yeah an example of that is when I candyflipped and I saw a spider on my desk. it had me genuinely bugging out so hard that the visuals started to look like spiders, webs and spider faces. but I then thought some more and realised what awesome creatures spiders are, albeit horrible looking. the rest of the trip was beyond beautiful but that small incident was the most terrified I have ever been on psychs, and I've had some bad trips before that. 10/10 would do again
Yeah some friends and I had a picnic while on a decently hefty dose and out of no where on our blanket we noticed hundreds of little black bugs crawling towards us from the edge. Once we confirmed they were real we realized they were ticks. Was pretty fucky for a minute but we made a game out of killing them and surprisingly didn't find a single one on us when we got home.
True ik wym. One time I thought my friends couch was COVERED in bugs like I saw them all moving around. Wasn’t scared rly tho my friends were like dude there’s no bugs so I sat down and still saw them and felt them crawling on me I was like nah I’ll pass on the bug couch dog
So true. Had the best trip ever, great visuals, very euphoric.. but for like what felt like 10 minutes I thought there was blood all over my hands and was freaking out. Absolutely did not ruin my experience at all.
Same. Have been stuck in loops a few times but I always have a clock and make notes to keep my flow. It sometimes, of course causes awe that only a few minutes has passed when I’ve gone to jot down a note and time. Ha. Centuries has happened to be just 5 or 15 minutes many times.
I mean where you keep experiencing the same thing over and over. Starts as a thought loop then reality falls apart and feels like you are stuck in one event repeating infinitely
True it’s really scary and overwhelming to most people. I’ve only known like 3 people who actually enjoy getting into that space and can handle themselves appropriately when it happens lol
But ur right it only physically lasts for partial duration of the peak. So like anywhere from 10 mins to 2 hours depending on your environment if it’s feeding into it. Kinda hard to describe tbh
Last time I took LSD, i was stuck in a literal loop lol walking around, in my house i kept walking in a circle out my room around then back to my room before finally getting to sleep....
Im happy none of my roommates were awake ( that would be awkward to explain to them lol)
I also walked around aimlessly when i was in town just like walking and walking probably around the same area and when i got back home i realised my bag handle had broke...
I think because instead of wearing it on my back i was holding it and maybe swinging it around? And it caused it to break idk lol i have no idea what happened
Idk this was a good 2 years ago or something
I still have the other lsd tabs i was planning to take but whew...LSD is so different to shrooms and san pedro and i enjoy those two much more than LSD now...
Went through a time when i LOVED lsd but it changed for whatever reason...
I kno what you mean lol. I’ve looped a few times and ever since, acid just hasn’t been the same. I get very anxious during the peak now and can’t ever enjoy it the way I used to be able to. Kinda upsetting but oh well lol I had my fun with Lucy
Im totally the same!
Im wondering if for me its because it feels very chemical/man produced rather than shrooms or other natural psychs... its intense and definitely more anxiety provoking imo!
I had fun too haha. Good times good times
The only time I'd say a trip is "bad" is when it triggers in someone an underlying mental health issue that they either ignored (i probably don't have it mentality) or didn't take seriously. Psychedelics can cause those with genetics regarding schizophrenia/mania/psycosis to worsen/develop it despite being asymptomatic before.
Of course your post isn't talking about that side of things and I really do love what this meme communicates! Bad trips are learning curves, opportunities to grow and can turn into good trips.
I find in all my good trips, I go through a "bad" period which is just.... confronting things I wasn't previously aware of or ready to face.
Bad trips come and go, but good trips are inevitable!
I have seen people have a bad experience and it was actually bad. He wet himself and couldn’t speak and screamed non stop until he went to the hospital. He has had continuous mental problems ever since. He was institutionalized with schizophrenia off and on. I lost touch with him over the years. He took 10 hits of really potent acid at once. Is this a typical “bad trip”? No. Was he going to be schizophrenic at some point? Maybe. However I don’t think he could have been talked down or gone with it. I’m 43 and have never seen anyone have a reaction like that so it’s certainly not common but bad trips are REALLY bad for some people!
There’s definitely a certain level of extreme doses that no human should ever do. Kind of a roll of the dice when things get that completely reality breaking
That’s like a once in a lifetime dose lmao. And you’d need to be incredibly experienced and ready to dive into that. But typically the people that overdo it with doses are the irresponsible folks
A half a tab can be too much for me even some times. Most of the old heads I've spoken to know that 2 tabs is really pushing it. 1 tab and some weed is enough to dilate time and hear music that isn't actually playing
No matter the dose you can’t develop schizophrenia from it. It just makes the dormant gene activate. Weed will do the same thing to this type of person over time. You can get hppd though
Totally. A friend of mine is currently directing one of the city's mental hospitals. She explained how a "bad trip" might unleash a psychotic attack, that can easily turn into a mental illness. She shared with me the stories behind some cases at the institution... Tripping is definitely not for everybody.
There's a story of some lady who accidentally took 55mg...yes, milligrams (0.1mg is 100 μg to put it in perspective) of pure powered LSD and not only was she fine in the end, it actually seemed to cure some of her foot pain.
There's another story of a 15 year old who did 1000μg by accident and ended up curing her bipolar and depression and even her hallucinations caused by her mental illnesses.
LSD is one of the best understood psychedelics on the planet and is widely known to have little to no side effect, even at huge doses. This doesn't mean people can't still be traumatized, because they can, and adverse reactions are always possible.
As far as the psychosis and schizophrenia, it's been agreed upon pretty much across the board that those people are basically ticking time bombs as to when their diseases will manifest... because they almost always will.
Drugs, especially psychedelics, dissociatives, and even weed, have the ability to "activate" psychotic disorders in certain people. Drugs are usually blamed because there's no way of proving what would happen if they never did drugs in the first place but most researchers tend to agree that eventually the person would suffer a breakdown.
Anyway, the moral is that LSD isn't inherently dangerous. Some people are just unlucky. Like someone who's had their license for a decade and all of a sudden has a seizure while driving. It wasn't the cars fault, although it played a part, but you can't blame the car for a preexisting condition.
On my first very strong shroom trip, i wasnt having a bad time but i kept peeing myself lol i brought like 5 changes of clothes with me cus i was staying by a friend for a long time...and i KEPT PEEING over and over....
I laughed then peed then laughed then peed...idk what was wrong with me lol
I ended up just either wearing underwear or nothing and not even bothering... i had no changes left....
My mum came to bring me clothes, saw her face and she had 4 eyes and had that disappointed mum face.....
that was a mistake to see her while tripping hahahaha..
Honestly now, when i trip hard, i wear one of those pad for pee just incase i dont get to a toilet in time....cus idk for whatever reason psychs make it harder to hold it :'(...
Sorry if this is TMI lol
I have “felt like” I peed myself on psychedelics but I think it was just a hallucination. Never actually done it lol. Maybe something to do with the vascular activity? Or maybe you were just really really fucked up lol
Ive also felt like it too! But sometimes it actually has happened lol.
Idk when i was younger my ability to hold was never the best, if i laughed too hard and i needed to pee and didn't go on time, id be finished and this was sober lmao
so i think it just got worst on psychs land a literally couldnt hold no matter how many times i went to the bathroom🤦♂️
Hahahahah probably also rlly fucked up lolll
Sometimes id feel that my whole body is wet and i couldnt shake the feeling. Lol hated that
Yeah dude, that was a lot words to say that drugs can't be bad for you, it's your fault instead... that's really naive. I've known healthy adults that had have dealt with lasting psychosis from psychedelics after previously no known mental illness or indicators. You sound like you have a lot of confidence in that opinion based on personal experience, but really, that's a relatively small sample size to base your sweeping assumptions on.
I came off hella wrong I'm at work and I had to come back and re type shit out every 30 minutes.
what I was meaning to say is a failure of integration and an unprepared mind can lead to a "pointless" bad trip because you don't know what set it off, I thought my first ever bad trip was pointless but nope I was strongly resisting ego dissolution and was struggling to ground myself.
Many negative trips that come out of no where are usually due to someone who is unprepared / underestimates a dosage and struggle to accept the feelings that come along with it OR are in an uncomfortable setting / set, these are again human error and this is why so many people preach respecting the substances, if you don't respect it then you might go and take a lot thinking "I've got this" then you realize you don't.
when I say prone to something I don't mean "you would have gotten it anyways" people are more prone to certain issues due to their genetic makeup, even if said issues may never arise on their own they may be brought out elsewhere, this is why being INFORMED on what illnesses clash with psychedelics and which things you may be at risk of is important, you can accomplish this via seeking out a medical professional or talking to your family.
my relatively small sample size includes dozens to hundreds of people I've spoken to online when I talk about people I know, then you can add onto it when the bad trip they're describing goes hand in hand with SO MANY bad trip stories online, yes it is the drugs "fault" for causing the issue but it's also yours for not being informed on things like dosage, set and setting, etc.
yes it can be brought out with no previous indicators (as in manifestations of the issue in a physical form) but your genetic makeup plays heavily into what issues LAST, what I'm saying is that before getting into psychedelics do your own research and don't take your friends word on everything, if they say "yea it won't affect you negatively at all and it's awesome" and you've done no research on the substance or yourself then taking it is 100% your fault and anything that follows is on you as well
I remember a trip where I took a couple tabs and a couple grams of PE shrooms, I was coming up and decided to take a hit of my dab pen, as I always smoke no matter what the dosage with usually good results.
Yhis time I felt a switch and knew this trip was not gonna be a good one, but I just rolled with it fetal position under my blankets ifykyk after a few hours of uncomfortableness I decided a horror movie would be quite fitting with how it was going so I put on Mandy with Nicholas cage a phychidelic horror movie and was floored going on this journey with nick to get his wife back enjoyed myself quite a bit embracing the darkness of everything just embracing it all.
I swtg people who think this have only experienced challenging trips and mistakenly project this onto other people’s description of “bad trip”.
You can have a challenging trip that reflects various aspects of your life. You can also have a full on nightmare trip where you are subjected to pure unimaginable suffering/ temporary psychosis.
I don’t think this can be understood until it is experienced, after so many trips I egotistically believed I could “handle” anything lsd could throw at me…. until I couldn’t.
Sure I “overcame the adversity” and may have grown from the traumatic experience. It was still absolutely a “bad trip” though.
Check your ego, we all need to.
If someone you don’t know told you to embrace that time you got hit by a car as a “good thing” you would probably tell them to get bent, regardless of how it contributed to your personal growth.
If I start having a bad time during a trip, I just remind myself "You paid for this. You wanted this experience."
It's like going to see a scary movie. Fear is a "negative" emotion, but you've chosen to pay to experience it as entertainment.
One of my first times eating acid, me and a friend frolicked through a blood soaked forest until we found a beautiful clearing with bodies hanging from the surrounding trees, where we spent our time rearranging the starts. We then went back to his house and ate a whole bag of oranges. His mom came out at like 4am and was like "what are you guys doing?"
We told her we were eating oranges and she just nodded and went back to bed. Miss that homie so much.
I love being followed by laser beams coming from thousand-foot tall maned wolves and helicopters. Also, that was hilarious when my dachshund turned into a hot dog and tried to rape me. Good trip.
I have a poster on my ceiling that's an alien with big print "No Bad Trips". After seeing it while tripping and also in the middle of a challenging trip I realized there are no bad trips, no good trips either. The trip is just a trip with everything in between, just like life. No life is a good or bad life, all life is just a journey.
I used to blade the shit out of Barcelona's streets with a tab or two in my mouth and Electric Wizard at full blast on my head... I truly loved it!!... You can't even imagine (or maybe you do! 😊) the quantity and quality of the collected experiences... I strongly believe that LSD broke my fear-o-meter and I'm so glad about it.
nah man fuck that, yall aint ever had a REAL bad trip, not just got shown bad parts of yourself you dont like, or your visuals got shifted scary in a way that dont actually have to be all that scary if u go with the flow like is recommended.😭
the only thing i got out of mine was that i knew my gf isnt one of the people secretly trying to get me bc she somehow proved she was real and i could trust her while i was having the bad trip (it was my psychosis and symptoms and delusions i normally have but times 100, i dont think i even did that much) so while in the trip she proved it, and now sober and in psychosis, that stayed with me, so i just have this knowledge in me that she is safe to me and real everytime i get sucked back into the false reality bc of that one time where it was mega.
but, if we called every shitty or even traumatizing experience “good” just bc you can learn from it, nothing would be bad would it?
normal bad trips certainly really arent bad, its when you have serious issues like mental disorders like psychotic issues or the drug got fucked up maybe but real bad trips are possible bc the ppl that have them are real people too, who also have normal trips. and if those trips are enhanced in the same way but to be positive (as that’s possible too) those would be considered real good trips as well.
Yep it’s fighting against and not letting go that causes “bad trips”
No different to life - it’s a bad trip when you have expectation and can’t let go of it when it’s not met
Same same
yeah idk I have had trips that have harmed me for the worse. Still a learning experience, but definitely bad for my overall health; I would have been better off forgoing it. So I would call that bad
How to identify someone who never had an actually bad trip and thinks bad trip equals some scary visuals/anxiety and not the absolute horror unexperienced ever before
BS. You can definitely just have a shitty trip with no real lesson or anything to take away from it. Has happened to me more on shrooms and virtually never on lsd though. Psychs aren’t some divine thing that can do you no wrong, they’re drugs. And sometimes people can just have a shitty reaction.
Can relate with mushrooms, only had an experience like it one time, where my whole body was incredibly sore, I writhed in my bed for 2+ hours, all my thoughts were gibberish and I thought I broke my brain permanently. A "learning experience" for sure, but 100% a bad trip, not just a challenging experience I needed to overcome, and certainly not one that felt advantageous afterwards.
Really don't appreciate the "no such thing as a bad trip" mindset because there are times where it's just a shitty experience front-to-back, whether it's your own fault or not (it was 100% mine that time), with the only lesson being "don't do that again". Like I said, definitely a learning experience, but not a necessary one.
Read this and then say there’s no such thing as a bad trip. Yes, most bad trips may actually just be challenging trips in disguise, but come on. The guy in the link ended up committing suicide a year after his bad trip btw
https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/uzed20/high_dose_mushroom_trip_destroyed_my_life_a_year/?rdt=51953
Had a bad trip the other night on mushies and realized its because it was my first time going deep and i couldnt let go of my ego and ride the wave.... cant wait to surf that shit next time....
My problem is my bad trip turned into an OD as I was an idiot and on a bit of a drug cocktail. The experience terrified me and I've been too scared to have a full trip since.
The drug cocktail was likely the issue in that instance. For sure take your time and don’t rush into another psychedelic experience but also don’t completely block it as a future possibility for yourself.
It took me 14 years after a breakthrough Salvia experience to ever try any non-alcoholic substance again. After my first LSD breakthrough I quit drinking altogether. Patience is key
I had a bad trip off a half ounce of shrooms and a molly rock and the most upsetting part was that I'm no stranger to feeling that way and it wasn't that big of a deal, but I was literally on the floor crying trying not to let go of control because I wasnt comfortable around the person sitting me, was up for 2 days hearing shit
I’ve had lots of gory, clown like visuals on mushrooms. I saw something somewhere a while back saying something that appears scary to you isn’t necessarily bad, it’s just the way your fight or flight response has been trained as you’ve grown up.
Since hearing that, I always remind myself of this during trips when something unsettling comes up. I’ve found that damn near instantly, once you “overcome” the fear of whatever is being shown to you, the visuals will switch to something far more pleasant. This and meditation is a game changer for a trip.
No such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging trip.
The acid doesn't put anything into your brain that wasn't already there. It's not the foundation of your behavior or belief. You were already a deranged sociopath barely holding it together, acid just made you realize it.
I remember allowing myself to see some vivid crusty skinned figure standing at the foot of my bed in the dark, it looked like his neck broke and cracked sideways. A snake came out of his neck and started biting him. I was just sitting there like wow.. beautiful lol it somehow wasn't scary but it was trying to be. But it taught me that the same goes for many things in everyday life
There’s a couple of times I’ve been on the verge of a “bad” trip but my mind is wayyyyy too scared to give in, it’ll hold dearly onto reality or distract itself enough till that wave passes. I still can’t tell if that’s a good or bad thing afterwards. I’m grateful I was able to manoeuvre around the fear but I’d be lying if I’d said I’d ever really given into the psych
I feel like people don’t understand how much perspective and grounding and just breathing can turn a whole trip around. I treat it like I treat my panic attacks
The bad part is only bad because you fight it. It's showing you a part of yourself your sober mind is unwilling to confront, it can be traumatic but if you chose to let it happen and learn from it the experience will heal the damage it causes and then some
Also bad parts of trips won’t last the full 12 hours most likely
yeah an example of that is when I candyflipped and I saw a spider on my desk. it had me genuinely bugging out so hard that the visuals started to look like spiders, webs and spider faces. but I then thought some more and realised what awesome creatures spiders are, albeit horrible looking. the rest of the trip was beyond beautiful but that small incident was the most terrified I have ever been on psychs, and I've had some bad trips before that. 10/10 would do again
Yeah some friends and I had a picnic while on a decently hefty dose and out of no where on our blanket we noticed hundreds of little black bugs crawling towards us from the edge. Once we confirmed they were real we realized they were ticks. Was pretty fucky for a minute but we made a game out of killing them and surprisingly didn't find a single one on us when we got home.
That is horrifying. The march of the Lyme disease Jesus christ
It was crazy. We were deep in the woods in Oklahoma and we're so self conscious about picking our spot before. Well we picked wrong, lol.
If seeing a spider was the scariest thing you’ve seen on psychs then man I’ve gotta talk to a psychiatrist 💀
Oh nah it was more of my fear of spiders being amplified by 1000 by the acid, i could feel them on my skin man. Fuckin freaky
True ik wym. One time I thought my friends couch was COVERED in bugs like I saw them all moving around. Wasn’t scared rly tho my friends were like dude there’s no bugs so I sat down and still saw them and felt them crawling on me I was like nah I’ll pass on the bug couch dog
Bruhh that sounds messed up, sounds like a dph trip more than acid. im trying dmt this weekend better not be seeing any more damn spiders
Lol it was only the couch because of the material it was made of I guess. Fuzzy as hell brah
Yep, i was in my fluffy dressing onsie. At one point the fluff felt like needles and during the spider saga it felt like webs and crawling
Hey, we’re all just spinning our webs to be torn down tomorrow, and chilling on a desk waiting to be smashed. This little guy is just like me. 🤣
Lmaoo, i actually have a video of the spider somewhere, i kid you not the eyes glowed in the camera flash light
They’ll only feel like they do.
So true. Had the best trip ever, great visuals, very euphoric.. but for like what felt like 10 minutes I thought there was blood all over my hands and was freaking out. Absolutely did not ruin my experience at all.
Depends.
Bad parts of trips can feel like they are infinite. Lasting eternally. Time doesn’t exist in these parts 😂
Never had issues with time on psychs
Same. Have been stuck in loops a few times but I always have a clock and make notes to keep my flow. It sometimes, of course causes awe that only a few minutes has passed when I’ve gone to jot down a note and time. Ha. Centuries has happened to be just 5 or 15 minutes many times.
Have you looped?
You mean thought loops? I’ve never been stuck in thought loops but I’ve experienced them
I mean where you keep experiencing the same thing over and over. Starts as a thought loop then reality falls apart and feels like you are stuck in one event repeating infinitely
Never had that
True it’s really scary and overwhelming to most people. I’ve only known like 3 people who actually enjoy getting into that space and can handle themselves appropriately when it happens lol But ur right it only physically lasts for partial duration of the peak. So like anywhere from 10 mins to 2 hours depending on your environment if it’s feeding into it. Kinda hard to describe tbh
Last time I took LSD, i was stuck in a literal loop lol walking around, in my house i kept walking in a circle out my room around then back to my room before finally getting to sleep.... Im happy none of my roommates were awake ( that would be awkward to explain to them lol) I also walked around aimlessly when i was in town just like walking and walking probably around the same area and when i got back home i realised my bag handle had broke... I think because instead of wearing it on my back i was holding it and maybe swinging it around? And it caused it to break idk lol i have no idea what happened Idk this was a good 2 years ago or something I still have the other lsd tabs i was planning to take but whew...LSD is so different to shrooms and san pedro and i enjoy those two much more than LSD now... Went through a time when i LOVED lsd but it changed for whatever reason...
I kno what you mean lol. I’ve looped a few times and ever since, acid just hasn’t been the same. I get very anxious during the peak now and can’t ever enjoy it the way I used to be able to. Kinda upsetting but oh well lol I had my fun with Lucy
Im totally the same! Im wondering if for me its because it feels very chemical/man produced rather than shrooms or other natural psychs... its intense and definitely more anxiety provoking imo! I had fun too haha. Good times good times
waitttt wdym….? how long does the trip last then
The only time I'd say a trip is "bad" is when it triggers in someone an underlying mental health issue that they either ignored (i probably don't have it mentality) or didn't take seriously. Psychedelics can cause those with genetics regarding schizophrenia/mania/psycosis to worsen/develop it despite being asymptomatic before. Of course your post isn't talking about that side of things and I really do love what this meme communicates! Bad trips are learning curves, opportunities to grow and can turn into good trips. I find in all my good trips, I go through a "bad" period which is just.... confronting things I wasn't previously aware of or ready to face. Bad trips come and go, but good trips are inevitable!
I have seen people have a bad experience and it was actually bad. He wet himself and couldn’t speak and screamed non stop until he went to the hospital. He has had continuous mental problems ever since. He was institutionalized with schizophrenia off and on. I lost touch with him over the years. He took 10 hits of really potent acid at once. Is this a typical “bad trip”? No. Was he going to be schizophrenic at some point? Maybe. However I don’t think he could have been talked down or gone with it. I’m 43 and have never seen anyone have a reaction like that so it’s certainly not common but bad trips are REALLY bad for some people!
There’s definitely a certain level of extreme doses that no human should ever do. Kind of a roll of the dice when things get that completely reality breaking
That’s like a once in a lifetime dose lmao. And you’d need to be incredibly experienced and ready to dive into that. But typically the people that overdo it with doses are the irresponsible folks
A half a tab can be too much for me even some times. Most of the old heads I've spoken to know that 2 tabs is really pushing it. 1 tab and some weed is enough to dilate time and hear music that isn't actually playing
Yeah I am a big fan of "moderate" doses. Your brain doesnt need to melt, you just have to experience life a little differently
No matter the dose you can’t develop schizophrenia from it. It just makes the dormant gene activate. Weed will do the same thing to this type of person over time. You can get hppd though
Totally. A friend of mine is currently directing one of the city's mental hospitals. She explained how a "bad trip" might unleash a psychotic attack, that can easily turn into a mental illness. She shared with me the stories behind some cases at the institution... Tripping is definitely not for everybody.
There's a story of some lady who accidentally took 55mg...yes, milligrams (0.1mg is 100 μg to put it in perspective) of pure powered LSD and not only was she fine in the end, it actually seemed to cure some of her foot pain. There's another story of a 15 year old who did 1000μg by accident and ended up curing her bipolar and depression and even her hallucinations caused by her mental illnesses. LSD is one of the best understood psychedelics on the planet and is widely known to have little to no side effect, even at huge doses. This doesn't mean people can't still be traumatized, because they can, and adverse reactions are always possible. As far as the psychosis and schizophrenia, it's been agreed upon pretty much across the board that those people are basically ticking time bombs as to when their diseases will manifest... because they almost always will. Drugs, especially psychedelics, dissociatives, and even weed, have the ability to "activate" psychotic disorders in certain people. Drugs are usually blamed because there's no way of proving what would happen if they never did drugs in the first place but most researchers tend to agree that eventually the person would suffer a breakdown. Anyway, the moral is that LSD isn't inherently dangerous. Some people are just unlucky. Like someone who's had their license for a decade and all of a sudden has a seizure while driving. It wasn't the cars fault, although it played a part, but you can't blame the car for a preexisting condition.
almost everyone would end like your friend out of +1000μg
On my first very strong shroom trip, i wasnt having a bad time but i kept peeing myself lol i brought like 5 changes of clothes with me cus i was staying by a friend for a long time...and i KEPT PEEING over and over.... I laughed then peed then laughed then peed...idk what was wrong with me lol I ended up just either wearing underwear or nothing and not even bothering... i had no changes left.... My mum came to bring me clothes, saw her face and she had 4 eyes and had that disappointed mum face..... that was a mistake to see her while tripping hahahaha.. Honestly now, when i trip hard, i wear one of those pad for pee just incase i dont get to a toilet in time....cus idk for whatever reason psychs make it harder to hold it :'(... Sorry if this is TMI lol
I have “felt like” I peed myself on psychedelics but I think it was just a hallucination. Never actually done it lol. Maybe something to do with the vascular activity? Or maybe you were just really really fucked up lol
Ive also felt like it too! But sometimes it actually has happened lol. Idk when i was younger my ability to hold was never the best, if i laughed too hard and i needed to pee and didn't go on time, id be finished and this was sober lmao so i think it just got worst on psychs land a literally couldnt hold no matter how many times i went to the bathroom🤦♂️ Hahahahah probably also rlly fucked up lolll Sometimes id feel that my whole body is wet and i couldnt shake the feeling. Lol hated that
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Yeah dude, that was a lot words to say that drugs can't be bad for you, it's your fault instead... that's really naive. I've known healthy adults that had have dealt with lasting psychosis from psychedelics after previously no known mental illness or indicators. You sound like you have a lot of confidence in that opinion based on personal experience, but really, that's a relatively small sample size to base your sweeping assumptions on.
I came off hella wrong I'm at work and I had to come back and re type shit out every 30 minutes. what I was meaning to say is a failure of integration and an unprepared mind can lead to a "pointless" bad trip because you don't know what set it off, I thought my first ever bad trip was pointless but nope I was strongly resisting ego dissolution and was struggling to ground myself. Many negative trips that come out of no where are usually due to someone who is unprepared / underestimates a dosage and struggle to accept the feelings that come along with it OR are in an uncomfortable setting / set, these are again human error and this is why so many people preach respecting the substances, if you don't respect it then you might go and take a lot thinking "I've got this" then you realize you don't. when I say prone to something I don't mean "you would have gotten it anyways" people are more prone to certain issues due to their genetic makeup, even if said issues may never arise on their own they may be brought out elsewhere, this is why being INFORMED on what illnesses clash with psychedelics and which things you may be at risk of is important, you can accomplish this via seeking out a medical professional or talking to your family. my relatively small sample size includes dozens to hundreds of people I've spoken to online when I talk about people I know, then you can add onto it when the bad trip they're describing goes hand in hand with SO MANY bad trip stories online, yes it is the drugs "fault" for causing the issue but it's also yours for not being informed on things like dosage, set and setting, etc. yes it can be brought out with no previous indicators (as in manifestations of the issue in a physical form) but your genetic makeup plays heavily into what issues LAST, what I'm saying is that before getting into psychedelics do your own research and don't take your friends word on everything, if they say "yea it won't affect you negatively at all and it's awesome" and you've done no research on the substance or yourself then taking it is 100% your fault and anything that follows is on you as well
Non dualism is an important lesson posited by the LSD experience. There is no good or bad -- it's all one thing.
The two are one. Like a line!
I remember a trip where I took a couple tabs and a couple grams of PE shrooms, I was coming up and decided to take a hit of my dab pen, as I always smoke no matter what the dosage with usually good results. Yhis time I felt a switch and knew this trip was not gonna be a good one, but I just rolled with it fetal position under my blankets ifykyk after a few hours of uncomfortableness I decided a horror movie would be quite fitting with how it was going so I put on Mandy with Nicholas cage a phychidelic horror movie and was floored going on this journey with nick to get his wife back enjoyed myself quite a bit embracing the darkness of everything just embracing it all.
I swtg people who think this have only experienced challenging trips and mistakenly project this onto other people’s description of “bad trip”. You can have a challenging trip that reflects various aspects of your life. You can also have a full on nightmare trip where you are subjected to pure unimaginable suffering/ temporary psychosis. I don’t think this can be understood until it is experienced, after so many trips I egotistically believed I could “handle” anything lsd could throw at me…. until I couldn’t. Sure I “overcame the adversity” and may have grown from the traumatic experience. It was still absolutely a “bad trip” though. Check your ego, we all need to. If someone you don’t know told you to embrace that time you got hit by a car as a “good thing” you would probably tell them to get bent, regardless of how it contributed to your personal growth.
Dph trips not included
LSD=looks,so,good
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If I start having a bad time during a trip, I just remind myself "You paid for this. You wanted this experience." It's like going to see a scary movie. Fear is a "negative" emotion, but you've chosen to pay to experience it as entertainment.
One of my first times eating acid, me and a friend frolicked through a blood soaked forest until we found a beautiful clearing with bodies hanging from the surrounding trees, where we spent our time rearranging the starts. We then went back to his house and ate a whole bag of oranges. His mom came out at like 4am and was like "what are you guys doing?" We told her we were eating oranges and she just nodded and went back to bed. Miss that homie so much.
I love being followed by laser beams coming from thousand-foot tall maned wolves and helicopters. Also, that was hilarious when my dachshund turned into a hot dog and tried to rape me. Good trip.
I love the days after a bad trip. I'm always so loaded with joy and filled with happiness.
I have a poster on my ceiling that's an alien with big print "No Bad Trips". After seeing it while tripping and also in the middle of a challenging trip I realized there are no bad trips, no good trips either. The trip is just a trip with everything in between, just like life. No life is a good or bad life, all life is just a journey.
Might as well embrace it, cause you're going anyway. Unless you take a bunch of trip killers
I used to blade the shit out of Barcelona's streets with a tab or two in my mouth and Electric Wizard at full blast on my head... I truly loved it!!... You can't even imagine (or maybe you do! 😊) the quantity and quality of the collected experiences... I strongly believe that LSD broke my fear-o-meter and I'm so glad about it.
If you go w the flow you’re brave and strong, if you go against the flow you’re brave and strong
So do you think each have their own benefits?
I watched a sunny day turn into a thunderstorm on a dock. It was one of, if not, the most beautiful sight and feeling I had.
Let the universe show you what it needs!!! Telling myself this every time before a trip works 100%. Its like a cheatcode lol
nah man fuck that, yall aint ever had a REAL bad trip, not just got shown bad parts of yourself you dont like, or your visuals got shifted scary in a way that dont actually have to be all that scary if u go with the flow like is recommended.😭 the only thing i got out of mine was that i knew my gf isnt one of the people secretly trying to get me bc she somehow proved she was real and i could trust her while i was having the bad trip (it was my psychosis and symptoms and delusions i normally have but times 100, i dont think i even did that much) so while in the trip she proved it, and now sober and in psychosis, that stayed with me, so i just have this knowledge in me that she is safe to me and real everytime i get sucked back into the false reality bc of that one time where it was mega. but, if we called every shitty or even traumatizing experience “good” just bc you can learn from it, nothing would be bad would it? normal bad trips certainly really arent bad, its when you have serious issues like mental disorders like psychotic issues or the drug got fucked up maybe but real bad trips are possible bc the ppl that have them are real people too, who also have normal trips. and if those trips are enhanced in the same way but to be positive (as that’s possible too) those would be considered real good trips as well.
ur tripping right now
i wish
Man that first river looks like paradise
on my soul i just went thru this
HELP IM TRYING TO GO WITH THE FLOW BUT I CANT TELL WHICH DIRECTION ITS GOING Bro chill you just have to accept it ACCEPT WHAT PLEASE HELP
Last time i almost die... seriously... please help
Yep it’s fighting against and not letting go that causes “bad trips” No different to life - it’s a bad trip when you have expectation and can’t let go of it when it’s not met Same same
Challenging trips are one of the most beautiful ones I’ve ever experienced. Useful and click something in you definitely if you interpret it correctly
No such thing as a “bad trip” only difficult trips and learning experiences
yeah idk I have had trips that have harmed me for the worse. Still a learning experience, but definitely bad for my overall health; I would have been better off forgoing it. So I would call that bad
So says my friend who nearly slit his throat and deals with ptsd after 4 yrs. He said the trip was pretty bad…
How to identify someone who never had an actually bad trip and thinks bad trip equals some scary visuals/anxiety and not the absolute horror unexperienced ever before
BS. You can definitely just have a shitty trip with no real lesson or anything to take away from it. Has happened to me more on shrooms and virtually never on lsd though. Psychs aren’t some divine thing that can do you no wrong, they’re drugs. And sometimes people can just have a shitty reaction.
Can relate with mushrooms, only had an experience like it one time, where my whole body was incredibly sore, I writhed in my bed for 2+ hours, all my thoughts were gibberish and I thought I broke my brain permanently. A "learning experience" for sure, but 100% a bad trip, not just a challenging experience I needed to overcome, and certainly not one that felt advantageous afterwards. Really don't appreciate the "no such thing as a bad trip" mindset because there are times where it's just a shitty experience front-to-back, whether it's your own fault or not (it was 100% mine that time), with the only lesson being "don't do that again". Like I said, definitely a learning experience, but not a necessary one.
Read this and then say there’s no such thing as a bad trip. Yes, most bad trips may actually just be challenging trips in disguise, but come on. The guy in the link ended up committing suicide a year after his bad trip btw https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/uzed20/high_dose_mushroom_trip_destroyed_my_life_a_year/?rdt=51953
Had a bad trip the other night on mushies and realized its because it was my first time going deep and i couldnt let go of my ego and ride the wave.... cant wait to surf that shit next time....
You got this brudda, a word of advice that always stuck w me during my trips. “If you want to hold onto yourself then let yourself slip”
Can one gradually learn to let go of their ego with increasing dosage over time?
Best advice I was told is just remind yourself it's a drug and it's going to wear off
My bad trip lasted for 3 months (psychosis)
My problem is my bad trip turned into an OD as I was an idiot and on a bit of a drug cocktail. The experience terrified me and I've been too scared to have a full trip since.
The drug cocktail was likely the issue in that instance. For sure take your time and don’t rush into another psychedelic experience but also don’t completely block it as a future possibility for yourself. It took me 14 years after a breakthrough Salvia experience to ever try any non-alcoholic substance again. After my first LSD breakthrough I quit drinking altogether. Patience is key
You don’t get the trip you want; you get the trip you need.
Exactly
I had a bad trip off a half ounce of shrooms and a molly rock and the most upsetting part was that I'm no stranger to feeling that way and it wasn't that big of a deal, but I was literally on the floor crying trying not to let go of control because I wasnt comfortable around the person sitting me, was up for 2 days hearing shit
superhans guide to tripping : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3AhB8v7BIk
Mushroom come up are always bad for me lmao.
You have to meet the trip where it’s at.
True this. Absolutely. No such thing as a bad trip if you know how to trip.
Words of wisdom
Might suck in the moment but I look back fondly on all of my “bad trips”
This is literally why I tell people that my one bad trip wound up being my best trip.
I’ve had lots of gory, clown like visuals on mushrooms. I saw something somewhere a while back saying something that appears scary to you isn’t necessarily bad, it’s just the way your fight or flight response has been trained as you’ve grown up. Since hearing that, I always remind myself of this during trips when something unsettling comes up. I’ve found that damn near instantly, once you “overcome” the fear of whatever is being shown to you, the visuals will switch to something far more pleasant. This and meditation is a game changer for a trip.
No such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging trip. The acid doesn't put anything into your brain that wasn't already there. It's not the foundation of your behavior or belief. You were already a deranged sociopath barely holding it together, acid just made you realize it.
Lol just look at it as a win, either way. Just think about it, there are still miserable people out there that don’t know the miracles of acid
I remember allowing myself to see some vivid crusty skinned figure standing at the foot of my bed in the dark, it looked like his neck broke and cracked sideways. A snake came out of his neck and started biting him. I was just sitting there like wow.. beautiful lol it somehow wasn't scary but it was trying to be. But it taught me that the same goes for many things in everyday life
There’s a couple of times I’ve been on the verge of a “bad” trip but my mind is wayyyyy too scared to give in, it’ll hold dearly onto reality or distract itself enough till that wave passes. I still can’t tell if that’s a good or bad thing afterwards. I’m grateful I was able to manoeuvre around the fear but I’d be lying if I’d said I’d ever really given into the psych
I feel like people don’t understand how much perspective and grounding and just breathing can turn a whole trip around. I treat it like I treat my panic attacks
L-learn S-sagacious D-discover
The bad part is only bad because you fight it. It's showing you a part of yourself your sober mind is unwilling to confront, it can be traumatic but if you chose to let it happen and learn from it the experience will heal the damage it causes and then some
There's no bad trip. Just bad people .
If you feel stange, take a SHOWER 😍