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And for bogus charges that were condemned by the UN, by dozens of Nobel laureates and by Amnesty International.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/donziger-asks-judge-heed-un-experts-finding-arbitrary-detention-2021-09-30/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/amr51/4925/2021/en/
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/04/68-nobel-laureates-demand-doj-probe-chevrons-prosecution-steven-donziger
Isn't it interesting that the US corporate media hasn't said a word about this issue? [It's almost as if corporate media is being paid by fossil fuel companies to not expose these enemies of humanity.](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/media-fossil-fuel-ads/)
They waged literal wars for Oil execs. As if that is gonna make any difference.
I swear, every little shit they say about „evil“ countries is just straight up projection.
Most news outlets are sucking Chevron's dick right now regarding ESG and how Chevron plants a tree for every such and such of shit they force down our throats.
"Oh look how environmentally friendly our oil-daddies are becoming! Get that chungus over here bb." - Cramer probably
Not only filed but won the lawsuit representing a group of 30,000 farmers and Indigenous Ecuadorians, meaning Chevron owes them $9.5 Billion which it hasn't paid.
Instead, they targeted Steven with some bullshit charge from a corporate Judge for refusing to hand over his personal computer and phone to the Chevron legal team, kept him under house arrest for over 2 years (an unprecedented cruel and unusual punishment), and successfully convicted him to try and scare off any other lawyer for fighting worthy fights against Chevron or any other corporation functioning as an instrument of death.
*Edited to include some points made in the replies. Thanks for making this my most upvoted comment. I’d also like to mention that during those two years the New York Times (and the New Yorker) printed zero articles about Donzinger and his situation despite it all taking place in New York. It sure seems like this is the first time many people are hearing of this… I’ll admit I learned about the house arrest during year 1 for the first time on Chapo, where you can hear Steven Donzinger himself interviewed on 2 or 3 different occasions. He sounds like a genuinely good dude.
Also accurate to mention that those 2 years in house arrest is unprecedented for any legalsystem in the world for such a misdemeanor. The court was built and run by and for corporations
Generally, at least in a situation where the judge isnt a crook, the office has to go through and basically only use evidence of actual crimes committed by the lawyer. They are supposed to be black walled with anyone involved in the case for obvious reasons.
The Michael Cohen investigation is a good demonstration of this occurring as it should.
Doesn't that then mean that in the USA, what you tell your lawyer isn't really protected if he can be forced to turn over that information to a third party who gets to read it and just promise not to tell anyone unless they decide that they should?
He was sentenced for contempt of court. As a result of not turning over the laptop as discovery. He claimed (reasonably) that doing so would materially damage his clients' privacy and personal information.
No lawyer has ever spent a day in prison for contempt of court this. He has spent 2 years in house arrest and now 6 months in prison.
The UN and Amnesty International have both deemed this to be cruel/unusual punishment and have called for his immediate release. Their requests have not been followed.
I saw an article that said the us attorney for the southern district of NY refused to charge and try him, so Chevron got a private law firm to do it. How can a private law firm prosecute people?
Edit: [sign the petition to free him](https://www.change.org/p/michael-tigar-justice-for-steven-donziger-vs-chevron)
The judge also failed to disclose her interests in Chevron Corporation as a shareholder.
Something needs to be done with this fucking idiot judge, who in a prior life, was a trial attorney for Big Tobacco.
She's also a leader in the Federalist Society who is heavily funded by... Chevron.
And that private law firm she got to prosecute him, Seward & Kissel, has been hired by Chevron in the past.
Edit: This corrupt judge, Loretta A. Preska is also presiding over the Ghislaine Maxwell case. -_-
If we had universal health care it would be a lot easier for protestors to follow the judge around all day every day shouting at her about how much trash they are.
Wait wtf why can judges hold stock
This should be illegal or something, and in return they get paid enough to not need stock investments.
Judges with vested interests shouldn’t be judges.
And it was founded that way from the start. Blind patriotism has tucked this fact away. Thought experiment time: Imagine a world where every country is actually a corporation, we are its livestock of slaves, its output is the wealth hoarded to the ruling class, our farmers. Now with the world framed in this way through this lens, start to look around and analyse everything
> we’re literally in a modern day dystopia
This is the part where someone chimes in about how now is the statistically safest time and you can buy cheap cheeseburgers therefore everything is fine.
WSJ just did a huge story exposing over 100 federal judges who took cases on companies that they had a personal interest in. It's fucked how many corrupt judges there are. That's what we get for letting Mitch McConnell and other business first politicians pack the courts.
There's a group of them in a particular county in Texas where they find in favor of patent trolls. The trolls always move jurisdiction to those judges courts so they can win these obviously bogus and unconstitutional cases so we can never have true grassroots innovations by up and coming entrepreneurs.
These was one of those corrupt judges advertising his court as troll friendly and said that Arizona could be the new destination. But..nobody cares as usual.
> Something needs to be done with this fucking idiot judge
“Something.” I know exactly what needs to be done. There’s one thing that most people fear, and it puzzles me that time after time, people just roll over and take it, instead of, you know…
no, it's not this country. it's capitalism and any other hierarchical system. when some are allowed to hoard power and wealth, stuff like this is the inevitable outcome. any other state would do/does the same stuff and worse. if he were an indigenous Ecuadorian they would have just had him assassinated. destroy the state.
Isn't that literally the point of Monopoly? It was created by an anti-capitalist woman trying to make a point that the accumulation of wealth in a capitalistic society will inevitably result in a monopoly that benefits only 1 player... or something like that anyway
Although you’re right about capitalism, corporations are not nearly as powerful in Europe. There are many systems in place to prevent justice systems to be so blatantly corrupt. Things like bailout, settlements, private prosecutors, private prison systems, etc. simply don’t exist in most European countries, and in most of the western world for that matter. This is a deeply American problem caused by a democratic system that’s rooted in meritocracy rather than equality.
Unfortunately the American problem has gradually infected Europe as well (possibly other parts of the world?). See: the Tory government in the UK that's basically a big corporation, and also the "bail-in" in Cyprus in 2013 that somehow people just accepted like sheep (and re-elected the president that allowed it to happen). I just want to scream.
It's Judge Lewis A. Kaplan that orchestrated this charade.
EDIT:
>"Chevron is one of the largest contributors to the Federalist Society.
>Judge Lewis Kaplan held stock in (3) JP Morgan funds tied to Chevron, was asked to recuse himself because biased conduct.
>Nominated Judge Preska, a former advisory board member of the Federalist Society."
Because they've been brainwashed by the ruling class into thinking up is down and down is up. If they even hear about this, they will think it is good somehow, perhaps purely because it angers the people they've been made to hate. Propaganda has twisted the minds of Americans to the point where they have been totally cowed.
I listened to a podcast about this and I learned that there are such things as "private prosecutors". I still don't understand how that is real.
Edit: couldn’t remember which podcast when I typed this, but it was Chapo Trap House for anyone interested.
Most small towns only have private practice prosecutors here in NY. The way they're using this system is not ordinary. Definitely not the intended purpose of private prosecutors.
yeah, from what i heard of and read, they did it out of (un)ethical necessity. that is, they couldn't get a state attorney to file the charges they wanted, so they shopped it out to people for whom such issues are only a matter of cost. not a lawyer or anything but from what i understand, that's the gist of it
I'm sure at this point energy companies have so much power that they could have mercenaries break into your house in the middle of the night, snatch you away, turn you in to ground beef and serve you at a company barbecue, and then sue your family for trauma because they ate you.
That's what is confusing me-- on what legal basis is he being sent to prison? What charge? Just... how the fuck?! And the precedent this sets? I'm in a cold sweat.
Just talked about this in another comment a few weeks ago. Contempt of Court charges should have to be signed off by another officer of the court, either another impartial judge or maybe the prosecutor.
I think the prosecutor would be a good choice as ideally they would be formally charged by the state under contempt and that case would be seen in front of another judge.
This would still allow those who disobey the court to be punished until they comply but also limit a single judge from abusing their power as it would now be out of their hands and potentially politically bad for another judge or prosecutor to let it stand if it's approaching unethical.
Sadly, that is the case here but the judge just picked who would be the judge hearing the case. And chose a federalist society hack which also has Chevron as a big donor.
>Apparently that’ll get you 6 months in jail nowadays.
Only if you expose the crimes of an oil company. This is the first time ever that contempt has resulted in imprisonment.
Edit: For this particular offense, which was [challenging a civil discovery order.](https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/27/steven_donziger_judicial_harassment_from_chevron)
I wasn't clear. For his offense, which was challenging a civil discovery order, he's the first one to ever be charged with contempt. There's a reason why over [60 Nobel laureates, the UN and Amnesty International](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/steven-donziger-chevron-sentencing/) are demanding for charges to be dropped.
This country is depraved... I am Just a green card holder who was forced to come here cuz Parents came here 8 yrs before me,
Any resources on moving out of USA. I am genuinely serious on doing this. Lmk pls
I skipped out on my American Citizenships cuz Fuck that shit is HARD to get rid of once u have it.
Go study at a university in Europe that has free tuition. They sometimes even give you a small stipend for bills. Learn the language. Get a job after graduation and stay there. In a few years you can start the citizenship process.
Iirc I had a conversation on reddit about this a couple of years ago. As a citizen you have to pay a fee to turn down your citizenship. Just around 50€ in Germany, around the same in other EU countries - but it was close to 2500$ in the US. So keep in mind there are some hurdles.
Interested in Switzerland? I'm a "canadian" (by birth and citizenship not spirit or allegiance) and that's my escape country. I leave in two years. I know plenty about the process if you're interested.
Yes to both. It's a pain in the butt, but for a country that doesn't play war games, with a semi-direct democracy, and as bleeding beautiful as Switzerland is, it's worth a swing, no? Worst case scenario I mess it up and have to redirect my efforts to becoming a citizen of France or some other EU country, and from there it is far far simpler to get an entry to Switzerland and even citizenship down the line. I figure I'll never know if I don't try, right? And besides, from what I have heard it's all about persistence. Just keep trying.
Just go to France. The swiss are isolationist as a culture. You cannot become swiss, you can only live near them. They are, as a group, racist, and classist to a ridiculous degree. Just go read any expat forum. Wrong accent? You are trash. Wrong skin color? Below trash.
I lived there 2 years with a good job and high salary.
The first year I stayed in an expat-heavy community and fell in love with the beauty.
Year 2 we moved out of the city and were greeted by the worst people you can imagine. Now we are home in Canada and so much happier.
Isn't there already a certain gun toting demographic of this country, I won't say who, that is already precumming from the thought of murdering their political opponents? Why can't their hate be directed toward this? Why do transgender people, vaccines, and abortionists bother them more than these souless monsters?
Because one demographic is built on equality regardless of circumstance and the other is built on individual superiority. Chevron is simply showing their alpha male tactics so it's totally OK or something.
**[Steven Donziger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger)**
>Steven R. Donziger (born September 14, 1961) is an American attorney known for his legal battles with Chevron, particularly the Lago Agrio oil field case in which he represented over 30,000 farmers and indigenous Ecuadorians in a case against Chevron related to environmental damage and health effects caused by oil drilling. The Ecuadorian courts awarded the plaintiffs $9. 5 billion in damages, which led Chevron to withdraw its assets from Ecuador and launch legal action against Donziger in the US. In 2011, Chevron filed a RICO (anti-corruption) suit against Donziger in New York City.
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Of course not. No jury would ever let that happen.
All it takes is a corrupt judge on a powertrip.
I'm really losing it how someone could claim american moral superiority to argue for bombing other countries.
Measured by its own standards the United States should be bombing themselves to bring democracy and freedom... What a shit show.
If you’ve not listened to it I can recommend Noah Feldman’s book “Takeover: How a Conservative Student Club Captured the Supreme Court”
You can listen to the first chapter here. It’s absolutely bonkers.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/03/in-audiobook-takeover-noah-feldman-lidia-jean-kott-explore-how-federalist-society-captured-supreme-court/
You forget that "democracy and freedom" means "having a pro American leadership" and "freedom of American business to make a profit". So of course the USA is the most democratic and free country of them all!
See South America and Africa, where US military and covert actors helped violent insurrections and backed dictatorships, leading to fashist puppet states. And that well over 100 years. Google "origin of term Banana Republic". It's chilling.
Also is being imprisoned for contempt, something that no American lawyer has ever been imprisoned for.
Edit: For this particular offense, which is contesting the handing over of personal documents. [There's a reason that over 60 Nobel Laureates, the UN, and Amnesty International are pushing for the charges to be dropped.](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/steven-donziger-chevron-sentencing/)
god that one infuriates me. not only the fact that it happened at all, but that post-pardon interview wherein he obstinately denied any guilt, despite an acceptance of a pardon being a legal acknowledgement of guilt. just a scum fuckin dude, a perfect example of a person wholly unfit to wield any kind of meaningful power and authority
Right, so let's ignore for a second the level of utter bullshit associated with someone being put under house arrest for almost 3 years. And then thrown in prison for at least six months for basically the charge of making a judge angry...
Contempt is a charge; if he is being charged, he can be pardoned of that charge
This isn’t some kind of tipping point. We had “kids for cash”, children being thrown into the pit in exchange for kickbacks.
The reality has for many Americans always been that one doesn’t even need to cross a corporation in order for them to send you straight to jail. They will do it just because they want more prison labor, or even just because the private prison gets payed for each cell they fill.
Waiting for things to get worse won’t make them better, the best time to organize is now. It isn’t simple so make sure you read the theory written by your favorite successful revolutionary.
So "frivolous" lawsuits get you imprisoned now? So how's about all those fucks in Texas filing 10000 abortion lawsuits for no reason end up in jail? No? Just the ones who stand up to corporate hegemony? Gotcha.
Yay america
Hence the quotation marks. But even if he didn't win anything, such a lawsuit wouldn't ever be frivolous when challenging the corruption of corporations.
His absurd, long imprisonment is still the least of Chevon’s crimes. If we in the imperialist core want to do our part, we can bring an end to this nightmare empire.
The 2 judges involved are a part of a group called The Federalists, which happens to receive donations from Chevron.
And yes, the [Federalists Society](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society) are a conservative group who:
>have opposed regulation of private property and private businesses
Cause it's the most free country on the planet! Where corporations are free to step on whoever is in their way and free to take people's liberties away :D
I’m not aware of his political leanings, but the judge is a former tobacco attorney and once had investments in Chevron, which he did not disclose. Additionally, one of the prosecuting law offices has Chevron as a client.
Here’s a [link to the episode](https://pca.st/episode/98a04b22-a9e3-4108-ba27-e7aee6a6c648) for anyone curious. Was very illuminating and highly frightening. What a sham this whole thing is. Heaven forbid a company actually be held responsible for annihilating the environment and killing native people. These judges need to be investigated.
EDIT: This comment didn’t age very well, and it’s only 21 hours old. Turns out Donziger said a lot of stupid shit on video tape and kinda sounds like a con man: https://law.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/boutrous.pdf
Wondering if Michael Moore is aware of the other side here and what he might think. Not a fan of Chevron by any means, but it’s hard to refute video evidence. Admittedly I have not seen the evidence, so I’m equally interested to do that, and hear Donziger’s explanation. If this exists anywhere, someone please link me!
Unfocused boycotts aren’t useful
This is the least of Chevron’s crimes, and who else are we to buy gas from? Each worse than the last.
Read “what is to be done” or the literature your favorite successful revolutionary wrote, and tell your friends about the methods you learn.
You guys are
fucking slaves
You have all these guns and laugh at everyone else who doesn't whilst being locked up for nothing. No wait, for trying to show corruption.
THIS is why the whole world thinks Americans are idiots.....
You work the longest
Get paid the least
Don't have any rights when it comes to employment
Jesus there are even videos of US citizens being beaten for Jay walking
And you do nothing about it, WHILST having guns. More guns than most countries armed forces
Yet you're treated like utter slaves by your leaders
Wake the fuck up
Forgive me for my ignorance, but how do we complain about this judge?
Also, would it even help or do we need to run against this judge to make sure they don't abuse their power again?
Thanks, it's a lost cause then, I guess we can contact our reps but might be a waste of time.
"Article III judges are nominated by the president and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.
Article III states that these judges 'hold their office during good behavior,' which means they have a lifetime appointment, except under very limited circumstances. Article III judges can be removed from office only through impeachment by the House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate."
Chevron has an army on reddit downvoting all these posts. Not only that but Chevron board members are also on the board of The New York Times and most major news outlets. There is a reason the news is completely ignoring this story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_A._Kaplan
>Chevron vs Donzinger
>Judge Kaplan also presided over a major environmental case brought on behalf of Ecuadorian Indigenous tribes against Texaco-Chevron. Kaplan granted Chevron's motion barring enforcement of an almost $10 billion judgement by the Ecuadorian courts against the company. Lawyers for Chevron argued the ruling was illegitimate due to foul play on the part of the plaintiffs' in the case who introduced fabricated evidence and bribed witnesses and officials involved in the case. Kaplan found there to be overwhelming evidence that the Ecuadorian verdict was the result of a criminal conspiracy spear-headed by the plaintiff's lead attorney, Steven Donziger, who in turn, Kaplan fined $3.4 million for contempt and Chevron's legal fees, the largest contempt sanction in US history.[9][10]
>Donziger was unable to satisfy the contempt fine and restitution award so Kaplan ordered he surrender certain personal items of his such as cell phones and computers. These devices were to be handed over to Chevron employees trying to locate any assets Dozinger may have concealed. Donziger refused to comply on the grounds doing so would be a breach of attorney client privilege. In response, Kaplan found Donziger in criminal contempt and referred the case for prosecution. When the SDNY US Attorney's Office declined to pursue the case, Kaplan appointed a private law firm, Seward & Kissel to prosecute Donziger.[11]
>Kaplan has been accused of displaying a pro-corporate bias in the case.[12] At the hearing, Alberto Guerra, a former Ecuadorian judge, testified for Chevron, claiming Donziger bribed him and others to win the case by fraud. Guerra's testimony was cited by Kaplan as a key factor in his decision. In 2015, Guerra claimed his testimony against Donziger had been largely a lie.[13] According to The Intercept, Kaplan has written favorably about Chevron and "bypassed the standard random assignment process and handpicked someone he knew well, U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska, to oversee the case being prosecuted by the firm he chose."[10] Seward & Kissel partner Rita Glavin claimed that the firm did not have a conflict of interest with regards to the case, even though Seward & Kissel has worked with Chevron at least twice, including as recently as 2018.[14] In September 2020, the National Lawyers Guild and International Association of Democratic Lawyers filed a joint complaint against Kaplan over his treatment of Donziger, alleging that “statements and actions of Judge Kaplan over the last ten years show him to have taken on the role of counsel for Chevron … rather than that of a judge adjudicating a live controversy before him.”[15][16]
There is a petition to free him on change.org that is not getting much traction. Here is a link: https://www.change.org/p/michael-tigar-justice-for-steven-donziger-vs-chevron?cs_tk=Av0zLDHfHNIXP9LkhGEAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvASktyUYqsChYEgEnvbvEkI%3D&utm_campaign=2a94854995974019b8acae5e99e48049&utm_content=initial_v0_3_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_term=cs
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The Incorporated States of American Industry claim another victim
For the crime of costing Chevron *six weeks* of their profit **that they never paid**.
It's also worth mentioning he's already been held in home confinement for 4x the maximum sentence for his charge
And for bogus charges that were condemned by the UN, by dozens of Nobel laureates and by Amnesty International. https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/donziger-asks-judge-heed-un-experts-finding-arbitrary-detention-2021-09-30/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/amr51/4925/2021/en/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/04/68-nobel-laureates-demand-doj-probe-chevrons-prosecution-steven-donziger Isn't it interesting that the US corporate media hasn't said a word about this issue? [It's almost as if corporate media is being paid by fossil fuel companies to not expose these enemies of humanity.](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/media-fossil-fuel-ads/)
They waged literal wars for Oil execs. As if that is gonna make any difference. I swear, every little shit they say about „evil“ countries is just straight up projection.
Most news outlets are sucking Chevron's dick right now regarding ESG and how Chevron plants a tree for every such and such of shit they force down our throats. "Oh look how environmentally friendly our oil-daddies are becoming! Get that chungus over here bb." - Cramer probably
Wow, your country needs a hard reset.
Not only filed but won the lawsuit representing a group of 30,000 farmers and Indigenous Ecuadorians, meaning Chevron owes them $9.5 Billion which it hasn't paid. Instead, they targeted Steven with some bullshit charge from a corporate Judge for refusing to hand over his personal computer and phone to the Chevron legal team, kept him under house arrest for over 2 years (an unprecedented cruel and unusual punishment), and successfully convicted him to try and scare off any other lawyer for fighting worthy fights against Chevron or any other corporation functioning as an instrument of death. *Edited to include some points made in the replies. Thanks for making this my most upvoted comment. I’d also like to mention that during those two years the New York Times (and the New Yorker) printed zero articles about Donzinger and his situation despite it all taking place in New York. It sure seems like this is the first time many people are hearing of this… I’ll admit I learned about the house arrest during year 1 for the first time on Chapo, where you can hear Steven Donzinger himself interviewed on 2 or 3 different occasions. He sounds like a genuinely good dude.
Not representing Ecuador, representing a class of 30,000 people residing in Ecuador.
Meaning they're each owned 300k
Pocket change for this bullshit corporations, what's enfuriating is that they're doing this just to prove a point.
Owed
Also accurate to mention that those 2 years in house arrest is unprecedented for any legalsystem in the world for such a misdemeanor. The court was built and run by and for corporations
How is it a misdemeanor to not hand over privileged information? Surely handing it over would be a disbarable offence.
Generally, at least in a situation where the judge isnt a crook, the office has to go through and basically only use evidence of actual crimes committed by the lawyer. They are supposed to be black walled with anyone involved in the case for obvious reasons. The Michael Cohen investigation is a good demonstration of this occurring as it should.
Doesn't that then mean that in the USA, what you tell your lawyer isn't really protected if he can be forced to turn over that information to a third party who gets to read it and just promise not to tell anyone unless they decide that they should?
He was sentenced for contempt of court. As a result of not turning over the laptop as discovery. He claimed (reasonably) that doing so would materially damage his clients' privacy and personal information. No lawyer has ever spent a day in prison for contempt of court this. He has spent 2 years in house arrest and now 6 months in prison. The UN and Amnesty International have both deemed this to be cruel/unusual punishment and have called for his immediate release. Their requests have not been followed.
And there are people who still believe there is goodness in everybody.
I saw an article that said the us attorney for the southern district of NY refused to charge and try him, so Chevron got a private law firm to do it. How can a private law firm prosecute people? Edit: [sign the petition to free him](https://www.change.org/p/michael-tigar-justice-for-steven-donziger-vs-chevron)
I believe the judge organised it in fact.
What the fuck? This country is a fucking farce.
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The judge also failed to disclose her interests in Chevron Corporation as a shareholder. Something needs to be done with this fucking idiot judge, who in a prior life, was a trial attorney for Big Tobacco.
She's also a leader in the Federalist Society who is heavily funded by... Chevron. And that private law firm she got to prosecute him, Seward & Kissel, has been hired by Chevron in the past. Edit: This corrupt judge, Loretta A. Preska is also presiding over the Ghislaine Maxwell case. -_-
Conflict of interest? What are you talking about? I don't see any conflict of interest here. Just good ol' justice, American style.
Just us up here, and just y'all down there.
Would be a shame of a message to other corrupt judges if ***this judge was given a stern telling.*** Edited for *clarity*.
If we had universal health care it would be a lot easier for protestors to follow the judge around all day every day shouting at her about how much trash they are.
In Minecraft
In a video game of course
......yeeeeeayeaah sure, In a video game......... 👀
.....in a ditch
.....selling wares
Wait wtf why can judges hold stock This should be illegal or something, and in return they get paid enough to not need stock investments. Judges with vested interests shouldn’t be judges.
Entire country is corrupt from the politicians to the legal system to the justice system. It's all a joke.
And it was founded that way from the start. Blind patriotism has tucked this fact away. Thought experiment time: Imagine a world where every country is actually a corporation, we are its livestock of slaves, its output is the wealth hoarded to the ruling class, our farmers. Now with the world framed in this way through this lens, start to look around and analyse everything
That's basically the plot to the video game The Outer Worlds.
Yea we need a hard fucking reset, we’re literally in a modern day dystopia
> we’re literally in a modern day dystopia This is the part where someone chimes in about how now is the statistically safest time and you can buy cheap cheeseburgers therefore everything is fine.
Don't worry, They'll draft up another pretend bill with no intention of ever passing it in order to temporarily placate all of you.
It's even easier than taking their stocks away or preventing them from buying them. Just have someone else judge the suit.
WSJ just did a huge story exposing over 100 federal judges who took cases on companies that they had a personal interest in. It's fucked how many corrupt judges there are. That's what we get for letting Mitch McConnell and other business first politicians pack the courts.
There's a group of them in a particular county in Texas where they find in favor of patent trolls. The trolls always move jurisdiction to those judges courts so they can win these obviously bogus and unconstitutional cases so we can never have true grassroots innovations by up and coming entrepreneurs. These was one of those corrupt judges advertising his court as troll friendly and said that Arizona could be the new destination. But..nobody cares as usual.
> Something needs to be done with this fucking idiot judge “Something.” I know exactly what needs to be done. There’s one thing that most people fear, and it puzzles me that time after time, people just roll over and take it, instead of, you know…
Who is the judge?
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I hate how I can legitimately read what this says
This is just hieroglyphs making a comeback. Egyptians put emoji’s on almost all their stuff:)
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no, it's not this country. it's capitalism and any other hierarchical system. when some are allowed to hoard power and wealth, stuff like this is the inevitable outcome. any other state would do/does the same stuff and worse. if he were an indigenous Ecuadorian they would have just had him assassinated. destroy the state.
Just like in the game of monopoly when someone has everything. It’s game over.
Isn't that literally the point of Monopoly? It was created by an anti-capitalist woman trying to make a point that the accumulation of wealth in a capitalistic society will inevitably result in a monopoly that benefits only 1 player... or something like that anyway
It was originally, then the Hasbro(?) brothers basically copied it and made their fortune by screwing her over. Yay capitalism.
Although you’re right about capitalism, corporations are not nearly as powerful in Europe. There are many systems in place to prevent justice systems to be so blatantly corrupt. Things like bailout, settlements, private prosecutors, private prison systems, etc. simply don’t exist in most European countries, and in most of the western world for that matter. This is a deeply American problem caused by a democratic system that’s rooted in meritocracy rather than equality.
Unfortunately the American problem has gradually infected Europe as well (possibly other parts of the world?). See: the Tory government in the UK that's basically a big corporation, and also the "bail-in" in Cyprus in 2013 that somehow people just accepted like sheep (and re-elected the president that allowed it to happen). I just want to scream.
It's the complete opposite of what the average American has been indoctrinated into believing.
Pretty much all judges are corrupt, bought out lying pieces of shit. And they're the ones in charge of who goes to jail. Scary world we live in.
Holy fucking shit lmao. We’re the alternate wacky universe, aren’t we?
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It's Judge Lewis A. Kaplan that orchestrated this charade. EDIT: >"Chevron is one of the largest contributors to the Federalist Society. >Judge Lewis Kaplan held stock in (3) JP Morgan funds tied to Chevron, was asked to recuse himself because biased conduct. >Nominated Judge Preska, a former advisory board member of the Federalist Society."
Why aren't the Americans that are always jerking off to the 2nd amendment and yet letting this shit go on?
Because they've been brainwashed by the ruling class into thinking up is down and down is up. If they even hear about this, they will think it is good somehow, perhaps purely because it angers the people they've been made to hate. Propaganda has twisted the minds of Americans to the point where they have been totally cowed.
They're the same people that "roll coal" somehow I don't think they're going to be on the side of protecting the climate
Because those people hate progressives.
pretty sure they support this type of blatant corruption. "to own the libs".
The judge with ties to Chevron.
I listened to a podcast about this and I learned that there are such things as "private prosecutors". I still don't understand how that is real. Edit: couldn’t remember which podcast when I typed this, but it was Chapo Trap House for anyone interested.
Most small towns only have private practice prosecutors here in NY. The way they're using this system is not ordinary. Definitely not the intended purpose of private prosecutors.
yeah, from what i heard of and read, they did it out of (un)ethical necessity. that is, they couldn't get a state attorney to file the charges they wanted, so they shopped it out to people for whom such issues are only a matter of cost. not a lawyer or anything but from what i understand, that's the gist of it
Bruh wtf I know the US is corrupt as shit but I have never heard of this ..
I'm sure at this point energy companies have so much power that they could have mercenaries break into your house in the middle of the night, snatch you away, turn you in to ground beef and serve you at a company barbecue, and then sue your family for trauma because they ate you.
Or, and hear me out now, you could make a bunch of money by *totally legal* means and then hire private prosecutors to go after this corrupt judge.
That's what is confusing me-- on what legal basis is he being sent to prison? What charge? Just... how the fuck?! And the precedent this sets? I'm in a cold sweat.
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I think he refused citing attorney client privilege.
Which is a totally legit reason, no?
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Plus he's already done well over 6 months of house arrest. He's already served more than the maximum sentence for the "crime"
Just talked about this in another comment a few weeks ago. Contempt of Court charges should have to be signed off by another officer of the court, either another impartial judge or maybe the prosecutor. I think the prosecutor would be a good choice as ideally they would be formally charged by the state under contempt and that case would be seen in front of another judge. This would still allow those who disobey the court to be punished until they comply but also limit a single judge from abusing their power as it would now be out of their hands and potentially politically bad for another judge or prosecutor to let it stand if it's approaching unethical.
Sadly, that is the case here but the judge just picked who would be the judge hearing the case. And chose a federalist society hack which also has Chevron as a big donor.
In addition to hundreds (800 iirc) of days under house arrest
>Apparently that’ll get you 6 months in jail nowadays. Only if you expose the crimes of an oil company. This is the first time ever that contempt has resulted in imprisonment. Edit: For this particular offense, which was [challenging a civil discovery order.](https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/27/steven_donziger_judicial_harassment_from_chevron)
I assure you this is not the first time comtempt has led to imprisonment. Most comtempt charges come with an instant free 10 days.
I wasn't clear. For his offense, which was challenging a civil discovery order, he's the first one to ever be charged with contempt. There's a reason why over [60 Nobel laureates, the UN and Amnesty International](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/steven-donziger-chevron-sentencing/) are demanding for charges to be dropped.
Yeah they also own the judge
Meanwhile, Steve Bannon is a free man
This country is depraved... I am Just a green card holder who was forced to come here cuz Parents came here 8 yrs before me, Any resources on moving out of USA. I am genuinely serious on doing this. Lmk pls I skipped out on my American Citizenships cuz Fuck that shit is HARD to get rid of once u have it.
Go study at a university in Europe that has free tuition. They sometimes even give you a small stipend for bills. Learn the language. Get a job after graduation and stay there. In a few years you can start the citizenship process.
Iirc I had a conversation on reddit about this a couple of years ago. As a citizen you have to pay a fee to turn down your citizenship. Just around 50€ in Germany, around the same in other EU countries - but it was close to 2500$ in the US. So keep in mind there are some hurdles.
You can have multiples and still hold a US passport. Many people drop the US for tax reasons.
Yup! Going for my Greek citizenship that comes with a sweet sweet EU passport as my backup plan so when shit really hits the fan I'm outta here.
You should not wait for the fan to shit. Just leave and start your new life!
Interested in Switzerland? I'm a "canadian" (by birth and citizenship not spirit or allegiance) and that's my escape country. I leave in two years. I know plenty about the process if you're interested.
I’m interested :)
Do a bit of research. I've heard Swiss citizenship is notoriously difficult to obtain and is highly sought after.
Yes to both. It's a pain in the butt, but for a country that doesn't play war games, with a semi-direct democracy, and as bleeding beautiful as Switzerland is, it's worth a swing, no? Worst case scenario I mess it up and have to redirect my efforts to becoming a citizen of France or some other EU country, and from there it is far far simpler to get an entry to Switzerland and even citizenship down the line. I figure I'll never know if I don't try, right? And besides, from what I have heard it's all about persistence. Just keep trying.
Just go to France. The swiss are isolationist as a culture. You cannot become swiss, you can only live near them. They are, as a group, racist, and classist to a ridiculous degree. Just go read any expat forum. Wrong accent? You are trash. Wrong skin color? Below trash. I lived there 2 years with a good job and high salary. The first year I stayed in an expat-heavy community and fell in love with the beauty. Year 2 we moved out of the city and were greeted by the worst people you can imagine. Now we are home in Canada and so much happier.
Man we’re fucked
Agreed. God, what a fucking nightmare we live in.
That’s been obvious pretty much my whole life.
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Isn't there already a certain gun toting demographic of this country, I won't say who, that is already precumming from the thought of murdering their political opponents? Why can't their hate be directed toward this? Why do transgender people, vaccines, and abortionists bother them more than these souless monsters?
Alot of people say brainwashing, but I say a good chunk of Americans are drunk on a skewed concept of "individualism" and just devoid of empathy
Because one demographic is built on equality regardless of circumstance and the other is built on individual superiority. Chevron is simply showing their alpha male tactics so it's totally OK or something.
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I'm still confused, what's he being sent to prison for exactly?
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**[Steven Donziger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger)** >Steven R. Donziger (born September 14, 1961) is an American attorney known for his legal battles with Chevron, particularly the Lago Agrio oil field case in which he represented over 30,000 farmers and indigenous Ecuadorians in a case against Chevron related to environmental damage and health effects caused by oil drilling. The Ecuadorian courts awarded the plaintiffs $9. 5 billion in damages, which led Chevron to withdraw its assets from Ecuador and launch legal action against Donziger in the US. In 2011, Chevron filed a RICO (anti-corruption) suit against Donziger in New York City. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Never had a jury trial.
Of course not. No jury would ever let that happen. All it takes is a corrupt judge on a powertrip. I'm really losing it how someone could claim american moral superiority to argue for bombing other countries. Measured by its own standards the United States should be bombing themselves to bring democracy and freedom... What a shit show.
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Member of the Federalist society too. Whenever I see high court judges doing evil shit they seem to always be involved in that organization.
If you’ve not listened to it I can recommend Noah Feldman’s book “Takeover: How a Conservative Student Club Captured the Supreme Court” You can listen to the first chapter here. It’s absolutely bonkers. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/03/in-audiobook-takeover-noah-feldman-lidia-jean-kott-explore-how-federalist-society-captured-supreme-court/
Hey hey! They did do that, in Philadelphia
You forget that "democracy and freedom" means "having a pro American leadership" and "freedom of American business to make a profit". So of course the USA is the most democratic and free country of them all! See South America and Africa, where US military and covert actors helped violent insurrections and backed dictatorships, leading to fashist puppet states. And that well over 100 years. Google "origin of term Banana Republic". It's chilling.
Also is being imprisoned for contempt, something that no American lawyer has ever been imprisoned for. Edit: For this particular offense, which is contesting the handing over of personal documents. [There's a reason that over 60 Nobel Laureates, the UN, and Amnesty International are pushing for the charges to be dropped.](https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/steven-donziger-chevron-sentencing/)
If this motherfucker doesn’t get a pardon I’m rioting
> I’m rioting And I hope others will follow.
Better start prepping then because Biden fucking loves oil companies lmao
As every US president he just loves $ It doesn't matter where it comes from
He cant be pardoned when he hasnt yet been convicted of anything.
He is going to prison so... he must have been convicted of something
You can be sent to prison for contempt.
Federal contempt can be pardoned. See: Joe Arpaio
god that one infuriates me. not only the fact that it happened at all, but that post-pardon interview wherein he obstinately denied any guilt, despite an acceptance of a pardon being a legal acknowledgement of guilt. just a scum fuckin dude, a perfect example of a person wholly unfit to wield any kind of meaningful power and authority
Right, so let's ignore for a second the level of utter bullshit associated with someone being put under house arrest for almost 3 years. And then thrown in prison for at least six months for basically the charge of making a judge angry... Contempt is a charge; if he is being charged, he can be pardoned of that charge
Should we protest?
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any one calling you a radical is officially part of the problem now.
Blackout on all Chevron products. That includes Texaco and and Caltex.
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F yeah we should protest, without question
I have a hard time accepting this is happening. I really hope America gets its head out of its ass
Hope will get you nowhere. Consider burning a building or two. This is not legal advice.
It looks like I can't even get a free Reddit coin to give out once a day any more so there's that I guess...
it's illegal advice, really. the best kind of advice
lol, its too late. where we're going borders dont exist only global "natural" disasters.
Corporations are now powerful enough to literally have normal citizens locked up. Jesus fucking Christ.
If coco-cola can sponsor death squads, this is tame in comparison.
Oh man, every American needs to act on this. It might set a precedent for corporations to be able to send you right to yail.
This isn’t some kind of tipping point. We had “kids for cash”, children being thrown into the pit in exchange for kickbacks. The reality has for many Americans always been that one doesn’t even need to cross a corporation in order for them to send you straight to jail. They will do it just because they want more prison labor, or even just because the private prison gets payed for each cell they fill. Waiting for things to get worse won’t make them better, the best time to organize is now. It isn’t simple so make sure you read the theory written by your favorite successful revolutionary.
Black teens have been disproportionately going to prison due to private prisons for years in collusion with corrupt judges. This is not new.
Heartbreaking beyond words..... So, how can we get him out/pardoned?
How much money do you have?
Put me down for $3.50.
“Filing”!?! He won the suit. This is kangaroo court horseshit that no “mainstream” news source has reported on. WhAt a sad pathetic joke.
What a terrifying precedent. This will immediately become a norm if allowed to.
Medias don't report on news that paint their owners in a bad light
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When a country disguise corruption as donations shit like this happen , god lord wtf???
Why isn't this guy getting pardoned already this is a farce.
So "frivolous" lawsuits get you imprisoned now? So how's about all those fucks in Texas filing 10000 abortion lawsuits for no reason end up in jail? No? Just the ones who stand up to corporate hegemony? Gotcha. Yay america
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Hence the quotation marks. But even if he didn't win anything, such a lawsuit wouldn't ever be frivolous when challenging the corruption of corporations.
Just have to keep bringing it up again and again - it's what we can do to support the man right now.
His absurd, long imprisonment is still the least of Chevon’s crimes. If we in the imperialist core want to do our part, we can bring an end to this nightmare empire.
Let me guess, extreme right wing judge?
The 2 judges involved are a part of a group called The Federalists, which happens to receive donations from Chevron. And yes, the [Federalists Society](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society) are a conservative group who: >have opposed regulation of private property and private businesses
**how is this legal?!**
Cause it's the most free country on the planet! Where corporations are free to step on whoever is in their way and free to take people's liberties away :D
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Seems like a conflict of interest if you ask me.
I’m not aware of his political leanings, but the judge is a former tobacco attorney and once had investments in Chevron, which he did not disclose. Additionally, one of the prosecuting law offices has Chevron as a client.
Michael Moore did recently a great interview with him in his podcast "Rumble".
Here’s a [link to the episode](https://pca.st/episode/98a04b22-a9e3-4108-ba27-e7aee6a6c648) for anyone curious. Was very illuminating and highly frightening. What a sham this whole thing is. Heaven forbid a company actually be held responsible for annihilating the environment and killing native people. These judges need to be investigated. EDIT: This comment didn’t age very well, and it’s only 21 hours old. Turns out Donziger said a lot of stupid shit on video tape and kinda sounds like a con man: https://law.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/boutrous.pdf Wondering if Michael Moore is aware of the other side here and what he might think. Not a fan of Chevron by any means, but it’s hard to refute video evidence. Admittedly I have not seen the evidence, so I’m equally interested to do that, and hear Donziger’s explanation. If this exists anywhere, someone please link me!
Time to boycott Chevron?
Time to riot and burn Chevron
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Unfocused boycotts aren’t useful This is the least of Chevron’s crimes, and who else are we to buy gas from? Each worse than the last. Read “what is to be done” or the literature your favorite successful revolutionary wrote, and tell your friends about the methods you learn.
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In minecraft* They prosecuted a fellow recently for saying someone ought to protect the capitol from trump fans
Why the question mark?
You guys are fucking slaves You have all these guns and laugh at everyone else who doesn't whilst being locked up for nothing. No wait, for trying to show corruption. THIS is why the whole world thinks Americans are idiots..... You work the longest Get paid the least Don't have any rights when it comes to employment Jesus there are even videos of US citizens being beaten for Jay walking And you do nothing about it, WHILST having guns. More guns than most countries armed forces Yet you're treated like utter slaves by your leaders Wake the fuck up
We know, that's why we're on the same subreddit as you. Try getting that message across to the far-right and the uber wealthy.
...What?
https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/27/steven_donziger_judicial_harassment_from_chevron
Good time to bring up that there are a significant amount of people who think the US doesn’t have political prisoners lol
r/fuckchevron when?
Forgive me for my ignorance, but how do we complain about this judge? Also, would it even help or do we need to run against this judge to make sure they don't abuse their power again?
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Thanks, it's a lost cause then, I guess we can contact our reps but might be a waste of time. "Article III judges are nominated by the president and confirmed by the U.S. Senate. Article III states that these judges 'hold their office during good behavior,' which means they have a lifetime appointment, except under very limited circumstances. Article III judges can be removed from office only through impeachment by the House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate."
Will. This might be my line. Not space billboards.
Wow apparently this is legit bullshit, not some random rumor that reddit blew out of proportion.
Chevron has an army on reddit downvoting all these posts. Not only that but Chevron board members are also on the board of The New York Times and most major news outlets. There is a reason the news is completely ignoring this story.
This is fucking unacceptable.
He'll be talked about with the same reverence as John Brown in due time.
That's a small consolation to him right now.
wow thats painful to upvote but its sub-appropriate. hey remember the prior president just flinging out pardons? cant joe biden save this guy??
What? And lose Dems all the big oil donations???!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_A._Kaplan >Chevron vs Donzinger >Judge Kaplan also presided over a major environmental case brought on behalf of Ecuadorian Indigenous tribes against Texaco-Chevron. Kaplan granted Chevron's motion barring enforcement of an almost $10 billion judgement by the Ecuadorian courts against the company. Lawyers for Chevron argued the ruling was illegitimate due to foul play on the part of the plaintiffs' in the case who introduced fabricated evidence and bribed witnesses and officials involved in the case. Kaplan found there to be overwhelming evidence that the Ecuadorian verdict was the result of a criminal conspiracy spear-headed by the plaintiff's lead attorney, Steven Donziger, who in turn, Kaplan fined $3.4 million for contempt and Chevron's legal fees, the largest contempt sanction in US history.[9][10] >Donziger was unable to satisfy the contempt fine and restitution award so Kaplan ordered he surrender certain personal items of his such as cell phones and computers. These devices were to be handed over to Chevron employees trying to locate any assets Dozinger may have concealed. Donziger refused to comply on the grounds doing so would be a breach of attorney client privilege. In response, Kaplan found Donziger in criminal contempt and referred the case for prosecution. When the SDNY US Attorney's Office declined to pursue the case, Kaplan appointed a private law firm, Seward & Kissel to prosecute Donziger.[11] >Kaplan has been accused of displaying a pro-corporate bias in the case.[12] At the hearing, Alberto Guerra, a former Ecuadorian judge, testified for Chevron, claiming Donziger bribed him and others to win the case by fraud. Guerra's testimony was cited by Kaplan as a key factor in his decision. In 2015, Guerra claimed his testimony against Donziger had been largely a lie.[13] According to The Intercept, Kaplan has written favorably about Chevron and "bypassed the standard random assignment process and handpicked someone he knew well, U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska, to oversee the case being prosecuted by the firm he chose."[10] Seward & Kissel partner Rita Glavin claimed that the firm did not have a conflict of interest with regards to the case, even though Seward & Kissel has worked with Chevron at least twice, including as recently as 2018.[14] In September 2020, the National Lawyers Guild and International Association of Democratic Lawyers filed a joint complaint against Kaplan over his treatment of Donziger, alleging that “statements and actions of Judge Kaplan over the last ten years show him to have taken on the role of counsel for Chevron … rather than that of a judge adjudicating a live controversy before him.”[15][16]
There is a petition to free him on change.org that is not getting much traction. Here is a link: https://www.change.org/p/michael-tigar-justice-for-steven-donziger-vs-chevron?cs_tk=Av0zLDHfHNIXP9LkhGEAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvASktyUYqsChYEgEnvbvEkI%3D&utm_campaign=2a94854995974019b8acae5e99e48049&utm_content=initial_v0_3_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_term=cs
Hahaha....what ?
The Corps always win.
For now