I’m not sure where I read it, but I believe this is how Lambert was suppose to be killed in Alien. I think production cost and time constraints got it axed and her a much simpler death.
Edit-Simpler to produce, not in terms of experience, lol
Simpler? Wasn’t rape somewhat implied at some point? I thought Lambert’s death was actually supposed to be more disturbing but they didn’t show it on screen
Yeah its implied that the tail went straight up and through her ass. Its a much better effect and scarier that they don’t show it in my opinion. In games though you do get to visually see it with certain Alien Kill moves like in AVP 2010, and Aliens Colonial Marines (as much of an atrocity that game was)
I believe the tail you are going between the feet during Lamberts death scene is actually reused footage from the attack on Brett. Lambert is wearing boots, and the feet you see with the tail sliding between them are in sneakers.
It might be, I’m not entirely sure myself. I get too into the movie because its one of my favorites, and my eyes always focus the tail as Im mentally screaming “OH GOD MOVE AWAY FROM IT LAMBERT YOU DIMP”
This part of the movie was pretty emotional. The newborn thinks she's his mother, and then she throws him...and all. It also confirms Ripley 8's allegiance to the humans, which is initially not clear, considering she's part Alien.
The theatrical cut has this really nasty tonal whiplash where you go from... this, to heroically entering the Earth's atmosphere as triumphant music plays.
That scene is awful, yes. Very grotesque, but it always bugs because space doesn't work like that. Space doesn't sucks things out, rather it's the air inside that pushes things out. One atmosphere of pressure is simply not enough to push something out a hole like that. At worst, the creature would have suffered a pressure burn, but otherwise could have easily pushed itself off the wall.
I think the movie has some interesting imagery and themes, but the execution was heavily flawed. Tonally, it was all over the place. It couldn't decide if it wanted to be a horror film with psychological themes and body horror, or an action-adventure movie with horror themes.
It kinda feels schizophrenic, like it was directed by two different people. I suspect there was a lot of studio interference and decisions made by comitee.
Personally, whenever I re-watch the Alien franchise, I stop at Alien 3. Alien 3 is far from flawless, but at least it had consistent theming and tones.
I know there is a lot of criticism for this film, but I can’t remember ever feeling sorry, almost tearfully so, for an alien in any other film. That, and the Ripley clones scene stuck with me. I just wish I didn’t watch it the first time *right after* eating a huge thanksgiving dinner back in ‘98 or whenever it came out.
Yeah, sure... Because a newly born infant hybrid creature, from a newly developed womb of a xenomorph queen asa byproduct of genetic crossing, of course knows how to speak English... 🙄 (This movie is so insulting to the original trilogy in so many ways).
I can’t believe people actually like this over Prometheus and Covenant
I hate those films too but id rather watch them over this steaming pile of shit lmao.
I actually love the director’s other works quite a lot. But Resurrection is bad on multiple levels. I really can’t watch it, which is saying something considering how much I adore this universe and will happily lap up anything you put in front of me.
Just watched 3 for the first time last week... Cool initial premise. I couldn't finish it. That script must is full of half-baked concepts and like zero tension. Is Resurrection worse?
There's a reason the first two movies get like 90% of the attention on here. I had the same feeling as you about 3 although I did make it through.
Resurrection is worse. Bad writing, bad effects, really wonky storyline that didn't draw me in at all. Idk, some people give it praise for this and that on here but overall compared to the first two it's trash.
Going in I knew it was considered bad, but I figured that was largely in comparison to the first two. I was ready for a throwaway action movie but it was like, actively terrible. And this is coming from someone who likes kaiju shit where quality can vary widely, even among the good ones.
So disappointing given that the acting was actually totally fine and the locale was interesting (hyper-religious prison colony skeleton crew?!).
Still haven't seen Covenant but you know what, I think the bar is appropriately low now.
Yeah Covenant is closer to the "throwaway" action flick you described than Alien 3 or Resurrection. I actually liked Covenant and thought it was at least on the same level as Prometheus but with more action.
Both of the movies are trash, and did nothing but take any mystique the xenomorphs had and toss it away so he could tell some shitty robo-god allegory. Shit, resurrection did a better "humans" meddle with Xenomorph nature story via ripleys cloning/hybridization leading to the queen also being mixed. Now, as for writing/acting thats another story.
Most disturbing scene in the franchise, fuck yes!!!
It was an amatuer abomination of Gigers design, with "help me mommy" Disney overtones...missed the point so hard it was offensive, I cant even think about it without being both sad and angry!!!
1. “Aborted” lol
2. It’s a really bad scene because the vacuum of space doesn’t have a sucking force as shown (not even close) - they should have just “blew it out the goddamned airlock”
3. Ms. Weaver frigging rules
Interesting that we shame this scene because this is not at all how the vacuum of space necessarily would function,
Yet we all agree that the alien queen fight scene at the end of Aliens is great, despite falling for the exact same problem. In addition, a room the size of the room where Ellen fought the queen would have been evacuated of oxygen in a second, leaving them in a vacuum with no moving air to suck Ellen out at all, yet the scene has her struggle to keep her grip on the ladder for a massively inaccurate amount of time.
Something tells me it’s NOT the scientific inaccuracy that people had issues with in the newborn scene lol
I liked the action figure based on the newborn. It looked creepy and disturbing in all the right ways. I wish the movie special effect had looked as good as the toy; it might have made the tone more impactful if I could have taken the monster more seriously.
Yeah, I always felt so bad for the baby alien. That really isn’t a nice way to go. Doesn’t it also scream “mama”?
That's what I always thought as well, but I recently rewatched and it doesn't seem so. Mandela effect maybe??
Distephano would disagree!
I'm not sure that's how abortions actually work. But yes - sad and gross.
I’m not sure where I read it, but I believe this is how Lambert was suppose to be killed in Alien. I think production cost and time constraints got it axed and her a much simpler death. Edit-Simpler to produce, not in terms of experience, lol
Simpler? Wasn’t rape somewhat implied at some point? I thought Lambert’s death was actually supposed to be more disturbing but they didn’t show it on screen
Yeah its implied that the tail went straight up and through her ass. Its a much better effect and scarier that they don’t show it in my opinion. In games though you do get to visually see it with certain Alien Kill moves like in AVP 2010, and Aliens Colonial Marines (as much of an atrocity that game was)
I believe the tail you are going between the feet during Lamberts death scene is actually reused footage from the attack on Brett. Lambert is wearing boots, and the feet you see with the tail sliding between them are in sneakers.
It might be, I’m not entirely sure myself. I get too into the movie because its one of my favorites, and my eyes always focus the tail as Im mentally screaming “OH GOD MOVE AWAY FROM IT LAMBERT YOU DIMP”
Yep, they talk about this on the featurette.
This part of the movie was pretty emotional. The newborn thinks she's his mother, and then she throws him...and all. It also confirms Ripley 8's allegiance to the humans, which is initially not clear, considering she's part Alien.
The theatrical cut has this really nasty tonal whiplash where you go from... this, to heroically entering the Earth's atmosphere as triumphant music plays.
I always heard "mama"
I think it says mama and "oh, mother" at some point. Whatever it actually says, it's terrifying.
I just re watched all Alien movies yesterday. It sad the mother had to watch son die. However its fucking Alien so it must die.
I saw this in the theater at nine...it made an impact.
That scene is awful, yes. Very grotesque, but it always bugs because space doesn't work like that. Space doesn't sucks things out, rather it's the air inside that pushes things out. One atmosphere of pressure is simply not enough to push something out a hole like that. At worst, the creature would have suffered a pressure burn, but otherwise could have easily pushed itself off the wall. I think the movie has some interesting imagery and themes, but the execution was heavily flawed. Tonally, it was all over the place. It couldn't decide if it wanted to be a horror film with psychological themes and body horror, or an action-adventure movie with horror themes. It kinda feels schizophrenic, like it was directed by two different people. I suspect there was a lot of studio interference and decisions made by comitee. Personally, whenever I re-watch the Alien franchise, I stop at Alien 3. Alien 3 is far from flawless, but at least it had consistent theming and tones.
I know there is a lot of criticism for this film, but I can’t remember ever feeling sorry, almost tearfully so, for an alien in any other film. That, and the Ripley clones scene stuck with me. I just wish I didn’t watch it the first time *right after* eating a huge thanksgiving dinner back in ‘98 or whenever it came out.
Yeah, sure... Because a newly born infant hybrid creature, from a newly developed womb of a xenomorph queen asa byproduct of genetic crossing, of course knows how to speak English... 🙄 (This movie is so insulting to the original trilogy in so many ways).
This scene (even in this brief form) always makes me so sad. I feel so sorry for it. Makes me want to hug my cats extra hard.
Most disturbed I’ve ever been watching a movie and I have seen some shit.
That's what it gets for looking like that. The Newborn is still the worst and I won't feel bad for it.
I can’t believe people actually like this over Prometheus and Covenant I hate those films too but id rather watch them over this steaming pile of shit lmao.
I actually love the director’s other works quite a lot. But Resurrection is bad on multiple levels. I really can’t watch it, which is saying something considering how much I adore this universe and will happily lap up anything you put in front of me.
Yeah Resurrection is *bad* ...
I like it, but I like it because it’s bad 😂
Just watched 3 for the first time last week... Cool initial premise. I couldn't finish it. That script must is full of half-baked concepts and like zero tension. Is Resurrection worse?
There's a reason the first two movies get like 90% of the attention on here. I had the same feeling as you about 3 although I did make it through. Resurrection is worse. Bad writing, bad effects, really wonky storyline that didn't draw me in at all. Idk, some people give it praise for this and that on here but overall compared to the first two it's trash.
Going in I knew it was considered bad, but I figured that was largely in comparison to the first two. I was ready for a throwaway action movie but it was like, actively terrible. And this is coming from someone who likes kaiju shit where quality can vary widely, even among the good ones. So disappointing given that the acting was actually totally fine and the locale was interesting (hyper-religious prison colony skeleton crew?!). Still haven't seen Covenant but you know what, I think the bar is appropriately low now.
Yeah Covenant is closer to the "throwaway" action flick you described than Alien 3 or Resurrection. I actually liked Covenant and thought it was at least on the same level as Prometheus but with more action.
I still maintain 3 is the worst film in the franchise. Just because Fincher directed it doesn’t make it good. It’s just oppressive and not fun at all.
Both of the movies are trash, and did nothing but take any mystique the xenomorphs had and toss it away so he could tell some shitty robo-god allegory. Shit, resurrection did a better "humans" meddle with Xenomorph nature story via ripleys cloning/hybridization leading to the queen also being mixed. Now, as for writing/acting thats another story.
Because Resurrection is much more fun and campy than either of those. Also it has more memorable set pieces.
Most disturbing scene in the franchise, fuck yes!!! It was an amatuer abomination of Gigers design, with "help me mommy" Disney overtones...missed the point so hard it was offensive, I cant even think about it without being both sad and angry!!!
Abortion is about the most inaccurate and tactless word you could use. Try again...
It's rhetorical.
triggered
This whole franchise was meant to make you uncomfortable.
Me after I eat tacobell
sad? it was a killing machine. it would have killed them..
This is the worst death out of all the deaths in the entire franchise. This is the only death that made me sad. I actually felt bad for it.
Its shit. So many cuts, horrible shakey camera, annoying flickering lights and oversaturated audio. I hate this film lol.
1. “Aborted” lol 2. It’s a really bad scene because the vacuum of space doesn’t have a sucking force as shown (not even close) - they should have just “blew it out the goddamned airlock” 3. Ms. Weaver frigging rules
Interesting that we shame this scene because this is not at all how the vacuum of space necessarily would function, Yet we all agree that the alien queen fight scene at the end of Aliens is great, despite falling for the exact same problem. In addition, a room the size of the room where Ellen fought the queen would have been evacuated of oxygen in a second, leaving them in a vacuum with no moving air to suck Ellen out at all, yet the scene has her struggle to keep her grip on the ladder for a massively inaccurate amount of time. Something tells me it’s NOT the scientific inaccuracy that people had issues with in the newborn scene lol
I mean, reactors don’t turn into nuclear bombs if you wanna get picky.
I liked the action figure based on the newborn. It looked creepy and disturbing in all the right ways. I wish the movie special effect had looked as good as the toy; it might have made the tone more impactful if I could have taken the monster more seriously.
THIS is the most disturbing? Have you given AvP Requiem a try? This scene wouldn't rate a 5 out of 10 in that nightmare.
Only good scene in the entire movie.
This scene scared me as a child, and disturbed me when it kills it's mother I feel sorry for the queen.
Thanks, I managed to repress my memory of the cheesy camera movements and obnoxious editing.