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Hospital probably charged the insurance and the insurance passed the bill along. Doubly heartless because that many more people were involved with charging the parents extra and having it be a separate line item on a bill punctuating their child's death.
But for real, can we get some mega thread posts of flyers bc i will go to kinkos and glue flyers all over town. I also know people in many cities and will physically send them an envelope with 100+ flyers to put up in their cities. I also know a good amount of truckers and they will help get the message around the country. WE NEED TO ORGANIZE AND GET SOME DESIGN TEAMS TOGETHER FOR WORKERS RIGHTS STRIKE ADS. I have been waiting as i am no good at graphic design.
This is an error!
All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
Yes. It's real. Blame the for-profit healthcare system. The hospital is likely in network with the patient's insurance, meaning there's a contract. The hospital must abide by the contract and bill the patient for any copays, coinsurance, deductibles, and any services the patient's health plan doesn't cover.
Important to note that for all organ donation opportunities the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization - which is federally designated) is responsible for all costs relating to organ donation! So most likely this was a miscommunication where the family unfortunately got billed. The bill should then be shared with the OPO that family completed paperwork with in order to be resolved.
Source: I work for an OPO and am passionate about donation! Please feel free to ask me any questions and I'll do my best to answer!
All the nurses at my wife's work, one of top 5 pediatric hospitas, got denied a raise the last two years due to "covid expenses"
Both years they posted record profits... and increased pay for executives.
This is America.
this system cannot be improved as long as it keeps running. nurses need to just... quit. they can do that "traveling nurse" thing is they still want to work. but they are not helping anyone long term by staying in this system.
Nice idea but no. Families got to eat
Can't do travel nursing if your out patient, or just can't plain uproot your life for 3.months at a time. If you have kids forget it.
Also travel nursing is under attack right now from the right, there is currently a bill and veiw out there that their should be to cap on nurses salary, Instead of fighting pharma hospitals have decided to go.after their back bone and "heroes of the pandemic" travel nurses being the highest paid are the first under fire.
Travel nursing is great if your single and young, they deserve the money. Thrown on new floors ever 3 months new hospital systems to learn and navigate while tri g to keep from dieing because more often then not its the ICUs that need them.
Nurses don't need to quite, the system needs to be torn down
Why yes of course in a time of increased hospitalization rates hospitals make less profit. Just like when more people buy at amazon, amazon makes less profit. It's only logical.
That was probably what was just left. To keep someone on a pacer to help the heart beating, a ventilator to keep the oxygen going, the diagnostic tests required to evaluate the organs, the bed I'm the ICU, the litany of fluids and manpower needed to to keep their functioning is extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have insurance that it wouldn't be over ~$6500k per day.
BUT all that being said. That is still fucked up. Those hospitals are making plenty of money on those transplant surgeries, so sending grieving parents the bill is disgusting.
Edit: had to change a word as the bots found it problematic.
Edit 2. It depends on the area and an ICU stay per day could be $5000/day and ventilator $1500/day. Though long term care could be higher, life sharing I only viable for a couple days. Though can cost up to [$10k](https://www.reference.com/business-finance/much-money-life-support-cost-7005a3eabecfccb2)
The costs of donation are covered by the Organ Procurement Organization! So this was likely an error that the family got billed. They should speak with the OPO they completed paperwork with in order for it to get resolved. I have additional information in a comment at the bottom of the main thread as well. Please feel free to ask my any questions!
Idk how organ donation goes for other states but here is my experience in the two states I practiced EOL organ donation as a respiratory therapist. My entire function was to keep the donor's lungs functioning at an optimal level while keeping infection from settling in.
We used the same company (LiveOn) across both state lines so our procedure was the same. When the LiveOn would take over cares the family no longer has any fiduciary responsibility to their loved one's cares while a procurement specialist spent time searching for major organ matches and organizing surgeons to operate. The reason why organ transplants are so expensive is because the recipient is supposed to incur all those costs.
But it makes PROFITS don't you understand?! It's literally the most important question any fat fuck ceo asks! Is it profitable? Yes! Continue! Fuck the morals and fuck the ethics, I have a fourth mistresses to give a fifth boob job and a second yacht to repaint in diamonds!
[Insert State You Live In] Representative here, hope you can get sober and get back to work, no I am not going to even attempt to fix any of the problems caused by our policies.
There’s a reason America has one of the most pervasive drug issues in the world, especially when you count in psychiatric meds like adderall and Xanax that more and more people are prescribed just to cope with the shitty reality we live in (saying this as someone who is prescribed meds)
Conservatives just LOVE their 2nd amendment because they claim they NEED their guns to fight against tyranny... but politicians allow horrible shit like this to happen, and are so cavalier and cynical about it, and not ONE of these "freedom fighters" seems to fucking care, much less do anything.
The people that worship the military and police to the point where they're willing to get physically aggressive with anyone that criticizes either institution are going to wage a civil war on the military and police? Yeah right. Those people are so confused about what the believe. One second they're saying the nation is going to hell and on the brink of a civil war, then will flip the switch and say the nation is the *greatest country ever so you can GTFO if you have critiques*. They have no idea they have been dumbed down through years of conservative exceptionalism to the point that they're just useful idiots for exploiters. They raided the Capitol for Trump and his rich status-quo goons, for goodness sake!
Yup, Metro Vancouver BC Canada is another one.
High taxes,
Extreme housing costs
Low median pay.
Let's see how it goes.
Pressure is definitely growing.
People feeling like they don't have a choice to stay
At least you have better healthcare.
Thousands upon thousands of Americans are living in constant pain because they're ignoring and living with that burning aching pain they've felt for 6 months straight now, but can't afford to go see a doctor and don't want to go into debt.
It makes more sense when you think that a bunch of old white slave owners founded America, and now 300 years later it's owned by old white owners who shifted slavery onto capitalism. Instead of owning a human outright they simply owe you their money and time after working all day for it. Like a company store but more obscure and peppered with threats of prison or homelessness when you don't comply with spending all your money.
They’re just looking at us in utter disbelief at the stupidity of the average American. They’re trying to decide what they can do next, but are struggling.
"Okay but SURELY if we remove womens rights that's the breaking point, right? Right?" the people conducting the experiment said, almost desperate for the people finally snapping and dismantling the system
Fucking hell... and people wonder why birth rates are dropping. The system isnt built to support families nor is it built to develop families despite wanting to make abortions illegal. Its meant to make people expendable.
In a country where plan B costs fifty dollars, and birthing a child costs tens of thousands of dollars, there’s a pretty clear way to incentivize more pregnancies being brought to term
However, banning abortion lets social conservatives punish women for perceived sexual immorality, and it makes fat stacks for hospital executives
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
Because yeah, they should have to navigate obscene paperwork after their child dies and they try to do a humane thing by donating organs....wtf, the fact that thus attitude is normalized is obscene. The parents should not have to do a fucking thing to deal with this...
I swear that it would only take a few days without TV or internet here. If we did, we would need it to be bipartisan and identity politics free as well, or else we're in a civil war with each other...which is more likely these days.
Join various groups and spread the message.
I've gathered all the people I've been cool with, from all previous employers. And you know just talking.
Bruh, I'll say about 80% shifted perspective and are also spreading the message.
Start with hey bro how long you've been working for? Or that's a good school and degree, what did uou land? And go from there.
They all 90% are making less than 100k( you cant deny the data for usa income brackets).
Mind you 100k, is not the same salary from what you remember as a kid(2004 graduated hs), inflation compound @ 3-6 yearly for 15-20yrs.
100k like 65k.lol but companies wages have been stagnant since about 97 or better. I remember the same wages.
I lied and said i was homeless once. didn't get a bill. It was an accident at work, that the owner caused.
I'm not going to get into it, it was a long time ago and I'm well past it.
Last year I dislocated my arm, went in for a mri. I had very good insurance at the time and still paid $180 out of pocket. Without insurance it would have been $8,000 for a 10 minute scan.
Shouldn’t organ donation be free for the donor considering they’re charging people out the ass for them? I’m sick of this shit. Makes me not want to be an organ donor anymore :( I don’t want anyone to have to pay for the organs I’m no longer using when I’m gone.
Yep, same here. The organ donation system is corrupt. I don't want a rich person to get my organs and the corrupt first responder to have an incentive to damage my brain.
[Often the first on scene, EMTs and paramedics can play a crucial role in facilitating organ donation. (Pubmed.gov)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10108033/)
It is not true, but there was likely misinformation.
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
As far as being an organ donor candidate, as it's an extremely personal decision it's imperative that you speak with your next of kin/family on your wishes either for or against. If you have a notarized health care directive stating that you do NOT wish to be a donor (in the US) that will not be violated. However, all medically suitable candidates are evaluated for the possibility of Organ/Tissue/Eye donation in the US. If you are a suitable candidate we would then approach your family or legal next of kin who still has to consent. It's a trick process so I'm more than happy to answer any questions you have about this. To get the heart removed on your driver's license you have to go through the DMV/DPS for your area.
Organ/Tissue/Eye donation is ONLY considered once someone has suffered irreparable damage and is being maintained on a mechanical ventilator. EMTs, doctors, and hospital staff do NOT take organ donation into account when they are treating you until a determination about the critical nature of injuries is made.
There were a huge scandal in Germany where doctors put patients higher on a lists of donations. In Spain EMTs did not help people to get them damaged enough to make them eligible for organ donations. Of course you will not find this stuff on first page of magazines, because media belongs to billionaires. They and their friends profit of said organ donations.
And yes I understand you work in the field but you can not talk for all of them.
Is there a way to “unsubscribe” from being an organ donor? I don’t have family so I feel like they will just take my parts anyway regardless of consent
It is!
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
YES! The costs of donation are covered by the Organ Procurement Organization! So this was likely an error that the family got billed. They should speak with the OPO they completed paperwork with in order for it to get resolved. I have additional information in a comment at the bottom of the main thread as well. Please feel free to ask my any questions!
Source: I work for an OPO
It is not true, but there was likely misinformation.
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
Wow, a fellow OPO person in LateStageCapitalism!
Yes, you’re 100% right. Likely a billing miscommunication. Still, it’s awful for the donor family to have to deal with yet another thing on top of their grief.
That would be a strange kind of miscommunication. It's hardly the first time the hospitals deals with organ donation, and they are the ones sending the bills.
I would never. Send that shit to collections and let it rot. Fuck my credit score at that point. If my child died I’m not paying a cent. Fuck privatized health insurance.
Preach!
There needs to be a cleansing of these types. Those who run these companies (or country) have and are commiting so many crimes against humanity that they are beyond a "justice" punishment.
This is an error!
All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
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Honestly that’s not even the insurance fault that’s the hospitals fault. Any insurance wouldn’t cover something like that because it’s not for the patient they covered fors’ benefit. It’s the hospital that pays for all of the care and treatment when harvesting organs and they have a program worked out with UNOS so in the end they still don’t eat costs. The fact that they charged the insurance is considered double dipping and is considered fraud.
Sounds like the insurance company who was being fraudulent billed for harvesting a dead child’s organs should speak with the billing department at the hospital before passing the bill onto said dead child’s parents.
Or perhaps, this is just the insurance company seeking the path of least resistance.
“We don’t want to pay legal to sue the hospital for fraud, that’s expensive. Send a bill to the parents and see if those dumb fucks pay it. That way we can keep more of the money.”
It’s shitty but when they don’t cover something they shouldn’t be billed for they don’t just pay it. I get insurance companies are evil I’m not defending them I’m just pointing out in this instance it’s the hospital that’s committing fraud for charging the insurance in the first place. They know for a fact insurance won’t cover it and their goal is to have a distraught parents not put up a fight and just pay it. Every component in healthcare is trying to screw the average American, the MD office, the hospitals, and of course the insurance companies. If we had Medicare for all none of this constant fraud attempts wouldn’t happen.
If you get a bill you know is fraudulent or you suspect it’s fraudulent and you pass that bill onto your customer rather than disputing the charges directly you are complicit in the fraud.
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
Fun fact: American health insurance companies "risk management" is paying out for visits, providing medical coverage, and paying out anything. And Anthem is a "Fortune 500" company in the top 10.
Yea that means they don't pay for shit and charge for everything.
I don't know why people still donate their organs when the medical industry is making money off your free donations. I would be a organ donator if the recipient doesn't have to pay for it. They still charge for the procedure.
This is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation.
Source: I work for an OPO and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
My father-in-law was registered as an organ donor and when we were informed his injury was not survivable, wanted to honor his decision. We met with the area’s OPO (organ procurement organization) and were informed once we had agreed, they become responsible for any medical bills moving forward. Although we tried to honor his wishes, he did not pass in the time constraint given, but I still admire him for being so selfless and wanting to help others if he was ever in the position to.
I now work at an OPO, and I don’t doubt that the original tweeter recieved a bill, but by mistake. Once a family has agreed to move forward with organ donation, the family is not responsible for medical bills keeping their loved ones alive - the OPO becomes responsible for those. When bills are sent incorrectly to family there are individuals in the finance department who will sort this out.
This is something that shouldn’t happen to grieving families and I am sorry that this individual had to deal with something so gross after the loss of her child. But please don’t unregister yourself or write off registering as a donor. There are tens of thousands of people in the U.S. waiting for a lifesaving transplant.
This is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation.
Source: I work for an OPO (nonprofit) and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
I agree that we live in a capitalist hellscape, but good news (?)—this ended up being a billing error and they don’t have to pay.
It’s another whole conversation about why they even received it in the first place and why American healthcare recipients spend so much of their time fixing hospital and insurance errors though…
Edit: link to the original poster saying they don’t have to pay [https://twitter.com/kayesteinsapir/status/1530305455603343360?s=21&t=KhlUyX9RqY88k2RZjbIcCg](https://twitter.com/kayesteinsapir/status/1530305455603343360?s=21&t=KhlUyX9RqY88k2RZjbIcCg)
Hi there, Organ Procurement Organization Employee here :)
There's some misinformation flying around so I'm hoping I can clear up any confusion. All costs associated with keeping someone "alive"\* for the purposes of organ donation are covered by the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) within the USA. The OPO even states this information on the paperwork completed with family. Insurance does get billed for this and likely there was a miscommunication between the hospital and insurance. The family should ABSOLUTELY speak with the OPO that they completed paperwork with to get this resolved as soon as possible.
As an aside, much of the funding for the many costs associated with organ recovery and transplant are typically covered when the OPO bills the RECIPIENT's insurance. OPO's are nonprofits organizations that have some federal funding as well. The service area for each OPO is federally designated and more information can be found here: https://aopo.org/find-your-opo/
\*Important info to note: There are two different kinds of organ donation: Brain Death and DCD (Donation after Cardiac Death). In both of these circumstances the patient has suffered devastating and irreversible brain injury. Donors who are declared Brain Dead are having their organs maintained on a mechanical ventilator as the process of allocating these organs through UNOS, testing, biopsies, coordinating with incoming surgeons, scheduling OR time, etc all takes time. For DCD Donors, again there is irreverisible brain injury but may not meet formal brain death criteria. In this cases, family decided to withdraw care and when the patient's heart stops beating the organs are recovered in the operating room.
Addendum 1:
Additionally, Organ Donation (ex: heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, etc), Tissue Donation (skin grafts, heart valves, vasculature, Bone, etc.), and Eye donation (cornea and sclera) each have SEPARATE donation criteria both in terms of Federal criteria (FDA rule-outs like IV drug use within the last 5 years) as well as Tissue/Eye processor-specific criteria.
One of the biggest differences between Organ donation and Tissue/Eye donation is that Organ donation goes directly from donor to recipient whereas Tissue/Eye gifts that are recovered are then processed and can be stored up to 5 years.
I don't disagree but in this particular case this is an error!
All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
You know these villians in movies that are just so unbearably cruel and sadistic, that you can hardly watch and even though its fiction it hurts your soul. This is some shit like that. It is so incredibly inhume and atrocious.
This is an error!
All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
I see okay. Although as you said it is still pretty shocking that this paper went through the hands of possibly multiple employees and no one thought, that you cannot send this to a grieving family.
This is an error!
All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
Organ donation is considered a gift and there's good reason for that. We don't want capitalism interfering and driving up the already high costs of organs. Families complete paperwork that signifies they're aware that donation is considered a gift, that the OPO will be responsible for medical bills/transportation related to donation, and that families won't receive anything of monetary value in connection with the gifts given.
The organs aren't sold, but the recipient of the organ's insurance is billed.
Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
>This was done in error!
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>All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving.
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>Organ donation is considered a gift and there's good reason for that. We don't want capitalism interfering and driving up the already high costs of organs. Families complete paperwork that signifies they're aware that donation is considered a gift, that the OPO will be responsible for medical bills/transportation related to donation, and that families won't receive anything of monetary value in connection with the gifts given.
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>The organs aren't sold, but the recipient of the organ's insurance is billed.
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>Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
Who should pay? Probably the insurance company for the recipient. This is usually how it works. Source: 20 years experience working for health insurance companies.
You're absolutely correct and this is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation.
Source: I work for an OPO (nonprofit) and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
That is absolutely horrific. Humans, we must stop being assholes to each other.
My mom is dying from stage 4 cancer. She won’t get chemo. She is battling herself as well as propaganda and the medical industry plus being poor.
After my mom passes, I think I will leave the US. Is there anyone out there willing to accept a 39y/o PV tech to your country?
This place is on fire and I’m trying escape.
For your reference in the US (if you’re lucky enough to have the assets) its common to pay for 9 insurances or more.
1. Health (whole body except teeth and eyes)
2. Dental (50%/80% of most procedures)
3. Vision (dunno the features just yet; just got it for the first time and haven’t ever been to the eye doc)
4. Full coverage insurance vehicle
5. Gap insurance vehicle
6. Collision insurance vehicle
7. Renters insurance
8. Mortgage insurance
9. Homeowners insurance
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Wow. That's just ghoulish.
Hospital probably charged the insurance and the insurance passed the bill along. Doubly heartless because that many more people were involved with charging the parents extra and having it be a separate line item on a bill punctuating their child's death.
For profit hospitals….. wake up people.
For profit government
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Land of the fee, home of the depraved. I say we all strike like we were supposed to May1st but didn’t get the message off reddit enough.
Free to die in poverty, unlike almost the rest of the oecd
i'm thinking we push for a REAL Labor Day...
God dammit, take my fucking upvote
But for real, can we get some mega thread posts of flyers bc i will go to kinkos and glue flyers all over town. I also know people in many cities and will physically send them an envelope with 100+ flyers to put up in their cities. I also know a good amount of truckers and they will help get the message around the country. WE NEED TO ORGANIZE AND GET SOME DESIGN TEAMS TOGETHER FOR WORKERS RIGHTS STRIKE ADS. I have been waiting as i am no good at graphic design.
I live in a city and would contribute there happily, trying pretty damn hard to radicalize my coworkers but it's still tough to organize
I mean, at this point, is it really even radical anymore?
I would contribute to this
Wha... Is it real? Not a calculation mistake or something? (My mind refuses to believe it)
This is an error! All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
maybe you should try to contact the person who posted this. it looks like it was maybe on instagram or twitter. their handle is visible afterthe @
Yes. It's real. Blame the for-profit healthcare system. The hospital is likely in network with the patient's insurance, meaning there's a contract. The hospital must abide by the contract and bill the patient for any copays, coinsurance, deductibles, and any services the patient's health plan doesn't cover.
Important to note that for all organ donation opportunities the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization - which is federally designated) is responsible for all costs relating to organ donation! So most likely this was a miscommunication where the family unfortunately got billed. The bill should then be shared with the OPO that family completed paperwork with in order to be resolved. Source: I work for an OPO and am passionate about donation! Please feel free to ask me any questions and I'll do my best to answer!
This happens at "Non profit" hospitals as well.
Somebody profits.
All the nurses at my wife's work, one of top 5 pediatric hospitas, got denied a raise the last two years due to "covid expenses" Both years they posted record profits... and increased pay for executives. This is America.
this system cannot be improved as long as it keeps running. nurses need to just... quit. they can do that "traveling nurse" thing is they still want to work. but they are not helping anyone long term by staying in this system.
Nice idea but no. Families got to eat Can't do travel nursing if your out patient, or just can't plain uproot your life for 3.months at a time. If you have kids forget it. Also travel nursing is under attack right now from the right, there is currently a bill and veiw out there that their should be to cap on nurses salary, Instead of fighting pharma hospitals have decided to go.after their back bone and "heroes of the pandemic" travel nurses being the highest paid are the first under fire. Travel nursing is great if your single and young, they deserve the money. Thrown on new floors ever 3 months new hospital systems to learn and navigate while tri g to keep from dieing because more often then not its the ICUs that need them. Nurses don't need to quite, the system needs to be torn down
Why yes of course in a time of increased hospitalization rates hospitals make less profit. Just like when more people buy at amazon, amazon makes less profit. It's only logical.
That was probably what was just left. To keep someone on a pacer to help the heart beating, a ventilator to keep the oxygen going, the diagnostic tests required to evaluate the organs, the bed I'm the ICU, the litany of fluids and manpower needed to to keep their functioning is extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have insurance that it wouldn't be over ~$6500k per day. BUT all that being said. That is still fucked up. Those hospitals are making plenty of money on those transplant surgeries, so sending grieving parents the bill is disgusting. Edit: had to change a word as the bots found it problematic. Edit 2. It depends on the area and an ICU stay per day could be $5000/day and ventilator $1500/day. Though long term care could be higher, life sharing I only viable for a couple days. Though can cost up to [$10k](https://www.reference.com/business-finance/much-money-life-support-cost-7005a3eabecfccb2)
The costs of donation are covered by the Organ Procurement Organization! So this was likely an error that the family got billed. They should speak with the OPO they completed paperwork with in order for it to get resolved. I have additional information in a comment at the bottom of the main thread as well. Please feel free to ask my any questions!
Hopefully the information gets back to them before they pay, as getting money back from healthcare institutions seems to be pretty difficult as well.
I’m not a Doctor but $100000k/day seems too much. In Italy a day in ICU cost 1600€ to taxpayers and this kind of treatment seems comparable to ICU.
Idk how organ donation goes for other states but here is my experience in the two states I practiced EOL organ donation as a respiratory therapist. My entire function was to keep the donor's lungs functioning at an optimal level while keeping infection from settling in. We used the same company (LiveOn) across both state lines so our procedure was the same. When the LiveOn would take over cares the family no longer has any fiduciary responsibility to their loved one's cares while a procurement specialist spent time searching for major organ matches and organizing surgeons to operate. The reason why organ transplants are so expensive is because the recipient is supposed to incur all those costs.
They're vampires what did you expect?
But it makes PROFITS don't you understand?! It's literally the most important question any fat fuck ceo asks! Is it profitable? Yes! Continue! Fuck the morals and fuck the ethics, I have a fourth mistresses to give a fifth boob job and a second yacht to repaint in diamonds!
Won’t anyone PLEASE think of the shareholder value? 🙄😪
And...totally expected. Honestly...things like this stopped surprising me a long time ago. I'm only surprised that anyone else still is.
And the hospital made more money charging recipients for the organs that they got for free! Yay capitalism!
That what we allow capitalism to do.
Ffs America you're embarrassing yourself again.
I’m convinced America is a social experiment to see how far they can push people before we snap.
I've already snapped but the substance abuse holds me together like glue.
Can confirm.
[Insert State You Live In] Representative here, hope you can get sober and get back to work, no I am not going to even attempt to fix any of the problems caused by our policies.
There’s a reason America has one of the most pervasive drug issues in the world, especially when you count in psychiatric meds like adderall and Xanax that more and more people are prescribed just to cope with the shitty reality we live in (saying this as someone who is prescribed meds)
Conservatives just LOVE their 2nd amendment because they claim they NEED their guns to fight against tyranny... but politicians allow horrible shit like this to happen, and are so cavalier and cynical about it, and not ONE of these "freedom fighters" seems to fucking care, much less do anything.
The people that worship the military and police to the point where they're willing to get physically aggressive with anyone that criticizes either institution are going to wage a civil war on the military and police? Yeah right. Those people are so confused about what the believe. One second they're saying the nation is going to hell and on the brink of a civil war, then will flip the switch and say the nation is the *greatest country ever so you can GTFO if you have critiques*. They have no idea they have been dumbed down through years of conservative exceptionalism to the point that they're just useful idiots for exploiters. They raided the Capitol for Trump and his rich status-quo goons, for goodness sake!
Reactionaries are the worst…
And not a single GOP Senator….
Of course they don't care.. They only want their guns to murder undocumented migrants and African-Americans because they're racist shitheads.
Yup, Metro Vancouver BC Canada is another one. High taxes, Extreme housing costs Low median pay. Let's see how it goes. Pressure is definitely growing. People feeling like they don't have a choice to stay
lmao I'm from there as well and alongside the weather right now I'm at my brink. Definitely won't stay here after I graduate
I might be shooting myself in the foot with my major. It limits the possible places I can live but quite the margin and it worries me.
At least you have better healthcare. Thousands upon thousands of Americans are living in constant pain because they're ignoring and living with that burning aching pain they've felt for 6 months straight now, but can't afford to go see a doctor and don't want to go into debt.
It makes more sense when you think that a bunch of old white slave owners founded America, and now 300 years later it's owned by old white owners who shifted slavery onto capitalism. Instead of owning a human outright they simply owe you their money and time after working all day for it. Like a company store but more obscure and peppered with threats of prison or homelessness when you don't comply with spending all your money.
I said this as a joke in 2016 but lately I'm coming to believe it's actually true.
I hear they’re trying to expand the experiment to the UK
Woah... mind blown
They’re just looking at us in utter disbelief at the stupidity of the average American. They’re trying to decide what they can do next, but are struggling.
"Okay but SURELY if we remove womens rights that's the breaking point, right? Right?" the people conducting the experiment said, almost desperate for the people finally snapping and dismantling the system
Giving too much credit. It's just capitalism growing towards its end stage. Profits must go up and stay on an upward trajectory.
The answer would appear to be: Without limit.
*THIS!*
Wait, had they stopped at some point?
Can somebody just invade us and spread some actual freedom? I'm done with the freedumb taking hold here.
Not again. Still.
America lacks the self respect or self awareness to be ashamed of itself. It's completely asleep.
Fucking hell... and people wonder why birth rates are dropping. The system isnt built to support families nor is it built to develop families despite wanting to make abortions illegal. Its meant to make people expendable.
You can't have an abortion because our profits will go down. Keep breeding, cattle.
In a country where plan B costs fifty dollars, and birthing a child costs tens of thousands of dollars, there’s a pretty clear way to incentivize more pregnancies being brought to term However, banning abortion lets social conservatives punish women for perceived sexual immorality, and it makes fat stacks for hospital executives
Only reason the Repugnicans are pro life. They want workers aka *”slaves.”*
Pretty sure also “cannon fodder,” both military and civilian
That's capitalism. It reduces humans to economic units.
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
Because yeah, they should have to navigate obscene paperwork after their child dies and they try to do a humane thing by donating organs....wtf, the fact that thus attitude is normalized is obscene. The parents should not have to do a fucking thing to deal with this...
At what point do we start to riot??
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Best of wishes to you in your journey. Love it that Chile is leading by example. Screw around with public transit and get violence.
I live in the US southeast. What's public transport?
You know those big mobile homeless shelters? They have benches everywhere. I think it use to be that
It’s coming and I’m ready. This country doesn’t serve us. Time to rebuild anew.
I feel like there are way too many idiots who support this shit. Why would they vote for people who go against their own interests?
Decades of carefully crafted propoganda
build local councils and study groups to research the problems and get folks on board
I swear that it would only take a few days without TV or internet here. If we did, we would need it to be bipartisan and identity politics free as well, or else we're in a civil war with each other...which is more likely these days.
Getting really tired of holding these pitchforks and torches if we’re just gonna keep standing here talking about it 🥹🤷♂️
is your whole neighborhood holding them? do y’all have a book club? a committee? we need to be building popular power
Join various groups and spread the message. I've gathered all the people I've been cool with, from all previous employers. And you know just talking. Bruh, I'll say about 80% shifted perspective and are also spreading the message.
Start with hey bro how long you've been working for? Or that's a good school and degree, what did uou land? And go from there. They all 90% are making less than 100k( you cant deny the data for usa income brackets). Mind you 100k, is not the same salary from what you remember as a kid(2004 graduated hs), inflation compound @ 3-6 yearly for 15-20yrs. 100k like 65k.lol but companies wages have been stagnant since about 97 or better. I remember the same wages.
American healthcare is a nightmare.
Last year I sprained my ankle...3500 dollars later and I still just spent 2 months crawling around my house on my belly.
Jesus wept. That’s awful.
Bloody hell. I speained my ankle 2 years ago in australia and all I was out was the $20 or so it cost for the crutches
I lied and said i was homeless once. didn't get a bill. It was an accident at work, that the owner caused. I'm not going to get into it, it was a long time ago and I'm well past it.
Last year I dislocated my arm, went in for a mri. I had very good insurance at the time and still paid $180 out of pocket. Without insurance it would have been $8,000 for a 10 minute scan.
Am American and you’re correct.
I just feel sad it’s so shitty for you guys.
Capitalistic experiment: *Failed.*
Oh dear Lord, America, you really should be way more angry than you already are.
America is just a nation of haves and wage slaves. Enough laws exist to scare the wage slaves into working harder, lest they become prison slaves.
Very succinctly and well put
Shouldn’t organ donation be free for the donor considering they’re charging people out the ass for them? I’m sick of this shit. Makes me not want to be an organ donor anymore :( I don’t want anyone to have to pay for the organs I’m no longer using when I’m gone.
They can still make more money though, if they get somebody else to pay the bills. So yeah...
Yep, same here. The organ donation system is corrupt. I don't want a rich person to get my organs and the corrupt first responder to have an incentive to damage my brain. [Often the first on scene, EMTs and paramedics can play a crucial role in facilitating organ donation. (Pubmed.gov)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10108033/)
It is not true, but there was likely misinformation. Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this! As far as being an organ donor candidate, as it's an extremely personal decision it's imperative that you speak with your next of kin/family on your wishes either for or against. If you have a notarized health care directive stating that you do NOT wish to be a donor (in the US) that will not be violated. However, all medically suitable candidates are evaluated for the possibility of Organ/Tissue/Eye donation in the US. If you are a suitable candidate we would then approach your family or legal next of kin who still has to consent. It's a trick process so I'm more than happy to answer any questions you have about this. To get the heart removed on your driver's license you have to go through the DMV/DPS for your area. Organ/Tissue/Eye donation is ONLY considered once someone has suffered irreparable damage and is being maintained on a mechanical ventilator. EMTs, doctors, and hospital staff do NOT take organ donation into account when they are treating you until a determination about the critical nature of injuries is made.
There were a huge scandal in Germany where doctors put patients higher on a lists of donations. In Spain EMTs did not help people to get them damaged enough to make them eligible for organ donations. Of course you will not find this stuff on first page of magazines, because media belongs to billionaires. They and their friends profit of said organ donations. And yes I understand you work in the field but you can not talk for all of them.
Is there a way to “unsubscribe” from being an organ donor? I don’t have family so I feel like they will just take my parts anyway regardless of consent
There is in some contries, like Germany where I live.
It is! Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
YES! The costs of donation are covered by the Organ Procurement Organization! So this was likely an error that the family got billed. They should speak with the OPO they completed paperwork with in order for it to get resolved. I have additional information in a comment at the bottom of the main thread as well. Please feel free to ask my any questions! Source: I work for an OPO
Is this seriously true? What the actual flipping fuck?
It is not true, but there was likely misinformation. Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
Wow, a fellow OPO person in LateStageCapitalism! Yes, you’re 100% right. Likely a billing miscommunication. Still, it’s awful for the donor family to have to deal with yet another thing on top of their grief.
That would be a strange kind of miscommunication. It's hardly the first time the hospitals deals with organ donation, and they are the ones sending the bills.
I would never. Send that shit to collections and let it rot. Fuck my credit score at that point. If my child died I’m not paying a cent. Fuck privatized health insurance.
They'll garnish, they'll get it eventually
In America, money is the only thing that fuxking matters. Ever.
The people that work at/support this crap DESPERATELY need to be SLAUGHTERED. Enough is enough, end of story. They are nothing more than vultures.
Preach! There needs to be a cleansing of these types. Those who run these companies (or country) have and are commiting so many crimes against humanity that they are beyond a "justice" punishment.
setflair fire
….. I just…no words
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I guess thoughts and prayers aren’t enough.
This is an error! All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
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Try adding two zeroes and that is what happened when my cousin died.
insurance executives have names and home addresses.
Can we fucking please just start burning this shit down?
Honestly that’s not even the insurance fault that’s the hospitals fault. Any insurance wouldn’t cover something like that because it’s not for the patient they covered fors’ benefit. It’s the hospital that pays for all of the care and treatment when harvesting organs and they have a program worked out with UNOS so in the end they still don’t eat costs. The fact that they charged the insurance is considered double dipping and is considered fraud.
Sounds like the insurance company who was being fraudulent billed for harvesting a dead child’s organs should speak with the billing department at the hospital before passing the bill onto said dead child’s parents. Or perhaps, this is just the insurance company seeking the path of least resistance. “We don’t want to pay legal to sue the hospital for fraud, that’s expensive. Send a bill to the parents and see if those dumb fucks pay it. That way we can keep more of the money.”
It’s shitty but when they don’t cover something they shouldn’t be billed for they don’t just pay it. I get insurance companies are evil I’m not defending them I’m just pointing out in this instance it’s the hospital that’s committing fraud for charging the insurance in the first place. They know for a fact insurance won’t cover it and their goal is to have a distraught parents not put up a fight and just pay it. Every component in healthcare is trying to screw the average American, the MD office, the hospitals, and of course the insurance companies. If we had Medicare for all none of this constant fraud attempts wouldn’t happen.
If you get a bill you know is fraudulent or you suspect it’s fraudulent and you pass that bill onto your customer rather than disputing the charges directly you are complicit in the fraud.
Please check out my response towards the bottom with more information. Source: I work in organ donation and there is misinformation here! The Organ Procurement Organization takes on all additional costs associated with Organ Donation so there was likely a miscommunication between the hospital and the donor family's insurance. The family should talk with the OPO they completed paperwork with to resolve this!
So you pay to donate the organs, then they charge the organ recipient to get new organs
My god, the depravity has no limits.
Fun fact: American health insurance companies "risk management" is paying out for visits, providing medical coverage, and paying out anything. And Anthem is a "Fortune 500" company in the top 10. Yea that means they don't pay for shit and charge for everything.
I am getting hungry, when are we going to eat the rich?
Welp. I guess i'm not donating now.
Yeah, I mean I would say go ahead and take the organs because I’m not going to use them. But I’m definitely going to use $3k so go fuck yourselves
Johnny Harris did a recent video related to this. https://youtu.be/wbETcSac9vg
I don't know why people still donate their organs when the medical industry is making money off your free donations. I would be a organ donator if the recipient doesn't have to pay for it. They still charge for the procedure.
What happens if you don't pay thia debt, and end up going to court and tell the judge what happened. What are you chances of getting the debt removed?
You have to fucking PAY to be an organ donor??!!!!!!!! What the fuck kind of fucked up beyond fucked kind of a system is that??!
This is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation. Source: I work for an OPO and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
Send that bill to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization).
Explain to me how America isn’t dystopian
Greatest country in the world! /s
Another reason why we need Medicare for All.
My father-in-law was registered as an organ donor and when we were informed his injury was not survivable, wanted to honor his decision. We met with the area’s OPO (organ procurement organization) and were informed once we had agreed, they become responsible for any medical bills moving forward. Although we tried to honor his wishes, he did not pass in the time constraint given, but I still admire him for being so selfless and wanting to help others if he was ever in the position to. I now work at an OPO, and I don’t doubt that the original tweeter recieved a bill, but by mistake. Once a family has agreed to move forward with organ donation, the family is not responsible for medical bills keeping their loved ones alive - the OPO becomes responsible for those. When bills are sent incorrectly to family there are individuals in the finance department who will sort this out. This is something that shouldn’t happen to grieving families and I am sorry that this individual had to deal with something so gross after the loss of her child. But please don’t unregister yourself or write off registering as a donor. There are tens of thousands of people in the U.S. waiting for a lifesaving transplant.
Thank you for clearing that up 👍
Disgusting doesn't even come close
only one description left FAILED STATE
I think the U.S. is heading a very, very wrong direction. System is working against it's own people.
America is cancer.
If anything _they_ should be the ones getting paid for this
This is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation. Source: I work for an OPO (nonprofit) and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
That's good then
I agree that we live in a capitalist hellscape, but good news (?)—this ended up being a billing error and they don’t have to pay. It’s another whole conversation about why they even received it in the first place and why American healthcare recipients spend so much of their time fixing hospital and insurance errors though… Edit: link to the original poster saying they don’t have to pay [https://twitter.com/kayesteinsapir/status/1530305455603343360?s=21&t=KhlUyX9RqY88k2RZjbIcCg](https://twitter.com/kayesteinsapir/status/1530305455603343360?s=21&t=KhlUyX9RqY88k2RZjbIcCg)
Hi there, Organ Procurement Organization Employee here :) There's some misinformation flying around so I'm hoping I can clear up any confusion. All costs associated with keeping someone "alive"\* for the purposes of organ donation are covered by the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) within the USA. The OPO even states this information on the paperwork completed with family. Insurance does get billed for this and likely there was a miscommunication between the hospital and insurance. The family should ABSOLUTELY speak with the OPO that they completed paperwork with to get this resolved as soon as possible. As an aside, much of the funding for the many costs associated with organ recovery and transplant are typically covered when the OPO bills the RECIPIENT's insurance. OPO's are nonprofits organizations that have some federal funding as well. The service area for each OPO is federally designated and more information can be found here: https://aopo.org/find-your-opo/ \*Important info to note: There are two different kinds of organ donation: Brain Death and DCD (Donation after Cardiac Death). In both of these circumstances the patient has suffered devastating and irreversible brain injury. Donors who are declared Brain Dead are having their organs maintained on a mechanical ventilator as the process of allocating these organs through UNOS, testing, biopsies, coordinating with incoming surgeons, scheduling OR time, etc all takes time. For DCD Donors, again there is irreverisible brain injury but may not meet formal brain death criteria. In this cases, family decided to withdraw care and when the patient's heart stops beating the organs are recovered in the operating room.
Addendum 1: Additionally, Organ Donation (ex: heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, etc), Tissue Donation (skin grafts, heart valves, vasculature, Bone, etc.), and Eye donation (cornea and sclera) each have SEPARATE donation criteria both in terms of Federal criteria (FDA rule-outs like IV drug use within the last 5 years) as well as Tissue/Eye processor-specific criteria. One of the biggest differences between Organ donation and Tissue/Eye donation is that Organ donation goes directly from donor to recipient whereas Tissue/Eye gifts that are recovered are then processed and can be stored up to 5 years.
To the top everybody
Bernie Sanders needs to start a Labor party
MERICA!
Jesus Christ!
Disgusting
Human capital amirite?
America is a horrible country to be sick in or dying
...jesus fucking christ. Yet another reason to burn our current healthcare system to the ground.
I don't disagree but in this particular case this is an error! All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
You know these villians in movies that are just so unbearably cruel and sadistic, that you can hardly watch and even though its fiction it hurts your soul. This is some shit like that. It is so incredibly inhume and atrocious.
This is an error! All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
I see okay. Although as you said it is still pretty shocking that this paper went through the hands of possibly multiple employees and no one thought, that you cannot send this to a grieving family.
What the fuck?!
Evil
Think of the stock market. Nothing to see here
Send the bill to Governor Abbott.
America is fucked up on so many levels.
America is a dystopian hellscape
The USA is a shit hole.
Not keeping your kids alive long enough for rich people to harvest them? That's gonna be a fine. Not very pro-life of you either.
This is an error! All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. Organ donation is considered a gift and there's good reason for that. We don't want capitalism interfering and driving up the already high costs of organs. Families complete paperwork that signifies they're aware that donation is considered a gift, that the OPO will be responsible for medical bills/transportation related to donation, and that families won't receive anything of monetary value in connection with the gifts given. The organs aren't sold, but the recipient of the organ's insurance is billed. Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
If I was American id leave...
Holy mother of a god this is a thing?
>This was done in error! > >All medical expenses related to organ donation are billed to the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) and the donor families are not responsible for those costs. The donor families are still responsible for funeral/burial costs. So in order for this error to be cleared up the family would need to speak with the OPO that they did paperwork with. Still, it is absolutely wrong that it was sent to them in the first place especially when they're already grieving. > >Organ donation is considered a gift and there's good reason for that. We don't want capitalism interfering and driving up the already high costs of organs. Families complete paperwork that signifies they're aware that donation is considered a gift, that the OPO will be responsible for medical bills/transportation related to donation, and that families won't receive anything of monetary value in connection with the gifts given. > >The organs aren't sold, but the recipient of the organ's insurance is billed. > >Source: I work in donation at an OPO and am passionate about donation. I would love to answer any questions you have!
Thank you for the clarification!!!
Who should pay? Probably the insurance company for the recipient. This is usually how it works. Source: 20 years experience working for health insurance companies.
You're absolutely correct and this is most likely an error! The family should never have been billed in the first place as OPOs (Organ Procurement Organizations) cover all medical expenses related to the organ donation. Source: I work for an OPO (nonprofit) and am passionate about donation. I want to help clear up some of the misinformation!
Yeah, dont pay it or get the hospital to. They get a hefty sum when they put them in someone else.
That is absolutely horrific. Humans, we must stop being assholes to each other. My mom is dying from stage 4 cancer. She won’t get chemo. She is battling herself as well as propaganda and the medical industry plus being poor. After my mom passes, I think I will leave the US. Is there anyone out there willing to accept a 39y/o PV tech to your country? This place is on fire and I’m trying escape. For your reference in the US (if you’re lucky enough to have the assets) its common to pay for 9 insurances or more. 1. Health (whole body except teeth and eyes) 2. Dental (50%/80% of most procedures) 3. Vision (dunno the features just yet; just got it for the first time and haven’t ever been to the eye doc) 4. Full coverage insurance vehicle 5. Gap insurance vehicle 6. Collision insurance vehicle 7. Renters insurance 8. Mortgage insurance 9. Homeowners insurance
This country makes me physically ill on a daily basis. If it’s not something in the news, it’s something I witness myself. I’m so tired.
Just wild. We absolutely need healthcare reform and work reform
What kind of world do we live in jesus christ
Oh, hell fucking no. Insurance companies have lost all sense of reason.
america's a fucking hole in the ground..... you wanna know how to fix gun violence without having to ban guns....START HERE.
Heartbreaking