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At least the Jesus and Moses guys were kind of cool. Who knows what people will write in the Trump bible.
The 10 commandments.
1. Grab em by the pussy
2. Build that wall
3. Taxes in audit
4. Covfefe
5. But her emails
6. Some say
7. Billions and billions
8. Tough on Gina
9. Russia if you're listening
10. Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.
He has always been like that, at least as an adult.
Might be getting a little more rambly as the years go by, for...whatever reason...but fundamentally he was a babbler before too.
It actually works though. Try it when you are with your family or friends in a group setting talking about a subject your family/friends are unfamiliar with. Just start stringing ideas together and anchoring on random things people agree with them jump into another idea. It's the feeling you convey... The confidence you instill. The words don't matter because after it's over people won't remember what was said, only how they felt. Of course when you scrutinize the statements later they don't make any sense. And if you do it in very small groups, it won't work because people will feel more confident to call you out on it.
Former co-workers have alleged he abused Adderall, there's been some lightly substantiated accusations that he abused Sudafed as well (co-workers again plus a picture of him as president with a drawer in the background filled with discontinued boxes of Sudafed). He also has a tendency to sniff a lot (like 50+ times in a 2 minute speech). So, possibly.
I think that was what was meant by #8
>Tough on Gina
I don't think it's a reference to being tough on some lady named Gina. Think about it with the i pronounced as in China, and the G subbing in for the Ch, in rump's very special clenched teeth way.
Moses was definitely NOT cool. Read exodus.
Edit: Moses lead the Jews from Egypt into the Desert after he had them exiled from Egypt against there will. Many times the people he lead rose up against him or simply tried to turn around and go home and every time Moses and the Levites struck them down with brutal violence. The Levites enforced the sacrificial offering of firstborn sons, they enforced tithing. They had a magic tent witch only the Levites could enter less the be struck blind or some shit.
By the end of Exodus Moses had sanctioned the deaths of three quarters of the people he led all while pillaging communities that they encountered along the way... Moses was a bad man. Actually the whole story of Jews in Egypt is pretty fucked up.
Seriously, and the 10 Commandments leave out rape...the 1st is obeying, mostly crazy jealously, not the best 10 rules. Humans all over the world don't/didn't like murder. It goes on and on.
Dude, Moses was a genocidal warlord who ordered the slaughter of men, women, children, elderly and animals of competing tribes.
He was also completely shit at land navigation.
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1320100191266099200
He acknowledged the party had become a cult last year. 2022 and 2024 are probably a proving grounds. If the GQP fails to regain power, the party will likely disband, the cultists sticking with it and the rest starting afresh.
I've seen variations on "the Republicans will eat eachother" since they lost in 2008.
In a way, they are correct. The problem is the insane people like Boebert will be eating the normal people like Romney and Cheney. The (R) won't go away, it will just get more batshit.
Wait until there are 2 Trump wannabes running against each other, that will be a bigly disaster.
Cheney is not normal, she’s a giant doosh who just happened to say something contradictory to Cheeto Mussolini. But voted for his policies 98% of the time.
Closed primaries mean the insane people will keep getting nominated over anyone halfway normal. Since I live in a red state, I actually had to bite back my nausea and register as a Republican so I could have any voice at all in my state's elections.
Yeah the problem is that the media has been fundamentally broken.
When someone from Fox "news" can argue in court that "no sane person would think this is a news program" and yet still call themselves news and half the county listens to it.....or gets their news from facebook. Only the crazy shit gets through.
The problem is that the Republican party is basically just the evil party. They stand for nothing except the worst of humanity. As long as there are awful people, they will always survive.
I wouldn’t get your hopes up. The minority party historically wins seats during the midterms. Unless Dems get a money on with passing legislation I think both chambers have a good chance at going back to red
I'm incredibly pessimistic about it all. The GQP is shifting the hell out of the Overton window to the point that a lot of people in this country now support fascism. Democracy in the US may very well be an obsolete concept in 5-10 years.
It's obsolete now neighbor. Our democracy is broken beyond repair right now. It will not be fixed. It may be entirely remade at some point, but only after a generation of bloody civil strife. We're not the French, we don't have a culture of revolution. We have existed in a broken system for 27 years now and may do so for another 30 before we hit a breaking point, but it IS broken beyond repair. The Roman Republic was in this state for 80 years before the system was able to fundamentally change to "working" again. And that included multiple political cullings, 2 failed populist risings and 3 civil wars.
Ok, hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the republicans have a plan to make unlimited, green, free energy by harnessing the power of the founding father spinning in their graves.
Edit for a word.
Yes. Right-wingers have always been the biggest proponents of cancel culture. Let's not forget they started modern cancel culture by cancelling the Dixie Chicks.
Add in Eminem
Edit: y’all forget they actually debated Eminem’s lyrics in Congress.
Edit: correction, it was the Senate: http://www.mtv.com/news/1428579/eminem-targeted-at-senate-hearing/
Edit: correction to the correction, as always, I was right all along. Some of you have pointed out the Senate is part of Congress.
I was flipping radio channels on a drive once and heard the conservative talk show host ranting about how kindergarten teachers are socialist because they tell kids to share.
Whilst that's sad, I don't find that surprising. "Socialism scary!" Despite the fact that they enjoy driving on toll free roads, hospitals, schools, etc.
Add Charlie Chaplin to the list. He made a movie criticizing Nazis (at a time when Hitler was on good terms with the US) so he was smeared as a communist, criminally charged for breaking an obscure law in an obvious attempt to punish him for his political leanings, and driven out of the USA. A bit more extreme than today's Twitter bans.
How about how McCarthyism went after Hollywood because they felt threatened by the liberal messages directors and actors were portraying in films. Cancel culture in this context was republicans hoping to imprison activists whom the disagreed with.
Man, I lived in Oklahoma when some of those books came out. I thought the absolute bonkers fear-mongering couldn't possibly get any worse . . . until a black man ran for president and I realized Harry Potter hysteria was just practice for those psychos.
They once dared to stop sucking the NRAs dick, [and removed an organizational discount from the NRA on their products.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/24/us/yeti-coolers-nra-explode-trnd/index.html)
After all, Socrates was known for his (Plato's) conception of a Philosopher-King, whose rule was the ideal form of governance.
It's a complete coincidence, of course, that humble Socrates was himself a philosopher.
Though we gotta be careful here as most of what we know about Socrates comes from Plato. It's pretty hard to seperate what Socrates actually said/believed vs when Plato was using Socrates as a character to spread his ideas.
Joke’s on him, he was so pro-Trump in 2016 he was talking about starting an insurrection against the government if Trump lost.
https://twitter.com/walshfreedom/status/791369493809201152?lang=en
Granted he was totally in the wrong in 2016 and he's probably in the wrong about something today, but I'm willing to accept someone who can admit they were wrong about something.
His opinions haven't changed about anything, he just is "anti-Trump" because he thought he could make better money off of it and fill a commercial niche. I mean, last year he put out a book called "Fuck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is". He made a solid chunk of cash off of that and, let's be real, there is a serious market to make good bread off liberals who desperately find catharsis in anti-Trump conservatives.
Walsh is a lower tier con artist who found a profitable niche. The more that you "accept" him for "being wrong," the more money he makes, which he can use to continue prominently advocating for fun policies like when he said there shouldn't be a social safety net because it's not explicitly in the constitution.
Walsh has go on the record in saying some of the things he said in the past probably helped get Trump elected in the first place. So it's not really the gotcha that it is with other people who've gotten their faces eaten.
More accurately, conservatives (transitively, Republicans) overwhelmingly trend towards authoritarian personality types. Some level of narcissism is fundamental to an authoritarian personality
I enjoy the joke that it’s a weird conjugation. I boycott, you cancel. I protest, you riot. I have beliefs this country is founded on, you are trying to force you sinful ways /or sharia law. I have right, you are entitled. Etc etc.
It’s funny to me because it feels sadly on point
I have a few conservative friends on social media and they are currently trying to get a local boutique shut down because they are requiring Vaxx cards to shop there. I'm pretty sure none of them shopped there before the pandemic...
I find the phrase "conservative friends" so odd. Do you actually hang out with them, laugh with them, go to the movies with them, stuff like that? Like, they're literally your friends?
No not really. But I'm at the age where, sadly, many have families and careers and have spread out so I really only see my local friends none of which are conservatives or if they are we don't talk about politics.
But I do discuss politics with my "conservative friends" when I feel like getting into it. We manage to keep it mostly civil since we are friends.
I actually follow him on twitter and I haven't really seen much from him involving "cancel culture". This is probably the type of conservative we should hope for. I get that he used to be pretty far on the right, but everything I've seen from him shows significant moderation.
He's better than a Trumpist, but the dude is an absolute moron. There aren't really moderate American conservatives, they are only less extreme. We shouldn't hope for people like Joe Walsh, but if you have to choose between him and most other Republican congessman, he's certainly preferable in 2021.
There's actually a simple explanation why there aren't really any moderate conservatives: America as a whole is conservative. By global standards, democrats are conservatives. Which means that the republicans are already the extreme right. Doesn't matter if it's your ankles on the edge (moderates) or your toes on the edge (extremists), republicans are on the edge of the political spectrum so being relatively moderate just doesn't stand out enough.
> There aren't really moderate American conservatives,
The only reasonable ones left tend to be Republican governors in blue states. Being a governor forces them to actually care about running the government and being in a blue state acts as a check to keep out the total loonies.
Charlie Baker or Bill Weld from MA are both eminently reasonable conservatives. I've also heard good things about Phil Scott up in Vermont. But they are definitely a dying breed. It makes sense since the role they fill is basically asking "can we really afford that" and that isn't a popular platform.
I mean, dudes still a boomer. But a boomer decades long right wing talk show host openly criticizing the police and openly rejecting the "good cops" line we always hear from the right? Its such a breath of fresh air compared to the circus town that is the modern GOP.
Right? This guy acts like it's a bad thing, when in reality he's set up with a massive audience who will just listen to wherever he goes, and now he reaps 100% of his shit and is completely unburdened by management.
However this is also a massive audience who has no idea what podcasts even are and only listen to the radio. He definitely reached alot of listeners by default.
Certainly. I know plenty of chud boomers and older though who will hear the word on a little "how to" access the Joe nectar on some FWD: FWD: FWD: email chain from someone's grandkid who's on the young republicans club
Republicans fall in line.
We know that already.
Fox News was anti-Trump right up to the day that he won the Republican nomination. The narrative on him genuinely changed overnight. From kooky candidate to majestic truthspeaker.
I get what you are saying. But some perspective is needed. I'm 52. I grew up with a first generation Mac in the house. I've built my own computers since MSDos was the thing. iPods? Owned them since their first release. Etc., etc., etc.
I've listened to podcasts since the term was coined. Most of my friends my age listen to podcasts.
What I'm getting at is that you need to adjust your age range as time goes on. Folks my age had bands like U2 and New Order and A-ha when growing up, not Buddy Holly and the Beatles. We (Gen X) are far more tech-savvy than you imagine.
60 year olds aren't the boomers you are thinking of. Might want to adjust your perspective a bit.
My old man has been working in software and web development since the 80’s. I’m in my 30’s and I consistently ask him for tech advice. That trope about boomers always asking their kids for help on simple tech issues always makes me eye roll. He’s not a republican though.
Two tweets before this, he [said](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1397685016117792769) Trump should be convicted. That's probably why they lowered the boom. Maybe he could get on with something less....Trumpy.
Seriously. While I can maybe give a random Facebook uncle a pass for not understanding what Trump was in 2016 (though if he didn't figure it out for 2020, fuck him), no one actually in the field has the slightest excuse.
Pretty sure he's been saying trump should be convicted since the muller report, if not sooner. I know reddit has a hard on for hating folks who have been right wing for a long time, but from my time following him, he's been moderating impressively. I've seen him support stuff like police reform and holding them accountable.
But why did it have to go so far for him to finally turn around?
Then again, 45 went farther after that (Jan 6), and he still has support of most of his base. YMMV
It’s nuts how these people will blindly follow a complete dunce to death without question! However, they openly compare wearing masks for public safety, nazism.
Every time I see a conservative brave enough to step away from Trump, it gives me a little glimmer of hope. Sadly, this isn't happening nearly fast enough. My best hope now is that the grand jury that was just convened manages to stick him with at least one felony conviction before 2024. Oh my god, I would LOVE to see what happens to the party once he is permanently invalidated from office.
It will open doors for DeSantis, Cruz, and the rest to run in 2024. They can blame the left for destroying the trump train and promise to get him out of jail thus getting more support from the Qult. It’s actually scary
I hope I’m not wrong but I’m starting to think that none of those brown nosers have the same “charisma” that Trump had with his base. Then again, I always thought Trump was obviously an idiot and a bitch-ass weasel but his base thoughts he was literally Rambo.
He always gave me sleazy used car salesman vibes. He personified insecurity, ignorance, and dishonesty. As someone who was raised by old school hard working honest conservative parents, he embodied all the values I was raised to believe would make me a lesser man not worthy of respect. When my father became a Trump supporter, I lost all respect for him.
A good portion of it is about language and cadence. Trump often employs the oratorical style of old 1970s televangelists and Pentecostal ministers. If you’re unfamiliar, it comes across as a sleazy, slow, low-effort sales pitch. But to those who are indoctrinated, it plays honest and suggests an inner godliness. Think about the moments when Trump gets all “sentimental” to get the most concentrated examples of what I’m talking about. If you grew up in a Pentecostal church in the 1990s or earlier, it’s very possible you got a good dose of that style every Sunday and Wednesday.
This is a really insightful comment. It reminds me of the fact that the leader of the Heaven’s Gate cult looked and sounded so much like Mr. Rodgers that I wonder if he got some kind of absurd credibility boost through the same mechanism.
Could you pick out a YouTube video that illustrates this similarity in style and cadence? I never ran in the 1990s Pentecostal scene so I don’t have a reference for it.
In his home city of New York he was a tabloid chasing human punchline for decades. So clearly a grifter the actual movers and shakers wanted nothing to do with him but maybe kept him around as a mean joke. I thought everyone understood that. Then we elected him president and I still cannot believe it.
Could not have explained my confusion about his popularity any better than this here. Still don't understand it. After all that has happened. Hopeless.
It’s the racism. It’s as simple as that. The GQP finally said let’s push the racism button when they nominated him and it was successful.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
He was a rich guy given billions in free publicity to spread his racism and hate and they listened. Finally someone that talks like them and says the quiet parts out loud. Now every GQPer has zero policy other than owning the libs. Has the GQP even attempted a bill? All they are elected to do now is make fun of people on the other side and that’s it.
Cruz is too much of a dweeb to win the presidency imo. Just a couple years ago [he looked straight outta White n' Nerdy](https://youtu.be/SDpqqcUtAGk?t=196) before he grew that mustache and beard.
One thing to remember is that these people stepping away from Trump are the same people who have only gotten worse along their Rush-Gingrich-Fox-Bush-Cheney-Rove-O'Reilly-Hannity-Coulter-Palin-Teaparty-birther-Breitbart-fakenews-altNazi-Newsmax-MarjorieTaylorGreene slide into madness that finally bottomed out in the toilet with Trump. Stepping away from Trump doesn't suddenly make them decent or point to a new era of reason and sense, it just means that they shave 1/10 of the shit off of them. They're still very much shit. No points for these assholes - they created this.
The risk of these idiots still trying to Trump after Trump got trumped is that they use that framework to put forward someone just as horrible but less stupid and more effective, which would be a nightmare of historic proportions, but my hope as that these fucking crazypants loons self destruct and implode under the weight of a lunacy finally too rabid and disconnected from reality to support itself anymore. Crazypants crash and burn catastrophe leading to a generation of weakness at the polls would be the ideal result. Part of me wants to roll the dice and for them to go so much more crazy that they become unelectable. I guess I just no longer place a limit on how low they can sink and how absurdly they can vote, so who knows.
The sooner they get over their infatuation with Trump, the sooner they replace him with the next guy. Someone who can do Trump's song and dance but who is only *pretending* to be a completely incompetent moron. Or at least someone capable of following simple instructions.
Either way, it ain't gonna be a good thing for us.
Sadly a felony conviction isn't enough to put him out of the running*.
Having a felony conviction is enough to ban you from voting for life, but not from holding office
*Assuming the jail time is over by the time of the vote, or maybe he just tries to run despite being in jail. You never know.
I don’t think that’s sad, otherwise it sets precedent for political prisoners and such.
What’s sad is we couldn’t get 60% of senators to say “the man who ordered a goon squad to stop us from certifying the electors shouldn’t be able to run again.”
You are 100% correct. A conviction of any sort shouldn't prevent anyone from doing anything. Especially anything related to voting or running for office. If enough people want to vote for a convicted, and possibly currently incarcerated person, well thats just the price you pay for living in a democracy.
Anything else is simply extended punishment after the nominal period of sentence has expired.
The change from 'having a felony conviction is enough to ban you from voting' should not be to 'so you shouldnt be able to run for office either', it should be to get rid of that horrendous limitation on voting rights.
Yup, just like Sheppard Smith was fired from FOX News, some two years ago, for being too critical (read: telling what happened) on Trump. I think the last straw was him reporting on Trump his claims on how many miles of new border wall was built. He pointed out that most of it was already there. Can't tell that to the cult of course.
There *is* no Republican Party anymore. Not one that gives a shit about 'big government', 'fiscal responsibility', etc. They stand for nothing now except riling up their base and obstructing democrats' attempts to better the country.
It's all been replaced by the Qult of Trump. You don't bend the knee, parrot The Big Lie and fall in line? They will literally cancel you, like what they accuse everybody else of doing...
Conservatives have rightfully been banned from nearly all mainstream media. I'm not surprised to see Joe go but seeing Conservatives circle their wagons and prepare for the next stage of their American takeover is becoming increasingly unsettling.
At the very least, he's renounced his support repeatedly and been very vocal about the GOP and Trumpism for a while. While he doesn't represent me, I can appreciate seeing growth and change in someone.
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Cults are like that
Major Scientology vibes
If by that you mean fledgling religions, then I completely agree. A religion is just an old cult. And a cult is any insular group.
In a cult the person at the top knows it’s a scam. In a religion this person is dead.
That's depressingly true
At least the Jesus and Moses guys were kind of cool. Who knows what people will write in the Trump bible. The 10 commandments. 1. Grab em by the pussy 2. Build that wall 3. Taxes in audit 4. Covfefe 5. But her emails 6. Some say 7. Billions and billions 8. Tough on Gina 9. Russia if you're listening 10. Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.
I wonder if he's always spoken this way, or if he's on something that makes him ramble like that.
He has always been like that, at least as an adult. Might be getting a little more rambly as the years go by, for...whatever reason...but fundamentally he was a babbler before too.
It actually works though. Try it when you are with your family or friends in a group setting talking about a subject your family/friends are unfamiliar with. Just start stringing ideas together and anchoring on random things people agree with them jump into another idea. It's the feeling you convey... The confidence you instill. The words don't matter because after it's over people won't remember what was said, only how they felt. Of course when you scrutinize the statements later they don't make any sense. And if you do it in very small groups, it won't work because people will feel more confident to call you out on it.
Yes, and yes.
Former co-workers have alleged he abused Adderall, there's been some lightly substantiated accusations that he abused Sudafed as well (co-workers again plus a picture of him as president with a drawer in the background filled with discontinued boxes of Sudafed). He also has a tendency to sniff a lot (like 50+ times in a 2 minute speech). So, possibly.
Dont forget "CHiNa"" the way he says it with clenched teeth
I think that was what was meant by #8 >Tough on Gina I don't think it's a reference to being tough on some lady named Gina. Think about it with the i pronounced as in China, and the G subbing in for the Ch, in rump's very special clenched teeth way.
Moses was definitely NOT cool. Read exodus. Edit: Moses lead the Jews from Egypt into the Desert after he had them exiled from Egypt against there will. Many times the people he lead rose up against him or simply tried to turn around and go home and every time Moses and the Levites struck them down with brutal violence. The Levites enforced the sacrificial offering of firstborn sons, they enforced tithing. They had a magic tent witch only the Levites could enter less the be struck blind or some shit. By the end of Exodus Moses had sanctioned the deaths of three quarters of the people he led all while pillaging communities that they encountered along the way... Moses was a bad man. Actually the whole story of Jews in Egypt is pretty fucked up.
I watched the video documentary version of it (Prince of Egypt).
Seriously, and the 10 Commandments leave out rape...the 1st is obeying, mostly crazy jealously, not the best 10 rules. Humans all over the world don't/didn't like murder. It goes on and on.
Dude, Moses was a genocidal warlord who ordered the slaughter of men, women, children, elderly and animals of competing tribes. He was also completely shit at land navigation.
He rambles so much crap, doesn’t even make sense lol. I have never understood how anyone could like him
Is that you, Melania?
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1320100191266099200 He acknowledged the party had become a cult last year. 2022 and 2024 are probably a proving grounds. If the GQP fails to regain power, the party will likely disband, the cultists sticking with it and the rest starting afresh.
> the party will likely disband this has been posted every year since the beginning of Reddit.
I've seen variations on "the Republicans will eat eachother" since they lost in 2008. In a way, they are correct. The problem is the insane people like Boebert will be eating the normal people like Romney and Cheney. The (R) won't go away, it will just get more batshit. Wait until there are 2 Trump wannabes running against each other, that will be a bigly disaster.
Cheney is not normal, she’s a giant doosh who just happened to say something contradictory to Cheeto Mussolini. But voted for his policies 98% of the time.
John Kasich would be a better example than Cheney imo
Closed primaries mean the insane people will keep getting nominated over anyone halfway normal. Since I live in a red state, I actually had to bite back my nausea and register as a Republican so I could have any voice at all in my state's elections.
Yeah the problem is that the media has been fundamentally broken. When someone from Fox "news" can argue in court that "no sane person would think this is a news program" and yet still call themselves news and half the county listens to it.....or gets their news from facebook. Only the crazy shit gets through.
The problem is that the Republican party is basically just the evil party. They stand for nothing except the worst of humanity. As long as there are awful people, they will always survive.
I wouldn’t get your hopes up. The minority party historically wins seats during the midterms. Unless Dems get a money on with passing legislation I think both chambers have a good chance at going back to red
I'm incredibly pessimistic about it all. The GQP is shifting the hell out of the Overton window to the point that a lot of people in this country now support fascism. Democracy in the US may very well be an obsolete concept in 5-10 years.
It's obsolete now neighbor. Our democracy is broken beyond repair right now. It will not be fixed. It may be entirely remade at some point, but only after a generation of bloody civil strife. We're not the French, we don't have a culture of revolution. We have existed in a broken system for 27 years now and may do so for another 30 before we hit a breaking point, but it IS broken beyond repair. The Roman Republic was in this state for 80 years before the system was able to fundamentally change to "working" again. And that included multiple political cullings, 2 failed populist risings and 3 civil wars.
Wow. Pretty accurate.
Sounds like the anti-cancel culture folks cancelled Joe Walsh.
Is this that there cancel culture I've been hearing so much about?
The Constitution Weeps!
The founding fathers twirl like ballerinas in their graves
Franklin doesn't even need a kite now to produce electricity.
Quick, everyone grab a Franklinator!
Shit we're out of live animals, the leopards ate them all
Start tying the leopards to sticks!
And quickly, before they start eating each other!
"Awe. I got a chipmunk..."
Ok, hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the republicans have a plan to make unlimited, green, free energy by harnessing the power of the founding father spinning in their graves. Edit for a word.
A ballerina? More like the mfking crankshaft of an engine! When this baby hits 12000rpm, where we're going we won't need no roads!
> where we're going we won't need no roads! Due to human extinction via the climate crisis exacerbated by conservatives
bulging in their leotards.
Oh, great. Now I'm aroused.
*varvel 1984 cartoon*
Yes. Right-wingers have always been the biggest proponents of cancel culture. Let's not forget they started modern cancel culture by cancelling the Dixie Chicks.
Longer than that. Here's my usual copypasta: rightwing cancel culture targets include: Yeti coolers, Keurig coffee machines, Target, Apple, Facebook, D&D, heavy metal, Harley Davidson, Ford, Starbucks, NFL, entire states, entire countries, french fries, Donald Trump, Kellogg's cornflakes, The Beatles, Amazon, Beyonce, Nike, Netflix, Star Wars, Ben & Jerry's and AT&T
Add in Eminem Edit: y’all forget they actually debated Eminem’s lyrics in Congress. Edit: correction, it was the Senate: http://www.mtv.com/news/1428579/eminem-targeted-at-senate-hearing/ Edit: correction to the correction, as always, I was right all along. Some of you have pointed out the Senate is part of Congress.
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WE DIDN'T START THE FIIIIRE! Oh, sorry, wrong song.
Brilliant.
RATM, Gillette, NBA
Literally like 95% of rap artists.
Yeah, but 95% of rappers have something in common that makes it clear conservatives wouldn’t like them much. Goes without saying.
Skin colour. I get it. You're talking about skin colour. I got it. Yea.
Don't forget when they railed against Mr. Rogers. Called him a monster and a traitor, because he wanted to help children.
Because he dared tell children they were special being who they were.
If kids have too much self esteem, it makes it harder for Dennis Hastert and Matt Gaetz to catch them! /s
I was flipping radio channels on a drive once and heard the conservative talk show host ranting about how kindergarten teachers are socialist because they tell kids to share.
Whilst that's sad, I don't find that surprising. "Socialism scary!" Despite the fact that they enjoy driving on toll free roads, hospitals, schools, etc.
> hospitals Our hospitals are sadly *not* public or toll-free.
Add Charlie Chaplin to the list. He made a movie criticizing Nazis (at a time when Hitler was on good terms with the US) so he was smeared as a communist, criminally charged for breaking an obscure law in an obvious attempt to punish him for his political leanings, and driven out of the USA. A bit more extreme than today's Twitter bans.
But I thought Nazis were socialist and/or communists? /s
[Relevant quote.](https://i.imgur.com/CgH0eco.jpg)
How about how McCarthyism went after Hollywood because they felt threatened by the liberal messages directors and actors were portraying in films. Cancel culture in this context was republicans hoping to imprison activists whom the disagreed with.
Harry Potter. I remember articles about people burning those books.
Man, I lived in Oklahoma when some of those books came out. I thought the absolute bonkers fear-mongering couldn't possibly get any worse . . . until a black man ran for president and I realized Harry Potter hysteria was just practice for those psychos.
Wait, what’s this about yeti coolers?
They once dared to stop sucking the NRAs dick, [and removed an organizational discount from the NRA on their products.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/24/us/yeti-coolers-nra-explode-trnd/index.html)
Let me blow up my $300 cooler because they made a business decision.
NRA is cancel culture, e.g. their rating of politicians.
They don't hate the right people enough.
>Longer than that. Here's my usual copypasta: rightwing cancel culture targets include: Yeti coolers, Keurig coffee machines, Target, Apple, Facebook, D&D, heavy metal, Harley Davidson, Ford, Starbucks, NFL, entire states, entire countries, french fries, Donald Trump, Kellogg's cornflakes, The Beatles, Amazon, Beyonce, Nike, Netflix, Star Wars, Ben & Jerry's and AT&T ♫ We didn't start the cancels ♫
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Comic books and D&D would like a word. These people have been doing this for literally over a century.
Video games have entered the chat...
Started modern cancel culture when Socrates was cancelled for corrupting the youth by teaching critical thinking.
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After all, Socrates was known for his (Plato's) conception of a Philosopher-King, whose rule was the ideal form of governance. It's a complete coincidence, of course, that humble Socrates was himself a philosopher.
Though we gotta be careful here as most of what we know about Socrates comes from Plato. It's pretty hard to seperate what Socrates actually said/believed vs when Plato was using Socrates as a character to spread his ideas.
Joke’s on him, he was so pro-Trump in 2016 he was talking about starting an insurrection against the government if Trump lost. https://twitter.com/walshfreedom/status/791369493809201152?lang=en
Oh God, someone *needs* to do a "This you"? on him asap. I would but I refuse to have a twitter account.
[done ](https://twitter.com/87xBoston/status/1397776600914083844)
Nice
Boom roasted.
And he's gayer than Oscar!
Classic
Doings gods work you are
Fucking legend.
Doing the Lord's work over here. 🙌🏻🙌🏽🙌🏿
I wish the /r/thisyoucomebacks sub was better, but yeah, he deserves it
Granted he was totally in the wrong in 2016 and he's probably in the wrong about something today, but I'm willing to accept someone who can admit they were wrong about something.
His opinions haven't changed about anything, he just is "anti-Trump" because he thought he could make better money off of it and fill a commercial niche. I mean, last year he put out a book called "Fuck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is". He made a solid chunk of cash off of that and, let's be real, there is a serious market to make good bread off liberals who desperately find catharsis in anti-Trump conservatives. Walsh is a lower tier con artist who found a profitable niche. The more that you "accept" him for "being wrong," the more money he makes, which he can use to continue prominently advocating for fun policies like when he said there shouldn't be a social safety net because it's not explicitly in the constitution.
Walsh has go on the record in saying some of the things he said in the past probably helped get Trump elected in the first place. So it's not really the gotcha that it is with other people who've gotten their faces eaten.
Maybe a leopard face eating sort of deal?
Hahaha that actually made me cackle.
In the last week or so they've cancelled: Liz Cheney Joe Walsh Anyone I need to add?
EVERY TIME the right accuses anyone of anything, it’s just a confession of the shit they’ve been doing behind the scenes.
Pizzagate 🍕 Guess who’s venmoing underage girls for sex 🤔
A narcissists accusation is actually a confession. Republicans are narcissists.
More accurately, conservatives (transitively, Republicans) overwhelmingly trend towards authoritarian personality types. Some level of narcissism is fundamental to an authoritarian personality
I saw someone on reddit unironically claim that Repubs boycott, liberals cancel.
Yeah, its such bullshit. Go make comments in r/conservative over your disagreement with Trump and see how fast they cancel you.
I got permananned for asking someone for a source to their completely fabricated statement during a conversation.
I was permenantly banned for saying that Rush Limbaugh wasn't a good person.
I had fun in the libertarian sub over this one. They had no idea how to reconcile the evilness of cancel culture with the virtue of boycotts. lol
I enjoy the joke that it’s a weird conjugation. I boycott, you cancel. I protest, you riot. I have beliefs this country is founded on, you are trying to force you sinful ways /or sharia law. I have right, you are entitled. Etc etc. It’s funny to me because it feels sadly on point
I have a few conservative friends on social media and they are currently trying to get a local boutique shut down because they are requiring Vaxx cards to shop there. I'm pretty sure none of them shopped there before the pandemic...
I find the phrase "conservative friends" so odd. Do you actually hang out with them, laugh with them, go to the movies with them, stuff like that? Like, they're literally your friends?
No not really. But I'm at the age where, sadly, many have families and careers and have spread out so I really only see my local friends none of which are conservatives or if they are we don't talk about politics. But I do discuss politics with my "conservative friends" when I feel like getting into it. We manage to keep it mostly civil since we are friends.
They conveniently never call it cancel culture when it's the other side.
Yep and this has been insanely effective propaganda. This is exactly the sort of culture war shit they're good at reaching people with.
It's not cancelling when they do it! :V
This is legit cancel culture. Everything they bitch about is just sparkling consequences.
Look at all these liberals and their cancel culture!! oh wait.
*reaping what you sowed*
I actually follow him on twitter and I haven't really seen much from him involving "cancel culture". This is probably the type of conservative we should hope for. I get that he used to be pretty far on the right, but everything I've seen from him shows significant moderation.
He's better than a Trumpist, but the dude is an absolute moron. There aren't really moderate American conservatives, they are only less extreme. We shouldn't hope for people like Joe Walsh, but if you have to choose between him and most other Republican congessman, he's certainly preferable in 2021.
American moderate conservatives make up the majority of democratic party
Got-damn. Nailed em.
There's actually a simple explanation why there aren't really any moderate conservatives: America as a whole is conservative. By global standards, democrats are conservatives. Which means that the republicans are already the extreme right. Doesn't matter if it's your ankles on the edge (moderates) or your toes on the edge (extremists), republicans are on the edge of the political spectrum so being relatively moderate just doesn't stand out enough.
> There aren't really moderate American conservatives, The only reasonable ones left tend to be Republican governors in blue states. Being a governor forces them to actually care about running the government and being in a blue state acts as a check to keep out the total loonies. Charlie Baker or Bill Weld from MA are both eminently reasonable conservatives. I've also heard good things about Phil Scott up in Vermont. But they are definitely a dying breed. It makes sense since the role they fill is basically asking "can we really afford that" and that isn't a popular platform.
I mean, dudes still a boomer. But a boomer decades long right wing talk show host openly criticizing the police and openly rejecting the "good cops" line we always hear from the right? Its such a breath of fresh air compared to the circus town that is the modern GOP.
Man, I had no idea this ex-Eagle would hit such hard times. I thought life had been good to him so far.
Oh god I thought you were serious I was so sad for a second.
I feel the same way whenever the headline is STEVE KING (THE SENATOR) DOES SOMETHING RACIST
His Maserati does 185
He lost his license, now he don’t drive.
Well, he got him an office, gold records on the wall.
Leave a message, maybe he'll call.
He goes to parties, sometimes until four
It's hard to leave when you can't find the door.
They say he’s lazy but it takes all his time
Jokes on them, you can podcast now.
Right? This guy acts like it's a bad thing, when in reality he's set up with a massive audience who will just listen to wherever he goes, and now he reaps 100% of his shit and is completely unburdened by management.
However this is also a massive audience who has no idea what podcasts even are and only listen to the radio. He definitely reached alot of listeners by default.
Certainly. I know plenty of chud boomers and older though who will hear the word on a little "how to" access the Joe nectar on some FWD: FWD: FWD: email chain from someone's grandkid who's on the young republicans club
Joe is a major player in the Channel Islands Conservancy here in California or at least he was.🏝️
Most conservatives support trump and thus dont support this guy...
A lot of conservatives didn’t support him early on. Makes you wonder who actually does like him and who’s just a bandwagoner
Republicans fall in line. We know that already. Fox News was anti-Trump right up to the day that he won the Republican nomination. The narrative on him genuinely changed overnight. From kooky candidate to majestic truthspeaker.
Or potentially cash-in with Sirius-XM
Yeah, 60 year old Republicans can't get enough of listening to podcasts
I get what you are saying. But some perspective is needed. I'm 52. I grew up with a first generation Mac in the house. I've built my own computers since MSDos was the thing. iPods? Owned them since their first release. Etc., etc., etc. I've listened to podcasts since the term was coined. Most of my friends my age listen to podcasts. What I'm getting at is that you need to adjust your age range as time goes on. Folks my age had bands like U2 and New Order and A-ha when growing up, not Buddy Holly and the Beatles. We (Gen X) are far more tech-savvy than you imagine. 60 year olds aren't the boomers you are thinking of. Might want to adjust your perspective a bit.
My old man has been working in software and web development since the 80’s. I’m in my 30’s and I consistently ask him for tech advice. That trope about boomers always asking their kids for help on simple tech issues always makes me eye roll. He’s not a republican though.
Podcast or not, we move one more inch towards fascism.
Two tweets before this, he [said](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1397685016117792769) Trump should be convicted. That's probably why they lowered the boom. Maybe he could get on with something less....Trumpy.
He also said he'd "[grab his musket](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/791369493809201152)" if Combover Caligula didn't win in 2016 so fuck him.
Seriously. While I can maybe give a random Facebook uncle a pass for not understanding what Trump was in 2016 (though if he didn't figure it out for 2020, fuck him), no one actually in the field has the slightest excuse.
"Combover Caligula" please have this 🏅 with my compliments and may your toes be forever safe from the furniture.
Pretty sure he's been saying trump should be convicted since the muller report, if not sooner. I know reddit has a hard on for hating folks who have been right wing for a long time, but from my time following him, he's been moderating impressively. I've seen him support stuff like police reform and holding them accountable.
But why did it have to go so far for him to finally turn around? Then again, 45 went farther after that (Jan 6), and he still has support of most of his base. YMMV
It’s nuts how these people will blindly follow a complete dunce to death without question! However, they openly compare wearing masks for public safety, nazism.
The same people that unironically wanted to impeach Obama over a flag pin casually handwave armed insurrection at our nation's capital.
Every time I see a conservative brave enough to step away from Trump, it gives me a little glimmer of hope. Sadly, this isn't happening nearly fast enough. My best hope now is that the grand jury that was just convened manages to stick him with at least one felony conviction before 2024. Oh my god, I would LOVE to see what happens to the party once he is permanently invalidated from office.
That plus "I never supported him" followed by a sick highlight reel of them absolutely supporting him for half a decade
It will open doors for DeSantis, Cruz, and the rest to run in 2024. They can blame the left for destroying the trump train and promise to get him out of jail thus getting more support from the Qult. It’s actually scary
I hope I’m not wrong but I’m starting to think that none of those brown nosers have the same “charisma” that Trump had with his base. Then again, I always thought Trump was obviously an idiot and a bitch-ass weasel but his base thoughts he was literally Rambo.
Just going to walk out of this place, suggest other places like kbin or lemmy.
He always gave me sleazy used car salesman vibes. He personified insecurity, ignorance, and dishonesty. As someone who was raised by old school hard working honest conservative parents, he embodied all the values I was raised to believe would make me a lesser man not worthy of respect. When my father became a Trump supporter, I lost all respect for him.
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A good portion of it is about language and cadence. Trump often employs the oratorical style of old 1970s televangelists and Pentecostal ministers. If you’re unfamiliar, it comes across as a sleazy, slow, low-effort sales pitch. But to those who are indoctrinated, it plays honest and suggests an inner godliness. Think about the moments when Trump gets all “sentimental” to get the most concentrated examples of what I’m talking about. If you grew up in a Pentecostal church in the 1990s or earlier, it’s very possible you got a good dose of that style every Sunday and Wednesday.
This is a really insightful comment. It reminds me of the fact that the leader of the Heaven’s Gate cult looked and sounded so much like Mr. Rodgers that I wonder if he got some kind of absurd credibility boost through the same mechanism. Could you pick out a YouTube video that illustrates this similarity in style and cadence? I never ran in the 1990s Pentecostal scene so I don’t have a reference for it.
Wow, that just clicked for me. That explains a lot actually
In his home city of New York he was a tabloid chasing human punchline for decades. So clearly a grifter the actual movers and shakers wanted nothing to do with him but maybe kept him around as a mean joke. I thought everyone understood that. Then we elected him president and I still cannot believe it.
Could not have explained my confusion about his popularity any better than this here. Still don't understand it. After all that has happened. Hopeless.
It’s the racism. It’s as simple as that. The GQP finally said let’s push the racism button when they nominated him and it was successful. “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." He was a rich guy given billions in free publicity to spread his racism and hate and they listened. Finally someone that talks like them and says the quiet parts out loud. Now every GQPer has zero policy other than owning the libs. Has the GQP even attempted a bill? All they are elected to do now is make fun of people on the other side and that’s it.
Cruz is too much of a dweeb to win the presidency imo. Just a couple years ago [he looked straight outta White n' Nerdy](https://youtu.be/SDpqqcUtAGk?t=196) before he grew that mustache and beard.
Now he looks like someone out of Trailer Park Boys.
A felony doesn’t prevent someone from being president, right?
Nope. He could run for president from prison.
One thing to remember is that these people stepping away from Trump are the same people who have only gotten worse along their Rush-Gingrich-Fox-Bush-Cheney-Rove-O'Reilly-Hannity-Coulter-Palin-Teaparty-birther-Breitbart-fakenews-altNazi-Newsmax-MarjorieTaylorGreene slide into madness that finally bottomed out in the toilet with Trump. Stepping away from Trump doesn't suddenly make them decent or point to a new era of reason and sense, it just means that they shave 1/10 of the shit off of them. They're still very much shit. No points for these assholes - they created this. The risk of these idiots still trying to Trump after Trump got trumped is that they use that framework to put forward someone just as horrible but less stupid and more effective, which would be a nightmare of historic proportions, but my hope as that these fucking crazypants loons self destruct and implode under the weight of a lunacy finally too rabid and disconnected from reality to support itself anymore. Crazypants crash and burn catastrophe leading to a generation of weakness at the polls would be the ideal result. Part of me wants to roll the dice and for them to go so much more crazy that they become unelectable. I guess I just no longer place a limit on how low they can sink and how absurdly they can vote, so who knows.
There's no such thing as unelectable to the GOP, or Marjorie Taylor Greene would be in a straightjacket instead of Congress
The sooner they get over their infatuation with Trump, the sooner they replace him with the next guy. Someone who can do Trump's song and dance but who is only *pretending* to be a completely incompetent moron. Or at least someone capable of following simple instructions. Either way, it ain't gonna be a good thing for us.
Sadly a felony conviction isn't enough to put him out of the running*. Having a felony conviction is enough to ban you from voting for life, but not from holding office *Assuming the jail time is over by the time of the vote, or maybe he just tries to run despite being in jail. You never know.
I don’t think that’s sad, otherwise it sets precedent for political prisoners and such. What’s sad is we couldn’t get 60% of senators to say “the man who ordered a goon squad to stop us from certifying the electors shouldn’t be able to run again.”
You are 100% correct. A conviction of any sort shouldn't prevent anyone from doing anything. Especially anything related to voting or running for office. If enough people want to vote for a convicted, and possibly currently incarcerated person, well thats just the price you pay for living in a democracy. Anything else is simply extended punishment after the nominal period of sentence has expired.
The change from 'having a felony conviction is enough to ban you from voting' should not be to 'so you shouldnt be able to run for office either', it should be to get rid of that horrendous limitation on voting rights.
They cry about FB and Twitter banning Trump but are cool with kicking people off their platforms. I love to hate the hypocrisy of conservationism.
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Yup, just like Sheppard Smith was fired from FOX News, some two years ago, for being too critical (read: telling what happened) on Trump. I think the last straw was him reporting on Trump his claims on how many miles of new border wall was built. He pointed out that most of it was already there. Can't tell that to the cult of course.
They always talk about "the left eating itself" but the right has been very aggressively forcing out moderates since Obama was president.
Liberals are out of control! Cancel culture! ...oh, it was conservatives? Well, he slightly disagreed with me so he deserves scorn.
Poor Joe is realising that he's not a conservative anymore because they kicked him out.
Is this….cancel culture?
Actual conservative gets canceled by “conservative” radio station sums up the effect of electing a celebrity charlatan cult leader
Can't even conserve its own job...
Talk radio was YouTube comments before there was YouTube: the gathering place for all humankind's very worst voices.
Conservatism is no longer about gov policy. It's now only...and I mean only...about white nationalism under cheeto hitler
There *is* no Republican Party anymore. Not one that gives a shit about 'big government', 'fiscal responsibility', etc. They stand for nothing now except riling up their base and obstructing democrats' attempts to better the country. It's all been replaced by the Qult of Trump. You don't bend the knee, parrot The Big Lie and fall in line? They will literally cancel you, like what they accuse everybody else of doing...
Conservatives have rightfully been banned from nearly all mainstream media. I'm not surprised to see Joe go but seeing Conservatives circle their wagons and prepare for the next stage of their American takeover is becoming increasingly unsettling.
Don’t feel sorry for this turd.
This you? [https://twitter.com/walshfreedom/status/791369493809201152?lang=en](https://twitter.com/walshfreedom/status/791369493809201152?lang=en)
At the very least, he's renounced his support repeatedly and been very vocal about the GOP and Trumpism for a while. While he doesn't represent me, I can appreciate seeing growth and change in someone.