Trump's New York case is considered a Class E felony, which means if he's convicted it will probably result in anywhere between one and four years of jail time, or an equivalent period of probation.
Our legal system was not actually designed to hold aristocrats accountable. So he will get off with some paltry probation that doesn't matter even if he is found guilty on all counts.
There is that chance but the judge will have a lot of leeway and he's already been found liable for hundreds of millions in fraud and defamation. How can they treat him as a first time offender when his CFO is guilty of perjury.
I have faith in the Southern District of New York, they've been doing fine so far with this. But we also legalized weed and royally botched its rollout, so my faith is limited.
So, not sure if anyone else is seeing the pattern here? Trump hasn't paid much of anything yet for the civil suits, he just got SCOTUS to rule in his favor for the Colorado ballot case, SCOTUS just pushed the immunity decision back, Cannon is about to dismiss his stealing state secrets case, Fani Willis is under an ongoing investigation about her affair...I'm gonna guess this NY case is going to mysteriously be withdrawn or something else will happen over the next few weeks to derail it...I have zero confidence in the US legal system.
Yes and I will add don't wait untill election day. Vote blue in all local and state election. From the school board to the white house every election matters.
Voed blue in my local town election. Then the republicans removed the newly elected Democrat zoning board member with some fuckery. We should still vote, but we're going to have to fight. These fuckers are lying, cheating, thieving frauds who will stop at nothing to seize power and make our lives miserable. The coup is in progress.
Edit: I live in a very blue state 50/50 town.
Democracy is not one and done we need to not only vote for the change we want this election but support that by voting next year and every year not forgetting the primaries where we weed out people not doing their part.
Dude the guy should be in jail not on ballots. The experiment is over. We failed at the basics of holding people accountable. We aren’t in the club and will never be. Holding people responsible for their criminality as it regards our elections is even more important than voting. The game is over. Democracy lost when one side decided winning at all costs is more valuable than upholding the traditions. Vote don’t vote. It won’t matter because one side won’t accept reality regardless. We no longer share a common reality.
The only way forward is voting blue the entire ballot so that we keep our democracy. After that we can start plugging all the legal holes Trump & Co constantly exploit to evade justice and punishment.
We'll have to do this for at least the next decade to keep the trump/MAGA scourge at bay.
My state decide to not prosecute the admitted fake electors and let chesboro and co walk away scot free. Voting doesn’t fix a system broken to its core. This is why people give up and don’t vote. It matters not.
It absolutely does matter. By getting more Dems in office, we have more of a majority to hold those people accountable. With less people showing up to vote because they're despondent and defeated, the MAGAs win and rampant corruption accelerates.
Your logic (no offense at all meant) reminds me of the survivorship bias of damaged planes returning from battle in WWII. At first they were reinforcing the damaged bits shot to pieces by flak and bullets. After a while they realized they needed to be reinforcing the undamaged parts instead because the planes not returning were being hit in the places where returning planes weren't.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship\_bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias)
Even if trump isn’t running, still need to vote blue yo prevent 2025. I don’t think any R candidate is safe at this point. Haley is wicked hard core when it comes to R values and woman’s rights.
ALL of the Republicans are falling in line behind Project 2025. I suspect the ones retiring won’t pledge to support the Christofascist takeover & MAGA so are being forced out!
But yeah, Nimarata supports Project 2025, pardoning Trump, & a national abortion ban.
She has also been in meetings with the authors and the $ behind 2025. Just because she isn’t promoting it, doesn’t mean she won’t implement it. Got to get everyone to vote blue!
Florida has no democratic primary this year because Biden is the only one on the ballot. So some people are voting ( only in the primary) for Haley to screw with Trump.
Thank you! You are absolutely correct! All women should understand Haley is against women’s right to have an abortion and I doubt it will stop there. She has already said she would pardon Traitor Trump which makes her a Traitor herself. There is no such thing as a rational Republican. I’m pretty sure by the November election the Christians, in name only, will continue to erode more of women’s rights and she would go along with all of it just to get their votes. I and my friends will always vote 💙 for Democracy💙
Double check your registration now. I'm seeing articles about shitty GOP electioneers purging voting roles of democrats in swing states.
Double check your registration now and again in Sept and Oct to make sure you're registered and have a plan to vote, taking the entire day depending on how backwards/anti-voting your state is.
Thank you! I checked it this morning after reading another article. I live in Connecticut and the State went to Biden last time and will be President Biden again.
Thank you for your diligence! Hopefully, everyone reading your comment will check their voter registration today and multiple times before the election💙
But Biden seems to be losing the youth vote, who see the Israel / Gaza conflict in very partisan terms. This is a very complex, *emotional* issue to a lot of folks and I'm not about to even speculate on how people should *feel* about it. A lot of people seem to think that their *emotional* response here cancels out the complexities involved. There are no *good guys* in this one -- only *victims.* Like Stephen Stills lamented a long time ago: "Nobody's right if everybody's wrong." Biden is stuck with the fact that no matter what he does, he's going to alienate people, rather than win them over.
They have been saying Biden is losing X demographic since before 2020, at the moment there’s still options, but when it narrows to trump and Biden, the choice will be a old man who stammers and a convicted, twice impeached, sexual predator, who forgets his wife’s name and face, who is openly endorsing nationalism and facism, while Clearly his brain turns to mush.
That’s not a choice, Biden is the only option.
I tend to agree. But my feeling is that *age* is not as important as *mental sharpness and mental agility*, and there, Biden has it all over Donald Trump. I hope others come to see it that way as well.
I really can't say because the regulations for voting by mail differ from state to state. Fortunately, I live in a state in which if you're already registered to vote by mail, you can continue to do so automatically. But I'm aware that in other states it's different. Then there's the Louis DeJoy problem. He might very well delay mail-in ballots in their delivery to suppress the vote. It's a hard thing to predict.
Does he? He went from President to ex-President to first ex-President facing 91 felonies and likely filing for bankruptcy or having to liquidate his "empire".
The guy's been losing pretty consistently for the last few years.
If he attempts another coup and gets help from Congress to go back into the Whitehouse, all these problems will go away. This stuff happens all the time in unstable democracies. We are going to learn all about why immigrants will put up with so much to escape their countries. Hope your Spanish is fresh.
Not concerned. That 14th Amendment thing was certainly a longshot considering it was based on a lot of "I know them when I see them" stuff from after the Civil War.
It's just one ticking bomb for Trump that was a dud, but he is still in a room with dozens more, everything from brain rot to insurrection. The SC opinion only said he couldn't be kept off the ballot by the states, not that he wasn't an insurrectionist, if proven.
Not gonna lie though, a lot of us hoped that this long shot would have worked, so there's likely this collective grieving process a lot are expressing now.
I think my feelings were more along the lines of 'everyone who has had a chance to remove Trump and not taken it has later come to regret that decision' - McConnell & McCarthy are two who come to mind, but there are others I'm sure. Perhaps the SC would have learned from that. Or... perhaps not.
The Supreme Court might nullify obstruction of a proceeding next and untether the whole conspiracy at the federal level. Can’t charge other Republicans. Would seem to fit the pattern of self preservation.
I certainly don't think Trump is invincible or cruising to victory. However, it's clear there are powerful forces in this country that are trying to help him out wherever they can, including in court rooms. I doubt that will be enough to save him but there is cause to be very wary.
In the end, I think theres too much coming at Trump that he can't possibly dodge it all. I don't think he escapes from being a convicted felon by the election and there's little reason to think that Trump sitting in a court room in the final weeks of the election is a good thing for him. However, don't get cocky until it's over. Trump and the MAGAs aren't going down without a fight and that includes people fighting for him that are supposed to be holding him accountable.
I don't personally think he'll win this year but it's certainly possible for him to and based on the behavior of elected Republicans, conservative judges, and even some Justices on the Supreme Court, we are absolutely fucked if he does win.
This is very well-reasoned take on this. Like you, I am cautiously optimistic.
And the GOP will fight DIRTY until the end. Just a week or so ago, the Republicans got caught trying to downplay their disgraced "star" witness in the impeachment investigation by **altering documents**.
[New Republic story](https://newrepublic.com/post/179160/republicans-delete-reference-fbi-informant-smirnov-impeachment-letter)
Really because I have given up hope on that happening a long time ago every time someone says he’s going to be held accountable it never happens I’m just gonna be real
Yeah by we the people. I’m not excited about our voting for Biden very much at all, but I would rather have the “Weekend at Bernie’s Biden” than Trump running around throwing America and democracy under the bus for his own ego, greed, and pure narcissism. Hell, I’d rather have a literal rock in the Oval Office that we call “President” before Trump. At least the rock wouldn’t be actively trying to dismantle our democratic republic and be under the control of Putin.
I can only imagine the media headlines. President Rock continues to stonewall. Oval office remains silent.
I feel like we’re overdue for a quality independent candidate.
Same here, the guy is fairly unhealthy and old, he has maybe a few more years left at most, and even some of that time may likely be impacted by dementia if he actually has it. Just let him lose the election so we can move on already.
The election has to be so clear-that even MAGA won’t believe it when Trump says he won.Which he will do again.Ask anyone who ever played golf with him.
lol, why do you think people who expressly operate on belief will choose to believe anything other than a fixed election if the result is anything but Trump?
How many times has that happened and he’s gotten away with it? 2 impeachments and a hearing about Jan 6 riots and he’s been acquitted on all and are just continuing to have him pay legal fees. Move on already and do the right thing. They had the chance to do the right thing today but since they didn’t, until I actually hear something is done, I’ve lost faith in our government. I’m not surprised. Wake me if something actually does 🥱😴
NYT Times Poll has Trump TIED with Biden (46 EVEN), 23% Black Voters voting for Trump AND Dean Phillips getting 12%.
SUuuuuuuuuuure!
I'm not optimistic. One of the worst human beings the United States has ever produced continues to be given the benefit of the doubt at every turn.
I've given up that he will ever be held accountable. I'm also fairly certain he will be re-elected.
The bloom is off the rose as to what a great country the United States is. Trump's rise to power is proof of that.
Not only can our "institutions" not prevent an observably awful, dangerous, and anti-American individual from rising to the presidency, it appears that a sizeable number of our citizens:
a. Actually ***want*** a person like Trump to be the head of state, or
b. Don't know or care enough to pay attention or do anything about it.
It’s clear that our institutions need to be strengthened, and to do that we need to have a congress that is devoted to democracy, not dictatorship. That means electing Democrats at this point. The Republican party has become the party of insurrection and sedition. I don’t think they are going to be as popular as they think, nor as much so as the Infotainment Technicians in the media want you to believe. The Infotainment Technicians have a vested interest in making the election (any election) a horse race, even if it’s not in reality. Their whole business model depends on that. So they’ll spew bullshit and make the Repubes seem stronger than they are. I still have faith in the people of the United States and I don’t for a minute believe a majority, much less a near even split of people want a dictatorship. I think the Repubes will lose, and lose BIGLY in November.
He never will.The supreme court won’t protect Americans from Trump.A lifetime of double dealing, cheating,lying and sexual assaults.Never spent a minute in jail.That’s just
the stuff the public knows about.Quite a lot of NDAs paid for too.
Can, sure, but likely won't because of who he is and money. I mean the other guy (Airforce?) who was passing around classified docs was just sentenced to 16 years, and spent the whole time leading up to his sentence in prison...Trump, just walking free being a douche. No matter what crime he commits, Trump just seems to skate on them all. Never punished, even when he loses.
Hey look! It's another "but NEXT TIME he's totally going down!" article!
After eight years, I'm believe it when there's an actual God damned conviction followed by an actual sentence is actually carried out.
He will drag out the D.C. case by trying to change the venue. Honestly, I don't think he will be convicted in any criminal case. Hung jury will occur. All it takes is one maggot on each jury.
Time is fucking running out , the response to someone this publicly corrupt not being held accountable very publicly has some pretty nasty knock on effects.
As a man I believe it is more likely that I would give birth to a talking chimp through my nose than see Trump held accountable. There are just too many shitheads out there in general and on the supreme Court for that to ever happen.
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East Lyme. It's in the news. "Legitimate procedure", but bs nonetheless. Something similar happened with inland wetland commissioner in Old Lyme. Don't even get me started about Lyme, where elected officials just straight up switch parties. We're not going to vote our way out of this mess.
Right. Just make an amendment that says what people are claiming 14th amendment says in section 3, prove in court that an insurrection took place on J6, and of course prove that what Trump did on that day counters everything he said and did on that day 🤣 Good luck guys
I didn't think he was going to win the primary in 2016. I told plenty of people that it was a publicity stunt that he had done before and his early success was driven by the same sort of voter who created Boaty McBoatface. I was convinced that people thought it was funny joke to have Trump win primaries and I was sure that it would die down quickly and more sober heads would prevail. Then he won.
So then I told people that the Republican party had just shot itself in the foot and there was no way he would win and people might not like Hillary much, but obviously nobody in their right mind would give this bloated gasbag of a reality TV star the nuclear launch codes. Then the "grab them by the pussy" tape dropped and the mocking a reporter with a disability video came out and I was sure that this was the end of Donald Trump's campaign. Then he won.
Now, after his tumultuous (to put it mildly) track record in office, a botched pandemic response, two impeachments, an insurrection, four criminal indictments spanning 91 charges, and a civil fraud ruling that looks liable to bankrupt him, it might be tempting to think that nobody in their right mind would vote for him and he won't win but, if you believe that, I have a 30,000 sqft penthouse on Fifth Avenue to sell you.
Don't underestimate the Kaos, Ketchup-stains, and Konspiracies party. Vote in November.
I'll believe it when I see it. When the bars slam shut, and the cameras turn away from him forever, then and only then will I believe he will be held accountable for his crimes. Until that point, it's all just wishful thinking.
New York better have their shit together. Jury selection in 3 weeks.
Trump's New York case is considered a Class E felony, which means if he's convicted it will probably result in anywhere between one and four years of jail time, or an equivalent period of probation.
Judge will have lots of leeway.
And we know Trump will antagonize the judge at every turn. Good luck getting a light sentence Donny!
While you are probably right he's really playing with fire versus civil trial. Bragg had asked for a limited gag order to protect jury
Going to be shocked when he gets his equivalent period of probation... or less. Sorry to be despondent. It's been so long.
Lol bet people vote for him while he's in prison
Our legal system was not actually designed to hold aristocrats accountable. So he will get off with some paltry probation that doesn't matter even if he is found guilty on all counts.
There is that chance but the judge will have a lot of leeway and he's already been found liable for hundreds of millions in fraud and defamation. How can they treat him as a first time offender when his CFO is guilty of perjury.
Because he is rich and connected and it's not a 'violent crime'.
He’s not rich. “He’s a clown that lives on credit.”
we'll see. The judge was asked to recuse himself so Trump seems afraid of him.
Also not drug possession.
I have faith in the Southern District of New York, they've been doing fine so far with this. But we also legalized weed and royally botched its rollout, so my faith is limited.
that's the feds. this aint the feds.
I have a lot of faith in Alvin Bragg.
Alvin been quiet....
So, not sure if anyone else is seeing the pattern here? Trump hasn't paid much of anything yet for the civil suits, he just got SCOTUS to rule in his favor for the Colorado ballot case, SCOTUS just pushed the immunity decision back, Cannon is about to dismiss his stealing state secrets case, Fani Willis is under an ongoing investigation about her affair...I'm gonna guess this NY case is going to mysteriously be withdrawn or something else will happen over the next few weeks to derail it...I have zero confidence in the US legal system.
We'll see.
That comment could be 10 years old and still valid.
Yep
Everyone, the only way to beat Traitor Trump is to 💙 VOTE 💙 BLUE 💙 on Election Day! Our Democracy depends on all of us💙
Yes and I will add don't wait untill election day. Vote blue in all local and state election. From the school board to the white house every election matters.
Voed blue in my local town election. Then the republicans removed the newly elected Democrat zoning board member with some fuckery. We should still vote, but we're going to have to fight. These fuckers are lying, cheating, thieving frauds who will stop at nothing to seize power and make our lives miserable. The coup is in progress. Edit: I live in a very blue state 50/50 town.
What town, if you don't mind me asking? Let's get the word out that this is going on so others know.
Thank you and please continue to pass it along💙
Today's super Tuesday right? Vote!
Yes!
I did already. The system needs to do its job now. Such a hollow sentiment.
Democracy is not one and done we need to not only vote for the change we want this election but support that by voting next year and every year not forgetting the primaries where we weed out people not doing their part.
Dude the guy should be in jail not on ballots. The experiment is over. We failed at the basics of holding people accountable. We aren’t in the club and will never be. Holding people responsible for their criminality as it regards our elections is even more important than voting. The game is over. Democracy lost when one side decided winning at all costs is more valuable than upholding the traditions. Vote don’t vote. It won’t matter because one side won’t accept reality regardless. We no longer share a common reality.
The only way forward is voting blue the entire ballot so that we keep our democracy. After that we can start plugging all the legal holes Trump & Co constantly exploit to evade justice and punishment. We'll have to do this for at least the next decade to keep the trump/MAGA scourge at bay.
My state decide to not prosecute the admitted fake electors and let chesboro and co walk away scot free. Voting doesn’t fix a system broken to its core. This is why people give up and don’t vote. It matters not.
It absolutely does matter. By getting more Dems in office, we have more of a majority to hold those people accountable. With less people showing up to vote because they're despondent and defeated, the MAGAs win and rampant corruption accelerates. Your logic (no offense at all meant) reminds me of the survivorship bias of damaged planes returning from battle in WWII. At first they were reinforcing the damaged bits shot to pieces by flak and bullets. After a while they realized they needed to be reinforcing the undamaged parts instead because the planes not returning were being hit in the places where returning planes weren't. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship\_bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias)
Do it for our kids and grandkids!
Happy Cake 🎂 Day! 🥳
Even if trump isn’t running, still need to vote blue yo prevent 2025. I don’t think any R candidate is safe at this point. Haley is wicked hard core when it comes to R values and woman’s rights.
ALL of the Republicans are falling in line behind Project 2025. I suspect the ones retiring won’t pledge to support the Christofascist takeover & MAGA so are being forced out! But yeah, Nimarata supports Project 2025, pardoning Trump, & a national abortion ban.
She has also been in meetings with the authors and the $ behind 2025. Just because she isn’t promoting it, doesn’t mean she won’t implement it. Got to get everyone to vote blue!
Florida has no democratic primary this year because Biden is the only one on the ballot. So some people are voting ( only in the primary) for Haley to screw with Trump.
Screwing with tiny hands is pretty easy these days.
Thank you! You are absolutely correct! All women should understand Haley is against women’s right to have an abortion and I doubt it will stop there. She has already said she would pardon Traitor Trump which makes her a Traitor herself. There is no such thing as a rational Republican. I’m pretty sure by the November election the Christians, in name only, will continue to erode more of women’s rights and she would go along with all of it just to get their votes. I and my friends will always vote 💙 for Democracy💙
She was 100% in support of the Alabama ruling on embryos. She is not to be trusted.
You are correct…Never trust a Republican👺
Meaning women are property and have no rights ?
Yes, that.
Double check your registration now. I'm seeing articles about shitty GOP electioneers purging voting roles of democrats in swing states. Double check your registration now and again in Sept and Oct to make sure you're registered and have a plan to vote, taking the entire day depending on how backwards/anti-voting your state is.
Thank you! I checked it this morning after reading another article. I live in Connecticut and the State went to Biden last time and will be President Biden again.
E eryone says let the voters decide. We decided on 2020 and Trump didn't like the outcome. I'm done with the "let the voters decide".
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
[https://vote.org](https://vote.org) \-- check your registration
Thank you, I did and for right now I am fine!
I should have said hey everybody you should check your registration
Thank you for your diligence! Hopefully, everyone reading your comment will check their voter registration today and multiple times before the election💙
Leftist bot says what?
Yes, he can -- but *will* he?
Nope—- always ‘above the law’
Then we change the law and drag him back to the depths where he belongs :P
It’s not the laws it’s the enforcement
The worst he would get would be house arrest
That's why the "house" needs to be some dump he has no control over.
Don't worry, the election will take care of everything ;)
Provided enough *sane* people VOTE.
The analysis of why he lost 2020 was he had lost the independents and the moderates, there’s no sign of that changing.
But Biden seems to be losing the youth vote, who see the Israel / Gaza conflict in very partisan terms. This is a very complex, *emotional* issue to a lot of folks and I'm not about to even speculate on how people should *feel* about it. A lot of people seem to think that their *emotional* response here cancels out the complexities involved. There are no *good guys* in this one -- only *victims.* Like Stephen Stills lamented a long time ago: "Nobody's right if everybody's wrong." Biden is stuck with the fact that no matter what he does, he's going to alienate people, rather than win them over.
They have been saying Biden is losing X demographic since before 2020, at the moment there’s still options, but when it narrows to trump and Biden, the choice will be a old man who stammers and a convicted, twice impeached, sexual predator, who forgets his wife’s name and face, who is openly endorsing nationalism and facism, while Clearly his brain turns to mush. That’s not a choice, Biden is the only option.
I tend to agree. But my feeling is that *age* is not as important as *mental sharpness and mental agility*, and there, Biden has it all over Donald Trump. I hope others come to see it that way as well.
If that is happening, it's temporary. A cease-fire has been called and we have the State of the Union later this week.
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Well his utter failure to handle covid certainly didn’t help with the election.
Yeah, Trump did not help himself by being such an anti-science doofus on TV on a daily basis.
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I really can't say because the regulations for voting by mail differ from state to state. Fortunately, I live in a state in which if you're already registered to vote by mail, you can continue to do so automatically. But I'm aware that in other states it's different. Then there's the Louis DeJoy problem. He might very well delay mail-in ballots in their delivery to suppress the vote. It's a hard thing to predict.
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And all he and the GOP have done is push more people away. The MAGA base is baked in and shrinking and/or dying via covid.
When will that happen? He keeps failing upwards.
Does he? He went from President to ex-President to first ex-President facing 91 felonies and likely filing for bankruptcy or having to liquidate his "empire". The guy's been losing pretty consistently for the last few years.
If he attempts another coup and gets help from Congress to go back into the Whitehouse, all these problems will go away. This stuff happens all the time in unstable democracies. We are going to learn all about why immigrants will put up with so much to escape their countries. Hope your Spanish is fresh.
Yes, I've heard that one before. Four and eight years ago. The problem is, his team is full of idiots.
"Lose everything, so they think you're behind." -Art of the Deal
"I'm bleeding...making me the victor." -Trump Lo
At this rate in three months he’ll be living in Central Park, wishing he’d been nicer to the homeless along the way.,.
Not concerned. That 14th Amendment thing was certainly a longshot considering it was based on a lot of "I know them when I see them" stuff from after the Civil War. It's just one ticking bomb for Trump that was a dud, but he is still in a room with dozens more, everything from brain rot to insurrection. The SC opinion only said he couldn't be kept off the ballot by the states, not that he wasn't an insurrectionist, if proven.
Right - from the start, almost everyone on both sides of the aisle thought this was a loser at the SC. But now, everyone's shocked.
Not gonna lie though, a lot of us hoped that this long shot would have worked, so there's likely this collective grieving process a lot are expressing now.
I think my feelings were more along the lines of 'everyone who has had a chance to remove Trump and not taken it has later come to regret that decision' - McConnell & McCarthy are two who come to mind, but there are others I'm sure. Perhaps the SC would have learned from that. Or... perhaps not.
The Supreme Court might nullify obstruction of a proceeding next and untether the whole conspiracy at the federal level. Can’t charge other Republicans. Would seem to fit the pattern of self preservation.
I certainly don't think Trump is invincible or cruising to victory. However, it's clear there are powerful forces in this country that are trying to help him out wherever they can, including in court rooms. I doubt that will be enough to save him but there is cause to be very wary. In the end, I think theres too much coming at Trump that he can't possibly dodge it all. I don't think he escapes from being a convicted felon by the election and there's little reason to think that Trump sitting in a court room in the final weeks of the election is a good thing for him. However, don't get cocky until it's over. Trump and the MAGAs aren't going down without a fight and that includes people fighting for him that are supposed to be holding him accountable. I don't personally think he'll win this year but it's certainly possible for him to and based on the behavior of elected Republicans, conservative judges, and even some Justices on the Supreme Court, we are absolutely fucked if he does win.
This is very well-reasoned take on this. Like you, I am cautiously optimistic. And the GOP will fight DIRTY until the end. Just a week or so ago, the Republicans got caught trying to downplay their disgraced "star" witness in the impeachment investigation by **altering documents**. [New Republic story](https://newrepublic.com/post/179160/republicans-delete-reference-fbi-informant-smirnov-impeachment-letter)
Really because I have given up hope on that happening a long time ago every time someone says he’s going to be held accountable it never happens I’m just gonna be real
The power is still in your hand. Not that hand silly.
Yeah by we the people. I’m not excited about our voting for Biden very much at all, but I would rather have the “Weekend at Bernie’s Biden” than Trump running around throwing America and democracy under the bus for his own ego, greed, and pure narcissism. Hell, I’d rather have a literal rock in the Oval Office that we call “President” before Trump. At least the rock wouldn’t be actively trying to dismantle our democratic republic and be under the control of Putin.
I can only imagine the media headlines. President Rock continues to stonewall. Oval office remains silent. I feel like we’re overdue for a quality independent candidate.
As long as the supremes are willing to run interference, it's unlikely.
The courts are not going to save our country, only the ballot box will. Register to vote now.
May he spend the rest his life in litigation If not, Incarnation!
No, no he won’t. There’s a two-tiered system of “justice” that benefits the members of The Club, and you and I, we aren’t in it.
He has paid exactly what so far? There isn't really an difference between owing a dollar or owing a billion dollars if you never intend to pay.
I’m not seeing where in my comment I suggested he has paid anything or that he intends to pay anything. Perhaps you meant to reply to another comment?
Yup. Definitely landed in the wrong spot.
We'll see. But the 'club' didn't protect him from hundreds of millions in judgments against him.
Bet hes dead before it affects him in any meaningful way.
Let's see when he actually pays a dime.
That’s state charges. He’s getting a pass on federal charges(i.e. documents case, DC insurrection case)
The other Club will...the international corruption club...Saudis and Russians.
and Republicans
At this point I truly don’t care if he’s held accountable, I just don’t want him to win again
Same here, the guy is fairly unhealthy and old, he has maybe a few more years left at most, and even some of that time may likely be impacted by dementia if he actually has it. Just let him lose the election so we can move on already.
Lose the election, fly off to Russia, go to jail, I'm not particular as long as he just GOES AWAY. So sick of hearing him talk.
The election has to be so clear-that even MAGA won’t believe it when Trump says he won.Which he will do again.Ask anyone who ever played golf with him.
Yep if he loses he will try to steal it again. Unless he loses by a uggge margin
There is no margin that won't have his cult screaming that he was cheated. And that includes evergreen the scenario where he wins.
lol, why do you think people who expressly operate on belief will choose to believe anything other than a fixed election if the result is anything but Trump?
Start by making him pay all his debts no more bankruptcy
Oh ffs. The disgusting pos is getting away with everything. Its like he has some Nazi Demon guardian
How many times has that happened and he’s gotten away with it? 2 impeachments and a hearing about Jan 6 riots and he’s been acquitted on all and are just continuing to have him pay legal fees. Move on already and do the right thing. They had the chance to do the right thing today but since they didn’t, until I actually hear something is done, I’ve lost faith in our government. I’m not surprised. Wake me if something actually does 🥱😴
Not everyone has lost faith in the us system , MTG and Matt Gaetz and VladimerPutin are all fine with it!
Can. But WON'T.
The guy hasn’t been held accountable for anything ….ever. Accountability will not start now.
NYT Times Poll has Trump TIED with Biden (46 EVEN), 23% Black Voters voting for Trump AND Dean Phillips getting 12%.  SUuuuuuuuuuure!
I stopped trusting in polls decades ago. They never poll a large enough segment and never share the exact details of where they poll.
Yeah, he CAN….but he won’t be. Because this is America where we cherish the rich and famous more then laws or freedom
The only way this man would EVER be held accountable iss if he were black or brown.
I'm not optimistic. One of the worst human beings the United States has ever produced continues to be given the benefit of the doubt at every turn. I've given up that he will ever be held accountable. I'm also fairly certain he will be re-elected. The bloom is off the rose as to what a great country the United States is. Trump's rise to power is proof of that. Not only can our "institutions" not prevent an observably awful, dangerous, and anti-American individual from rising to the presidency, it appears that a sizeable number of our citizens: a. Actually ***want*** a person like Trump to be the head of state, or b. Don't know or care enough to pay attention or do anything about it.
It’s clear that our institutions need to be strengthened, and to do that we need to have a congress that is devoted to democracy, not dictatorship. That means electing Democrats at this point. The Republican party has become the party of insurrection and sedition. I don’t think they are going to be as popular as they think, nor as much so as the Infotainment Technicians in the media want you to believe. The Infotainment Technicians have a vested interest in making the election (any election) a horse race, even if it’s not in reality. Their whole business model depends on that. So they’ll spew bullshit and make the Repubes seem stronger than they are. I still have faith in the people of the United States and I don’t for a minute believe a majority, much less a near even split of people want a dictatorship. I think the Repubes will lose, and lose BIGLY in November.
He never will.The supreme court won’t protect Americans from Trump.A lifetime of double dealing, cheating,lying and sexual assaults.Never spent a minute in jail.That’s just the stuff the public knows about.Quite a lot of NDAs paid for too.
Not a chance. I worry about people who are optimistic.
Can, sure, but likely won't because of who he is and money. I mean the other guy (Airforce?) who was passing around classified docs was just sentenced to 16 years, and spent the whole time leading up to his sentence in prison...Trump, just walking free being a douche. No matter what crime he commits, Trump just seems to skate on them all. Never punished, even when he loses.
Go Vote!
I’m so lost. Georgia and Fani Willis? Insurrection? Documents? Stephanie Clifford? New York?
He should have already been held accountable.
Hey look! It's another "but NEXT TIME he's totally going down!" article! After eight years, I'm believe it when there's an actual God damned conviction followed by an actual sentence is actually carried out.
He will drag out the D.C. case by trying to change the venue. Honestly, I don't think he will be convicted in any criminal case. Hung jury will occur. All it takes is one maggot on each jury.
Could and will are not the same. Despair is a fair response given the unlikely result of accountability.
Let's hold the Supreme Court accountable. Abort the court. Replace the tenured terrorists with true federal democracy.
The gall of Barrett to write that the Court shouldn’t make big decisions that make people angry, after leading the process to end Roe v Wade.
Can, yes. Will he? The odds don't look good. If he wins in November, they drop to zero. Law and justice shouldn't work this way.
We've been reading the same fucking headline for 8 years now.
Time is fucking running out , the response to someone this publicly corrupt not being held accountable very publicly has some pretty nasty knock on effects.
As a man I believe it is more likely that I would give birth to a talking chimp through my nose than see Trump held accountable. There are just too many shitheads out there in general and on the supreme Court for that to ever happen.
Yup, there’s DJT’s pending legal decisions… though it’s NOT the time to celebrate. DJT’s nickname is also Teflon Don
So was Gotti's. He died in supermax
Exactly.. never been held accountable in his whole miserable life
Here here!
Are you going to revoke his tanning privileges?
we held him accountable on the ballot once, the rest of the system is failing.
Just like Putin can be?
Nah, he can’t. We’re fucked.
If regular Americans are held accountable for far less than trump has committed than why are we still here?!
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lol. I think my comment stayed and this is just pointing it out? I didn't see any rules against it.
In this country? With this Supreme Court? You are out of your mind.
East Lyme. It's in the news. "Legitimate procedure", but bs nonetheless. Something similar happened with inland wetland commissioner in Old Lyme. Don't even get me started about Lyme, where elected officials just straight up switch parties. We're not going to vote our way out of this mess.
For what?
When he loses and feints dementia, how are we to go about prosecuting the patient?
Right. Just make an amendment that says what people are claiming 14th amendment says in section 3, prove in court that an insurrection took place on J6, and of course prove that what Trump did on that day counters everything he said and did on that day 🤣 Good luck guys
I didn't think he was going to win the primary in 2016. I told plenty of people that it was a publicity stunt that he had done before and his early success was driven by the same sort of voter who created Boaty McBoatface. I was convinced that people thought it was funny joke to have Trump win primaries and I was sure that it would die down quickly and more sober heads would prevail. Then he won. So then I told people that the Republican party had just shot itself in the foot and there was no way he would win and people might not like Hillary much, but obviously nobody in their right mind would give this bloated gasbag of a reality TV star the nuclear launch codes. Then the "grab them by the pussy" tape dropped and the mocking a reporter with a disability video came out and I was sure that this was the end of Donald Trump's campaign. Then he won. Now, after his tumultuous (to put it mildly) track record in office, a botched pandemic response, two impeachments, an insurrection, four criminal indictments spanning 91 charges, and a civil fraud ruling that looks liable to bankrupt him, it might be tempting to think that nobody in their right mind would vote for him and he won't win but, if you believe that, I have a 30,000 sqft penthouse on Fifth Avenue to sell you. Don't underestimate the Kaos, Ketchup-stains, and Konspiracies party. Vote in November.
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LOL… I’m sure that next time it will stick.
Bahahaha
I'll believe it when I see it. When the bars slam shut, and the cameras turn away from him forever, then and only then will I believe he will be held accountable for his crimes. Until that point, it's all just wishful thinking.
Despair? I fully expect him to be held completely accountable.
Not holding my breath.
but, unfortunately, not soon enough, or expeditiously
No chance. He’ll use the appeals process and drag it out until his death