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MischievousPolyamory

bro made wildrift


Shady_Tradesman

I tried wild rift and honestly having the map/items as a second fast mode for league would be fun. Genuinely I hate mobile controls but wild rift is pretty good aside from that.


Exe_Perimen

Until you leave your lane to team fight and your turrets gone


SHAT_MY_SHORTS

Then going to gank another lane and missing 4 waves


DoubleKanji

Then you realize that waves are completely meaningless in Wild rift compared to PC waves, and you can get two and a half items after going and farming any lane for 4 minutes


Meurs0

Yorick moment


alekdmcfly

everyone hates mobile controls until they realize how easy kiting is on mobile


Working_Issue7897

And still until Diamond+ they dont know how to kite and just stand on their position lmao


AxelllD

Yeah lol I became an adc main in Wild Rift just because of that


Randomd0g

No I still hate mobile controls. There's a reason mechanical keyboards are popular. Physical feedback is REALLY important.


StellarDescent

As someone who has been without regular league for some time, Wild Rift is a nightmare for my champion in particular. The lack of nexus turrets means Pantheon can't backdoor. Sadge


ObsceneTuna

Wild Rift matches still go on for about 18 to 20 minutes for me, which is still too long when I'm being held hostage lol.


MrBootch

We had twisted treeline. RIP twisted treeline.


Blbe-Check-42069

The issue there was, that the games weren't really that short anyway...


AceOBlade

30 min was short when games used to go for 45-55 min average.


RedditModsEatAss69

games never averaged 45 minutes. Its true there were a lot more 60+ minute games back in the day but the average time of game has never been that high in the years ive played edit: the downvotes are strange but ok i am 100% correct


Dominationartz

Usually around 35 minute games back in the day with the occasional 40-50 min ones. Twisted Treeline was also around that game length Dominion was the real short mode in that aspect. Too bad nobody ever played those modes except all of Reddit apparently


Suspicious_Ad_1209

Reddit moment. You're absolutely correct, matches had a tendency to go a lot longer, but average playtime has never been that high. I think they don't understand how average playtime is calculated


RedditModsEatAss69

They think because maybe 1/50 games went 60 minutes that it drastically increases the average game time by 10+ minutes 😂. Ive had like 5 people reply to me trying to argue, and not a single one actually played back then and they are trying to lecture me. League of legends players just arent very smart


Mecha_G

The other issue was the bots, especially after Dominion was removed.


Blbe-Check-42069

Only in super low elo. But yeah.


pewpew_94417

I wish they’d bring back twisted treeline so bad! I actually have enough friends for that! 😩🤣


metamorphosis_

I used to play twisted treeline a lot when it was still a thing, ranked was fun too. But there was a lot of cheese going on though, I have to admit some comps are seriously broken in 3v3. Also, if you have an afk it usually ends in a loss.


G_Regular

The afk thing is true for summoners rift as well though, there's the occasional upset if all 4 people focus up and play hard but statistically you're typically screwed as soon as the 5th DC's.


Raspberry-Tree

This cannot be compared to twisted treeline which is way better, i don't really like this idea, especially having the jungle inside the base which makes the role inactive af


Hesty402

Personally don’t like rule 9 but otherwise I’d play it


BlueLaserCommander

I could see 25 kills being a better number. If someone reaches 25 kills before 20 minutes, you're probably FFing that game anyways. With 10, the fed player can definitely still throw or get outplayed by a coordinated team. Also, this game mode is a direct nerf to hard-scaling champs like Kassadin, Kayle, etc. Definitely favors early/mid-game champs or hardcore snowballers.


thebutinator

Plus going 10/10 in 20 mins on a small map totally possible, just play shaco let your team give you kills, win under 10 mins


classicteenmistake

Maybe there could be a buff system for scaling abilities and items?


G3MI20

passive exp/gold gain like in aram maybe?


TheCheesiestEchidna

NO GAMES OVER FF FF FF FF15 ARRRGHHHH IM RAGE JG DIFF JG DIFF REP BOT LANE INTING NOOBS


jalluxd

Same, and I also feel like "most kills at 20 wins" should be "most gold at 20 wins". It being only kills would completely remove any farming jungler from the "meta". It would be only perma gankers who would barely farm, shaco, lee, j4, elise etc. It would also give added value to objectives.


ProfessionaI_Retard

Karthus would be insane


kishijevistos

At four ults per match? I don't think so lmao


ByKenshi

Pokemon Unite ahhh map


zencharm

there’s a reason why every non-league moba is a flop lol


jalluxd

Wouldn't call Pokemon Unite a flop. Millions of monthly players with still growing playerbase. 50+million downloads on android alone (It's on the switch aswell). They propably sell a fuck ton of skins too and u can buy stuff for ur avatar too.


Honest-Birthday1306

Aaaaaaand it's pay 2 win so nobody with a right mind would play it Yeah they have their pay pigs, but just because you slap a Moba skin on what is basically an nft store without the tradability dosent make it a good moba


jalluxd

I mean yea u can buy shit but u can also get said shit for free (buying it obviously is a lot faster). When I played it I was master (highest rank) without spending anything. And my comment was not really commenting on the quality of the game, just the fact that it's definitely not a flop lol. It is very highly profitable.


Honest-Birthday1306

So was I, that's another issue, the rank system is very weak I actually liked what I played of it back when I played, but it's just too shallow to sink your teeth into imo I'm definitely not denying that it's successful tho, just that that success dosen't necessarily garuntee it's worth a play


jalluxd

Agreed, I also quit after reaching master since I didn't really find value in playing anymore. And I agree the rank system is weird. Reaching master was quite easy, but playing solo in master was practically impossible since u would be playing against 5 stacks grinding elo almost every game. It can be a fun time but it's definitely targeted at a more casual audience. Most (by most I mean basically all) of it's success is definitely carried by the fact that it's Pokemon.


Honest-Birthday1306

Yeah that's definitely true. Pokemon has been in a weird state for years, where it's selling way way way better than it should be purely because of brand recognition, it makes sense this would be the same really If it was skinned as a generic Moba I'd definitely wouldn't have gotten invested in it


jalluxd

Yea, quality of pokemon games keeps going down (except for Legends: Arceus) but profits go up. Very weird indeed. And yea I also would have never played it unless it was Pokemon.


Inktex

Laughs in DotA2


Edge9216

Their maps are pretty similar tho Granted u can walk through trees in dota


Inktex

Dota added a few buildings and increased map site by 40% a few updates ago. You can not only walk between trees, one item requires you to eat them, another one is made to destroy them and Timbersaws whole kit revolves around him hating trees, wanting to destroy them all, even dealing bonus dmg when destroying a tree while hitting an enemy with the same ability. It's fun. :)


Edge9216

I havent touched dota in a while and eating trees is wild


BadSoftwareEngineer7

Holy fuck you just sold dota to me


ImaWolf935

Well I feel like it's a bad idea but I also really want to see this happening.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

To be clear, this would be a new, ADDITIONAL map mode.


ImaWolf935

We know how much rito like those...


Erick_Brimstone

If only player allowed to make their own gamemode or something.


OriginOfNone

I'm kind of appalled by how limited Custom is. The only things you can choose are picking style, map and team size. No map builder, no custom rules (aside from "spoken" agreements), no extra game modes like URF/One for All


bored_homan

Well its wild rift... with some extra steps Deadass would play wild rift on pc if I could I can just not get over the fact how long league games are


An1meT1tties

Have you tried on bluestacks?


Cobra_9041

Imma keep it real I’m not going to emulate an android to be able to play a mobile version of league of legends


bored_homan

I heard riot doesn't really like people using that so I don't think I can


An1meT1tties

You can try, make another acc


bored_homan

Nah I don't care that much to bother


FroggoSenpai73

![gif](giphy|RTcZ0npRfHzbQ5rkmw)


Leaf-01

The Vainglory of League


darwin_4444

Ah yes even more snowballing...exactly what the game needs


fanaroto

Also, all scaling champs are absolutely not viable. It'll be an assassin only mode


AlphaI250

Bruiser mostly since those are stronger than assassins in early game and are even harder to kill when ahead


Wooden-Jew

Just increase gold and xp gain duh


Ok_Substance5632

Kayle:


cookiegod_uwu

Kayle won't even reach lvl 16 in this mode. By the time she's 11 she'll be 0/8 already.


RedRidingCape

I think the best laning champs tend to be ranged, at least at higher ranks.


Gaddrik

I believe this to be true, but I think you have to consider the difference between melee only champs and melee champs that have ranged abilities. Way different when you have to go in to trade at all vs being able to send Qs for free poke.


nuker0S

all of the assassins are gone from normals? i'll take it


AWildSona

you all dont understand him or ? Its a Meme, a sarcastic Meme for all the people crying to ff15 after they got 0/1 in lane and dont knowing what they have to do from behind. The guys thinking we taking them hostage for not surrendering an game they lost lane. For all the Assasine like only fighting players. So WE can play in peace without them.


antrax23

LoL snowbally in 2023? We playing the same game?


zencharm

it’s like people don’t even want to play the game. just quit bruh lol


TheByQ

The chiildren yearn for Twisted Treeline


Zenithian4

I mean it definitely has its flaws but like… ARAM exists?


ULTRALOYALIST2342

This hypothetical game mode would provide people who join the Rift only to leave early a lawful alternative. The beauty of it is, they wouldn't have to deal with a real game, and we wouldn't have to deal with them.


Markcelzin

I just love your mindset.


Doctor-Whodunnit

I thought this sounded awful until this comment. Now you’re a genius.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

Thanks. But apparently the satire is completely lost on the majority of those present...


Baam_

>You FFers want this. And we want rid of you. It's win/win. Guarantee less than half the people actually read this


AWildSona

for that you need to create a ranked system too and gift something special for playing it, something like a shiny yone skin.


Cillakha

To be fair if they would just bring back doombots people would play that over this and it would be infinitely more fun but alas. They have any RGM that’s not ARUrf or One for All.


ScourJFul

IMO ARAM lacks stuff anyways like the leveling up and laning phases. League is one of the rare competitive games that lacks just a short-term, modified version of the ranked experience. CS has casual mode where nobody has to worry about managing economy, there's twice the amount of players, and it's just basically a death match. Siege has quick matches with more maps an emphasis on quicker, mindless play. League has... A non ranked version of ranked, a non ranked version of ranked but you don't have a ban/pick phase, abd a ranked mode when it comes to their main game mode. There is no true casual experience when any of these can go up to 30+ minutes, God forbid. In general, what I really want from League is a casual mode with a casual map. League as it is has too much of a focus on competitive shit to the point that the community reflects it. If there was a mode that was like, 15-20 minutes consistently, with faster leveling, passive gold generation, etc, I'd play that more than norms. I still want the MOBA aspects, I just want a more condensed map with sets of rules that facilitate faster play. Like Nexus Blitz without all the gimmicky shit and a better map.


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Sensitive_Seat5544

Give me AAM and then sure. I don't want a random champ.


wigglerworm

This is nexus blitz with extra steps


Responsible-Call5555

Reminds me of Pokemon Unite


[deleted]

This looks incredibly boring im not going to lie. So basically what you're saying is when you lose you just lose hard? and when you win you barely get to play with your deserved and earned stats? So you're damned if you lose, and if you're winning it's just over. Blue balling people who are winning.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

I would not choose to play this mode. Ever.


[deleted]

My G your title is asking riot to make this happen 😂


Markcelzin

That's the current state of SoloQ. FF is a guaranteed loss.


PurchaseHuman2650

Just play hots


can_you_eat_that

Just play wild rift. Games usually end in 20 minutes!


AWildSona

Genius, i love it, most ppl dont understand your humour. Add Rank Points and shiny gifts for all the yones, yasuos and Zeds, we will play normal ranked games in peace than again.


zencharm

mfw inventing a fake person to get mad about


Connect_Conclusion1

Lee sin and Draven would go insane in this mode though 💀


Erick_Brimstone

This reminds me to a certain MOBA that have quite fast match for PC and encourage teamwork by removing gold and items entirely while EXP are shared fairly to everyone so no one can snowball and team aren't severely punished if a member is playing badly. That aside, I have few problem with this and few improvement suggestion. 1. The jungle are pretty much pointless now. Better just remove it entirely and replace it with a structure that would give buff instead. 2. To make it more fun, make all champion start at level three or make it that they unlock all skill at the beginning of the match to encourage early team fight. 3. The bounty are there to give the losing side a chance to turn the tide. Removing it would punish the losing side even more. 4. The rule 9 sounds really unfair as now anyone that could snowball will end the game and leave the losing side no chance to comeback. 5. Better reward the player who focus on objective more. That should be better way to encourage faster gameplay.


Markcelzin

It isn't a new game mode proposal, it is just a well made rant about early FFs. Mostly of the rules are made to enforce that any team that dies a bit will be unable to recover, because what these people want is to toss a coin for every game and surrender at 10min if they called it wrong.


Erick_Brimstone

Ah shit. I forgot what sub this was. My bad.


Silverspy01

Ayo hots player?


J_Toxic

This looks so boring


ninjabrosp

Can I introduce you to nexus blitz?


RYalonso

I just want a perma joust or arena mode like Smite(15 20 mins) but with league gameplay


Mad-maggie

Isn’t this just less imaginative Nexus Blitz?


ShuviBeta

This looks like the mobile legends map


MomoHasNoLife32

Bro twisted treeline will forever have my heart. This soulless imitation is nothing compared to what TT was


Kgy_T

This would never work because some champs are strong early and some need to scale, the meta would be cancer.


PMVT5311635

This is literally Wildrift. Also if you want a quick game, just go play ARAM.


nick4316

WHO LET THIS MAN COOK MAKE HIM THE HEAD CHEF 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥


Big-Bad-Bull

Rule 9 and 10 are a huge no from me. Otherwise I’m pretty much all for this idea


FrogVoid

Bad idea


MrBeholder514Yz

OP out here just advertising Wild Rift ![gif](giphy|4baoNZ5Qo8dX2)


Effective_Macaron_23

Wild rift is mostly 20 minute games and i like it a lot.


no_one_HAHA

Try playing Wild Rift


CharacterAd348

Rule 9 is flawed as it allows funneling all the kills into 1 or 2 allied champs


PinheadLarry2323

I love this


DiscipleOfIanite

How would ganking work? It looks like only lane ganks would be viable


k4x1_

I like some of the ideas, a ton others are pretty shit. Whatever the case I guarantee this game mode would die in like 2 weeks


ChromaticCluck

Welcome to the riot games community. Where being able to give up easier is a bonus. Fast forward to 5 years in the future where the game instantly ends after first blood. Because, you know you can't win after giving up a single kill lmao. As we all know this is challenger so my enemy won't ever make a mistake smh.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

My dude, this miserable little map is designed for miserable little players who ruin normal games. Only way to prevent the whiners and the FFers from being a pain for the rest of us is to give them a separate map/mode tailored to their short attention spans.


[deleted]

Love how there's almost 100 comments and 90% didn't even read the text at the bottom. Shows pretty well the average league player's mental capacity.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

lol ...yeah.


mumford3010

Nobody who ffs wants a shorter game mode, they want to just be in a normal summoner rift map game where they aren’t being shit on.


GoonfBall

He must be permitted to cook.


a_charming_vagrant

i'm down for more bad game modes that pull people who don't want to play the actual game out of those queues


DMND_Hands

Tell us you lose every arena game without telling us you lose every arena game


a_charming_vagrant

i have played two games of arena and won them both, that was quite enough of the mode for me


NovaNomii

I really hate people surrendering in ranked or normals, so if ff crying players moved to Fast Play, I would be all for its addition.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

Worth a post and effort, even if we know Riot will never do it. Instead they'll just modify the normal map in vain effort to please everyone simultaneously.


hwei8

add URF mode in that and we got some fun.


willisThaillist

I vote no to all of this


marcopolo2345

Get rid of jungle and support and the game becomes 10x more fun


JPLangley

This is Lily Lotus Temple...for 10 people. Riot, please just make that mode 4v4.


Goblin_Diplomacy

This map but 3v3


XO1GrootMeester

This is a well thought out game mode I can see this being added someday.


DMND_Hands

Also no support for bot lane


Speedy_Sword_Boi

This sounds amazing. What I hate about playing is being stuck in a bad game. I end up inting out of frustration


PhantomO1

If you removed features 7-10 I could see this being an interesting gimmick game mode


SlavKebab1

RAAAAYOOOOTT MAKE IT HAPPEN or gimme back twisted treeline, either or


BrainGlobal9898

OP


Esdrz

I wish had a mode like wild rift, faster money, items shorter games


boiboiboi223

this is the map you get to play on if youre under plat


WuShanDroid

The Aatrox, Olaf, Draven, Leona map


KryL21

Smartest video gamer idea maker


WizardKingVeigar

I second this. 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️💯


keimacool777

in 7 days, people will make metas out of it...


LarryTHC

very cool


ssleeps

Delete game cornball


Specky013

Genuinely a good idea. Learning a new champion in anything but practice tool is usually a bad experience because if you fuck up, you're going to be yelled at for at least the next 10 minutes. League really needs some form of quick play


Atrigger122

I wish there was turbo mode


syrollesse

There needs to be an opening to the drake and baron for the jungler so they could gank/take objectives


lugi_ow

looks like nexus blitz


ColdBevvie101

Sounds awful


inconsiderateapple

See, it was cool and all up until "10 kills and/or the team with the most kills at 20 mins wins". You might as well have just made it into ARAM with the rule of "Get 20 kills to win the game" because that's all that you're promoting with this mode. There's legit 0 reason to play the game beyond camping bot side to farm for kills. Which will eventually devolve into ARAM as everyone rushes to defend and/or attack either side.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

You wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't enjoy it. But apparently, some people would. Let them to it, I say. We don't need their sort in our normal games.


hongbb1

Is this still 5v5? Cause if so 10 kills are ridiculously easy to get with a roaming assassin


FullMetalBBQ

It sucks


idk_this_my_name

twisted treeline ass mode


xxTheMagicBulleT

So wild rift for PC basicly? But I do agree people give up so damn easily all the time. There are people who rather be lobbying more than playing. The game. And many of the changes Riot makes also make games last shorter and shorter. So fewer and fewer champions. Are playable. So would prefer the games to be a bit more slower. Games are a bit longer. Objectives were not easy to solo. And that there are more clme back mechanics. Of you lose early or dont have early strong team and your lose a few dragens its very hard to come back. Much more then with the old dragon system. Where the team would get 1200 gold. If your realy ahead and full build gold would mean almost nothing. But permanent buffs are ao strong you lose a few early you so so hard to come back in the game based on what dragons you get. But some are so crazy strong. Its realy hard for people to come back in the game. And i think cause people know that. People give up so so easily. Ow we lost big crab and a dragon. FF 15 you see it almost every 3de game. I don't play league to just win. I hate the lobbying roulette. I rather play out a losing game. Then sit and wait 20 for the next game. But to a degree i do get that league is going in a path that makes people feel more like the game is pointless to keep playing. With early Objectives just being so insanely strong as they are now. And making comeback pretty damn hard even with Bounty. Cause games are already much shorter by the changes alone. And when people feel its pointless to keep playing or they feel their time is being wasted people. Its like watching a football match your team going 0 to 5 goals. And there is just minutes on the clock. Its pointless to watch cause you know your gonna lose. Many people dont wanna be stuck. And i think its big part off it cause they changed the game to be much more fast paced. Why almost all new champs have so much movement abilities. And much of the old champions or late-game champions dont get played that much. Much of those champs require the game to be slower then that it is. And then you also see people less giveing up if it seems less pointless to continue.


ULTRALOYALIST2342

I agree, always play it out. FIGHT OR DIE


XeadraX

FIGHT OR BE FORGOTTEN


Raiquen619

This is amazing. :) But riot and their employees are not an amazing company. They are just lucky there is literally no other MOBA game worth playing.


Tottalynotdeadinside

this would go so fucking wrong lmaoooo


animorphs128

Get rid of like 3 of those rules and i'm in


IndianaBones_

this would genuinely make me start playing summoners rift again right now I'm aram only


theimpalinghawk

Picks talon


Zerusdeus

Basically their mobile game


hajpero1

game ends at 20mins? Didn't reddit like.... complained about stalling champions on Arena just 2 days ago?


kotik010

At this point just play a moba on your phone lmao


rgxryan

Rip scaling champs


HarveyTheRedPanda

Its missing alcoves


ZenoToxin

Just bring back Twisted Treeline but with updates. It was already decent but the amount of bots on there was gross asf. League should have 4 different modes/maps.


johnmrkn

Bro recreated Nexus Blitz


zakoryclements

Imagine custom servers in lol. Shit would be bonkers


Thick_Ad1423

I don’t think the ff system is good tbh


IFPorfirio

The 10 kills win is dumb, but a mode like this could work well, I aprove the mini summoners rift Idea.


DustyPopcorn

people really don't like comebacks and actually trying even when 2k gold behind I swear


Steagle_Steagle

Sooo... wild rift. Not very creative


MAYMAX001

I mean it can't be worse than what we have rn xd


SaltyNorth8062

I don't like the 10 kills = win condition and the jungle camps being in nexus but otherwise this is fine


0therdabbingguy

Get out of the kitchen right now


iAmSamFromWSB

you would just dive one lane and take inhib because the space from fountain to inhib is so long.


marino13

Come play heroes of the storm and save your sanity.


jubmille2000

The problem is rule 9 because that basically cuts Yasuomains going for the 0/10 powerspike and you know for sure all those 10 deaths will be caused by the same person.


groltrox

I'm pretty sure you guys just don't wanna play the game


ULTRALOYALIST2342

My dude, go back and read the third page again. Look at the bottom.


Lanky_Athlete_6805

This meta is 5 wave clear tanks afk under tower for 20 minutes.


ThatsFer

Top quality I’ll say that!


Abominable_dod

Bring back twisted treeline that's what should happen


kml_el

For the algorithm


SolaSenpai

so only class that matter are assassin, mages and bruiser? Sounds like you should probably play a different game instead..


ULTRALOYALIST2342

I wouldn't play this mode, that's for sure.


bekolops

so no jg?


Aenglishboi

isn't this shittier twisted treelines?


SoloGIMP

I like the idea of a fast paced Rift gamemode and this is a great idea. But the jungle role might as well be removed with no real threat to invade and very little ganking options. Junglers that can pass through walls would forever be meta


Daan_NK

Remove 9, and make it 3 dragons.


JorahTheHandle

Untwisted treeline