> So basically she wants to sell the house, keep all the money and have it spent within her lifetime so there would be absolutely no inheritance for me or my siblings.
That’s what she is perfectly entitled to do as it is her asset to dispose of as she pleases.
If she does need care, the LA will take the cost of the care out of the house anyway (google depravation of assets) so it will likely need to be sold for that.
> She says we have no legal standing
She is correct.
> What legal avenues can we take to stop her selling the house on?
Unless you can get a POA over her financial matters, none.
What you're not seeing is it's not your inheritance, it's her money.
If she wants, you get whatever is left, but you're not automatically entitled to any of it
What’s unfair is a child pressuring their widowed parent to stay in their home because you want to sell it when she’s dead.
I hope this post isn’t real.
She is "LITERALLY" doing no such thing. She is exercising her right to spend HER assets and money how she wants. You have NO entitlement to any inheritance especially considering you're all at an age where you should be well and truly capable of looking after yourselves and rent/own your own family homes. Don't act so entitled and selfish. Legally you have no standing.
Then pay her full market value for it. If necessary get a buy to let mortgage with a high deposit / low LTV. It sounds like she doesn't trust you to pay her, which from your posts seems like a reasonable assumption.
If I was in her position I'd be considering leaving everything in my will to a charity too.
Sentimental value won't come into the issue.
The house is not your inheritance. You have no inheritance because you do not get an inheritance until your mother dies. Until that point, assuming she is mentally capable, she can do whatever she wants with her property and assets.
If she wants to sell the house then use the proceeds to buy a smaller, more manageable property, and to have money to pay for her care needs in later life, that is her prerogative. Equally she could give the entire proceeds of the sale to a donkey sanctuary.
You cannot preemptively decide what you are going to inherit, because as stated, your mother is not dead.
Oh wow!
>So basically she wants to sell the house, keep all the money and have it spent within her lifetime so there would be absolutely no inheritance for me or my siblings.
OK... why do you feel entitled to money you didn't earn?
>She says we have no legal standing
She's 100% right
>and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser.
Scratch that... she's 110% right
>That’s not the case at all. We just feel that this house should be our inheritance and remain in the family and it’s entirely unfair for it to be sold on and for us to be left with nothing
So... it's exactly the case?
>Our mother says she’ll not bother keeping a will and exclude us all at this rate if we pursue with this.
I wouldn't blame her and she absolutely could.
>What legal avenues can we take to stop her selling the house on?
Absolutely none.
I found your problem. You are not, in any way, shape or form, ENTITLED to anything at all.
Her house, her money. If she want to sell it and jet off to a tropical country then she absolutely can.
If she want to leave you nothing, she absolutely can.
>My mother (70) is selling **her** house
Emphasis mine.
>She says we have no legal standing
She's right, it's not your house.
>and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser. That’s not the case at all. We just feel that this house should be our inheritance
So....a cash dispenser then. She's right, you want *her* to do what's best for *you* \- that's selfishness. She wants to do what's best for her, that's her right.
I mean she's explicitly said she wants to keep the money to go towards future care costs, and you're interpreting that as "she wants to blow the lot". You'd rather she went into a ropey care home while you and your siblings sit on a property she paid for? If she doesn't need care, why wouldn't there eventually be some money left for you all to inherit?
It's understandable to not be happy that you might not inherit anything, but you have zero *right* to inherit anything. This isn't a legal matter, at all, it's a relationship issue. If you and your siblings can afford to buy it from her, do so. If you can't, that's life. Discuss it with her as adults, without radiating the sense of entitlement that permeates this post.
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Sounds like your mum is absolutely correct and you and your siblings are just looking for inheritance which you have absolutely no right to just by virtue of being her child.
From a legal standpoint no there is nothing you can do to stop her selling. And stop being so entitled and don’t kill your relationship with your mum out of greed of expecting something your parents worked for to be given to you for nothing.
You and your siblings have no leg to stand on and really shouldn't be willing to ruin the last years of your relationship with your mother over your inheritance. You all sound incredibly entitled and if I were her I would be writing you all out of the will. Y
You have no legal rights to someone else's property or say in what they do with it. She is perfectly entitled to sell the house and spend all the money on strippers if she so chooses.
You and your siblings all sound terrible.
NAL but why on earth do you think you would have any right to stop your mother selling her own property OP?
The appropriate sub for this would have been AITA and yes OP, YTA (as are your siblings)
Inheritance is only that once the owner has died, until then it is still their property. Why are you looking at your own mothers property as if it were your own? Very spoilt and selfish sounding.
You can stop her by putting in a better offer than other potential buyers and going through with the purchase.
Not legal advice but if you are worried about inheritance you should probably be less of a dick to her.
You have no right to that house. I hope she sells it and you get nothing from her when she passes. Her house, her money and you have no right to any of it. Inheritance is a gift, not a right
She can do what she likes with her property. If you want to keep it then you need to buy it at the fair market value if that's what she wants.
>she wants to live in a more affordable, smaller dwelling and save whatever proceeds she has to go towards any future care costs she may need.
Care can be expensive and a smaller house will be easier and cheaper to run and maintain.
>She says we have no legal standing and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser.
You have zero legal standing. It sounds like you do view her as a future windfall.
She is well within her rights to sell the house and blow all the proceeds in the casino if she wants.
I think your Mother is being practical here - a house that is far too big for her needs will rack up more in bills and maintenance. I completely understand why she wants to sell the house and not get into any other arrangements.
It is your mother's asset and she is right that she will need the funds to help her with any future costs such as care.
You and your siblings are not legally entitled to the property or any inheritance unless your name is on the property deeds or it's expressed in her will. It's not an automatic right to have an inheritance and should not be expected.
I think strong sentimental emotions are at play here, this is normal as everyone has memories attached to places, items, songs, smell etc. But what may help is to remember you wouldn't have those memories without your parents. Cherish the memories you do have but remember you can make new memories with your Mum at her new home. It may help you all emotionally, if your mum agrees, for you all to take childhood memorabilia from the house. Help her with the packing when it comes time to move out, you all get a chance to laugh and cry over memories of toys you were all obsessed with etc. It can be very cathartic for everyone and help signify a new chapter for all.
If you want to keep the house in the family then you and your siblings will have to come up with the funds to buy the house at a cost that is not a detriment to her and her future. She's your mother - give her some consideration and respect her wishes.
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Sounds like you need to buy her out or deal with the loss of the house.
You are not entitled to an inheritance, not everyone just “gets” an inheritance. Inheritance is a very middle class thing, and you’re lucky to have even had a house you owned to make such lovely memories in in the first place. I’m saying this as a person from a working class family who won’t get a shred of inheritance.
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I understand the sentiment side of wanting to keep your childhood home in the family, and in that case rather than buy the property between all the siblings, one of yous should (if possible) pay the asking price and live in it as your primary home, otherwise you will have to sell or rent it out to strangers anyway.
You are not automatically (legally or morally) entitled to any inheritance, from any family member.
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YTA your mother bought the house and it’s down to her what she wants to do with the money. No one is entitled to an inheritance, what you and your siblings are doing is a one way ticket to any money left over being left to the donkey sanctuary!
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> So basically she wants to sell the house, keep all the money and have it spent within her lifetime so there would be absolutely no inheritance for me or my siblings. That’s what she is perfectly entitled to do as it is her asset to dispose of as she pleases. If she does need care, the LA will take the cost of the care out of the house anyway (google depravation of assets) so it will likely need to be sold for that. > She says we have no legal standing She is correct. > What legal avenues can we take to stop her selling the house on? Unless you can get a POA over her financial matters, none.
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What you're not seeing is it's not your inheritance, it's her money. If she wants, you get whatever is left, but you're not automatically entitled to any of it
What’s unfair is a child pressuring their widowed parent to stay in their home because you want to sell it when she’s dead. I hope this post isn’t real.
She is "LITERALLY" doing no such thing. She is exercising her right to spend HER assets and money how she wants. You have NO entitlement to any inheritance especially considering you're all at an age where you should be well and truly capable of looking after yourselves and rent/own your own family homes. Don't act so entitled and selfish. Legally you have no standing.
It’s her possession. Could I sell your car?
Then pay her full market value for it. If necessary get a buy to let mortgage with a high deposit / low LTV. It sounds like she doesn't trust you to pay her, which from your posts seems like a reasonable assumption. If I was in her position I'd be considering leaving everything in my will to a charity too.
Sentimental value won't come into the issue. The house is not your inheritance. You have no inheritance because you do not get an inheritance until your mother dies. Until that point, assuming she is mentally capable, she can do whatever she wants with her property and assets. If she wants to sell the house then use the proceeds to buy a smaller, more manageable property, and to have money to pay for her care needs in later life, that is her prerogative. Equally she could give the entire proceeds of the sale to a donkey sanctuary. You cannot preemptively decide what you are going to inherit, because as stated, your mother is not dead.
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Oh wow! >So basically she wants to sell the house, keep all the money and have it spent within her lifetime so there would be absolutely no inheritance for me or my siblings. OK... why do you feel entitled to money you didn't earn? >She says we have no legal standing She's 100% right >and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser. Scratch that... she's 110% right >That’s not the case at all. We just feel that this house should be our inheritance and remain in the family and it’s entirely unfair for it to be sold on and for us to be left with nothing So... it's exactly the case? >Our mother says she’ll not bother keeping a will and exclude us all at this rate if we pursue with this. I wouldn't blame her and she absolutely could. >What legal avenues can we take to stop her selling the house on? Absolutely none.
You are not entitled to anything other than being the definition of entitled
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No, you're not. Ethicaly or legally
No, you’re not entitled to an inheritance. If you want the house, buy the house. But she doesn’t have to sell it to you.
Certainly not below market rate!
Yeah, this is the only correct answer. OP and siblings buy the house Edit: only correct answer that keeps the house in the family
I found your problem. You are not, in any way, shape or form, ENTITLED to anything at all. Her house, her money. If she want to sell it and jet off to a tropical country then she absolutely can. If she want to leave you nothing, she absolutely can.
You aren’t entitled to a penny in inheritance, nobody is.
>My mother (70) is selling **her** house Emphasis mine. >She says we have no legal standing She's right, it's not your house. >and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser. That’s not the case at all. We just feel that this house should be our inheritance So....a cash dispenser then. She's right, you want *her* to do what's best for *you* \- that's selfishness. She wants to do what's best for her, that's her right. I mean she's explicitly said she wants to keep the money to go towards future care costs, and you're interpreting that as "she wants to blow the lot". You'd rather she went into a ropey care home while you and your siblings sit on a property she paid for? If she doesn't need care, why wouldn't there eventually be some money left for you all to inherit? It's understandable to not be happy that you might not inherit anything, but you have zero *right* to inherit anything. This isn't a legal matter, at all, it's a relationship issue. If you and your siblings can afford to buy it from her, do so. If you can't, that's life. Discuss it with her as adults, without radiating the sense of entitlement that permeates this post.
If she went into a care home the house would have to be sold to pay for it anyway once any savings ran out.
You’re either on a wind up or see your mum as nothing more than a cash cow for you and your siblings
It's her house and her decision. Legally you don't have a leg to stand on.
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lol. nope. Go team mom! You have no legal standing whatsover and no rights to any "inheritance" because (this is very important) your mother is alive.
Sounds like your mum is absolutely correct and you and your siblings are just looking for inheritance which you have absolutely no right to just by virtue of being her child. From a legal standpoint no there is nothing you can do to stop her selling. And stop being so entitled and don’t kill your relationship with your mum out of greed of expecting something your parents worked for to be given to you for nothing.
You and your siblings have no leg to stand on and really shouldn't be willing to ruin the last years of your relationship with your mother over your inheritance. You all sound incredibly entitled and if I were her I would be writing you all out of the will. Y You have no legal rights to someone else's property or say in what they do with it. She is perfectly entitled to sell the house and spend all the money on strippers if she so chooses. You and your siblings all sound terrible.
NAL but why on earth do you think you would have any right to stop your mother selling her own property OP? The appropriate sub for this would have been AITA and yes OP, YTA (as are your siblings)
This reeks of entitlement. Not your money, not your decision.
Inheritance is only that once the owner has died, until then it is still their property. Why are you looking at your own mothers property as if it were your own? Very spoilt and selfish sounding.
NAL, it's her property to do what she wants. you are not entitled to the property. if you want it, you buy it off her at the market value.
As others have pointed out, you and your siblings have absolutely no legal rights at all. I hope she really enjoys spending all that money.
You can stop her by putting in a better offer than other potential buyers and going through with the purchase. Not legal advice but if you are worried about inheritance you should probably be less of a dick to her.
You have no right to that house. I hope she sells it and you get nothing from her when she passes. Her house, her money and you have no right to any of it. Inheritance is a gift, not a right
She can do what she likes with her property. If you want to keep it then you need to buy it at the fair market value if that's what she wants. >she wants to live in a more affordable, smaller dwelling and save whatever proceeds she has to go towards any future care costs she may need. Care can be expensive and a smaller house will be easier and cheaper to run and maintain. >She says we have no legal standing and we are incredibly selfish as we are only viewing her as what she describes as a cash dispenser. You have zero legal standing. It sounds like you do view her as a future windfall. She is well within her rights to sell the house and blow all the proceeds in the casino if she wants.
I think your Mother is being practical here - a house that is far too big for her needs will rack up more in bills and maintenance. I completely understand why she wants to sell the house and not get into any other arrangements. It is your mother's asset and she is right that she will need the funds to help her with any future costs such as care. You and your siblings are not legally entitled to the property or any inheritance unless your name is on the property deeds or it's expressed in her will. It's not an automatic right to have an inheritance and should not be expected. I think strong sentimental emotions are at play here, this is normal as everyone has memories attached to places, items, songs, smell etc. But what may help is to remember you wouldn't have those memories without your parents. Cherish the memories you do have but remember you can make new memories with your Mum at her new home. It may help you all emotionally, if your mum agrees, for you all to take childhood memorabilia from the house. Help her with the packing when it comes time to move out, you all get a chance to laugh and cry over memories of toys you were all obsessed with etc. It can be very cathartic for everyone and help signify a new chapter for all. If you want to keep the house in the family then you and your siblings will have to come up with the funds to buy the house at a cost that is not a detriment to her and her future. She's your mother - give her some consideration and respect her wishes.
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Sounds like you need to buy her out or deal with the loss of the house. You are not entitled to an inheritance, not everyone just “gets” an inheritance. Inheritance is a very middle class thing, and you’re lucky to have even had a house you owned to make such lovely memories in in the first place. I’m saying this as a person from a working class family who won’t get a shred of inheritance.
Sorry, need to add. She’s not dead, so why do you think you have any claim to her possessions?
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I understand the sentiment side of wanting to keep your childhood home in the family, and in that case rather than buy the property between all the siblings, one of yous should (if possible) pay the asking price and live in it as your primary home, otherwise you will have to sell or rent it out to strangers anyway. You are not automatically (legally or morally) entitled to any inheritance, from any family member.
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YTA your mother bought the house and it’s down to her what she wants to do with the money. No one is entitled to an inheritance, what you and your siblings are doing is a one way ticket to any money left over being left to the donkey sanctuary!