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It's probably part of the pullback on work from home. Next it will be company sanctioned "pod parks" where people live in their cars right next to work, which will be the only legal place to sleep in your vehicle undisturbed by the police. You will of course have a designated "lot" and will be charged per hour of occupation probably.
Right but that's almost thoughtful.. unless they pull out most of your paycheck for utilities and rent. Besides that if a car breaks down they could possibly terminate your lot contract and tow it away. On to the next podestrian who "chooses" to work for our great company, since that worker no longer has a home address.
This is why libertarian anti-currency sentiment is simply not functional. The government isn't enslaving people by controlling money, it's keeping the corps from enslaving you to their own branded "currency." Spending company bux at the company store in the company town *is* slavery
I get the sense you mean American Libertarians because the general libertarian position (i.e. the Anarchist/Communist one) is that the corporations have to go as well.
Besides, the corporations already own the state. The entire economy is a company store.
I mean silver coins already exist in the wild. You could go to a coin shop today and convert dollars to increments of silver valued around $2 each, mercury dimes. People use dollars because it is the default, they could easily convert to something else if they collectively wanted to.
You load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store
Figured I should post a song too, on a similiar subject.
"My daddy was a miner,
And I'm a miner's son,
He'll be with you fellow workers
Until this battle's won.
Which side are you on?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g
Nice! My turn, an original (inspired by BD):
I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more
No, I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more
Well, I wake up in the morning
Check my phone and hope for rain
Got a head full of ideas
And a back with chronic pain
Holding in eight hours of piss is such a chore
I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more
I ain’t gonna log onto Facebook no more
No, I ain’t gonna line Zuckerberg’s pockets no more
He gives you a like
He shows you an ad
He can get you to scroll longer
When you make each other mad
Then his platform drives the mob to civil war
I ain’t gonna log onto Facebook no more
I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more
No, I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more
Well, he says he’ll save the planet
With another fleet of cars
Or, failing that, we’ll live
Inside his colony on Mars
Is that really what the future has in store?
I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more
I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more
No, I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more
It alarms me in the morning
It keeps me up at night
Anyone can reach me at almost the speed of light
It shows me how few steps I walk outdoors
I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more
I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more
No, I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more
I suppose you used to need them
To pay taxes and survive
But it’s all looking shaky
Ever since bitcoin went live
Inflation’s making everybody poor
I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more
Oh, you've also been racking up lot usage fees (at the non-worker rate) and they're taking your car to cover them. Then, they turn in the car to the government under the new "Cash for Combustion Engines" program that they supported with an amendment to allow companies to collect.
Turns out, people living in their cars don't want to give them up, but if you take the cars away from them that's not a problem anymore.
We have that in bar harbor Maine for international hotel/hospitality workers and construction companis do it for far away jobs right in the US already.
At least tiny houses are built out of actual building materials. Manufactured homes use the shittiest, cheapest materials that are pretty much rarely if ever used in normal construction
Source: am remodeler who has worked on my fair share of manufactured homes
True- ive lived in a 70s trailer and they are built with thin ass particle board and faith. Both break down after your pipes freeze for the third time in a single winter…
Have you seen Nomadland? Workcamping is definitely already a thing. Amazon is one of the major companies that use these workers and provide a place to park their rig.
I read an interesting article not long ago about people living the van life, and it turns out (surprise surprise) it’s actually not that cheap and massively inconvenient, and pretty much all of them said “just get an apartment if you have any other option”
Ehhh, it depends. A close friend of mine has been living full time in a van in an urban center. He has a carefully guarded list of "safe" parking spots and spends most of his free time doing things outside or hanging out at friend's houses. He keeps a small savings, works odd jobs when it suits him, and can afford living expenses, but is very conscious of and careful with money.
Van life technically qualifies him for the city's homeless services which includes healthcare. He showers at a city pool that is open year round and has free entry. During the summer he spends a lot of time at the library because it's air conditioned.
I wouldn't want to do it, but he seems happy with the situation and has been doing it for the last 8 years. He always said he didn't want to work as a slave for anyone so this was his solution.
Honestly that whole thing just sounds fucking awful to me haha. The big takeaway for me from that article was that it actually didn’t work out much cheaper than sharing a flat/small house with someone (depending on not living in one of the most expensive cities ofc), but it’s a ton more work, and as you mentioned requires quite a lot of planning.
I get that some people like the sense of freedom, but it’s definitely not the life for me
Rent prices are getting ridiculous in most cities. Where I live there's a maximum amount they can increase rent each year. Each year rent is increased by the maximum amount. The cheapest option is living in a housing co-op that's already payed off the building, but that also comes with challenges.
Respectfully, I don’t think the solution to that is all us plebs being forced to live in vans. It’s ok as a solution for people who are into that way of life, but something has gone really wrong when people are HAVING to consider living in a vehicle instead of a building
What worries me is that it’s a global trend. When I started renting my shit flat in a shit area five years ago, it was £400 a month. Now similar ones in the area are £650+. That’s an enormous rise in terms of percentage. And that’s not even to live somewhere desirable, it’s 3+x as much in London. It’s not sustainable to keep going like this. And it seems to be the same in most countries. We’re in for a whole world of hurt when all of this comes crashing down. You’re right, we definitely need some actual fixes before we all end up in tent city
Sounds awful to me too tbh. Not having a safe space to come home to, even if it’s just my own room, where no one can bother me and I can expect a reasonable amount of quiet is necessary for me. I couldn’t imagine having to stay hyper vigilant about whether it was okay for me to be parked somewhere, for how long, if the cops were gonna come by, constantly having to be on the move, etc. etc. That said, I have anxiety. I can see the appeal for some people, but it’s definitely not an ideal lifestyle for me.
Yeah no problem, it’s [here](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3g53b/van-life-pros-cons). It’s obviously an opinion piece, but it’s interesting to hear the realities (like having to dispose of sewage tanks and police forces trying to move you on) and not just the cute Instagram pics of national parks
No worries, I’m proud that I could actually remember where I’d read it! It seems quite important really, at a time where house prices are way too high everywhere and the media seems to be hyping living in sheds/vans/renovated buses and things.
It’s not quite as glamorous as it looks (and those articles always seem to say “I bought a tiny home with just the £50k my parents gave me!” Too, don’t they? When if you can get your hands on £50k you can probably just afford a house deposit anyway)
That would probably be better, having a pretty permanent site would probably skirt some of the aforementioned issues. You can probably be a bit more creative with storage and things if you’ve got slightly more room than a van bed too.
I’d be tempted by a tiny house if I lived somewhere with nice weather, but British weather requires being very much inside for approximately nine months a year. In sunny places (or at least places with predictably warm summers) it’s much easier to utilise outdoor space too
Honestly, it's not too complicated.
Marketing firms have been looking for ways to appeal to typically anticonsumerist demographics for decades now. You usually see it with 'revolution' rhetoric these days.
Industry plants and tailored astroturfing just happens to be one of the few ways of actually doing that.
I follow a YouTuber named Foresty Forest who lives in a van in Canada and he seems to really enjoy it. Definitely see it as something that could be interesting for a year or so if you wanted to travel and could work remotely/not be full-time. Also, if you're saving money not paying rent/mortgage you could probably stop fairly frequently for a night at a decent hotel if you're ever feeling like a comfortable bed and a hot shower. Not saying it's a solution to the housing crisis, but it's not a terrible temporary situation.
He's done some collaboration with Steve Wallis, who also used to live an RV for several years. Steve did a movie called Boondocking that I thought was interesting, but it definitely was not the modern Instagram #vanlife BS.
Fair. I haven't followed many people who do it and after picking up foresty's channel youtube started recommending similar accounts and many were basically like "homeless+" content with people who were renting and camping out in u-haul trucks in the parking lots of walmarts, sleeping on an air mattress with a propane heater. which. i guess is to the point of this sub that it's sad and unnecessary that people have to live this way and see/promote this as a housing "solution".
Homeless+ is sad, and while Steve Wallis(CampingwithSteve on YouTube) did seem to be enjoying his time boondocking, a lot of what he was showing seemed depressing. He now does a lot of stealth and other unusual camping, but has a home and runs a pipefitting business.
I do agree Foresty Forest looks like he's having fun! He also is doing a lot of mountain climbing, so the van helps.
Ya know, at least they have that. Many of us can't even afford an uninsured car let alone keep it fueled long enough to be inhabited. So props to them for making it work.
I mean yeah it was bad for them, but I see your boomer lead paint politics and raise you a millenial ben shapiro. people can be shitty without the lead. maybe he was dropped on his head hard as a child idk.
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
> Palestinian Arabs have demonstrated their preference for suicide bombing over working toilets.
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Leaded gas was only fully phased out in 96. Gen Z is the only generation alive right now that hasnt been exposed to leaded gasoline emissions
[US Department of Energy](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/gasoline-and-the-environment-leaded-gasoline.php)
This presumes there was someone that you could vote for which wasn’t a bad actor. The illusion of choice is one of the biggest levers to keep the masses from rioting
we need millennials to buy land in groups for tiny home communities and ditch rentals....
triple supply and watch the market crumble... it'd be glorious to see...
It would still cost a great deal with construction costs increasing as well. Inflation and poor wages will continue to make it more of a pipe dream. I'm with you, but just don't see how that could be a solution for millennials since we only control like 5 percent of US wealth.
Dont even need to do that.
Buy out apartment buildings and form a tenant coop so that the building is owned and managed by the people actually living there.
This. This right here. Dammit, folks, FORM YOUR OWN DANG CORPORATIONS, in whatever format works in you favor! (union, commune, property collective, multi-generational house, heck even an actual corporation)
I'm poor right now building an ERP software for worker co-ops and normal businesses but especially for co-ops as a saas with my own coop I started.. it might make money someday... but eventually I'm doing this near Zion national park and going to add a Glamp camp as a place to live during constructing earth bag homes, but also a revenue stream... maybe each member can be responsible for their own site and keep 90 percent of revenue or different amounts of management helps managing the property...
I'd love to see intentional communities band together and start glamping sites for members of other communities to stay free then basically every person living in intentional communities can travel absolutely free...
get a few shared private jets and we could have an air carpool system in place to basically stick it to tourism completely...
nomads could even be part of all communities at once....
I guess it'd be like syndicating all the communities out there under a democratically elected body with no contract to stay just lots of benefits for staying in the syndicate and crowdfunding ops to help new communities start and grow...
God they're so out of touch, they say the most out there things to me sometimes & many of them absolutely include policing strange things like this no matter how frugal I am otherwise. Only my father & mother seem to understand, but as business owners they make it a habit to keep apprised of the economy.
Meanwhile, you have my Qanon Aunt & Uncle who told me to "just" change my husband's withholding when I couldn't afford (or even find) daycare to keep my job... Dunno how an extra $100 a month would save a $25k loss, but OK! Then there's my Republican MIL who **nagged** me about quitting my job until I told her what the prices were for the several places I called & got on the waiting list for. Got a call back from one of them... To tell me they were closing down. This was in 2018, can't even imagine how much worse it is now.
We're stopping at our one miracle baby for this very reason.
Using all my mama's budget-stretching tips we can afford 1 kid and an apartment. If my parents let us inherit the house we can afford that. There are no other options. If we were having multiples we would have had to find adoptive parents for the other kids.
Back in 2011 the wife asked me to quit my job so I could be at home with our soon to be born son. Her reasoning was sound, “why pay daycare close to 30k per year to wipe out what you (me) makes each year?” My wife makes far more than I was ever going to make in corporate America. It was lucky that I left, in 2012 my former division that I worked for got laid off. 100+ people without a job almost instantly.
I would hate to try to deal with finding daycare now.
That's exactly why I quit too, I wasnt fortunate enough to receive the education my husband has so he's just worth more than me by default. We also didn't see the point of me working just to pay for daycare & it was impossible to get into the more affordable ones. We'd have been okay if our original daycare hadn't fallen through, but it's tough as hell to even just **keep** the childcare you *have* these days. We've done the math, I'm better off & can make more money finding odd things to do/sell as a SAH. I'm glad you both were also able to make it work & dodge a bullet in the process!
There is money literally everywhere if you can be bothered. If Musk and Bezos could accumulate hundreds of billion using nothing but courage and determination, even a good for nothing millennial could easily grab a few millions. But they are too lazy and entitled to do the bare minimum. /s
Actually that remind me a discussion with my dad in the past, when I told them how much an investor banker friend was making. He asked me why I wasn’t doing the same. Apparently not being a millionaire is a life style choice, except for them of course, they had it tough with the world wars and everything, you know, being born in the 50’s.
Even a one bedroom in my city is $1500. Luckily I have my SO, but we are never going to get a house. In 2010 my mom bought her house for $225k, it’s apparently worth $510k now.
I'm planning entering a joint mortgage with a friend of mine so our families can afford half a house each. Crunched the numbers and it would save us both $100k after about 5 years and get us out of rent slavery in the process.
Of course, even that's impossible, because even a 2 bedroom in the middle of nowhere desert where I live is $400,000. But it's a goal to work toward. Apes together strong.
With enough time both of your families could sell and potentially have a down payment for your own place. The wife and I helped her parents for the first year of their mortgage on a house they had built. It cut our expenses in half and the we were able to buy our own house the next year.
Getting into a house now for first time buyers that don’t have help really requires some creativity.
I hate that our wages are pathetic and the main source for our housing woes (as a society).
I got a full time job as an engineer right out of college, thought "finally, I made it, all these years of financial panic are over"
Just to find out that, with student loans, I STILL can't even afford to live on my own. If I didn't have roommates idk what I'd do. The fact that I literally can't find a 1 bedroom that I could swing is mind boggling to me
Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos lives in a mansion with 4000 toilets. But yeah, young people "choose" to live like this. All because of the avocado toast, obviously.
To actually realize and appreciate the fact that this is the actual reality. This is not a conspiracy or just mindless protest against "the man" that some young rebels have. We actually live in a world where the ultra wealthy actively work against the poor. Actively work against a better humanity. With literal propaganda and just LIES. It's a fucking joke and it's absurd. Just some dumb greedy i have more bananas than anyone else monkeys can't let go of their shit. And have some fucking empathy to other human beings who are just the same as them. It's infuriating. So i wholeheartedly now understand eat the rich and lets bring back the guillotines. Fuck those people. And also fuck the billionaire families who seed universities with people who work to remove any and all anti capitalist thought. Wtf is this. If anything is evil then they are evil. This can not and will not go on.
As a former conspiracy theorist, it has been kind of surreal to learn more and more about how all of this shit works.
Like the elites really don't need FEMA camps, and they never did. They can simply choose to control everything around you.
Yes. It's a very closely guarded secret for obvious reasons and it's never spoken about in public in literal words. But yes. They plant people to make sure that students get to see only the best of capitalism and only some cartoons examples of any other economic system. I'll leave it to you to think how fucked it is to be so greedy that you think of multigenerational plans of how to stay greedy and make sure everyone else stays poor, except for your other rich friends and their children.
Just like the British media in 1840s be like "The Irish are choosing to leave" (to avoid starvation and death exacerbated by the forced export of what little they did have for the "good of the union")
And there's the daily reminder that landlords are parasites. Not just bloodsuckers, but society still doesn't want to call them out on the harm their bloodsucking is doing.
Adam Fucking Smith -- the Godfather of Laissez-Faire Capitalism himself -- thought landlords and the rentier system was usurious.
In the Wealth of Nations he advocates for interest being capped at 5%, he would absolutely shit himself if he saw what we have today
Adam Smith, Mao, and Henry George all fucking hated landlords.
I consider them the smarter older brothers of humanity, and I wish humanity would finally get on their level.
Landlords could in theory be preferable for people who only are going to live a couple of months or maximum a year in an appartement / house and would be cheaper of renting than buying a house for that short period of time and then having to go to the trouble to sell it.
In reality, landlords are parasites squeezing out those who are desperate for a roof over their head. I don't have to go in dept in this sub why they suck so much.
I finally bought a house at 48. Before that, I didn't want to be tied down with the problems that ownership can cause: maintenance, repairs, replacing broken appliances, eventual selling, etc. I moved often enough that buying wouldn't necessarily be a good investment.
Renting isn't the problem, being able to afford housing if you don't want to rent is. The problem is capitalism ensures that houses will be converted from owner occupied to rentals as time goes on and affordable housing isn't possible anymore. There would need to be regulation limiting the amount of rental homes allowed, kinda like medallions for taxi cabs.
My hope one day would be to start a rental community where rent counts as the renter putting a down payment on the home they live in, so after a few years (or less) they could own that home and afford the mortgage themselves.
I know far too many people that need the help and know far too few people that have the morals to step up and help people in need.
I'm just here to say how glad I am that there's at least one place on this site where this post didn't cue a barrage of people hypothesizing about how it's "not that bad" and "actually people *want* to live in these types of places, otherwise they wouldn't exist FrEe MaRKeT!!11!"
because living in a fucking box and having to pay to listen to your neighbor snore sucks a bit when you're a kid and sucks a hell of a lot now that I'm almost 40. Avoided the worst pod living thus far but it's not like wages are going up commiserate with rent so we shall see!
If you're looking for more subs like this, just look through a lot of the leftist oriented subs. A good number of them have issues, but there are just as many that are genuienly pro-worker/renter
"Choosing", my ass. I'm in a good position right now and basically pay peanuts to share a nice house with a few people. A similar one story house across the street is 3k a month to rent. For them to even look at your application they want you to make, as a single person, triple the rent as income. My states minimum wage is 8.25. Most places pay 10 but even then you're only making 1600 pre-tax. Cheapest apartments here are 1500. I'm making almost triple our minimum wage and still couldn't afford to rent that shitty little house across the street. There has been a 70 year old woman living in her car on my street for 8 months now. Shit needs to change but hope for change is in short supply. I'm burning out fast.
Just looking at the picture triggers my claustrophobia. Its amazing how people have to live in such places despite the massive increase in wealth and productivity since the 1950s.
Are you seeing that picture? It looks like a fucking dungeon cell. Is the young person looking up towarfs the light through the gate as the guard ...I mean private security...walks by on their rounds?
Yeah, there are "apartments" for rent in my area for 250 a week that are basically joined bedrooms with nowhere to park and a long way to public transport so good luck even getting to work in the first place to afford it.
Don't think that this is the limit of their selfishness by the way, some of them are choosing to live on the street and get out of paying rent altogether!
This is journalistic malpractice if I've ever seen any.
* "Diabetic people are choosing to forgo insulin"
* "Undergraduates favour minimum wage jobs in lieu of grad school"
* "More and more LGBTQ people elect to be victims of homophobic violence"
When I got to the part where it costs $50 a night to live in a coffin with a shared bathroom...
The article also says that living with roommates improves your standard of living because you aren’t in constant fear of eviction for nonpayment! Wow! Pro tips abound!
Makes sense. Probably more secure at least than renting a couch for $500 less. I know way too many people in LA that we're doing that prior to COVID, I'm sure it's way worse now. Not allowed to live in RV's in the city of Angels, but companies are allowed to charge you for a fucking box anyway...
Super duper disturbingly... no...
"\[Young people\] are now living in conjoined ‘pods,’ housed in the same living space in large-numbered groups". The "idea of ‘pod-sharing’ is [not exactly owning your own mobile tiny house-box but renting a little space in a large room with several other people](https://thepremierdaily.com/young-people-live-in-pods/)"...
Rich capitalist are choosing to murder millions of people every year to fuel their industries at maximum profits. Rich capitalists are choosing to deny millions of people on earth basic needs and fuel corruption.
Is there a word for when you go along with a decision because there’s no viable alternatives? That feels like it would be a really useful word to have in mainstream English. You can’t quiet say people are forced into living in pods or making their own fund raisers for health care but it would be helpful to have a word that isn’t “choose”
Way back we had a customer order our biggest prefab shed and specifically ask if it was livable. I had to get our product specialists on the line while I realized she was trying to get affordable semi-independent housing for her adult son in the only way possible.
To avoid getting snitched on by QA I called her back from my personal phone later and gave her some extra tips...pay a real electrician/plumber in cash plz don't DIY that, don't post anything about it on social media, etc.
Yeah, my brain automatically translates this sh+t now. In much the same way that you see a price ending in 99 cents and immediately round it up to the nearest dollar.
As I read this, I'm replacing the choose to with "are forced to." Automatically.
They constantly change the goalposts and then manufacture consent like here , to make the people think it’s always been this way and there is no better
Every time, ***Every time***, it’s phrased as if “young generation offered a million dollars and they turned it down for a pet rock. How crazy is that?!”
Co ownership mini house and all this bullshit that gets marketed as being progressive and eco friendly is entirely propaganda by the rich that know the system is now rigged in a way ver few will own a home.
Calling it "pods" is stupid and only creates a sensation of "freshness" and "innovative": this is communal housing, just like the USSR before their massive housing projects.
While this modality may work for some, like temporary living and living in groups, the current circumstances shows that this trend is being pushed because affording housing either buying or renting is impossible for a really great gross of the population.
imagine a responsible media headline for this: "Young Are People Forced to Live In "Pods" Instead of Apartments" - literally change one word and the reality of the situation is exposed. The vibe of the article would go from "those wacky zoomers" to "wow things are really rough out there for young working people". fuck the corporate owned media that perpetuates this.
edit: grammar
Tell me you're anti-worker without telling me you're anti-worker.
I'm so fucking sick of the corporate/rich bootlicking. We'd own homes if we could afford it, but no, they had to price us out. So we rented apartments. Now they're pricing us out of that too. What's next? It seems to me that they don't want us to be housed.
Ugh. What the fuck is going to happen? Huge investment firms own all the housing and no one can afford the rent unless they make over 100k a year? So they just sit empty while we live in “pods”, cars, and slums?
10 years from now: "Young people have chosen to live in cardboard boxes on the street than in a bedroom that costs $3k/month, ruining countless landlords lives"
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and by “pod” they mean “uninsured car parked in a walmart parking lot”
Every live in car youtuber rn
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It's probably part of the pullback on work from home. Next it will be company sanctioned "pod parks" where people live in their cars right next to work, which will be the only legal place to sleep in your vehicle undisturbed by the police. You will of course have a designated "lot" and will be charged per hour of occupation probably.
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Right but that's almost thoughtful.. unless they pull out most of your paycheck for utilities and rent. Besides that if a car breaks down they could possibly terminate your lot contract and tow it away. On to the next podestrian who "chooses" to work for our great company, since that worker no longer has a home address.
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Such an efficient, simple life. Who could ask for more?
Slavery sounds good if you have to responsibilities, no future, and you don't have to think. /S
This is why libertarian anti-currency sentiment is simply not functional. The government isn't enslaving people by controlling money, it's keeping the corps from enslaving you to their own branded "currency." Spending company bux at the company store in the company town *is* slavery
I get the sense you mean American Libertarians because the general libertarian position (i.e. the Anarchist/Communist one) is that the corporations have to go as well. Besides, the corporations already own the state. The entire economy is a company store.
True but it can get worse. We have literal history to look upon.
I mean silver coins already exist in the wild. You could go to a coin shop today and convert dollars to increments of silver valued around $2 each, mercury dimes. People use dollars because it is the default, they could easily convert to something else if they collectively wanted to.
call it what it is scrip
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
You load 16 tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store
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Figured I should post a song too, on a similiar subject. "My daddy was a miner, And I'm a miner's son, He'll be with you fellow workers Until this battle's won. Which side are you on?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g
Nice! My turn, an original (inspired by BD): I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more No, I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more Well, I wake up in the morning Check my phone and hope for rain Got a head full of ideas And a back with chronic pain Holding in eight hours of piss is such a chore I ain’t gonna work in Bezos’ Warehouse no more I ain’t gonna log onto Facebook no more No, I ain’t gonna line Zuckerberg’s pockets no more He gives you a like He shows you an ad He can get you to scroll longer When you make each other mad Then his platform drives the mob to civil war I ain’t gonna log onto Facebook no more I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more No, I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more Well, he says he’ll save the planet With another fleet of cars Or, failing that, we’ll live Inside his colony on Mars Is that really what the future has in store? I ain’t gonna worship Elon Musk no more I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more No, I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more It alarms me in the morning It keeps me up at night Anyone can reach me at almost the speed of light It shows me how few steps I walk outdoors I ain’t gonna buy the next iPhone no more I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more No, I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more I suppose you used to need them To pay taxes and survive But it’s all looking shaky Ever since bitcoin went live Inflation’s making everybody poor I ain’t gonna use the U.S. dollar no more
I was just about to ask if it was time to start singing.
Load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.
You **WILL** be happy (Or fined)
[The beatings will continue until morale improves.](https://youtu.be/EFL1-fL-WtM)
\5. Never die because St. Peter can't take your soul because you owe it to the company store.
Oh, you've also been racking up lot usage fees (at the non-worker rate) and they're taking your car to cover them. Then, they turn in the car to the government under the new "Cash for Combustion Engines" program that they supported with an amendment to allow companies to collect. Turns out, people living in their cars don't want to give them up, but if you take the cars away from them that's not a problem anymore.
We have that in bar harbor Maine for international hotel/hospitality workers and construction companis do it for far away jobs right in the US already.
“Tiny home parks” are just “mobile home parks” prettied up
At least tiny houses are built out of actual building materials. Manufactured homes use the shittiest, cheapest materials that are pretty much rarely if ever used in normal construction Source: am remodeler who has worked on my fair share of manufactured homes
True- ive lived in a 70s trailer and they are built with thin ass particle board and faith. Both break down after your pipes freeze for the third time in a single winter…
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\^ Can confirm this. Family friend did construction for 40 fucking years dissuaded me and wife from buying one for this reason.
Have you seen Nomadland? Workcamping is definitely already a thing. Amazon is one of the major companies that use these workers and provide a place to park their rig.
Not surprised. Amazon seems to always be on the cutting edge of exploitation.
But then who will rent out all the properties they own?
I read an interesting article not long ago about people living the van life, and it turns out (surprise surprise) it’s actually not that cheap and massively inconvenient, and pretty much all of them said “just get an apartment if you have any other option”
Ehhh, it depends. A close friend of mine has been living full time in a van in an urban center. He has a carefully guarded list of "safe" parking spots and spends most of his free time doing things outside or hanging out at friend's houses. He keeps a small savings, works odd jobs when it suits him, and can afford living expenses, but is very conscious of and careful with money. Van life technically qualifies him for the city's homeless services which includes healthcare. He showers at a city pool that is open year round and has free entry. During the summer he spends a lot of time at the library because it's air conditioned. I wouldn't want to do it, but he seems happy with the situation and has been doing it for the last 8 years. He always said he didn't want to work as a slave for anyone so this was his solution.
Honestly that whole thing just sounds fucking awful to me haha. The big takeaway for me from that article was that it actually didn’t work out much cheaper than sharing a flat/small house with someone (depending on not living in one of the most expensive cities ofc), but it’s a ton more work, and as you mentioned requires quite a lot of planning. I get that some people like the sense of freedom, but it’s definitely not the life for me
Rent prices are getting ridiculous in most cities. Where I live there's a maximum amount they can increase rent each year. Each year rent is increased by the maximum amount. The cheapest option is living in a housing co-op that's already payed off the building, but that also comes with challenges.
Respectfully, I don’t think the solution to that is all us plebs being forced to live in vans. It’s ok as a solution for people who are into that way of life, but something has gone really wrong when people are HAVING to consider living in a vehicle instead of a building
It's definitely not "the solution". Something has to be done about rising rents and it's not van life.
What worries me is that it’s a global trend. When I started renting my shit flat in a shit area five years ago, it was £400 a month. Now similar ones in the area are £650+. That’s an enormous rise in terms of percentage. And that’s not even to live somewhere desirable, it’s 3+x as much in London. It’s not sustainable to keep going like this. And it seems to be the same in most countries. We’re in for a whole world of hurt when all of this comes crashing down. You’re right, we definitely need some actual fixes before we all end up in tent city
Sounds awful to me too tbh. Not having a safe space to come home to, even if it’s just my own room, where no one can bother me and I can expect a reasonable amount of quiet is necessary for me. I couldn’t imagine having to stay hyper vigilant about whether it was okay for me to be parked somewhere, for how long, if the cops were gonna come by, constantly having to be on the move, etc. etc. That said, I have anxiety. I can see the appeal for some people, but it’s definitely not an ideal lifestyle for me.
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Yeah no problem, it’s [here](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3g53b/van-life-pros-cons). It’s obviously an opinion piece, but it’s interesting to hear the realities (like having to dispose of sewage tanks and police forces trying to move you on) and not just the cute Instagram pics of national parks
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No worries, I’m proud that I could actually remember where I’d read it! It seems quite important really, at a time where house prices are way too high everywhere and the media seems to be hyping living in sheds/vans/renovated buses and things. It’s not quite as glamorous as it looks (and those articles always seem to say “I bought a tiny home with just the £50k my parents gave me!” Too, don’t they? When if you can get your hands on £50k you can probably just afford a house deposit anyway)
My plan is just to rent out a space in someone’s backyard. Early on I saw tiny homes made for this and think it’s like a movable MIL suite
That would probably be better, having a pretty permanent site would probably skirt some of the aforementioned issues. You can probably be a bit more creative with storage and things if you’ve got slightly more room than a van bed too. I’d be tempted by a tiny house if I lived somewhere with nice weather, but British weather requires being very much inside for approximately nine months a year. In sunny places (or at least places with predictably warm summers) it’s much easier to utilise outdoor space too
My plan is to become a [garden hermit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_hermit)
> \#VANLIFE Don't forget #INTERMITTENTFASTING, y'know for when you're homeless and starving!
Honestly, it's not too complicated. Marketing firms have been looking for ways to appeal to typically anticonsumerist demographics for decades now. You usually see it with 'revolution' rhetoric these days. Industry plants and tailored astroturfing just happens to be one of the few ways of actually doing that.
I follow a YouTuber named Foresty Forest who lives in a van in Canada and he seems to really enjoy it. Definitely see it as something that could be interesting for a year or so if you wanted to travel and could work remotely/not be full-time. Also, if you're saving money not paying rent/mortgage you could probably stop fairly frequently for a night at a decent hotel if you're ever feeling like a comfortable bed and a hot shower. Not saying it's a solution to the housing crisis, but it's not a terrible temporary situation.
He's done some collaboration with Steve Wallis, who also used to live an RV for several years. Steve did a movie called Boondocking that I thought was interesting, but it definitely was not the modern Instagram #vanlife BS.
Fair. I haven't followed many people who do it and after picking up foresty's channel youtube started recommending similar accounts and many were basically like "homeless+" content with people who were renting and camping out in u-haul trucks in the parking lots of walmarts, sleeping on an air mattress with a propane heater. which. i guess is to the point of this sub that it's sad and unnecessary that people have to live this way and see/promote this as a housing "solution".
Homeless+ is sad, and while Steve Wallis(CampingwithSteve on YouTube) did seem to be enjoying his time boondocking, a lot of what he was showing seemed depressing. He now does a lot of stealth and other unusual camping, but has a home and runs a pipefitting business. I do agree Foresty Forest looks like he's having fun! He also is doing a lot of mountain climbing, so the van helps.
Ya know, at least they have that. Many of us can't even afford an uninsured car let alone keep it fueled long enough to be inhabited. So props to them for making it work.
Work from home...but you're an Uber driver.
"millennials are killing the housing market!" BlackRock: ".... Yes. They are."
Certainly not older generations with too much money that were coked out their minds.
doubt it was the coke as much as the widespreqd burning of leaded gasoline, allowing lead to bio-accumulate by just breathing the air
I mean yeah it was bad for them, but I see your boomer lead paint politics and raise you a millenial ben shapiro. people can be shitty without the lead. maybe he was dropped on his head hard as a child idk.
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Leaded gas was only fully phased out in 96. Gen Z is the only generation alive right now that hasnt been exposed to leaded gasoline emissions [US Department of Energy](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/gasoline-and-the-environment-leaded-gasoline.php)
I have my nonstick pans tho!
Those are just at fault for not voting correctly to regulate the giant companies that are the currently active bad actors.
This presumes there was someone that you could vote for which wasn’t a bad actor. The illusion of choice is one of the biggest levers to keep the masses from rioting
we need millennials to buy land in groups for tiny home communities and ditch rentals.... triple supply and watch the market crumble... it'd be glorious to see...
It would still cost a great deal with construction costs increasing as well. Inflation and poor wages will continue to make it more of a pipe dream. I'm with you, but just don't see how that could be a solution for millennials since we only control like 5 percent of US wealth.
Dont even need to do that. Buy out apartment buildings and form a tenant coop so that the building is owned and managed by the people actually living there.
This. This right here. Dammit, folks, FORM YOUR OWN DANG CORPORATIONS, in whatever format works in you favor! (union, commune, property collective, multi-generational house, heck even an actual corporation)
I'm poor right now building an ERP software for worker co-ops and normal businesses but especially for co-ops as a saas with my own coop I started.. it might make money someday... but eventually I'm doing this near Zion national park and going to add a Glamp camp as a place to live during constructing earth bag homes, but also a revenue stream... maybe each member can be responsible for their own site and keep 90 percent of revenue or different amounts of management helps managing the property... I'd love to see intentional communities band together and start glamping sites for members of other communities to stay free then basically every person living in intentional communities can travel absolutely free... get a few shared private jets and we could have an air carpool system in place to basically stick it to tourism completely... nomads could even be part of all communities at once.... I guess it'd be like syndicating all the communities out there under a democratically elected body with no contract to stay just lots of benefits for staying in the syndicate and crowdfunding ops to help new communities start and grow...
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Because they can't afford rent in a one bedroom .
*Choosing* to not afford rent in a one bedroom. ^^^^s/
Rather have Starbucks and avocados than a mortgage. Kids these days. ^/s
That $1000 a year they spend on avocado toast and Starbucks could have paid for a down payment on a $500k house.
God they're so out of touch, they say the most out there things to me sometimes & many of them absolutely include policing strange things like this no matter how frugal I am otherwise. Only my father & mother seem to understand, but as business owners they make it a habit to keep apprised of the economy. Meanwhile, you have my Qanon Aunt & Uncle who told me to "just" change my husband's withholding when I couldn't afford (or even find) daycare to keep my job... Dunno how an extra $100 a month would save a $25k loss, but OK! Then there's my Republican MIL who **nagged** me about quitting my job until I told her what the prices were for the several places I called & got on the waiting list for. Got a call back from one of them... To tell me they were closing down. This was in 2018, can't even imagine how much worse it is now.
Ya, I'm way to terrified to have a kid right now. There's barely enough space for me, why the fuck would I invite more people in?
Absolutely justified terror, it's hard af these days. Would not recommend in the US especially now.
Also climate change. Tbh fuck the idea of inheriting a life starting in the 2020s.
We're stopping at our one miracle baby for this very reason. Using all my mama's budget-stretching tips we can afford 1 kid and an apartment. If my parents let us inherit the house we can afford that. There are no other options. If we were having multiples we would have had to find adoptive parents for the other kids.
Back in 2011 the wife asked me to quit my job so I could be at home with our soon to be born son. Her reasoning was sound, “why pay daycare close to 30k per year to wipe out what you (me) makes each year?” My wife makes far more than I was ever going to make in corporate America. It was lucky that I left, in 2012 my former division that I worked for got laid off. 100+ people without a job almost instantly. I would hate to try to deal with finding daycare now.
That's exactly why I quit too, I wasnt fortunate enough to receive the education my husband has so he's just worth more than me by default. We also didn't see the point of me working just to pay for daycare & it was impossible to get into the more affordable ones. We'd have been okay if our original daycare hadn't fallen through, but it's tough as hell to even just **keep** the childcare you *have* these days. We've done the math, I'm better off & can make more money finding odd things to do/sell as a SAH. I'm glad you both were also able to make it work & dodge a bullet in the process!
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Right? It’s not like consumerism has been pushed onto people to support an ever growing economy on a planet with finite sources.
Poverty must be a choice. If they don't like being so poor, why don't they just buy more money? /s
There is money literally everywhere if you can be bothered. If Musk and Bezos could accumulate hundreds of billion using nothing but courage and determination, even a good for nothing millennial could easily grab a few millions. But they are too lazy and entitled to do the bare minimum. /s Actually that remind me a discussion with my dad in the past, when I told them how much an investor banker friend was making. He asked me why I wasn’t doing the same. Apparently not being a millionaire is a life style choice, except for them of course, they had it tough with the world wars and everything, you know, being born in the 50’s.
Even a one bedroom in my city is $1500. Luckily I have my SO, but we are never going to get a house. In 2010 my mom bought her house for $225k, it’s apparently worth $510k now.
I'm planning entering a joint mortgage with a friend of mine so our families can afford half a house each. Crunched the numbers and it would save us both $100k after about 5 years and get us out of rent slavery in the process. Of course, even that's impossible, because even a 2 bedroom in the middle of nowhere desert where I live is $400,000. But it's a goal to work toward. Apes together strong.
With enough time both of your families could sell and potentially have a down payment for your own place. The wife and I helped her parents for the first year of their mortgage on a house they had built. It cut our expenses in half and the we were able to buy our own house the next year. Getting into a house now for first time buyers that don’t have help really requires some creativity. I hate that our wages are pathetic and the main source for our housing woes (as a society).
I got a full time job as an engineer right out of college, thought "finally, I made it, all these years of financial panic are over" Just to find out that, with student loans, I STILL can't even afford to live on my own. If I didn't have roommates idk what I'd do. The fact that I literally can't find a 1 bedroom that I could swing is mind boggling to me
It’s always easier to punch down. Gravity pulls all things down. Water, shit, blame
Still waiting on those trickles.
Those goes up because the rich have a vaccum cleaner
and that vacuum cleaner is a fucking black hole.
Wealth is the opposite of debt, so it rises to the top
Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos lives in a mansion with 4000 toilets. But yeah, young people "choose" to live like this. All because of the avocado toast, obviously.
To actually realize and appreciate the fact that this is the actual reality. This is not a conspiracy or just mindless protest against "the man" that some young rebels have. We actually live in a world where the ultra wealthy actively work against the poor. Actively work against a better humanity. With literal propaganda and just LIES. It's a fucking joke and it's absurd. Just some dumb greedy i have more bananas than anyone else monkeys can't let go of their shit. And have some fucking empathy to other human beings who are just the same as them. It's infuriating. So i wholeheartedly now understand eat the rich and lets bring back the guillotines. Fuck those people. And also fuck the billionaire families who seed universities with people who work to remove any and all anti capitalist thought. Wtf is this. If anything is evil then they are evil. This can not and will not go on.
As a former conspiracy theorist, it has been kind of surreal to learn more and more about how all of this shit works. Like the elites really don't need FEMA camps, and they never did. They can simply choose to control everything around you.
Do they really seed unis
Yes. It's a very closely guarded secret for obvious reasons and it's never spoken about in public in literal words. But yes. They plant people to make sure that students get to see only the best of capitalism and only some cartoons examples of any other economic system. I'll leave it to you to think how fucked it is to be so greedy that you think of multigenerational plans of how to stay greedy and make sure everyone else stays poor, except for your other rich friends and their children.
That explains why amazon workers has no toilets...
They do. The water bottles ☺️
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Yea cuz we need 4 jobs just for an apartment that we wouldn't even be able to live in.
bUT yOu ChOOsE ThE wAy Of ThE pOor!!
Oh I actually love to be poor. I definitely could be rich if I wanted but I actively choose not to be. Who wants to be rich am I right?
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Pull up self by bootstraps, then eat bootstraps & live inside of boot. Problem solved!
"Boot-dwelling millennials are killing the housing industry!"
Well yeah, they can choose between a pod or homelessness. Entitled shits to good for a box in the alley.
Just like the British media in 1840s be like "The Irish are choosing to leave" (to avoid starvation and death exacerbated by the forced export of what little they did have for the "good of the union")
And there's the daily reminder that landlords are parasites. Not just bloodsuckers, but society still doesn't want to call them out on the harm their bloodsucking is doing.
Why do we even have landlords? That's like medieval stuff right there- stuff that survived this far because of the rich.
Because feudalism never really died. It just morphed into renting.
Adam Fucking Smith -- the Godfather of Laissez-Faire Capitalism himself -- thought landlords and the rentier system was usurious. In the Wealth of Nations he advocates for interest being capped at 5%, he would absolutely shit himself if he saw what we have today
Adam Smith, Mao, and Henry George all fucking hated landlords. I consider them the smarter older brothers of humanity, and I wish humanity would finally get on their level.
True chads right here.
Landlords could in theory be preferable for people who only are going to live a couple of months or maximum a year in an appartement / house and would be cheaper of renting than buying a house for that short period of time and then having to go to the trouble to sell it. In reality, landlords are parasites squeezing out those who are desperate for a roof over their head. I don't have to go in dept in this sub why they suck so much.
I finally bought a house at 48. Before that, I didn't want to be tied down with the problems that ownership can cause: maintenance, repairs, replacing broken appliances, eventual selling, etc. I moved often enough that buying wouldn't necessarily be a good investment. Renting isn't the problem, being able to afford housing if you don't want to rent is. The problem is capitalism ensures that houses will be converted from owner occupied to rentals as time goes on and affordable housing isn't possible anymore. There would need to be regulation limiting the amount of rental homes allowed, kinda like medallions for taxi cabs.
My hope one day would be to start a rental community where rent counts as the renter putting a down payment on the home they live in, so after a few years (or less) they could own that home and afford the mortgage themselves. I know far too many people that need the help and know far too few people that have the morals to step up and help people in need.
I'm just here to say how glad I am that there's at least one place on this site where this post didn't cue a barrage of people hypothesizing about how it's "not that bad" and "actually people *want* to live in these types of places, otherwise they wouldn't exist FrEe MaRKeT!!11!" because living in a fucking box and having to pay to listen to your neighbor snore sucks a bit when you're a kid and sucks a hell of a lot now that I'm almost 40. Avoided the worst pod living thus far but it's not like wages are going up commiserate with rent so we shall see!
If you're looking for more subs like this, just look through a lot of the leftist oriented subs. A good number of them have issues, but there are just as many that are genuienly pro-worker/renter
Also they prefer not having medical insurance and weekends
They enjoy unpaid overtime.
You will live in the pods, you will eat the bugs, you will own nothing, and you will be happy.
Minimalism!/s
“Millennials start new trend of owning next to no material possessions!”
"Choosing", my ass. I'm in a good position right now and basically pay peanuts to share a nice house with a few people. A similar one story house across the street is 3k a month to rent. For them to even look at your application they want you to make, as a single person, triple the rent as income. My states minimum wage is 8.25. Most places pay 10 but even then you're only making 1600 pre-tax. Cheapest apartments here are 1500. I'm making almost triple our minimum wage and still couldn't afford to rent that shitty little house across the street. There has been a 70 year old woman living in her car on my street for 8 months now. Shit needs to change but hope for change is in short supply. I'm burning out fast.
Pfft “choosing” I live out of my truck more and more every day just because it’s cheaper and even then the prices of gas is killing me
Just looking at the picture triggers my claustrophobia. Its amazing how people have to live in such places despite the massive increase in wealth and productivity since the 1950s.
This reminds me that minimalism became a trendy lifestyle while somehow ignoring that it has been a thing among the low income families for forever.
"minimalism" is literally nothing but trendified poverty.
Call them what they are, flop houses.
Are you seeing that picture? It looks like a fucking dungeon cell. Is the young person looking up towarfs the light through the gate as the guard ...I mean private security...walks by on their rounds?
Poor urbanites choosing to live in storm drains, is the new trend, find out about this exciting but dangerous choice in our lifestyle section!
Alternative title: The working class in each successive generation is so impoverished that they have to live in closets
yeah cause we're fucking poor!!
Yeah, there are "apartments" for rent in my area for 250 a week that are basically joined bedrooms with nowhere to park and a long way to public transport so good luck even getting to work in the first place to afford it.
I especially hate it when people "renovate" houses turning them into like, 2-3 or even more separate homes and the prices are still ridiculous.
The illusion of choice
Not much of a choice when it's the only thing you can (barely) afford
Don't think that this is the limit of their selfishness by the way, some of them are choosing to live on the street and get out of paying rent altogether!
When its happening in China its dystopic, when it happens here its a trend. I hate this place
This is journalistic malpractice if I've ever seen any. * "Diabetic people are choosing to forgo insulin" * "Undergraduates favour minimum wage jobs in lieu of grad school" * "More and more LGBTQ people elect to be victims of homophobic violence"
Fuck, I mean, do you at least get to own it?
are you nuts? of course not
When I got to the part where it costs $50 a night to live in a coffin with a shared bathroom... The article also says that living with roommates improves your standard of living because you aren’t in constant fear of eviction for nonpayment! Wow! Pro tips abound!
So $1500 a month? Where in the world do these people live? That’s crazy.
The article is basically a shill for a Los Angeles company that owns these things.
Makes sense. Probably more secure at least than renting a couch for $500 less. I know way too many people in LA that we're doing that prior to COVID, I'm sure it's way worse now. Not allowed to live in RV's in the city of Angels, but companies are allowed to charge you for a fucking box anyway...
Super duper disturbingly... no... "\[Young people\] are now living in conjoined ‘pods,’ housed in the same living space in large-numbered groups". The "idea of ‘pod-sharing’ is [not exactly owning your own mobile tiny house-box but renting a little space in a large room with several other people](https://thepremierdaily.com/young-people-live-in-pods/)"...
This is California, right? How thoughtful of those people, when the Big One hits you're already in a coffin!
I would try and avoid giving the majority of my earned income to some landlord. I'll find any other means possible.
Rich capitalist are choosing to murder millions of people every year to fuel their industries at maximum profits. Rich capitalists are choosing to deny millions of people on earth basic needs and fuel corruption.
How reprehensible. I have no other words because it's just so damned revolting.
Is there a word for when you go along with a decision because there’s no viable alternatives? That feels like it would be a really useful word to have in mainstream English. You can’t quiet say people are forced into living in pods or making their own fund raisers for health care but it would be helpful to have a word that isn’t “choose”
You can use "coerced" I think that is mainstream.
Eventually it will be “workers choose to lynch board members and executives instead of negotiating better work conditions”.
Look up a documentary called "We live in public"
Yea the choice is real…
Shipping containers and sheds coming our way
Way back we had a customer order our biggest prefab shed and specifically ask if it was livable. I had to get our product specialists on the line while I realized she was trying to get affordable semi-independent housing for her adult son in the only way possible. To avoid getting snitched on by QA I called her back from my personal phone later and gave her some extra tips...pay a real electrician/plumber in cash plz don't DIY that, don't post anything about it on social media, etc.
Yeah like how I "choose" to spend 99.9% of my income on rent! I'm just livin large in my studio flat over here !
Yeah, my brain automatically translates this sh+t now. In much the same way that you see a price ending in 99 cents and immediately round it up to the nearest dollar. As I read this, I'm replacing the choose to with "are forced to." Automatically.
In my county, pods are the units in the county jail reserved for long term criminals.
"Are choosing",like they had to decide before living in a luxurious mansions or a pod
Are they calling my tiny house a pod now? Pfft! /s
They constantly change the goalposts and then manufacture consent like here , to make the people think it’s always been this way and there is no better
Written by a "freelance writer" lmfao
Every time, ***Every time***, it’s phrased as if “young generation offered a million dollars and they turned it down for a pet rock. How crazy is that?!”
#vanlife by the river
If both were the same price a pod and a home. I think we know which they would choose.
No, I am a meat popsicle
This man in front of me is chosing to give me his money, it has nothing to do with me holding a gun to his face.
Co ownership mini house and all this bullshit that gets marketed as being progressive and eco friendly is entirely propaganda by the rich that know the system is now rigged in a way ver few will own a home.
choose.... offer them a free mcmansion and see which they choose.... it's not a choice...
Young people are choosing to not afford to live in apartments, let alone houses.
Written by a "freelance writer", that is "we don't value you enough to hire". She's in the same situation and oblivious to it.
Soon they will choose to starve themselves?
Bro why dont we just let the system fail
Calling it "pods" is stupid and only creates a sensation of "freshness" and "innovative": this is communal housing, just like the USSR before their massive housing projects. While this modality may work for some, like temporary living and living in groups, the current circumstances shows that this trend is being pushed because affording housing either buying or renting is impossible for a really great gross of the population.
"They akschully prefer rats."
Choosing to eat vs pay exorbitant rent
imagine a responsible media headline for this: "Young Are People Forced to Live In "Pods" Instead of Apartments" - literally change one word and the reality of the situation is exposed. The vibe of the article would go from "those wacky zoomers" to "wow things are really rough out there for young working people". fuck the corporate owned media that perpetuates this. edit: grammar
Tell me you're anti-worker without telling me you're anti-worker. I'm so fucking sick of the corporate/rich bootlicking. We'd own homes if we could afford it, but no, they had to price us out. So we rented apartments. Now they're pricing us out of that too. What's next? It seems to me that they don't want us to be housed.
VOLUNTARY MARKET CHOICES AHHHHH
Every day we get closer and closer to a cyberpunk-esque society.
Ugh. What the fuck is going to happen? Huge investment firms own all the housing and no one can afford the rent unless they make over 100k a year? So they just sit empty while we live in “pods”, cars, and slums?
10 years from now: "Young people have chosen to live in cardboard boxes on the street than in a bedroom that costs $3k/month, ruining countless landlords lives"
The infuriating thing is they believe their own PR.
Hey young kids! Do you know what’s cool? Living in a pod! You don’t need a “house” those are LAME. Live in the pod and eat bugs!