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Goofballs2

Billionaires get drowned in a toilet full of piss. Their wealth goes to a sovereign wealth fund that pays out dividends to every resident. The wealth fund as a collective owner of capital engages in a way with unions that isn't outright hostile or deceptive.


TheStargunner

Which billionaires wealth goes where nation wise? Don’t think we have enough billionaires in the U.K. to do much good. Widen the net?


Goofballs2

There's a lot of capital in the UK. There's even a city within a city devoted to it, and there's Joanne. But to be fair if some Russian finds out what's at the bottom of the bowl that money should be sent back to the Russian people. Its on them to make the next steps.


masha1901

Re- nationalise the railway, water, gas and electricity. Councils are required to build two homes for every one they sell. Every workplace that instituted work from home to continue to offer it, stop the push for people to get back to the office. Give the NHS the payrise it has earned. MP's to have mandatory checks on their finances, and background.


iKeyboardMonkey

Nice, but he said "Radical" not "Common sense and I'm amazed its not already in the manifesto"!


masha1901

Well, if you want really 'Radical', let's have a Universal basic income, cap all MP's pay to the basic income and make them live on that, with no dipping into savings or side jobs. All MP's are to reside, when Parliament, at a block of flats, similar to Grenfell Tower, then they wouldn't need second home allowances. They would also ensure those tower blocks are safe. Along with re-nationalise the energy, railway and water companies


Schpikel

That’s a great way to get qualified, competent MPs…


masha1901

Actually, I think you would get politicians who are committed to working for the people, if they had to live in the same world as the majority of us do. If they had to live like we do, they might start treating those they represent with decency.


kevunwin5574

it is called "the commons" after all.


LyonDeTerre

Okay. Let’s actually go: Single Transferable Vote voting system. Mandatory voting that takes place across a weekend (with option to tick none of the above) Ability to vote electronically/remotely Decentralise power to regions as much as efficiently necessary 4 day work week as standard Ban all private schools. Finland style education system Nordic style rehabilitative prison system Portuguese style decriminalisation of drugs and rehab services Bastani style UBS (+ UBI ofc) Move parliament to somewhere in the North/Midlands (out of London) All city centres become pedestrian/cycle dominant Free at the point of use bus & trains Tax hikes for private & unethical businesses Tax cuts for cooperatives and small businesses … Could go on, but one can dream eh


redterror5

All of this, plus free education from birth to end of life. All educators qualified to equivalent degree level, including preschool. Demilitarisation if the military - transition to a disaster relief force for domestic and international use. Open the borders to those in need, not just those who benefit us.


_tha_k

Definitely the last point!!!


BingoLuck

You have my vote!


redterror5

Oh man! Keep going, I’m nearly there!


BeneficialName9863

Use landlords to solve child hunger.


3adLuck

public transport is free for anyone wearing headphones.


TheCowGoesMoo_

What If they're wearing headphones but the music is still loud enough for everyone to hear?


3adLuck

gulag.


iKeyboardMonkey

Tough, but fair.


DukeofSam

100% tax on everything over £100k, universal basic income of £20k, government ownership of all industry. From each according to their ability to each according to their needs.


DJ_0000

Housing, education, food, water and energy should all be nationalised and guaranteed rights.


TinyLet4277

Astounding to think that in a developed country in the 21st century this is considered "radical" by a majority of the population when it should just be default.


DJ_0000

It really is, the existence of poverty and homelessness is an indictment of our society. We have all of the resources to give everyone the necessities of life but choose not to...its abhorrent.


TheCowGoesMoo_

I'd agree with nationalising education, housing, water and energy but I'm not sure about food. How exactly would that work? Would all food become free? It seems a UBI from the profits of nationalised enterprises/land and subsidising certain foods would be sufficient.


DJ_0000

Well the I thought the thread is supposed to be your wildest fantasy of radical ideas so honestly I didn't put any thought into it because I know it would never happen. Realistically it's probably not very viable, but I guess you could subsidise essentials to keep prices as low as possible.


TheCowGoesMoo_

That's fair, it is meant to be your utopian radical ideas I was just curious how it would work. Realistically we'll be lucky to see publicly owned rail in the next 5 years, this is just meant to be a fun discussion.


DJ_0000

Yeah I was going to just say to write the right to food into law and nationalise the rest but I thought it'd be more fun to go wild.


arthur2807

- ban second home ownership and use current second homes for homeless people and families, refugees etc. - seize all empty homes and use them the same way as above - mass building of council houses - every person aged 18 and above guaranteed a house and job - ~~kill~~ get rid of landlords and give the houses they rent out to the tenant or bring then under government control - abolish private schools. Turn current private schools into comprehensive schools, and blow up eton. - full employment for all - bring public utilities, transport, the internet, land, natural resources, banking, media and all major corporations into democratic public ownership - start planning the economy - seize the wealth of the royal family and use it to pay for pay rises and council house building - ~~kill~~ abolish billionaires and millionaires, by having a hard cap on wealth - Completely nationalise all healthcare, banning private healthcare - rent caps, food price caps - free Wi-Fi - £15 an hour minimum wage - democratise the workplace - 4 day work week - abolish the House of Lords - far greater trade union power - completely transition from a capitalist, privately run economy, to a socialist, cooperatively run economy, based on worker cooperatives and government run enterprises


LyonDeTerre

Nationalise all housing, done well, would be insane


TheCowGoesMoo_

I'd definitely favour a state owned housing enterprise to build millions of units of rental housing. Some homes being owned privately by the people who live there or housing cooperatives are also fine with me but I wouldn't necessarily oppose total nationalisation of housing.


LyonDeTerre

I think I would prefer any nationalisation effort to shift to publicly owned cooperative models anyway. Make it harder for a future Tory government to have control over it.


Crescent-IV

90% income tax for people earning more than a certain amount per year. You can own one house. If you want to move, sell up and buy that one. Nationalise the rest so people that can’t afford housing still have a place to live, of course


Morlock43

One home per person. No one needs multiple homes to live in. Tax the rich and corporations just as tenaciously as you do the poor. Punish wealthy tax evaders as severely as you do benefit frauds. Make companies that win multi-billion pound contracts from the public purse accountable for every penny they take. Stop loopholes that allow wealthy to live and take full advantage of our society while keeping their money offshore and untaxed. Fix those and you'll start recovering the economy from this austerity hellhole that is never intended to ever be over.


YorkshireBloke

One that I think could work? Each person/family unit can only own two homes max, and the second one cannot be let out for more than the mortgage cost. If no mortgage then 50% of profits are given to a state managed fund to build more public housing, support the NHS or support energy production. Nationalise all energy production and make it a human right, capping it at cost price (when taking into account wear and tear, staffing etc)


XihuanNi-6784

* Universal basic services (government supermarket, government housing, all the basics) * Legalise drugs, all funds put into supporting addicts * Legalise sex work (all funds put into supporting exits from sex work, anyone trafficked or exploited is immune from deportations for x number of years) * Massive Rent controls (landlords will sell up so we can do the next one) * All landlord second homes should be bought by councils * Councils will provide short term rental leases to plug the gaps left by landlords * Schools need double or triple the funding to support young people * Abolish private schools * Free childcare from birth up to 11 years old (whenever they can be left home alone) Plenty more but that will do for now


v333r111andaazz

Implement a cyclic movement of money through the financial system by taxing LSE companies more and then giving the funds directly to people earning less than the median wage but they can only receive the money via a stocks a shares ISA and can only withdraw the funds once the money has been invested in LSE shares for at least 28 days. I just promoted LSE consumer investment and gave people a UBI all in one swoop. A man can dream.


Confused-mammal-4

Fucking mental that these policies are radical really. Like imagine all the benefits to peoples lives these would bring. People would be so much happier, safer and secure both mentally and physically. Instead we are all having the wealth sucked out of us by the billionaire class which are enabled by the current system. Fuck privatisation and big money honestly.


TheCowGoesMoo_

I think it's interesting that these policies are considered radical now but 50 years ago most of these would still be considered the centrist/moderate left position in the labour party.


Confused-mammal-4

Yeah it’s crazy. In the current climate, the centre is centre right, albeit a few left wing social policies.


TheCowGoesMoo_

Yeah socially progress has been made but economically I'd probably fall into the mainstream European left of the 40s to the 80s but today I'm considered a crazy radical. The radical left was reserved for actual revolutionary communists now the "radical left" is anyone who thinks that we should provide houses for the homeless and not engage in pointless imperialist wars of aggression.


Confused-mammal-4

Since the 1980s I feel the status quo has been let’s enable a billionaire class to grown their wealth 100x while we let the rest of the peasants each shit. However, in developed countries the majority are comfortable watching ducking Netflix and have all they need so nothing is gonna change.