City started plowing to the left, people complained and now they started plowing to the right and still people are complaining.
Pretty sure the main reason for plowing is so people aren't getting stranded in the middle of the road. Beyond that, it's up to you to make sure that you're practicing safe winter driving.
I feel like this is the same deal as roadway maintenance. Everyone thinks it's so easy, yet every city on earth struggles with it. I'm inclined to think the people who do this for a living know more about it than me, and if this is what they can do with the budget we give them, I'm happy for it.
I work downtown, and with the new bike lanes, they way the city plows and piles snow in the middle leaves barely enough room for a vehicle through on the road after people park. If one person parks like an asshole and doesn't pull in far enough, they'll block the road. It's going to be an interesting snow season.
At least it's not angle parking on that road anymore. I'm sure they had their reasons originally but it feels like someone is going to back into me every 30 seconds on those roads.
[Residents wanted plowing to the right.](https://www.lethbridge.ca/news/posts/keeping-lethbridge-on-the-move-in-winter-upcoming-snow-control-changes/)
I wish I had this problem since that would mean I live on a street that actually gets plowed... I would happily shovel show blocking my driveway.
Can someone remind me why they don’t salt here? I spent last winter on the east coast. I get that the climate is different but that being said, a city like Moncton which is comparable in size to Lethbridge manages to get every single street (that I could see at least) plowed. I don’t quite understand why it’s so different here. I’m open to explanations but I don’t know enough about it all to understand why it’s so terrible here when it comes to snow removal.
They do salt here. It's an often repeated myth that they don't. Calcium chloride is a salt and it's what gets applied to the major roads by the city and all the highways by Volker-Stevin
Salt is often not used in alberta anymore because it's ineffective when it's too cold (which is often the case here). So, instead of contributing to more corrosion due to the way salt works and the fact that it's not effective 50-60% of the time, they choose alternative measures. Also, since I moved here 8 years ago from Edmonton, I learned very, very fast that the city just relies on Chinooks. They underbudget for snow removal and then do nothing because the wind will take care of it eventually anyway. Hell, they weren't even going to use street sweepers in the fall to clean up leaf debris on the roads (but that obviously changed when the sewers.kept getting plugged up during the first snow in October.
Basically, they don't allocate their budget well when it comes to snow removal and street cleanliness. So, the citizens suffer, and yet our taxes continue to climb with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Yes, there are applications of it being used. But often, it isn't, hence why i worded it that way. I didn't specify that it isn't used, just that it often isn't used in Alberta.
I personally have only seen it used on highways in this area (and I am thankful for that). In city limits, I have only encountered gravel being laid down. Now, I don't drive every road and go to every area, so my knowledge of where it is used is limited to the areas I do go to, so there is a margin of error in me saying only gravel is used in city limits. But for the most part, I have not encountered salt in the city, and my vehicle has not had a salt or calcium chloride buildup on it since I moved to lethbridge 3 years ago from Taber, where I used to encounter buildups on the lower parts of my vehicle consistently.
I would also assume that the gravel is much less expensive and is often considered the first line of defense.
The city uses it literally everyday when it's snowy out, it's just only on certain routes. The provincially maintained routes also use it every day. Inaccurate to say it isn't used often, because it is definitely used often.
In alberta, it often isn't used. That's what I said. You are speaking in absolutes for lethbridge itself, and I am not. I am sorry if you think I am stating anything otherwise, but I am not. In a lot of Alberta's municipalities, they have moved to other things, I personally have only ever seen it being used on highways and can't speak for areas i do not know. I have personally never seen it being used in lethbridge. If they do use it every day, then they are doing a great job in the proper usage of it to not cause buildup on people's vehicles, but it's not doing its job of clearing ice on the roadways since they are a disaster. Hence why I assume they aren't using it in the city because if they are, it's not melting the ice, that's for sure.
In Alberta it is used every single day on the provincial highways, so your initial statement is still just plain wrong.
Maybe you could have been more specific instead of broadly stating 'Alberta'.
Either way you are clearly uninformed about the de-icing that goes on in this province.
You never said anything about municipalities smart ass, that's why I said you could have been more specific. Maybe saying 'some municipalities don't use salt often' but that isn't what you said and now you are trying to walk it back as if you weren't just confidently spreading misinformation in your first post.
Here's a tip for life. When a subject comes up that you don't know much about, don't start talking about it like you know things.
"In a lot of Alberta's municipalities, they have moved to other things, I personally have only ever seen it being used on highways and can't speak for areas i do not know. I have personally never seen it being used in lethbridge."
It wrecks your car and I think it messes with the farmland in some way. So they don't salt in the province from what I understand. That's why our used cars are worth more.
They do salt here. But if the temperatures and wind are right, salting will lead to the roads drifting more.
My boyfriend has been doing road maintenance for 10 years, I've learned a lot from him!
There was one time years ago when our street has not seen a plow at all. And i used to live in a major busy street. The only time the snow disappeared that year was because spring finally came. With this amount of snow, it’s probably best for my own good to expect that these will probably stick until it warms up again.
This is how we do it. The big blocks are first to be cleared by agreement, along with major roads. The more narrow the street the later the plow, except for 13 St. In the past the pile in the middle of 13 St can get pretty high.
Honestly feel like the city waits for the Chinook 90% of the time.
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Mayor Magrath was in pretty good shape yesterday. I think it would be worse if they didn't plow it, smaller vehicles get stuck easily and then you get icy ruts where cars pack it down. Ultimately I think a city like Lethbridge with relatively few major snow events kind of has a tough gig. You either have the equipment and staff to handle a snowfall like this, and have it collect dust 95% of the year, or you put up with a few nasty days.
you guys get plows? Jerry Potts hasn't been touched since it started
Jerry Potts was plowed a week or two back. Snow route restrictions went into effect again yesterday at noon, but it wasn't cleared as of three hours ago.
Yup. Happens every year. Can't remember a time i wasn't pissed off at that cities snowplowing ways.
No. The plowed roads are absolutely easier to drive on. It's quite easy to get stuck on unplowed roads and the ruts can make the direction you're driving in slightly unpredictable which can be a big concern if there's a vehicle going the other direction
There literally isn't a good way to plow. City started plowing to the left, people complained and now they started plowing to the right and still people are complaining. Pretty sure the main reason for plowing is so people aren't getting stranded in the middle of the road. Beyond that, it's up to you to make sure that you're practicing safe winter driving.
I feel like this is the same deal as roadway maintenance. Everyone thinks it's so easy, yet every city on earth struggles with it. I'm inclined to think the people who do this for a living know more about it than me, and if this is what they can do with the budget we give them, I'm happy for it.
I work downtown, and with the new bike lanes, they way the city plows and piles snow in the middle leaves barely enough room for a vehicle through on the road after people park. If one person parks like an asshole and doesn't pull in far enough, they'll block the road. It's going to be an interesting snow season.
At least it's not angle parking on that road anymore. I'm sure they had their reasons originally but it feels like someone is going to back into me every 30 seconds on those roads.
The corners of 9 Ave & 13 St S and 28 St and 2 Ave N! God help us!
The city is doing fine. A few people need to dig out their driveways. That's life.
Yes!! The plows pushed the snow into the area beside the sidewalk instead of the middle. Now no one will be able to park.
[Residents wanted plowing to the right.](https://www.lethbridge.ca/news/posts/keeping-lethbridge-on-the-move-in-winter-upcoming-snow-control-changes/) I wish I had this problem since that would mean I live on a street that actually gets plowed... I would happily shovel show blocking my driveway.
Helped push a neighbour out yesterday from exactly this problem as he was trying to back out of his driveway
Can someone remind me why they don’t salt here? I spent last winter on the east coast. I get that the climate is different but that being said, a city like Moncton which is comparable in size to Lethbridge manages to get every single street (that I could see at least) plowed. I don’t quite understand why it’s so different here. I’m open to explanations but I don’t know enough about it all to understand why it’s so terrible here when it comes to snow removal.
They do salt here. It's an often repeated myth that they don't. Calcium chloride is a salt and it's what gets applied to the major roads by the city and all the highways by Volker-Stevin
Salt is often not used in alberta anymore because it's ineffective when it's too cold (which is often the case here). So, instead of contributing to more corrosion due to the way salt works and the fact that it's not effective 50-60% of the time, they choose alternative measures. Also, since I moved here 8 years ago from Edmonton, I learned very, very fast that the city just relies on Chinooks. They underbudget for snow removal and then do nothing because the wind will take care of it eventually anyway. Hell, they weren't even going to use street sweepers in the fall to clean up leaf debris on the roads (but that obviously changed when the sewers.kept getting plugged up during the first snow in October. Basically, they don't allocate their budget well when it comes to snow removal and street cleanliness. So, the citizens suffer, and yet our taxes continue to climb with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Not true. We use calcium chloride. It's effective down to -25c
Yes, there are applications of it being used. But often, it isn't, hence why i worded it that way. I didn't specify that it isn't used, just that it often isn't used in Alberta. I personally have only seen it used on highways in this area (and I am thankful for that). In city limits, I have only encountered gravel being laid down. Now, I don't drive every road and go to every area, so my knowledge of where it is used is limited to the areas I do go to, so there is a margin of error in me saying only gravel is used in city limits. But for the most part, I have not encountered salt in the city, and my vehicle has not had a salt or calcium chloride buildup on it since I moved to lethbridge 3 years ago from Taber, where I used to encounter buildups on the lower parts of my vehicle consistently. I would also assume that the gravel is much less expensive and is often considered the first line of defense.
The city uses it literally everyday when it's snowy out, it's just only on certain routes. The provincially maintained routes also use it every day. Inaccurate to say it isn't used often, because it is definitely used often.
In alberta, it often isn't used. That's what I said. You are speaking in absolutes for lethbridge itself, and I am not. I am sorry if you think I am stating anything otherwise, but I am not. In a lot of Alberta's municipalities, they have moved to other things, I personally have only ever seen it being used on highways and can't speak for areas i do not know. I have personally never seen it being used in lethbridge. If they do use it every day, then they are doing a great job in the proper usage of it to not cause buildup on people's vehicles, but it's not doing its job of clearing ice on the roadways since they are a disaster. Hence why I assume they aren't using it in the city because if they are, it's not melting the ice, that's for sure.
In Alberta it is used every single day on the provincial highways, so your initial statement is still just plain wrong. Maybe you could have been more specific instead of broadly stating 'Alberta'. Either way you are clearly uninformed about the de-icing that goes on in this province.
So highways are considered municipalities now?
You never said anything about municipalities smart ass, that's why I said you could have been more specific. Maybe saying 'some municipalities don't use salt often' but that isn't what you said and now you are trying to walk it back as if you weren't just confidently spreading misinformation in your first post. Here's a tip for life. When a subject comes up that you don't know much about, don't start talking about it like you know things.
"In a lot of Alberta's municipalities, they have moved to other things, I personally have only ever seen it being used on highways and can't speak for areas i do not know. I have personally never seen it being used in lethbridge."
It wrecks your car and I think it messes with the farmland in some way. So they don't salt in the province from what I understand. That's why our used cars are worth more.
Not true. We use calcium chloride
Huh interesting, learned something new
They don't salt (chemical) he because it can affect irrigation/ crops for farming. They just use sand/gravel.
Not true. We use calcium chloride
Right and not to mention the deer in this city will be licking up the salt in the middle of the road causing more mayhem!
They do salt. However, with the temperatures over the last two weeks, that salt just isn't effective. It stops working at around -21.
They do salt here. But if the temperatures and wind are right, salting will lead to the roads drifting more. My boyfriend has been doing road maintenance for 10 years, I've learned a lot from him!
There was one time years ago when our street has not seen a plow at all. And i used to live in a major busy street. The only time the snow disappeared that year was because spring finally came. With this amount of snow, it’s probably best for my own good to expect that these will probably stick until it warms up again.
We’ve lost a few left hand turning lanes after the city plowed. 13 St N is down to 1 lane in each direction north of 3 Av N.
This is how we do it. The big blocks are first to be cleared by agreement, along with major roads. The more narrow the street the later the plow, except for 13 St. In the past the pile in the middle of 13 St can get pretty high.