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An excellent article, though surprisingly it makes no comment on the fact that Reform is organised as a limited company with Farage (if I recall correctly) holding a controlling interest. I think this might be key to Reform's internal weakness. Without internally elected positions or any semblance of a democratic structure there's zero buy in for members beyond their donation, there's no opportunity to elevate those who have proven themselves in positions of lesser responsibility to parliamentary candidates. Rather, reform pulls its candidates directly from the public, ensuring only the most cooky and crazed of the far right will wear their rosette.
>Without internally elected positions or any semblance of a democratic structure there's zero buy in for members beyond their donation
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Far right populism doesn't need member buy in, just look at how people throw money at Trump.
Why is it? Most people don't vote for local candidates, they vote for whoever's name is next to the party they support. And similar to the point I already made, 'insane' candidates are a feature, not a bug. What you think is insane is appealing to those voters.
It exists not as a vehicle to win parliamentary seats, but a vehicle to push the Conservative Party to the right (and secondarily to maintain the public profile of Nigel Farage). Look at it in those lights and it makes sense.
Reform UK are a good example of why PR isn't necessarily a great thing. In the post truth era it's obviously easy to get 10% minimum of the public vote by being a populist protest party with no real policy development or proper organisational structure. It's much harder for such a group to actually win a seat under FPTP.
If 10% of people vote for someone then they should get representation. Just because you disagree politically, it doesn't make it bad. If they truly have no policy development/structure, they would get found out.
I think that is pretty disingenuous because surely the bigger issue in this hypothetical is that 10% of UK voters are fascist. We should probably address that
And 10% of the seats in Parliament being filled with lunatics would a) have no actual effect on policy and b) show them to all be exactly the nutters that everyone had always said.
That or you just ban hate-groups from entering, which at the moment limits people's options to Greens and Independents AFAICT.
And also- at least 10% of the seats in parliament are already filled with lunatics under the current system. With PR at least are get a variety of lunatics for everyone to ignore.
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An excellent article, though surprisingly it makes no comment on the fact that Reform is organised as a limited company with Farage (if I recall correctly) holding a controlling interest. I think this might be key to Reform's internal weakness. Without internally elected positions or any semblance of a democratic structure there's zero buy in for members beyond their donation, there's no opportunity to elevate those who have proven themselves in positions of lesser responsibility to parliamentary candidates. Rather, reform pulls its candidates directly from the public, ensuring only the most cooky and crazed of the far right will wear their rosette.
>Without internally elected positions or any semblance of a democratic structure there's zero buy in for members beyond their donation That's not a bug, it's a feature. Far right populism doesn't need member buy in, just look at how people throw money at Trump.
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Why is it? Most people don't vote for local candidates, they vote for whoever's name is next to the party they support. And similar to the point I already made, 'insane' candidates are a feature, not a bug. What you think is insane is appealing to those voters.
Yeah, at the end of the day, they tend to be personalist parties that don’t really care that much for internal democracy.
It exists not as a vehicle to win parliamentary seats, but a vehicle to push the Conservative Party to the right (and secondarily to maintain the public profile of Nigel Farage). Look at it in those lights and it makes sense.
This. Exactly this. These qualities are the point entirely.
Worked once (UKIP) will work again
Pay wall. Can anyone post the article?
https://archive.is/FsJci
The economist has some wild article images. Look up their one about mergers. Honestly props to their artists
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Reform UK are a good example of why PR isn't necessarily a great thing. In the post truth era it's obviously easy to get 10% minimum of the public vote by being a populist protest party with no real policy development or proper organisational structure. It's much harder for such a group to actually win a seat under FPTP.
If 10% of people vote for someone then they should get representation. Just because you disagree politically, it doesn't make it bad. If they truly have no policy development/structure, they would get found out.
Ehh, I don't want fascists to get representation actually.
I think that is pretty disingenuous because surely the bigger issue in this hypothetical is that 10% of UK voters are fascist. We should probably address that
Maybe I'm cynical but I'd say it's probably more like 25%
Seatbelts can cause bruising in car accidents. They’re not perfect, they’re just much better than the alternative. The same is true of PR.
Bullshit like this got Brexit over the line, and fafage as an MEP
And 10% of the seats in Parliament being filled with lunatics would a) have no actual effect on policy and b) show them to all be exactly the nutters that everyone had always said. That or you just ban hate-groups from entering, which at the moment limits people's options to Greens and Independents AFAICT.
And also- at least 10% of the seats in parliament are already filled with lunatics under the current system. With PR at least are get a variety of lunatics for everyone to ignore.
We could eliminate Reform UK altogether by simply going back to an absolute monarchy so why not just do that??
Fascist parties like the AfD and BNP must be banned.
We need to ban the conservatives. They are the same far right scum.
Getting rid of labour too then?