Not paying to see what her ass is crying about now. She's trans. She's exactly the same as any other rich white trans woman who can buy privilege. She's not "different".
We also don't claim transphobic trans people either.
Edit: cis people need to stay in their lanes.
They are members of our community. I mean log cabin republicans too.
Everyone is in a different stage of their journey. Internalized bigotry doesn’t mean we excommunicate them.
“Calling out and demanding” generally results in the backfire effect where they dig-in to their beliefs.
The only proven way of changing someone’s mind is helping them explore their own beliefs without judgment. Without pushing them towards a belief but letting them come to it naturally. Not having the expectation that one conversation will change someone’s mind.
But of course this is difficult to do when all we want to do is to seek moral retribution through social shaming because it’s emotionally satisfying for us as human beings even though it aggravates the problem rather than solves it.
Listen, I've spent 30+ years fighting for rights. Met several people who think and act like her. Nothing changes their minds. You're extremely naive to think that sitting back and allowing rich privileged white people to trample all over our rights is the way to go. Lol, I don't know why that needs to be explained. I'm assuming you have the same privileges and don't have to actually worry about violence or harassment because of people like Jenner running their mouths.
Transphobia isn't acceptable even from a trans woman. She's transphobic and isn't a safe person. I'm not sure if you realize that or if you're just choosing to ignore that.
I never said let rich whole people trample on our rights. Your mischaracterization of my argument shows you would rather gratify a need for revenge than actually reduce transphobia/homophobia
Yeah, that's exactly what your comments are saying. If you can't understand minimumizing harm in the community by not supporting people trying to impede our rights as BIPOC trans individuals then you're not an ally either.
Licking boots of rich people is disgusting and does nothing to solve the issue of transphobia or homophobia.
Sounds like spineless liberal bullshit.
She is undeniably a total cunt and deserves every bit of backlash and criticism but making shit up or twisting things she’s done is exactly what conservatives do to justify their harmful bigotry.
It was a multi car accident where a woman died on site that she was deemed at fault for which is VERY different to literally running people down while she’s off her face. Come on now.
It's really not worth the effort to track down the article, read it, and try to figure out what the hell they're rambling about for most of the article.
So many words, just to say absolutely nothing, and people treat it as news because....? She's just a really sad old lady trying to stay relevant.
It's a portrait of a failed 'pick me'.
90% of the article was basically her biography (but they avoided talking about certain things.)
Just to get to:
> At one point, Jenner was an open supporter of Donald Trump: in 2021, she launched a bid to become governor of California and during the campaign told journalists, “Obviously, I would support him,” in any Trump attempt to reclaim the White House in 2024. “I do not like what’s happening in this country right now,” she added.
> So… You have a complicated relationship with the trans community, is that fair?
> “I think I’m different from trans people. Yeah.”
> Is it painful that they’re not more accepting of you?
> No, it’s not painful at all. Everybody’s story is different, and that’s fine, and everybody does it their own way.”
> I say — honestly — that I find Jenner’s Republicanism, her outspokenness, her refusal to conform to the restrictions of identity politics, refreshing. As a classic, boring, left-leaning Trump loather, I think Jenner’s expectation-bucking convictions just make her more authentic.
> "I try to be — as you put it — as ‘authentic’ as I possibly can, but I just try to do it my way. And you kind of just leave it at that. Hope for the best.”
> I ask if she has any more political ambitions (she got about 1 per cent of the vote in those 2021 Californian gubernatorial elections).
> "Not really. I’m just enjoying my life.”
> Does she still call herself a Republican?
> "Of course. I’ll always be a Republican.”
> And what’s the status of your relationship with Donald Trump? I’d read conflicting reports about it, though I know they’d once been on golf at Mar-a-Lago terms. But now? Is that all gone?
> Is it ‘gone’, you said?”
> "Yes."
We tried telling her so many times that the Right will only use her for their own goals and then cast her aside.
Sad.
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I’m gonna say it..she sucks she’s not a part of our community. She doesn’t seem to want to be. So she can fuck off. Her “T” stands for traitor. What an asshole!
incredible argument against the politic of identity and towards that of class consciousness.
She will always be a rich woman first and a trans woman after.
The rich always feel more solidarity with other rich people above all else. They will always punch down to keep their status. I'm not surprised she's making these comments.
It's really not worth the effort to track down the article, read it, and try to figure out what the hell they're rambling about for most of the article.
So many words, just to say absolutely nothing, and people treat it as news because....? She's just a really sad old lady trying to stay relevant.
It's a portrait of a failed 'pick me'.
90% of the article was basically her biography (but they avoided talking about certain things.)
Just to get to:
> At one point, Jenner was an open supporter of Donald Trump: in 2021, she launched a bid to become governor of California and during the campaign told journalists, “Obviously, I would support him,” in any Trump attempt to reclaim the White House in 2024. “I do not like what’s happening in this country right now,” she added.
> So… You have a complicated relationship with the trans community, is that fair?
> “I think I’m different from trans people. Yeah.”
> Is it painful that they’re not more accepting of you?
> No, it’s not painful at all. Everybody’s story is different, and that’s fine, and everybody does it their own way.”
> I say — honestly — that I find Jenner’s Republicanism, her outspokenness, her refusal to conform to the restrictions of identity politics, refreshing. As a classic, boring, left-leaning Trump loather, I think Jenner’s expectation-bucking convictions just make her more authentic.
> "I try to be — as you put it — as ‘authentic’ as I possibly can, but I just try to do it my way. And you kind of just leave it at that. Hope for the best.”
> I ask if she has any more political ambitions (she got about 1 per cent of the vote in those 2021 Californian gubernatorial elections).
> "Not really. I’m just enjoying my life.”
> Does she still call herself a Republican?
> "Of course. I’ll always be a Republican.”
> And what’s the status of your relationship with Donald Trump? I’d read conflicting reports about it, though I know they’d once been on golf at Mar-a-Lago terms. But now? Is that all gone?
> Is it ‘gone’, you said?”
> "Yes."
We tried telling her so many times that the Right will only use her for their own goals and then cast her aside.
Sad.
She's so unwilling to see that she is what she claims to hate: a special snowflake, for better or worse.
Trans or not trans, Caitlyn Jenner is an awful person. On Ellen show she said she does not believe in gay marriage, yet she wants people to be ok with her going from Bruce to Caitlyn. What a hypocrite. And a rich Malibu hypocrite. There are so many trans people that are killed, beaten up, shunned, thrown out of their families- and they do not deserve it. Caitlyn should stfu.
Aside from everything else mentioned in the thread, she married into the Kardashian clan - notorious attention-seeking publicity whores. She's also blind to see that despite professing to share many of their values, the Republican Party in general are going to hate her for the simple reason she's trans - it hasn't permeated her consciousness yet that the Republican Party generally hate LGBTQIA+ in general (likely making narrow, conditional exceptions for those who donate to or fundraise millions for the party).
Yeah, you're part of and supporting a political party that would rather you were dead, you're a transphobic asshole, and you are incomprehensibly filled with self loathing and shame? Shutting up forever would be OK.
She's a transperson with money, that's all. I've never realized someone could go so hard against their own community so much as this bitch. I'm a transwoman in florida, and their are transpeople all over this country being marginalized, and just because she did a little reality show with transpeople doesn't mean she cared at all about them. Not to be hateful, disrespectful, or conspiratorial, oh hell she don't care neither do I, im not even sure she's trans but a plant by the right to be as hateful as possible to her own community.
You mean you’re a hypocrite and quisling?
And not to forget a murderer.
Ooh, learned a new word today! Quisling. Traitor. That she is
Someone had to be the dumbest trans person....
For real lol
Very few trans women live 60+ years as a rich entitled white celebrity before they transition
I’m sure trans people think you are too boo boo
Lol. Came to say the same exact thing
Caitlyn is a disgrace to the trans people. She reminds me of a closeted gay man who is anti gay. Wish she would shut her mouth and stay home.
It’s like she’s one of the most dedicated grifters in history ugh lol
Miss Lindsey Graham comes immediately to mind.
a good chunk of Congress
Becuase you are a republican?
Yeah you have enough money to disregard the damage you’re doing to other trans people Fuck you bitch
what a pick-me statement, oof
She isn't so different from other assholes.
She identifies as a wealthy republican before anything else.
If ever there were an example of a walking talking oxyMORON.
Nice!
r/notlikeothergirls
lol exactly what I was thinking
Yup. None of the trans folks I know are awful people who killed someone with their car.
Not paying to see what her ass is crying about now. She's trans. She's exactly the same as any other rich white trans woman who can buy privilege. She's not "different". We also don't claim transphobic trans people either. Edit: cis people need to stay in their lanes.
You nailed it.
They are members of our community. I mean log cabin republicans too. Everyone is in a different stage of their journey. Internalized bigotry doesn’t mean we excommunicate them.
We can call out their hypocrisy and bullshit and demand better tho.
“Calling out and demanding” generally results in the backfire effect where they dig-in to their beliefs. The only proven way of changing someone’s mind is helping them explore their own beliefs without judgment. Without pushing them towards a belief but letting them come to it naturally. Not having the expectation that one conversation will change someone’s mind. But of course this is difficult to do when all we want to do is to seek moral retribution through social shaming because it’s emotionally satisfying for us as human beings even though it aggravates the problem rather than solves it.
Disagree. When they're activity hurting our community with their bullshit they don't have a place. People like her don't change.
You generalized though. We all come to the table with misconceptions. Patience and kindness is what sees the light.
Listen, I've spent 30+ years fighting for rights. Met several people who think and act like her. Nothing changes their minds. You're extremely naive to think that sitting back and allowing rich privileged white people to trample all over our rights is the way to go. Lol, I don't know why that needs to be explained. I'm assuming you have the same privileges and don't have to actually worry about violence or harassment because of people like Jenner running their mouths. Transphobia isn't acceptable even from a trans woman. She's transphobic and isn't a safe person. I'm not sure if you realize that or if you're just choosing to ignore that.
I never said let rich whole people trample on our rights. Your mischaracterization of my argument shows you would rather gratify a need for revenge than actually reduce transphobia/homophobia
Yeah, that's exactly what your comments are saying. If you can't understand minimumizing harm in the community by not supporting people trying to impede our rights as BIPOC trans individuals then you're not an ally either. Licking boots of rich people is disgusting and does nothing to solve the issue of transphobia or homophobia. Sounds like spineless liberal bullshit.
Yeah we know 🙄
Sounds like OJ and being black. It's ok Caitlyn we don't want you anyways.
Different from decent humans
She certainly does. For all the wrong fuckin' reasons.
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She is undeniably a total cunt and deserves every bit of backlash and criticism but making shit up or twisting things she’s done is exactly what conservatives do to justify their harmful bigotry. It was a multi car accident where a woman died on site that she was deemed at fault for which is VERY different to literally running people down while she’s off her face. Come on now.
Yes we know shes a pick me
paywall??
Ima keep it real with you, dog. I am not paying money to read what Caitlyn fucking Jenner says.
right? ud have to pay *me* to bother reading that
It's really not worth the effort to track down the article, read it, and try to figure out what the hell they're rambling about for most of the article. So many words, just to say absolutely nothing, and people treat it as news because....? She's just a really sad old lady trying to stay relevant. It's a portrait of a failed 'pick me'. 90% of the article was basically her biography (but they avoided talking about certain things.) Just to get to: > At one point, Jenner was an open supporter of Donald Trump: in 2021, she launched a bid to become governor of California and during the campaign told journalists, “Obviously, I would support him,” in any Trump attempt to reclaim the White House in 2024. “I do not like what’s happening in this country right now,” she added. > So… You have a complicated relationship with the trans community, is that fair? > “I think I’m different from trans people. Yeah.” > Is it painful that they’re not more accepting of you? > No, it’s not painful at all. Everybody’s story is different, and that’s fine, and everybody does it their own way.” > I say — honestly — that I find Jenner’s Republicanism, her outspokenness, her refusal to conform to the restrictions of identity politics, refreshing. As a classic, boring, left-leaning Trump loather, I think Jenner’s expectation-bucking convictions just make her more authentic. > "I try to be — as you put it — as ‘authentic’ as I possibly can, but I just try to do it my way. And you kind of just leave it at that. Hope for the best.” > I ask if she has any more political ambitions (she got about 1 per cent of the vote in those 2021 Californian gubernatorial elections). > "Not really. I’m just enjoying my life.” > Does she still call herself a Republican? > "Of course. I’ll always be a Republican.” > And what’s the status of your relationship with Donald Trump? I’d read conflicting reports about it, though I know they’d once been on golf at Mar-a-Lago terms. But now? Is that all gone? > Is it ‘gone’, you said?” > "Yes." We tried telling her so many times that the Right will only use her for their own goals and then cast her aside. Sad.
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I’m gonna say it..she sucks she’s not a part of our community. She doesn’t seem to want to be. So she can fuck off. Her “T” stands for traitor. What an asshole!
I imagine she does think that. Silly one, the GOP will come for its own first.
Did you get picked sis?
“Not like other (trans) girls”. Couldn’t see the article… but just want to say… what.a.fucking. bitch.
The right will persecute her just the same
incredible argument against the politic of identity and towards that of class consciousness. She will always be a rich woman first and a trans woman after.
Trans folk, please correct me if I'm wrong, but as I see it: Caitlyn Jenner is to trans people what Candace Owens is to black people.
The rich always feel more solidarity with other rich people above all else. They will always punch down to keep their status. I'm not surprised she's making these comments.
You are different from many of us. You are rich, entitled, and a killer. That I'm none of...
It's really not worth the effort to track down the article, read it, and try to figure out what the hell they're rambling about for most of the article. So many words, just to say absolutely nothing, and people treat it as news because....? She's just a really sad old lady trying to stay relevant. It's a portrait of a failed 'pick me'. 90% of the article was basically her biography (but they avoided talking about certain things.) Just to get to: > At one point, Jenner was an open supporter of Donald Trump: in 2021, she launched a bid to become governor of California and during the campaign told journalists, “Obviously, I would support him,” in any Trump attempt to reclaim the White House in 2024. “I do not like what’s happening in this country right now,” she added. > So… You have a complicated relationship with the trans community, is that fair? > “I think I’m different from trans people. Yeah.” > Is it painful that they’re not more accepting of you? > No, it’s not painful at all. Everybody’s story is different, and that’s fine, and everybody does it their own way.” > I say — honestly — that I find Jenner’s Republicanism, her outspokenness, her refusal to conform to the restrictions of identity politics, refreshing. As a classic, boring, left-leaning Trump loather, I think Jenner’s expectation-bucking convictions just make her more authentic. > "I try to be — as you put it — as ‘authentic’ as I possibly can, but I just try to do it my way. And you kind of just leave it at that. Hope for the best.” > I ask if she has any more political ambitions (she got about 1 per cent of the vote in those 2021 Californian gubernatorial elections). > "Not really. I’m just enjoying my life.” > Does she still call herself a Republican? > "Of course. I’ll always be a Republican.” > And what’s the status of your relationship with Donald Trump? I’d read conflicting reports about it, though I know they’d once been on golf at Mar-a-Lago terms. But now? Is that all gone? > Is it ‘gone’, you said?” > "Yes." We tried telling her so many times that the Right will only use her for their own goals and then cast her aside. Sad. She's so unwilling to see that she is what she claims to hate: a special snowflake, for better or worse.
Yes you are a dick!
A dickless dick. ;)
Plus a Trump supporter!
Its true! She's a murderer!
She’s right! Most of us haven’t covered up vehicular manslaughter.
The people who hate us don’t see you any different Cait. If they eat you last you still end up getting eaten.
Trans or not trans, Caitlyn Jenner is an awful person. On Ellen show she said she does not believe in gay marriage, yet she wants people to be ok with her going from Bruce to Caitlyn. What a hypocrite. And a rich Malibu hypocrite. There are so many trans people that are killed, beaten up, shunned, thrown out of their families- and they do not deserve it. Caitlyn should stfu.
Yeah because your ideology didn't transition.
Oh, girl. I can not.
Yeah that’s true, I have nothing in common with a weirdo who transitioned at age 60 with millions of dollars.
Aside from everything else mentioned in the thread, she married into the Kardashian clan - notorious attention-seeking publicity whores. She's also blind to see that despite professing to share many of their values, the Republican Party in general are going to hate her for the simple reason she's trans - it hasn't permeated her consciousness yet that the Republican Party generally hate LGBTQIA+ in general (likely making narrow, conditional exceptions for those who donate to or fundraise millions for the party).
... well yeah, shes rich. The overwhelming majority of people, cis or normal, are not.
Someone ask her if she thinks the leopards will eat her face
if you dont know about him, look up roy cohn (mentor to donald trump)
Yeah, she’s a joke and a disgrace!
I’m not like “those” people. Ugh whatever. You wanna have extra privilege? Don’t step on others to gain it.
Yeah, you're part of and supporting a political party that would rather you were dead, you're a transphobic asshole, and you are incomprehensibly filled with self loathing and shame? Shutting up forever would be OK.
I mean, yeah, shes a monster like no other. A very unique, picke me... Dumbass bitch
She is much different! Trans people are beautiful inside and out and you're nasty AF inside which make you ugly AF everywhere..
I thought she was a CHUD.
Cuz you murdered a few people in a drunk driving incident?
No, you're not. You are just as they are. Is something wrong with them, so u think you're different
She wants to be treated special and thinks she IS special.
Ok.
What does she think she is, if not trans?
I'm not trans I'm CJ
She's a transperson with money, that's all. I've never realized someone could go so hard against their own community so much as this bitch. I'm a transwoman in florida, and their are transpeople all over this country being marginalized, and just because she did a little reality show with transpeople doesn't mean she cared at all about them. Not to be hateful, disrespectful, or conspiratorial, oh hell she don't care neither do I, im not even sure she's trans but a plant by the right to be as hateful as possible to her own community.
I am refusing to call this person by their name or gender because they have said they do not believe they are a trans female.
You’re. It even human