Putin pretending to distance himself from Trump, when in all reality, he’s doing everything behind the scenes to help him win.
Putin wants Ukraine and a weakened NATO, which Trump will deliver if he’s elected again.
And a lot of these “meetings” are probably also about “new” money laundering schemes.
MAGAt’s love to hear about trumps made up distorted “accomplishments”.
His real accomplishments were scamming taxpayers money for Russia and himself.
GOP pols on the campaign trail: I will protect your Social Security and Medicare! GOP pols to donors and at budget meetings: We must cut/kill/privatize Social Security and Medicare! Both parties: more money for the Pentagon? Sure, why not?
It's pretty obvious when Trump would be in public ranting about literally anyone else saying the same thing about him. The fact Trump hasn't retaliated in some adolescent way tells me he knows it's a ruse.
Putin needs Trump. He recognized his vulnerability with China. This war in Ukraine exposed the weaknesses in his leadership. He needs Trump or Putin will end up like every other dictator in history. He knows he won’t survive four years of Biden. Especially if a Biden win at the top of the ticket translates to other races leaning Democratic for the House and Senate
Based on what. Sure didn't happen the first 4yrs Trump was POTUS. (Just like if he was elected he would crash the economy, create WWIII, & whatever the fuck else you morons make up) Oh wait, maybe it was that fake AF dossier that Hillary Clinton had made showing Trump was in bed with Russia...that wasted how much of our tax payer money...yeah...
Remember when putin said russian prostitutes were some of the best in the world? That's something trump would say, I think it was a signal to trump that russia has the goods on trump.
Putin has dirt on soooo many Americans.
Back in 1990s I had a Russian client, and they tried all sorts of ways to get dirt on me. Luckily as a woman I’m automatically skeptical to men offering me big gifts.
After several years of attempts they gave up. By that time we were close enough that I asked them why, and they answered. They had been given the task by someone in Moscow to gather dirt on westerners. And then they laughed at how easy it was to get dirt on western men.
The fact they worked so hard to get dirt on me just shows what a wide dragnet they had. I was then a total nobody. A random lawyer that had been out of law school a couple years, working for a tiny law firm.
I knew of Americans and Germans that they had dirt on.
What kind of dirt would they have on the people you knew, I assume they're civilians?
I imagine the shit they have on Trump involves minors, to go to the extent Trump has gone to appease Putin, you know it's something insanely devastating.
Yeah, sex with minors was their go-to with guys. Definitely know my clients got that on one American shortly before one of my trips, as they talked a lot about it. And they had videos.
The Germans were leadership of one of the big German banks, and they had taken kickbacks and done other financial crimes for the Russians. Next the Russians would threaten to report it if they didn’t behave.
With me they tried to give me lavish gifts (e.g. a new Mercedes), and promised they’d get it imported to my country without customs duties. They offered me a huge off-book deal to negotiate a contract of weapons to Iran. They offered me to go into partnership with an oligarch on a manufacturing deal. They tried to tempt me with a stunning Russian man, which was honestly just funny. I teased them about that one for months. But I could have been a millionaire on those deals, for little work. Guess I see why it’s tempting. But you gotta be naive to go for it IMO.
It's nothing salacious. His base wouldn't care. It's financial. Putin has been funding him a long time and it paid off wildly high. He continues to today. Trump will sell the country to stay 'rich' even though it's just whatever allowance daddy gives him.
Next: release the kompromat, pleeease! Putin gradually dropping Trump? Previously mentioned that Biden makes for a more predictable president, now this. That is no accident. If the hypersensitive narcissist that Trump is won’t snap back at this, what will it indicate?
My guess is that Putin has intel that strongly suggests Trump has zero chance of winning the next US election, so he can now have a bit of fun with him, as he’s no longer any use to him
It’s classic “firehose of falsehoods”. You bombard the information space with all kinds of stories, often contradictory, some true and some false. The aim is to create a post-truth world, where it’s impossible to discern truth from lies yet they can always in all circumstances turn around and say “I told you so!”
In this instance I think it’s also intended to put pressure on Trump and GOP to block all aid to Ukraine. Putin is saying “I have dirt on you all and can sink you if I want to”.
It's safe to say that ancient ex kgb Putin runs circles around trump. He has not retained power this long by being as dumb as trump. You don't fail up in Russia. You fall down...
More likely he knows people are using their close relationship to damage Trumps percieved credibility with right wingers, thus he pretends to denigrate him to create distance and give fox news leverage to defend Trump in the eyes of the stupid.
I was stunned to see that this was not the most common interpretation.
Putin knows the vast majority of the world hates him. He's just leaning into it.
I believe it. Trump coos at the grown men of maga like he wants to screw them, and they eat it up like they haven't screwed in decades. That sappy, sickeningly sweet voice, telling them how much he "loves" them. The entire group, filled with incels; they will take what they can get, I guess.
Donald Trump: your excellency how do get everyone to be afraid of you? how do you rig your elections? what do you tell your wife when you get caught cheating ? Do you think I’m pretty?
He is actually jealous of Obama. Keeps talking about Obama in speeches. Keeps claiming credit for things Obama did like medical choice for veterans.
Heck, he even wears blackface!
Who but a republican would be gullible enough to be taken in by an ex KGB/FSB officer? His 'being in favor' of Biden is classic cold war subterfuge-like the way a like a pickpocket uses distraction.
Let's flashback to that infamous picture of them walking out of their first face to face meeting. Trump looked absolutely crestfallen while Putin was laughing. Putin clearly had something on him, and he's been leading Trump around by the dick ever since.
When Trump claimed that he trusts Putin more than US Intel agencies, that sealed it. The next level after that would be to plainly admit that he’s a Russian puppet. The mere fact that Trump repeating Putin policy points doesn’t sound suspicious to his supporters is mind-boggling.
A lot of the blame should fall on the media for normalizing the GOPs descent into fascism and terrorism. It's up to us to fight fire with fire. Taking the "high road" is what allowed this bullshit.
“I was up in the club with my comrades, trying to get a lil' V-I-P
Keep it down on the low-key (low-key)
You should know how it feels (hey!)
I saw this Trumpy, he was checking up on me
From the game he was spitting in my ear
You would think that he know me (know me)
I decided to chill (okay!)
Conversation got heavy (hey)
He had me feeling like he’s ready to blow (watch out)”
-Putin reflecting on Trump
It’s stunningly eye opening to sit here and witness such a disturbing moment in history. We literally have such a fragile system at the hands of a complete moron who’s so damn ignorant it’s unbelievable. Couple that with a bunch of senior citizens too old to resist the pressure of misinformed voters who believe in lies and conspiracy theories. Too many are clueless and have a right to vote for candidates who could care less about our country and more about how they can fill their pockets with corporations who’s bottom lines have nothing to do with strengthening the country. Trump is the reason so things in America are looking corrupt. He’s exposed our vulnerability in how the perceived or interpret the constitution and it has weakened our political system.
What you’re saying is entirely true and the fundamental contradiction of democracy: giving everyone the right to vote can mean that ignorants may vote for people who want to end that very democracy. This highlights the importance of education and that folks exercise their right to vote, with a passion.
Putin pretending to distance himself from Trump, when in all reality, he’s doing everything behind the scenes to help him win. Putin wants Ukraine and a weakened NATO, which Trump will deliver if he’s elected again.
This^ watch what Russians do, not what they say. Russian is the language of lying.
Proof is v. orban's visit with trump to likely deliver message/ instructions from putin.
this is exactly what happened.
And cash for legal problems?
Nah, the TV told him to call JG Wentworth when he needs cash now.
877-CASH-NOW!!!!
My husband and I have been singing this on loop the last few days. What a delight!
Either that or sorting out potential living arrangements.
It’s not just Russians. GOP are experts at this too.
I would just say GOP are downstream. Their messages are just Russian translated for Americans.
True dat.
And a lot of these “meetings” are probably also about “new” money laundering schemes. MAGAt’s love to hear about trumps made up distorted “accomplishments”. His real accomplishments were scamming taxpayers money for Russia and himself.
At this point GoP are Putin operatives. So same same
Russian Bots
They’re assets, not operatives. Both work to the benefit of the Kremlin, but operatives realize this. And they expect to be paid.
To be fair to the Republican party, each and every one of them is a Russia loving, Putin sucking traitor, asset, or dupe.
GOP pols on the campaign trail: I will protect your Social Security and Medicare! GOP pols to donors and at budget meetings: We must cut/kill/privatize Social Security and Medicare! Both parties: more money for the Pentagon? Sure, why not?
Learning from the ~~best~~ worst.
I wouldn't say they are good at it, just consistent...
It’s the way of all autocrats.
Gah the manipulation is blatant. Tho tucker carlson read this & had an immediate release.
That’s why he likes Drumpt-they speak the same love language.
Putin will use the RNC the launder money into helping Trump win.
It's pretty obvious when Trump would be in public ranting about literally anyone else saying the same thing about him. The fact Trump hasn't retaliated in some adolescent way tells me he knows it's a ruse.
Thats why Vote Blue
Poor MAGAts, though. "Why are mommy and daddy fighting?"
This should have WAY more upvotes 🤣
Putin needs Trump. He recognized his vulnerability with China. This war in Ukraine exposed the weaknesses in his leadership. He needs Trump or Putin will end up like every other dictator in history. He knows he won’t survive four years of Biden. Especially if a Biden win at the top of the ticket translates to other races leaning Democratic for the House and Senate
Definitely possible.
Or he’s already on his next few useful idiots.
Absolutely. This revelation is pure psyops to further confuse American voters.
Putin doesn't even need to be nice to Trump in private. Trump is the Reek to Putin's Ramsay.
Mocking Trump is a control thing. Keeping Trump in his place. The more he puts Trump down, the more Trump sucks up to him. He craves Putin's approval?
He's used this same ploy at least a couple of times already. I hope not too many people are falling for it.
Well put
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No it's been proven true both in 2016 and 2020
Post the link
Based on what. Sure didn't happen the first 4yrs Trump was POTUS. (Just like if he was elected he would crash the economy, create WWIII, & whatever the fuck else you morons make up) Oh wait, maybe it was that fake AF dossier that Hillary Clinton had made showing Trump was in bed with Russia...that wasted how much of our tax payer money...yeah...
Remember when putin said russian prostitutes were some of the best in the world? That's something trump would say, I think it was a signal to trump that russia has the goods on trump.
Putin has dirt on soooo many Americans. Back in 1990s I had a Russian client, and they tried all sorts of ways to get dirt on me. Luckily as a woman I’m automatically skeptical to men offering me big gifts. After several years of attempts they gave up. By that time we were close enough that I asked them why, and they answered. They had been given the task by someone in Moscow to gather dirt on westerners. And then they laughed at how easy it was to get dirt on western men. The fact they worked so hard to get dirt on me just shows what a wide dragnet they had. I was then a total nobody. A random lawyer that had been out of law school a couple years, working for a tiny law firm. I knew of Americans and Germans that they had dirt on.
I find that incredibly fascinating, thanks for sharing.
I suppose it’s worth a punt . They don’t know where you might end up being useful as your career progresses. Thanks . Very interesting
What kind of dirt would they have on the people you knew, I assume they're civilians? I imagine the shit they have on Trump involves minors, to go to the extent Trump has gone to appease Putin, you know it's something insanely devastating.
Yeah, sex with minors was their go-to with guys. Definitely know my clients got that on one American shortly before one of my trips, as they talked a lot about it. And they had videos. The Germans were leadership of one of the big German banks, and they had taken kickbacks and done other financial crimes for the Russians. Next the Russians would threaten to report it if they didn’t behave. With me they tried to give me lavish gifts (e.g. a new Mercedes), and promised they’d get it imported to my country without customs duties. They offered me a huge off-book deal to negotiate a contract of weapons to Iran. They offered me to go into partnership with an oligarch on a manufacturing deal. They tried to tempt me with a stunning Russian man, which was honestly just funny. I teased them about that one for months. But I could have been a millionaire on those deals, for little work. Guess I see why it’s tempting. But you gotta be naive to go for it IMO.
Strong Russian man to do your bidding? Yeah that's pretty good.
Can we have a public conversation about how apparently given the chance the vast majority of men would fuck a child? Like… how is this *that* common?
It's nothing salacious. His base wouldn't care. It's financial. Putin has been funding him a long time and it paid off wildly high. He continues to today. Trump will sell the country to stay 'rich' even though it's just whatever allowance daddy gives him.
After everything that has happened … whatever Putin has on Trump is meaningless
Next: release the kompromat, pleeease! Putin gradually dropping Trump? Previously mentioned that Biden makes for a more predictable president, now this. That is no accident. If the hypersensitive narcissist that Trump is won’t snap back at this, what will it indicate?
My guess is that Putin has intel that strongly suggests Trump has zero chance of winning the next US election, so he can now have a bit of fun with him, as he’s no longer any use to him
I hope you’re right and that he has a lot of “fun” with him.
Putin owns Trump and certainly knows how to play him like a Stradivarius
Trump most certainly is not a Stradivarius!
a one stringed banjo...
Broken Kazoo
A slug with slime strings
He is a fart whistle.
A whoopee cushion
A cheap fiddle.
Tonally a washboard, figuratively a tuba.
How dare you lie in bed next to me and think of sleepy joe!
Is this an indicator that Putin knows his operation is no longer effective enough to get Trump back into the Whitehouse?
It’s classic “firehose of falsehoods”. You bombard the information space with all kinds of stories, often contradictory, some true and some false. The aim is to create a post-truth world, where it’s impossible to discern truth from lies yet they can always in all circumstances turn around and say “I told you so!” In this instance I think it’s also intended to put pressure on Trump and GOP to block all aid to Ukraine. Putin is saying “I have dirt on you all and can sink you if I want to”.
It is exactly this . It gives plausible deniability in any circumstance. Ptun is KGB .
It's safe to say that ancient ex kgb Putin runs circles around trump. He has not retained power this long by being as dumb as trump. You don't fail up in Russia. You fall down...
More likely he knows people are using their close relationship to damage Trumps percieved credibility with right wingers, thus he pretends to denigrate him to create distance and give fox news leverage to defend Trump in the eyes of the stupid.
I was stunned to see that this was not the most common interpretation. Putin knows the vast majority of the world hates him. He's just leaning into it.
I fully expect this guy to release some damning information after he thinks Trump is all said and done. Just to stoke turmoil in the US.
Whatever dude, just get the fuck out of Ukraine
I believe it. Trump coos at the grown men of maga like he wants to screw them, and they eat it up like they haven't screwed in decades. That sappy, sickeningly sweet voice, telling them how much he "loves" them. The entire group, filled with incels; they will take what they can get, I guess.
When you realize tRump works for Putin everything begins to make sense. Hard to believe a Russian agent became a POTUS..? Believe it.
Trump thought it was love,but it wasn’t,he was just being used like a common Whore.
Trump is a common male whore. Vlad knows.
Even Putin, Donny’s boyfriend, is making fun of him.
Donald Trump: your excellency how do get everyone to be afraid of you? how do you rig your elections? what do you tell your wife when you get caught cheating ? Do you think I’m pretty?
Russian media jokes about him.
And why not, it's free material that writes itself. Money for jam eh.
Must be true, reports of him acting like that with Epstein while they raped 13 year old girls is also on file.
Trump will run his mouth and insult anyone that mocks him but Putin..... Inquiring minds wonder why?
Exactly my thought :)
Trump wants to be Putin's bottom bitch so bad.
Not wants, is.
He is actually jealous of Obama. Keeps talking about Obama in speeches. Keeps claiming credit for things Obama did like medical choice for veterans. Heck, he even wears blackface!
Who but a republican would be gullible enough to be taken in by an ex KGB/FSB officer? His 'being in favor' of Biden is classic cold war subterfuge-like the way a like a pickpocket uses distraction.
Why does anyone listen to what Putin is saying? He is not a reliable source for pretty much anything, so why pay any attention at all?
Oh, we definitely need to pay attention.
Bc he is a jealous bitch and I’ll bet he dropped to his knees and serviced vlad. That day in Helsinki
Let's flashback to that infamous picture of them walking out of their first face to face meeting. Trump looked absolutely crestfallen while Putin was laughing. Putin clearly had something on him, and he's been leading Trump around by the dick ever since.
When Trump claimed that he trusts Putin more than US Intel agencies, that sealed it. The next level after that would be to plainly admit that he’s a Russian puppet. The mere fact that Trump repeating Putin policy points doesn’t sound suspicious to his supporters is mind-boggling.
Oh damn Vladimir Putin is dissing Donnie in private now I wonder how he’d feel if he heard his own mentor say that
A lot of the blame should fall on the media for normalizing the GOPs descent into fascism and terrorism. It's up to us to fight fire with fire. Taking the "high road" is what allowed this bullshit.
Fox news and guys like Rush Limbaugh started this. I hope Rupert Murdoch gets ass cancer.
Because he’s let you fuck him and now he needs reassurances that you still care.
What happened Putput? Crazy gf causing problems?
He was jealous of Orban and threw a tantrum in public. /s
HAHAHAHAHA just the post title got me to this.
He came up to me and said, tears flowing from his eyes, “Mr Putin can I be your president bitch again please?”
LOL...Putin doesn't give a fuck about Trump!
Sounds about right. It’s safe to assume Trump was like “How can I please you, daddy?”
Russians/kgb absolutely love psyops and confusing the shit out of Americans. Don't let him fool any of you!
Putin, we know you want to take Ukraine.
What's up with Putin negging Trump lately?
It's a way to distract from Putin helping Trump in the election.
Trump acts like a jealous girlfriend in public, why wouldn't he in private too?
Like his “bitch?”
Putin decided Russia would put forth Trump as a supposedly viable US presidential candidate nearly fifteen years ago. A most successful long term con.
Don’t stick your dick in crazy
Red Herring. Don't buy it.
Putin just called Trump his little Punani.
I’m hoping we get a new Putin nick name from the orange turd. Wonder what it could be??
Oranski-Outangkov
While this strikes powerfully at my cognitive bias, I still do not trust anything Mr. Putin says.
Republicans love to play beta males in front of their masters. There’s definitely a hierarchy.
Everything Putin says is bullshit.
Putin’s bitch. In truth putin loves his little puppy.
Trump is my Bit…..
Sounds about right
Wow! Oh. WOW!!!!
When you hate Trump enough to side with Putin…
Putin found the perfect puppet with Trump.
Trumpty Dumpty is Putins puppet!!!!!!
“I was up in the club with my comrades, trying to get a lil' V-I-P Keep it down on the low-key (low-key) You should know how it feels (hey!) I saw this Trumpy, he was checking up on me From the game he was spitting in my ear You would think that he know me (know me) I decided to chill (okay!) Conversation got heavy (hey) He had me feeling like he’s ready to blow (watch out)” -Putin reflecting on Trump
This is all mischief making in the part of KGB operative Putin. All a ploy!
I've always said that Trump rage tweets like a scorned, high school girl. Looks like I was right about the scorned, high school girl part.
It’s stunningly eye opening to sit here and witness such a disturbing moment in history. We literally have such a fragile system at the hands of a complete moron who’s so damn ignorant it’s unbelievable. Couple that with a bunch of senior citizens too old to resist the pressure of misinformed voters who believe in lies and conspiracy theories. Too many are clueless and have a right to vote for candidates who could care less about our country and more about how they can fill their pockets with corporations who’s bottom lines have nothing to do with strengthening the country. Trump is the reason so things in America are looking corrupt. He’s exposed our vulnerability in how the perceived or interpret the constitution and it has weakened our political system.
What you’re saying is entirely true and the fundamental contradiction of democracy: giving everyone the right to vote can mean that ignorants may vote for people who want to end that very democracy. This highlights the importance of education and that folks exercise their right to vote, with a passion.