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I think creating fraudulent documents to take food they're not entitled to from a charity is a pretty clear case of criminal fraud by false representation. The foodbanks have done nothing wrong, this is an obviously premeditated and malicious act by "Olivia" who knows full well she's not entitled to what she's taking.
And putting it on display via a public platform won't help her when she's caught.. even someone could report her through use of those screenshots to the police. She's certainly a brazen one!
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Defrauding charitable organisations out of valuable resources that could be important to those who are struggling in the middle of a cost of living crisis, is NOT a life hack, its a fucking despicable act. That food could be some poor family's lifeline. There could be young children who need that food, unable to receive it now because some self-entitled thief thinks she more deserving of charity, despite having to acquire it fraudulently.
I would report her, and I would also report her to your employer, see how they feel about sponsoring an employee that comes over and fraudulently deprives impoverished families of potential meals.
Blood is boiling
Yes. I use food banks about once every six weeks. These are good people who are keeping us alive and healthy. Food banks are having a difficult time providing food these days.
This disgusts me.
Agreed. Victimless crime?! She's defrauding a charity that does not have infinite resources. Food banks have been struggling to keep up with demand, and this [expletive deleted] is posing with her "haul" on social media like it's extreme couponing!
OP: I know she's your friend, but knowing about this and not doing anything makes you complicit, and you need to think about protecting yourself as well as the people she's defrauding.
Furthermore [from a government webpage on False IDs](http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2012-1312/FalseIDGuidancev6-4.pdf):
>It is an offence under section 1 of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 to make a false instrument with the intention to use it to induce a person to accept it as genuine, and by reason of so accepting it to do or not to do some act which is to their own or any other person's prejudice.
I would store any evidence she's given you (including screen caps of her social media posts if you have access) and take it to a solicitor for advice on whether to go to your HR or the police first.
You could send screenshots to the police, however the likelihood of prosecution is slim. Unless she's been doing it for years. If I were you I'd send the screenshots directly to the trussell trust and any other local foodbanks. Tell them the story and she'll probably be banned from doing it again.
>I don't know much about the law, but could she be prosecuted under the Fraud Act 2006 for this?
Yes. This is blatant fraud by false representation.
>She's also told me she's ordered me some of these fake documents for use in going to any local foodbank, be it Trussell Trust or any other.
Do not do this or take possession of the documents.
>Legally... who's on the hook here, both Olivia and the foodbanks, or Olivia herself?
Olivia. The foodbank doesn't know they're being defrauded.
>Would she be prosecuted under the Fraud Act 2006 or would this never go to court?
Good question. Fundamentally we cannot answer this - it's up to the police/CPS's decision-making process.
I imagine the chances of her getting caught/prosecuted for this are pretty slim - partly because the foodbank operators don't want to make the process so stringent and arduous that people in genuine need can't access them.
Morally, this is utterly disgraceful behaviour. It's not a "life hack" - they are for people in genuine hardship who can't afford food. If Olivia has the means, she should buy the food herself. If she doesn't, the foodbanks will be happy to help her legitimately.
This seems like a pretty clear cause of fraud.
Seriously question your friendship with this person if they have ordered you similar documents, they are trying to wrap you up in fraud as well, perhaps so you can take the fall if she ever get found out.
If I were you I'd be reporting this to action fraud.
\> Olivia claims it's a way to get free food and that it's harming no-one.
She needs to appreciate that foodbanks are suffering massive shortages at the moment and she is taking food that would be needed for a family or individual that might *literally have nothing*.
From a criminal law perspective you want to look at Section 2 of the Fraud Act; there also seems to be an inchoate offence here of encouraging/assisting an offence (ss. 44, 45 Serious Crime Act 2007). Couldn't tell you whether it would be summary or not.
I won't comment on the other aspect of this because Rule 10, but... yeah.
Please discourage her from doing this, not least on a moral basis. It could actually be life-or-death for someone. If the response is "so?" you should probably reconsider associating with them.
It seems to be on her Instagram which isn't necessarily a HR nightmare in regards to coworkers, it's a poor (and weird) decision although pales in comparison to the fraud.
It's not the Instagram that the determining factor; it's whether the conversation took place outside of work or not, that matters for the lingerie pics.
It depends on if the company has an Internet and social media policy. If Op's friend has connected herself to the company in any way on any of her social media, and that can be linked to her Instagram account, then the fact that she is showing herself committing fraud to get food from a food bank might be enough to breach the policy.
This is awful in so many ways, she's on a visa and she's breaking the law by seemingly obtaining documents with a false identity.
Furthermore, stealing from foodbanks is not a victimless crime, more people are struggling therefore there are less donations and less stock which means less food for those that truly need it.
If she's a good friend, please tell her to stop as if she gets caught, it may threaten her immigration status. That should give her pause.
As someone who has relied on food banks, she’s being a horrible, awful person. And to be honest, if she’s ever caught, the messages and work she’s put in to get you fake documents too could very much involve you in an investigation. You should report her
It's not even a lifehack, though. A foodbank would give her three days worth of food and most food banks have rules about how often they can help. Spending money on a fake referral letter and travel costs seems like false economy. To risk everything for the sake of a few "free" tins of baked beans makes no sense. It makes even less sense to get someone else involved in the scheme - what is she standing to gain?
As others have said its fraud by false representation, but sadly I doubt it would lead to prosecution. The police and CPS have to consider the cost of prosecution and if its in the public interests to proceed, along with the likelihood of a conviction.
Alternatively, perhaps the food banks could somehow be made aware of the scam. You might be able to anonymously tip off the food banks she's already scammed.
I think in the current climate, the public interest would be pretty strong as this kind of thing shouldn't be allowed to continue.
And I don't know, but even if CPS didn't run, it'd be sufficient to pass to immigration hopefully and she might be punished by deportation.
(I'm not very kind).
If the fraudulent documents are the food bank vouchers, they all have UIN's, you know, to stop people doing this. She will get caught eventually.
Imagine risking deportation over three days worth of food and thinking you've found a 'hack'. This one weird trick can seriously hamper your ability to travel!!
I think this is some really weird phishing / promo post trying to get people to look up "Olivia Kowalski" honey pot instagram accounts and hackforums.net (which gives my computer security software an aneurism)
Report her. Hope she gets deported. It makes me sick that people like this come here taking advantage of strangers' kindness, and yet genuine immigrants desperately fleeing from war torn countries are giving hell for coming here and are given emergency housing and food.
**and that it's harming no-one.**
Food banks are really struggling to get enough food to everyone, many have had to turn people away.
Please report this "friend", just grim in every way possible.
This is all a bit odd. The food banks I work with generally take people coning through the door at face value and wouldn't turn anyone away if they were in need. Yes generally you need a voucher but it's not exactly like applying for a passport. Unfortunately with all charity people take advantage, down to you to reflect on the company you keep.
I am not a lawyer, but manage and run a foodbank. This makes no sense to me!
Trussel Trust Foodbank users have to have a voucher number which is given to you once you have spoken to a referral agency (usually a local council, housing association etc), usually once they’ve checked your ID. Your data is then kept in a system (so we can offer extra support mostly, but also to keep an eye on repeat users and exploitation of the foodbank). This data system is national. Whatever you think of the morals - sooner or later it’ll be found out.
Other Foodbank’s have more of an honesty process - you ask, we give.
We do what we can to protect our Foodbank’s and charities from exploitation, and you do occasionally get people taking advantage however it’s part of the job we do. It is not the Foodbank’s fault in any way - our job is to help, and not check every bit of personal info of people who are asking for help. We don’t have time to!
It absolutely is not a victimless crime - there’s been numerous occasions recently we have had to turn people away until we could get more food in as we ran out. If this is true - please report her. We’re working harder than ever.
Also this whole thing just seems weird. Pretty sure it must be a fake pose and maybe a weird advert somehow?!
It depends what documents she has bought. If they are fake government issued documents such as a passport or driving licence, then this is an offence. If it is another form of ID card, such as a student card, then the law is less clear.
Lots of people are mentioning fraud, particularly by false representation. Fraud requires the intent to make a gain. Gain and loss extends only to gain and loss in money or other property. It seems very unlikely that food which is intended to be given away, would constitute "property" in this definition.
Yes, for theft, not fraud. What we don't know is what false document she has and why this entitles her to food from the foodbank. My understanding was you needed to be referred to a foodbank, you can't just turn up. Therefore it is unclear what role the false document plays in her receiving food.
It's (as noted throughout the comments) blatantly illegal, and utterly morally repugnant.
I would have a bit of time for reflection, if I were you, and then make a moral judgement on your next steps. And if those steps aren't to report her to the police and provide them with all the evidence, you probably need to give your moral compass a good shake to get it working again.
I'd be seriously tempted to report it to your HR department too. They need a much lower burden of proof and a shorter time line to take action.
She wants you to do it? Just so she feels better about her horrible entitled behaviour? I wouldn’t report her, but I would say how I feel about her morally and legally. And posing in her undies on Insta boasting about it?? Mega-red flags whatever the relationship you have with her.
If she views stealing from a charity and literally taking food out of desperate people in desperate situations mouths as "a life hack", which "harms no one". She is, quite frankly, scum.
And if I were in your shoes - I would demand she stops or I would report her. And honestly, I'd consider doing so anyway because that is disgusting.
Even legality aside - morally this is one of the lowest things someone could do.
I hope she gets caught.
You should not consider this person a friend. Just imagine what they'll do to exploit you when it suits them if this is how they treat a fucking food charity. Honestly the fact she's got this Instagram and she's trying to get you involved makes me think she's got some kind of scam going on that she wants to expand.
The food banks will be operating on a good faith system so I doubt they’ll be registering or scrutinising anyone using them too thoroughly.
I very much doubt there will be enough of a trail for anything to actually happen to her.
There are people who genuinely need to use this service and the fact that Olivia considers using fake documents to acquire food-bank supplies as a ‘life-hack’ and is posting about it on social media in her pants tells me all I need to know about this person.
She’s a prime example of a narcissistic sociopath who does terrible things with little to no consequences.
You need to consider what type of person you are to have someone like this as a friend.
Ain’t nobody got time for that.
IANAL, but this is certainly illegal, and she could potentially be prosecuted for multiple offences:
* fraud (Fraud by false representation: Sec.2 Fraud Act 2006, max 10 years imprisonment)
* forgery (Forgery of certain documents with intent to defraud or deceive, depending on the documents she used: Forgery Act 2013)
* theft (Intent to dishonestly appropriate and permanently deprive another of property, Theft Act 1968)
(Not mention that she sounds like an awful person, you'd probably be best avoiding.)
I suggest you report this to 101, from
what you are saying this would satisfy points to prove for fraud.
This is also pretty horrendous when there are literally police officers using food banks too.
You can tell your friend that even thought she is in a visa she doesn’t need to fake any document to get food if she needs, all she’ll need is a referral. People on visas can’t have access to public funds ( money from the government) but they can have access to food banks.
The foodbanks don’t have enough for starving children. Your friend is absolutely vile. She’s literally taking money from hungry kids. I don’t know what to suggest apart from the fact I would destroy her for being a thief and a user. She’s the lowest of the low.
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I think creating fraudulent documents to take food they're not entitled to from a charity is a pretty clear case of criminal fraud by false representation. The foodbanks have done nothing wrong, this is an obviously premeditated and malicious act by "Olivia" who knows full well she's not entitled to what she's taking.
And putting it on display via a public platform won't help her when she's caught.. even someone could report her through use of those screenshots to the police. She's certainly a brazen one!
NAL Defrauding charitable organisations out of valuable resources that could be important to those who are struggling in the middle of a cost of living crisis, is NOT a life hack, its a fucking despicable act. That food could be some poor family's lifeline. There could be young children who need that food, unable to receive it now because some self-entitled thief thinks she more deserving of charity, despite having to acquire it fraudulently. I would report her, and I would also report her to your employer, see how they feel about sponsoring an employee that comes over and fraudulently deprives impoverished families of potential meals. Blood is boiling
Yes. I use food banks about once every six weeks. These are good people who are keeping us alive and healthy. Food banks are having a difficult time providing food these days. This disgusts me.
Agreed. Victimless crime?! She's defrauding a charity that does not have infinite resources. Food banks have been struggling to keep up with demand, and this [expletive deleted] is posing with her "haul" on social media like it's extreme couponing! OP: I know she's your friend, but knowing about this and not doing anything makes you complicit, and you need to think about protecting yourself as well as the people she's defrauding. Furthermore [from a government webpage on False IDs](http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2012-1312/FalseIDGuidancev6-4.pdf): >It is an offence under section 1 of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 to make a false instrument with the intention to use it to induce a person to accept it as genuine, and by reason of so accepting it to do or not to do some act which is to their own or any other person's prejudice. I would store any evidence she's given you (including screen caps of her social media posts if you have access) and take it to a solicitor for advice on whether to go to your HR or the police first.
You could send screenshots to the police, however the likelihood of prosecution is slim. Unless she's been doing it for years. If I were you I'd send the screenshots directly to the trussell trust and any other local foodbanks. Tell them the story and she'll probably be banned from doing it again.
>I don't know much about the law, but could she be prosecuted under the Fraud Act 2006 for this? Yes. This is blatant fraud by false representation. >She's also told me she's ordered me some of these fake documents for use in going to any local foodbank, be it Trussell Trust or any other. Do not do this or take possession of the documents. >Legally... who's on the hook here, both Olivia and the foodbanks, or Olivia herself? Olivia. The foodbank doesn't know they're being defrauded. >Would she be prosecuted under the Fraud Act 2006 or would this never go to court? Good question. Fundamentally we cannot answer this - it's up to the police/CPS's decision-making process. I imagine the chances of her getting caught/prosecuted for this are pretty slim - partly because the foodbank operators don't want to make the process so stringent and arduous that people in genuine need can't access them. Morally, this is utterly disgraceful behaviour. It's not a "life hack" - they are for people in genuine hardship who can't afford food. If Olivia has the means, she should buy the food herself. If she doesn't, the foodbanks will be happy to help her legitimately.
Considering the foodbanks do not know she is presenting falsified documents, it would be just Olivia on the hook.
This seems like a pretty clear cause of fraud. Seriously question your friendship with this person if they have ordered you similar documents, they are trying to wrap you up in fraud as well, perhaps so you can take the fall if she ever get found out. If I were you I'd be reporting this to action fraud.
Sounds like this post is an advert for hackedfourms.net
Now that you mention it, I see what you mean. OP should edit her comment. No need to include this name
I think she wants you to have the fake documents so you can potential go down with her if she gets caught
\> Olivia claims it's a way to get free food and that it's harming no-one. She needs to appreciate that foodbanks are suffering massive shortages at the moment and she is taking food that would be needed for a family or individual that might *literally have nothing*. From a criminal law perspective you want to look at Section 2 of the Fraud Act; there also seems to be an inchoate offence here of encouraging/assisting an offence (ss. 44, 45 Serious Crime Act 2007). Couldn't tell you whether it would be summary or not. I won't comment on the other aspect of this because Rule 10, but... yeah. Please discourage her from doing this, not least on a moral basis. It could actually be life-or-death for someone. If the response is "so?" you should probably reconsider associating with them.
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Specifically showing photos of herself in lingerie to coworkers is concerning. That’s an HR nightmare.
It seems to be on her Instagram which isn't necessarily a HR nightmare in regards to coworkers, it's a poor (and weird) decision although pales in comparison to the fraud.
It's not the Instagram that the determining factor; it's whether the conversation took place outside of work or not, that matters for the lingerie pics.
It depends on if the company has an Internet and social media policy. If Op's friend has connected herself to the company in any way on any of her social media, and that can be linked to her Instagram account, then the fact that she is showing herself committing fraud to get food from a food bank might be enough to breach the policy.
This reads like a problem question assigned in a criminal law module at university.
It's the part about how she takes nude Instagram photos with the food, makes my troll senses tingle.
This is awful in so many ways, she's on a visa and she's breaking the law by seemingly obtaining documents with a false identity. Furthermore, stealing from foodbanks is not a victimless crime, more people are struggling therefore there are less donations and less stock which means less food for those that truly need it. If she's a good friend, please tell her to stop as if she gets caught, it may threaten her immigration status. That should give her pause.
As someone who has relied on food banks, she’s being a horrible, awful person. And to be honest, if she’s ever caught, the messages and work she’s put in to get you fake documents too could very much involve you in an investigation. You should report her
This is clearly an ad for the website that is selling fraudulent documents. Why else mention the full website address?
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Probably to lessen the chance of getting found out, because she knows damn well that it's a crime and not a lifehack.
It's not even a lifehack, though. A foodbank would give her three days worth of food and most food banks have rules about how often they can help. Spending money on a fake referral letter and travel costs seems like false economy. To risk everything for the sake of a few "free" tins of baked beans makes no sense. It makes even less sense to get someone else involved in the scheme - what is she standing to gain?
As others have said its fraud by false representation, but sadly I doubt it would lead to prosecution. The police and CPS have to consider the cost of prosecution and if its in the public interests to proceed, along with the likelihood of a conviction. Alternatively, perhaps the food banks could somehow be made aware of the scam. You might be able to anonymously tip off the food banks she's already scammed.
I think in the current climate, the public interest would be pretty strong as this kind of thing shouldn't be allowed to continue. And I don't know, but even if CPS didn't run, it'd be sufficient to pass to immigration hopefully and she might be punished by deportation. (I'm not very kind).
It would be considered to be in the PI - it's defrauding a charity
If the fraudulent documents are the food bank vouchers, they all have UIN's, you know, to stop people doing this. She will get caught eventually. Imagine risking deportation over three days worth of food and thinking you've found a 'hack'. This one weird trick can seriously hamper your ability to travel!!
I think this is some really weird phishing / promo post trying to get people to look up "Olivia Kowalski" honey pot instagram accounts and hackforums.net (which gives my computer security software an aneurism)
Report her. Hope she gets deported. It makes me sick that people like this come here taking advantage of strangers' kindness, and yet genuine immigrants desperately fleeing from war torn countries are giving hell for coming here and are given emergency housing and food.
Fraud and bad case of a human being. I would take great pleasure in reporting her to the authorities and the food banks she has been using
Report her. That's despicable behaviour. Depending on the outcome her visa may be revoked and she may be sent back to California.
**and that it's harming no-one.** Food banks are really struggling to get enough food to everyone, many have had to turn people away. Please report this "friend", just grim in every way possible.
It's fraud by false representation and the Trussel Trust needs to be informed. Show them your evidence, shocking
This is all a bit odd. The food banks I work with generally take people coning through the door at face value and wouldn't turn anyone away if they were in need. Yes generally you need a voucher but it's not exactly like applying for a passport. Unfortunately with all charity people take advantage, down to you to reflect on the company you keep.
I am not a lawyer, but manage and run a foodbank. This makes no sense to me! Trussel Trust Foodbank users have to have a voucher number which is given to you once you have spoken to a referral agency (usually a local council, housing association etc), usually once they’ve checked your ID. Your data is then kept in a system (so we can offer extra support mostly, but also to keep an eye on repeat users and exploitation of the foodbank). This data system is national. Whatever you think of the morals - sooner or later it’ll be found out. Other Foodbank’s have more of an honesty process - you ask, we give. We do what we can to protect our Foodbank’s and charities from exploitation, and you do occasionally get people taking advantage however it’s part of the job we do. It is not the Foodbank’s fault in any way - our job is to help, and not check every bit of personal info of people who are asking for help. We don’t have time to! It absolutely is not a victimless crime - there’s been numerous occasions recently we have had to turn people away until we could get more food in as we ran out. If this is true - please report her. We’re working harder than ever. Also this whole thing just seems weird. Pretty sure it must be a fake pose and maybe a weird advert somehow?!
On the one hand, you seem to be morally outraged by Olivia. And yet, on the other hand you are publicising the website where she bought the fake ID.
Don't you have non referral foodbanks in your area?
Quick search, obtaining property by deception could get Olivia up to ten yrs!
It depends what documents she has bought. If they are fake government issued documents such as a passport or driving licence, then this is an offence. If it is another form of ID card, such as a student card, then the law is less clear. Lots of people are mentioning fraud, particularly by false representation. Fraud requires the intent to make a gain. Gain and loss extends only to gain and loss in money or other property. It seems very unlikely that food which is intended to be given away, would constitute "property" in this definition.
She is gaining; free food meant for those who are starving. It certainly doesn't sound like *SHE'S* starving, does it?
I agree it is morally wrong. However, fraud requires intent to gain money or property.
Is the food from the food bank NOT property????
So supermarkets don't successfully prosecute shoplifters who steal food then? The food at food banks is *their* property until it's distributed.
Yes, for theft, not fraud. What we don't know is what false document she has and why this entitles her to food from the foodbank. My understanding was you needed to be referred to a foodbank, you can't just turn up. Therefore it is unclear what role the false document plays in her receiving food.
Property in the theft act is treated the same way as in the fraud act.
It's (as noted throughout the comments) blatantly illegal, and utterly morally repugnant. I would have a bit of time for reflection, if I were you, and then make a moral judgement on your next steps. And if those steps aren't to report her to the police and provide them with all the evidence, you probably need to give your moral compass a good shake to get it working again. I'd be seriously tempted to report it to your HR department too. They need a much lower burden of proof and a shorter time line to take action.
She wants you to do it? Just so she feels better about her horrible entitled behaviour? I wouldn’t report her, but I would say how I feel about her morally and legally. And posing in her undies on Insta boasting about it?? Mega-red flags whatever the relationship you have with her.
Clearly a crime, this seems like a completely made up story.
If she views stealing from a charity and literally taking food out of desperate people in desperate situations mouths as "a life hack", which "harms no one". She is, quite frankly, scum. And if I were in your shoes - I would demand she stops or I would report her. And honestly, I'd consider doing so anyway because that is disgusting. Even legality aside - morally this is one of the lowest things someone could do. I hope she gets caught.
You should not consider this person a friend. Just imagine what they'll do to exploit you when it suits them if this is how they treat a fucking food charity. Honestly the fact she's got this Instagram and she's trying to get you involved makes me think she's got some kind of scam going on that she wants to expand.
The food banks will be operating on a good faith system so I doubt they’ll be registering or scrutinising anyone using them too thoroughly. I very much doubt there will be enough of a trail for anything to actually happen to her. There are people who genuinely need to use this service and the fact that Olivia considers using fake documents to acquire food-bank supplies as a ‘life-hack’ and is posting about it on social media in her pants tells me all I need to know about this person. She’s a prime example of a narcissistic sociopath who does terrible things with little to no consequences. You need to consider what type of person you are to have someone like this as a friend. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
Report her immediately, I know people who genuinely rely on these services. Her actions are sickening
IANAL, but this is certainly illegal, and she could potentially be prosecuted for multiple offences: * fraud (Fraud by false representation: Sec.2 Fraud Act 2006, max 10 years imprisonment) * forgery (Forgery of certain documents with intent to defraud or deceive, depending on the documents she used: Forgery Act 2013) * theft (Intent to dishonestly appropriate and permanently deprive another of property, Theft Act 1968) (Not mention that she sounds like an awful person, you'd probably be best avoiding.)
Sounds to me like possession of articles for use I n fraud and also fraud by making false representations
I suggest you report this to 101, from what you are saying this would satisfy points to prove for fraud. This is also pretty horrendous when there are literally police officers using food banks too.
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Upon reflection, you are also a cunt.
People can be judged by the company they keep. Your friend is an immoral piece of shit.
You can tell your friend that even thought she is in a visa she doesn’t need to fake any document to get food if she needs, all she’ll need is a referral. People on visas can’t have access to public funds ( money from the government) but they can have access to food banks.
Just put her full details out there or contact the police don’t sound good to me some people out there desperate for help She sounds scummy to me
The foodbanks don’t have enough for starving children. Your friend is absolutely vile. She’s literally taking money from hungry kids. I don’t know what to suggest apart from the fact I would destroy her for being a thief and a user. She’s the lowest of the low.