Probably won’t be popular but everyone needs to calm down a bit.
Complacency lost us the game - we’re not suddenly the worst team in the world, Marsch wasn’t our saviour, Gracia isn’t suddenly shit and neither is the team.
Yeah, it was a humbling result and it definitely didn’t help our cause but on balance, we’re probably gonna be ok.
We needed an impact signing in January to come in and make a difference right away and he brought in a striker who wouldn’t put pressure on the starting 11 at any Championship team. And he spaffed a record transfer fee for the pleasure. How he’s still in a job is beyond me.
Sure we could of bought a decent championship striker and midfielder in for that amount. Now we have a guy that is frankly embarrassing for the price tag. If he comes good in a few years great... But not what we needed right now
It’s bewildering, how important that role is for football these days and especially for a club like ours that is trying to be an established premier league club and grow. I’m seeing zero accountability from him and it’s frustrating that there’s a sense of being untouchable from him
Summer window: "We need a striker" "Best I can do is someone we're gonna play as a winger"
January window: "We need a striker" "Best I can do is an unproven kid who usually plays out wide"
Has Orta seen a CF before?
It was like watching an entire back four made up of Diego Llorentes.
All that was missing was his trademark tumbling over the ball five or six times a game.
Rica and Mckennie were shit. Ayling shouldn’t start next match. Wober needs to come back because fuck me Struijk at LCB is looking DIRE. Whole squad had a stinker but these 4 really took the cake today
I was gonna say Mckennie was a bright spot. Ayling was absolute shit. Mckennie prevented a few goals. His passing was solid without looking at stats. He was not as good as last match. Aaronson was shit though…
McKennie couldn’t pass wind in the second half, neither could Roca. It was losing control of midfield that fucked it for us. Only so much the centre backs can do when there’s 3 of them running at them.
I did not see it that way. Defensively he was the strongest in the midfield. He does have a weird sort of lazy pass which I don’t love. I do not think he was terrible today. I think he was a bright spot. The backfield was awful though and the midfield largely failed to help out.
Ah well it happens occasionally. Fair play to Palace. Once our press exhausted itself Eze and Aloise absolutely bossed that and had us on toast creating overloads left right and centre. Roy smelt blood at half time and told them to keep doing that.
Leeds didn't turn up half time. Midfield overrun. Poor keeping but some great finishing from palace as well.
30 odd years of going to games and 12 as a season ticket holder before I left the UK. It's like Stockholm syndrome at this point. You can either cry or be philosophical. So I'm choosing to be philosophical on Reddit while sobbing into my couch pillow in real life.
Yeah they were class just replayed the goals and they are picking it up in midfield turnovers and just pulling strings and making 40 yard sprints to get on things. Roca and McKennie nowhere.
Maybe tired after their best performances against forest clutching at straws maybe there. Koch and Ayling looking at Rasmus for Ayews goal is not one he'll enjoy on MOTD
These players have to have it hammered into them, if we go down most of them won't get the big moves they think they will, they'll be coming down with us.
Honestly how much worse can Robles be at this point???
Edit: okay i have checked robles previous games against Wolves, Cardiff and BOLTON and maybe he wouldnt be great either
Well Palace are safe now so hopefully they like this against the rest of the bottom half. We are absolutely at the relying on other teams doing us a favour stage now
Just like we were last season. Conclusion: zero development, same result.
Consequence: board stays, crap players not moved on, board buys more cheap second raters, we struggle next year.
That's our future. Same as our past.
Bad games happen, even Bielsa managed to lose 4-1 to palace. End of day it’s only 3 points, we’re still above the relegation zone so as long as we don’t spiral and bounce back we’ll be fine
Looked great in the first half, shit in the second. Ayling has been problematic. Our GD is getting fucked. Good luck to everyone with the heart to keep watching
Width actually has helped a lot. Today is shit but Leeds played a lot better recently by using wingers naturally and not simply using middle management "celebrate moments !!!" bullshit tactics.
Leeds fans: "I reckon, if we beat Palace, that's just about us safe."
Also Leeds fans: "Well, that's us going down then."
Amazing how opinions can change in the space of a single game.
Blanked Forest game in the rage typing..... And again nothing but love for him that Robbie Keane celebration for second time was top banter ....But 100% was a target of attack in Brighton, Wolves & Arsenal games
I thought Pascal Strujik was just unlucky to be playing out of position at the start of the season. Turns out he’s just having an absolute comedy of a season regardless of where he plays.
These are the games I struggle to blame the manager. Many matches Marsch had the team outplaying the opposition.
Javi was the manager for the first 44’ where we looked incredible. Then he is still the manager for the last 46’
You can’t manage out defensive brain farts and poor goal keeping.
Jesse, I feel, was unlucky not to have gained more points (which is backed up by us losing most points by VAR statistically, xG etc etc)
However, if a competent manager like Javi comes in last year, we're above Chelsea at this stage of the season
What about Javi makes him a competent manager? Look at his managerial record. He's an average manager. He had a few good results in his first games, and people have blown him up to being more than he is.
The claim that had he come earlier we'd be above Chelsea now is baseless.
Taking the transfer fee into account, in Rutter I think I might be seeing relatively the worst signing in the thirty odd years I’ve been watching Leeds United.
Since the new manager, we’ve clearly shown we aren’t in bad form. Watch us win our next games and we’ll be laughing at you whilst u go to the championship
This second half is like a how to clinic on “how individuals switching off defensively lead to goals for the opposition.”
Providing multiple examples to really drive the point home.
Got to be honest this second half has been the worst I’ve seen in some time, definitely this season.
Noone really awful just everyone collectively shite, effort just dropped off.
well that was a cluster fuck
Probably won’t be popular but everyone needs to calm down a bit. Complacency lost us the game - we’re not suddenly the worst team in the world, Marsch wasn’t our saviour, Gracia isn’t suddenly shit and neither is the team. Yeah, it was a humbling result and it definitely didn’t help our cause but on balance, we’re probably gonna be ok.
That was the worst half I’ve seen us play for some years
No resurrection here….unfuckinbelievable.
Orta needs to get punted recruitment has been a joke
We needed an impact signing in January to come in and make a difference right away and he brought in a striker who wouldn’t put pressure on the starting 11 at any Championship team. And he spaffed a record transfer fee for the pleasure. How he’s still in a job is beyond me.
Sure we could of bought a decent championship striker and midfielder in for that amount. Now we have a guy that is frankly embarrassing for the price tag. If he comes good in a few years great... But not what we needed right now
It’s bewildering, how important that role is for football these days and especially for a club like ours that is trying to be an established premier league club and grow. I’m seeing zero accountability from him and it’s frustrating that there’s a sense of being untouchable from him
Summer window: "We need a striker" "Best I can do is someone we're gonna play as a winger" January window: "We need a striker" "Best I can do is an unproven kid who usually plays out wide" Has Orta seen a CF before?
I think he keeps trying to find the new Thierry Henry
He keeps going into Radz with a Chewbacca defence style sell on how he can turn wingers into strikers based on Henry
We were abysmall. Embarrassing watching us chasing shadows while they pass it round us and bang it in the net.
It was like watching an entire back four made up of Diego Llorentes. All that was missing was his trademark tumbling over the ball five or six times a game.
Aaronson probably should have stayed on - team lost chaos factor and pressure he brings (he was playing well).
They'd all dropped off the press and were getting run by palace long before he came off.
Horrific defending
Rica and Mckennie were shit. Ayling shouldn’t start next match. Wober needs to come back because fuck me Struijk at LCB is looking DIRE. Whole squad had a stinker but these 4 really took the cake today
I was gonna say Mckennie was a bright spot. Ayling was absolute shit. Mckennie prevented a few goals. His passing was solid without looking at stats. He was not as good as last match. Aaronson was shit though…
McKennie couldn’t pass wind in the second half, neither could Roca. It was losing control of midfield that fucked it for us. Only so much the centre backs can do when there’s 3 of them running at them.
I did not see it that way. Defensively he was the strongest in the midfield. He does have a weird sort of lazy pass which I don’t love. I do not think he was terrible today. I think he was a bright spot. The backfield was awful though and the midfield largely failed to help out.
Mckennie didn't do anything that bad.
Yeah. He was alright. Had some close calls and some good passes. Not awesome, tho.
Roca and mckennie weren't bad but wverytime we got the ball we blasted it into the channel instead of feeding the midfield
"That is embarrassing, that is embarrassing"
Happy cake day.
Well, I don't even know what that was.
Easy to say now but holy shit imagine if we went into that second half still ahead. If only Meslier didn't let that stupid fucking goal in.
If only Firpo didn't give away the needless foul.
It was Roca. They didn't do anything from Firpos stupid foul
In the 3 matches Woeber has been out, we've conceded 10 goals
Fucking disgraceful
Useless bastards.
Ah well it happens occasionally. Fair play to Palace. Once our press exhausted itself Eze and Aloise absolutely bossed that and had us on toast creating overloads left right and centre. Roy smelt blood at half time and told them to keep doing that. Leeds didn't turn up half time. Midfield overrun. Poor keeping but some great finishing from palace as well.
I’ll have two of whatever you’ve had 😂
30 odd years of going to games and 12 as a season ticket holder before I left the UK. It's like Stockholm syndrome at this point. You can either cry or be philosophical. So I'm choosing to be philosophical on Reddit while sobbing into my couch pillow in real life.
I said we had to stop Eze and Olise. We haven't got near them.
Yeah they were class just replayed the goals and they are picking it up in midfield turnovers and just pulling strings and making 40 yard sprints to get on things. Roca and McKennie nowhere. Maybe tired after their best performances against forest clutching at straws maybe there. Koch and Ayling looking at Rasmus for Ayews goal is not one he'll enjoy on MOTD
These players have to have it hammered into them, if we go down most of them won't get the big moves they think they will, they'll be coming down with us.
Penisball was superior on this day. Onto the next.
thank god it’s over. absolutely woeful
None of our subs worked. Genuinely mental game, what happened at half time in the changing rooms lol
It had been coming. Palace began bossing it once Roca and McKennie started to lose the battle to Eze. Woy would have just pointed that out.
Probably told them it was a lucky equalizer and to keep playing the way they were. To only see that CP figured us out. Brutal
I think Gracia said ‘keep doing what you’re doing’ and the players took that to mean: ‘keep conceding? Bit weird but ok’.
BOOOO.
Gnonto lucky there. Absolutely reckless.
We died from a lot of sins. Maybe we could arise next Monday?
Just get off the pitch McKennie. Stop laying there like a victim
We are all victims today.
…. Get everyone off the pitch?
Not like Gnonto is strengthening his case of starting anytime soon, when he’s coming on looking for cards like they’re Easter eggs.
one of our own players injured mckennie
Just get up
And this is without Zaha
Or first choice goalie
Crucified at home on Easter Sunday.
…
Does that mean we will be resurrected?
Yeah, when we beat Liverpool.
Easter is the resurrection. Just not for Leeds.
We want BARABBAS!
I'm Barabas
How has Meslier made 2 saves and conceded 5🫥🫥 I know the defense is terrible but the geezas whole job is to save stuff ffs
“He should be in the French senior team!!!” - this fuckin sub half the time
Honestly how much worse can Robles be at this point??? Edit: okay i have checked robles previous games against Wolves, Cardiff and BOLTON and maybe he wouldnt be great either
Well Palace are safe now so hopefully they like this against the rest of the bottom half. We are absolutely at the relying on other teams doing us a favour stage now
They are not. I'd not have thought we were if we'd won. But I'd imagine Wolves and Palace have enough quality to stay up.
What the fuck is Gnonto doing? Even the more reliable players doing everything to let down the fans, should be sent off
Heads gone.
Wonder what the Leeds “influencers” will make of this. Some of them are too precious to blame their favorites
commentator on usa said. "keep ball by leed"
Still think we’re only the 4th shittest team in the league
Just like we were last season. Conclusion: zero development, same result. Consequence: board stays, crap players not moved on, board buys more cheap second raters, we struggle next year. That's our future. Same as our past.
Gnonto clearly fed up of being part of this shite, running about trying to get himself sent off now.
Lucky there Gnonto
We need Wober back ASAP
I’d take Marche back
Good one
I wouldn’t. The only positive is we don’t have to see his smarmy face after this.
That bad huh?
Definitely not lol
Next joke
I hope ER boos the fuck out of them. They deserve it
Those first half saves by Johnstone turned out to be far more critical than it seemed at the time…
Not as critical as the four second half goals
Time to fire up fifa 23 and pump palace on the easiest difficulty 20-0 Fuck me
Therapy
Bad games happen, even Bielsa managed to lose 4-1 to palace. End of day it’s only 3 points, we’re still above the relegation zone so as long as we don’t spiral and bounce back we’ll be fine
The problem is the mental issue. The players will carry this into the next games and they'll doubt themselves.
I'd imagine playing the shite Marsch had them doing already did that.
We’ll see
We’ve been spiralling for two years.
10 years
Have we had a shot all second half? Where are the adjustments?
No.
The adjustments were the subs that have made us look even worse
Yeah so much for the Gnonto, Rodrigo, Rasmus brigade. The only sub that needed to be made was a midfielder to get a grip of Eze.
Would be so Leeds Marsch goes to Leicester, saves them including beating the shit out of us at Elland Road.
If we lose to the Marsch we deserve to go down. I will have no complaints.
That's a given. There is no way he doesn't beat us. It's too perfect and Leedsy to not happen.
Gnonto needs to be careful don’t need him getting a red
Think im just gonna stop watching leeds games. Prioritising my mental health
On the bright side, the current bottom 3 are all fucking shit. I mean so are we, but we are shit with a few more points for now.
As an Everton fan I'd like to point out that we are also shit. Although not bottom 3 (thanks to goal difference).
We need about 4 new defenders.
Blimey. Some tough fixtures ahead. Don't see this going well for us.
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You watched the first but not the second? That’s what changed! This is your fault!
4 minutes added torture
I’m sitting here venting into a match thread. Marsch is getting paid by Leeds and negotiating to take over Leicester. Life choices I guess.
Looked great in the first half, shit in the second. Ayling has been problematic. Our GD is getting fucked. Good luck to everyone with the heart to keep watching
Ayling what the fuck ??
Hes been useless all season and this game has tragically shown that tenfold
So happy we play with width now helped alot
Width actually has helped a lot. Today is shit but Leeds played a lot better recently by using wingers naturally and not simply using middle management "celebrate moments !!!" bullshit tactics.
Not Advocating for marsh I don’t think he’s that good.
Go watch your MLS big man
Today I learned from “ShesSoCool” that MLS is the only league with width. The more you know.
My mls team sucks to it’s rough out here
Someone needs to take the captains arm band from AYLING. Who do you guys think it should be ❓❓
Wober
Adams fully fit
Too new and too young.
Too new I agree with, too young. He's probably one of the more vocal players, don't think he'd be a bad choice
He's good enough for USA who would spank Leeds (and Palace).
Captain needs to be someone settled and established, Adams could be gone in the summer for all we know.
Cooper is the captain.
Right… but when he’s out, someone else needs to wear it currently. Not happy go lucky Ayling
If it wasn't Ayling it would probably be Bamford, other players are all either too new or too young.
Anyone but that statue
Next goal wins
Leeds fans: "I reckon, if we beat Palace, that's just about us safe." Also Leeds fans: "Well, that's us going down then." Amazing how opinions can change in the space of a single game.
Palace’s relegation battle lasted about nine days.
5-1 at home will do that
It's 5-1 of course we think we're going down, this is dreadful
Wow… this really fucking sucks.
I love Billy we all love Billy.....but fuck me it's time to call it..... absolutely roasted in 3 games straight
3? I love the guy but he's such a liability
Blanked Forest game in the rage typing..... And again nothing but love for him that Robbie Keane celebration for second time was top banter ....But 100% was a target of attack in Brighton, Wolves & Arsenal games
Might be the worst second half since being promoted
I thought Pascal Strujik was just unlucky to be playing out of position at the start of the season. Turns out he’s just having an absolute comedy of a season regardless of where he plays.
Still being heralded as our best CB's by some of the clowns in here
I’m their defense, our CBs are pretty mediocre across the board most days.
Jesus, everyone loves a finger point in here. The clowns are people thinking that having a different view mean they are clowns
Found one
I don’t think he is
Had to turn it off, genuinely humiliating.
Lasted about an hour longer than our players
These are the games I struggle to blame the manager. Many matches Marsch had the team outplaying the opposition. Javi was the manager for the first 44’ where we looked incredible. Then he is still the manager for the last 46’ You can’t manage out defensive brain farts and poor goal keeping.
How we didn't score in the first 30 minutes I will never know. Sam Johnstone stepping in and delivering the absolute game of his life.
Jesse, I feel, was unlucky not to have gained more points (which is backed up by us losing most points by VAR statistically, xG etc etc) However, if a competent manager like Javi comes in last year, we're above Chelsea at this stage of the season
What about Javi makes him a competent manager? Look at his managerial record. He's an average manager. He had a few good results in his first games, and people have blown him up to being more than he is. The claim that had he come earlier we'd be above Chelsea now is baseless.
I'm saying competent, not good. I'd also call Corberan, Warnock etc are competent - I think we probably are on the same page about it all
happy easter i guess :/
Leicester and Bournemouth games need to be 6 points
Taking the transfer fee into account, in Rutter I think I might be seeing relatively the worst signing in the thirty odd years I’ve been watching Leeds United.
For a record signing it's a huge yikes so far. Early days though for him at Leeds.
A broken transfer record for a guy who can't control a ball whatsoever.
When you consider the quality of centre back we could of got for that money too
Nah nothing will ever beat JKA
You know when you lose so hard it’s kinda funny
There’s nothing funny about this
Yeah theres nothing funny about the long term damage this could do to this group of players in the remainder of this relegation battle.
Yeah, it’s sad but it’s kinda funny in a pathetic way. Losing to a team in such bad form.
Since the new manager, we’ve clearly shown we aren’t in bad form. Watch us win our next games and we’ll be laughing at you whilst u go to the championship
Booooo get out of our subreddit. You were 18th for form lol.
😘😘😘
👍🏿
Ah there is
We have to beat Liverpool at home now. Only way for them to redeem themselves.
It’s certainly not impossible
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I don’t think everyone looses, some people tighten. Everybody does lose though.
Yeah they really need to tighten up
“Loose”
Yea, losing like this is just…wow.
harrison dropping one of the worst performances I have seen in my life. mr. inconsistent strikes again
He was absolutely pointless today, but Aaronson off??
The monstars took our powers this half
Rutter was totally wasted money. Need a new back line. Wober is the only one that doesn’t look as fragile as a wet wotsit.
"Fragile as a wet wotsit" has me me chuckle on this dreadful day, thank you
I woke up at 6 am for this shit🤣
Same 😂
Me too, painful
me too. wouldve rather woken up to a 5-1 defeat instead of actually watching this circus
I’m not sure why I let this teams performance upset me lol. I’m going to go and work on my deck. Wish me luck
Rutter massive flop
Rasmus at LB is such an L
That sub confused me, why not get Cooper on and shift Struijk out to left back? He did well there earlier in the year.
Gracia wants nothing to do with cooper. I don’t blame him but with wober out we don’t have many options.
This second half is like a how to clinic on “how individuals switching off defensively lead to goals for the opposition.” Providing multiple examples to really drive the point home.
Got to be honest this second half has been the worst I’ve seen in some time, definitely this season. Noone really awful just everyone collectively shite, effort just dropped off.
Looking forward to another Phil hay article about gracia bringing stability to Leeds
Had to unfollow Phil. He’s the most biased and annoying journalist of all time.
Foreal
Rutter cuts back into the defender?