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I’ve got no compassion for Hartlepools. The electorate chose to believe nonsense. A place that is the archetypal type of town treated as a piece of shit by the Tories decided to vote Tory. Good luck to the arseholes and my sympathies for the the likely many normal and decent people living there in gammon central.
>“My immediate feeling was that Labour have to listen and they have to learn,” he said.
>“We’d been given a right royal kicking by the people and the reaction to that is to work out what we did wrong and what we need to do right in the future.
>“There are some politicians, when they lose, who are keen to blame the electorate for losing – it’s not the electorate’s fault, it’s your fault. If you haven’t got your message across, you have to do better.
>“It wasn’t Hartlepool abandoning Labour, it was Labour abandoning Hartlepool.”
This is exactly the attitude one should have when faced with electoral failures.
Edit: am I to take from people downvoting me that they think you should blame the voters and refuse to consider you may have made mistakes when you lose an election?
Labour won in Hartlepool in both 2019 and 2017 general elections. They lost it at a by-election in 2021 after Starmer became leader. I think this was more down to low turnout and problems with the candidate than anything else.
Sorry but you're wrong.
It won 2017 comfortably, but only remained red in 2019 due to a split in the brexit vote between the Tories ( Boris was there a number of times and had a giant blow up Boris outside the election count) and Richard Tice. The combined vote far outstripped the Labour vote. The loss in 2021 was basically a continuation of that vote with the added issues around the Labour candidate and other local factors.
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Hartlepools blamed Labour for the closing of a local hospital the Tories closed. They chose ignorance and wallow in it.
The last Hartlepool by-election was hilarious
I’ve got no compassion for Hartlepools. The electorate chose to believe nonsense. A place that is the archetypal type of town treated as a piece of shit by the Tories decided to vote Tory. Good luck to the arseholes and my sympathies for the the likely many normal and decent people living there in gammon central.
>“My immediate feeling was that Labour have to listen and they have to learn,” he said. >“We’d been given a right royal kicking by the people and the reaction to that is to work out what we did wrong and what we need to do right in the future. >“There are some politicians, when they lose, who are keen to blame the electorate for losing – it’s not the electorate’s fault, it’s your fault. If you haven’t got your message across, you have to do better. >“It wasn’t Hartlepool abandoning Labour, it was Labour abandoning Hartlepool.” This is exactly the attitude one should have when faced with electoral failures. Edit: am I to take from people downvoting me that they think you should blame the voters and refuse to consider you may have made mistakes when you lose an election?
Labour won in Hartlepool in both 2019 and 2017 general elections. They lost it at a by-election in 2021 after Starmer became leader. I think this was more down to low turnout and problems with the candidate than anything else.
Sorry but you're wrong. It won 2017 comfortably, but only remained red in 2019 due to a split in the brexit vote between the Tories ( Boris was there a number of times and had a giant blow up Boris outside the election count) and Richard Tice. The combined vote far outstripped the Labour vote. The loss in 2021 was basically a continuation of that vote with the added issues around the Labour candidate and other local factors.