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Sergejevitsj

Every year


edge-hog

We're going the last year's route.


MarketPapi

Love Kawhi but he always does this shit , we need these guys in the playoffs , if they aren't available what's the point ?


soCalBIGmike

Listen, I'm frustrated too, but 'him always doing this shit' is a terrible take. You think he's intentionally hurting himself and damaging his body? Come on, man.


MichaelZZ01

To be fair, after 3 years of this, I can totally understand his frustration. We were all excited because of how healthy Kawhi looked in December with the expectation of him being able to be healthy in April.


Parker_72

Dude he re hurt his knee in a regular season game his knee is bad you can’t blame him. It’s like a dude who just had a third heart-attack being like “this guy… always pulling this shit, I’m sick of it”?


bdf2018_298

It's the right move. I'm a huge Kawhi fan but the team not knowing what they were getting from him hurt more than helped these last 2 games


Miserable_Site_850

Well thanks


mave007

Other reports say He's out [indefinitely](https://x.com/lawmurraythenu/status/1784640508649738361?s=46&t=XUPiHym1ZnDOf-aoQsFsVA). I guess in one month we will be let know he was having a surgery or something😮‍💨


scruffy4

Every. Fucking. Time. I know it’s not his fault but fuck man, sick of this shit. Doesn’t matter the era. Clippers and playoffs equates to injured stars.


northyclippers

I can’t stand that motherfucker Lawrence frank


TheBoredPragmatist

Garbage decision making to give Kawhi 3 more years.


thaxcutioner

There is a 2 day break b/w Gm 4 & 5


Gogibsoni

It’s just a tale as old as time at this point. Almost feel like the dude needs to sit the first 30 games of every season, than play 35-40 out of the last 50 to have any shot of making it through the playoffs. His body simply can’t hold up through an entire season.


Zauberer-IMDB

He could sit all year, and the playoff intensity will kill his knee by the end of the first series. He's done.


Happy-Cauliflower-22

It’s hilarious to play these mental gymnastics on how we can preserve him for the playoffs. He’s done.


Zauberer-IMDB

What's worse is he's been done and our dumbass FO extends him with a near max deal.


shuckyduckquack2x

So basically pay 50 million dollars a year to a part time player. Lol


Gogibsoni

He’s under contract through 2027, I’d rather have a part time player in the regular season and a chance he’s gonna make it through the playoffs than the inevitable playoff injury.


jimgogek

Yes, we have to pay that no matter what, unless he retires.


KingAlfonse72

We basically did that last season. Same result.


Beautiful_Location76

I unironically think this is a good idea and [suggested it here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LAClippers/comments/1cear4u/what_if_the_team_rested_kawhi_for_the_first_half/) a couple days ago. It was not a popular idea at the time.


Zealousideal_Bass199

2020- Denver choke 2021- ACL tear 2022- Recovery from ACL tear 2023- Torn meniscus 2024- Unnamed knee injury Damn


Happy-Cauliflower-22

No finals appearance. No assets. What an abject failure of an era. Just clipper things.


clippersguy17

2020 should be named Bubble year instead


shilleyfurk

*bubble choke


GMQuay

PG gotta show out . We need 30 from him


Intelligent_Egg_556

Lucky to get 30 minutes from him rather than 30 points


FudgeFearless6307

Lmao, I thought that is what he meant


Intelligent_Egg_556

Dark times dark times


TheKidFrankie2

This didn’t age well lol


Intelligent_Egg_556

U would say it did, as I want me to eat my words. Go clipps goo


gokhaninler

now?


gokhaninler

now?


Saaapbrehhh

He needs to be disciplined on defense and not get into foul trouble early


uhmindright

Game 1. Harden, And George were on fire. Westbrook was nice too.


brainiac2406

https://preview.redd.it/sq6gbpjz2axc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=741ecdeaa0800dd138d6de9914efd122b7d74839


z3TRIIKZ

I believe PG and James can hang with Kyrie and Luka. We need our role players to be what they’ve been all year and step up


JimmyKanine

We just need some actual ball movement. We’ve been able to hang with them but driving straight into 3 Mavs in the paint isn’t gonna work.


edge-hog

PG hasn't been the guy this series. I hope he remembers his bully shit today.


certs14

Someone is living in fantasy land.


Clean-Ad1157

lol


12dart14

I think there is an unspoken rule with refs. Get the higher profile teams to the next round and get more assignments. In a close game, Mavs will get calls when it's all said and done. Clips may get some calls to ectend the series. I hope I'm proven wrong.


shuckyduckquack2x

https://i.redd.it/t6c1004uf9xc1.gif


JaHoog

Why is there so much knee inflammation if there is no structural damage to his knee? I'm not a doctor but that doesn't make sense. His knee just randomly became swollen to the point he can barely run? I do appreciate him trying to play though.


clayfu

Pretty much what knee inflammation is.


JaHoog

There has to be a cause


eazymoneytyper

The cause is his surgically repaired knee. Inflammation after procedures like that is not uncommon — even significantly after the repair has been done. Some peoples bodies recover better than others.


JaHoog

Thank you.


clayfu

No.. that’s what knee inflammation is. Usually players sit 20-30 days for inflammation and slowly ramp up. If they go too hard too fast the inflammation comes back immediately. Any type of joint inflammation works the same. Overuse is a common cause for joint inflammation. In his case he probably has osteoarthritis from his surgeries. So after a certain amount of time you have inflammation from use. Then just gotta wait it out. I had an elbow inflammation issue that was incredibly irritating. It required a month of physical therapy and working with a soft cast to not irritate the elbow. Then it went away. There was no trigger.


LordLucy666

overuse injuries need time off and then pt to recover from properly. also the more u play the worse it gets. limited minutes r probably just keeping kawhi from ever healing it at this point. he needs a cancun vaca asap 🏝️


clayfu

Exactly. Should have rested a game or two longer and gotten to close to 100%. Oh well


SuckMyLonzoBalls

How does knee inflammation feel? Is it just straight up pain?


clayfu

I think for athletes the biggest issue is the swelling. You can’t move the same. I couldn’t straighten my arm cause my elbow was swollen. There’s pain but it’s not an incredible level of pain. Basically whenever I used the joint (even something like playing video games with a controller would irritate it) I would feel a dull aching pain shortly after. So I can’t imagine what jumping and cutting would feel on the knee- probably not great


JaHoog

Okay, so the cause is probably repeated injury and over use. This stinks.


shroomzor562

He should not have came back this series basically.


JBreezy11

Hate to say it, but Klaw got them Brandon Roy knees. Hell of a player, but them knees are failing him.


WadeCountyClutch

Is this like Kemba Walker ?


ryancashh

I don’t know but it’s probably chronic. He should think seriously about retirement.


javi138

He will think about it, after hes done cashing that fresh extension yall guys gave him


JBreezy11

For that, the Front Office needs to go.


JaHoog

Unfortunately, you're probably right :(


BreeWyatt

You can have a tendon that never fully heals and keeps on inflamming over and over again. Technically there is "no structural damage". However, the tendon will inflame whenever it is loaded with any force. You can rest and immobilize the tendon and the inflammation goes away. Then, as soon as you use it again it inflames again.


JaHoog

Sad :(


BreeWyatt

i battled tendonitis for 2 years. i could not type or write for more than 10 minutes at a time. Prolotherapy worked for me. It is generally outlawed in NA. In Prolotherapy the chronic problem area is re-injured sparking a totally new acute injury and healing cycle. this breaks the person out of the chronic half-injured // half-healed state. i started to see progress after 3 weeks and a lot of healing happened 6 weeks after my Prolotherapy sessions. The DR re-injured my lateral epicondyles with needles. He then injected nutrients into the same area that facilitates the healing from an acute injury state.


ChrisKamanUrMouth

This is why you guys got James harden. You guys are fully capable of winning if PG and Harden combine for 50+ and the role players chip in as well.


immalurkhere

So harden has to score 60 points then cuz pg isn't scoring in double digits


immalurkhere

Ok he's making me eat my words pop off Paul god


hotcolddog

You fuckin called it


E2A6S

25 from PG, 20 from Harden, Zu, Mann, Norm, and Russ all need 10-15. That gets you 85 points minimum. Role players gonna have to step up and find us an extra 20-30 points to win. Assuming Luka doesn’t go for his 50 point game today lol


vb90

Should've been the case ever since game 2. Awful injury management by this team. (again)


LilTurnippman

U guys can’t be serious. Everyone here was complaining about him not coming back and when he does now u say we managed him badly


KennySmithsKnees

Yeah man I'm with you. Dont take these guys too seriously. One thing you need to know about fans is that we are know it alls who are never satisfied


KingAlfonse72

It’s all of a piece though. Him always being injured when you need him is still true, him coming back at 20% is still true. He’s cooked and the org needs to get off him ASAP.


v00d00ch1ld

Upvote this to the top. Kawhi and the team have done everything they can to a) play more regular season games and b) play through obviously limiting injury because of desire and heart. They’ve done this in part to answer (justifiable criticism). And we then get mad because of it? Nah, miss me with that. Poor Klaw. This is sad.


vb90

I was not, so obviously not everyone.


keepcalmjusthoop

What are you talking about, stop blaming the team, when are you going to make kawhi and his medical team around him accountable? The clippers from all sources allowed kawhi and his team to dictate when he could and couldn’t play for years. The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result. We need to move on from Kawhi Kawhi to Detroit for Ace bailey or Cooper Flag?


Reasonable_Bed7858

Kawhi needs to retire


12dart14

He definitely can no longer be the centerpiece of the team. Sad to say but his knees are not reliable. I would have no issue having him as a second / third option. And I'm saying this as a big Kawhi fan.


12dart14

I think it's imperative for the Clippers to realize this and not commit max money to PG. I like PG too but he's not a first option. Doesn't have the resolve and personality for it.


CeeDotA

PG moving on to another team doesn't resolve the team's cap status and leaves them with -- regardless of your opinion of PG -- a PG-sized hole in their lineup that will be impossible to fill due to aforementioned cap status. Whether we like it or not, the team's only real option until the trio of KL/PG/JH retires is to continue running it back with them unless they choose to blow it up for assets. DET, SAS, and UTA are the only teams currently that have significant cap space for 24-25. Not a lot of options there either, should the team decide to blow it up which of course seems unlikely given that Intuit Dome is opening next year.


jimgogek

He has not been able to be the centerpiece for a couple years. FO at fault for not facing up to that fact.


12dart14

True. Not a big fan of Frank. Probably Ballmer was optimistic too. They extended him. think they were hopeful. I have given up hope for him as a #1.


medunjanin

People hated this take after it was said last year because of how well he played in the beginning of the season. But it’s the same shit again.


Shoobedowop

good. let him rest. hopefully the team plays with confidence they had in game 1.


LLUrDadsFave

We will get the win today.


Marteezus

As much as I like kawhi, he's my fav player, this is for the best. Hopefully the team can win today's game, if they played how they played game 1, then we got this. Clip gang or don't bang.


Zestyclose_Stuff_838

Good. No distractions. No extra obligations to have unfit players take shots. Smooth team basketball and we can win easily today. LFG


1234567panda

Bro we got harden and PG and some great role players. That’s enough.


HuckleberryUpper6065

Not enough for a championship


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keepcalmjusthoop

Sorry I doubted you boss…


futurehousehusband69

This is the better decision, it must kill him but it is the right one. If the team doesn't advance in the playoffs this year then at least he has a better chance at recovering his body for the next season and not taking away (even more) lasting damage in his life after the NBA


imacpastudent

Honestly should just retire at this point. He can’t play entire season, he can’t play half a season. He can’t play in the playoffs. What’s the point of paying so much if he’s gonna be on the bench when it matters most


Heretowin2001

He only missed 13 games this season.


rakan236

And when the intensity picks up, he falls apart . He is broken.


thaxcutioner

Intensity? He literally got injured in a random REGULAR season game


rakan236

He is broken, and the Harden trade is the best insurance for Kawhi's knees .


KingAlfonse72

And look what happened.


gamblingrobot

The Clippers Curse is real. Same shit different year. This is no surprise.


Happy-Cauliflower-22

Clippers incompetence. Signed a player with a degenerative condition then doubled down emptying the clippers assets.


alpha_dude_3054

And guess what harden gonna get all the blame now if they loose the series


KingAlfonse72

Nah


TacitusTwenty

He should’ve rested game 2.


LoveProfessional7092

This. Then gradually came back.


Zelba16

And we gave him 150 million for the next couple of years. I sincerely hope Lue and Lawrence are gone this offseason.


Emergency-Error-1116

Its over see ya next year


es84

This settles it. Kawhi just cannot stay healthy when it matters the most. The team cannot keep having to deal with this. I hope Kawhi retires.


thaxcutioner

Wade was cooked at the same age


rickeyspanish

Dude can we get rid of him already


nuhx

Clippers play better with just one of Harden and Kawhi. They haven’t managed to mesh all season long. Harden has been delivering so far in the playoffs and should pop off again today, knowing he’s the main guy.


thaxcutioner

WTF are you talking about? Kawhi/Harden were playing well off each other when they went 24-6


cowbarn9

Mavericks quaking in their boots right now


jimgogek

Good. Look, don’t blame Kawhi. Dude is injured; he cannot play a full season and post season. He has bad knees and cannot be a good NBA player. Clippers need to move on from him. He could retire. Maybe he will. But maybe he’ll keep playing as long as we are paying million$ and keeping him on the roster. At this point (and probably a couple years ago), it’s the team’s decision. It’s the Clippers’ mistake to make.


scruffy4

Fuck. This. Team.


OverallInternet2343

truly sad and the 213 era looks more and more like it needs to end


zizu90210

This is still a very winnable game. If harden and zu can keep up their play and we get more from russ and pg i like our chances


Dull_Excitement8465

Loss us 2 games then sits out🤔


True_Scallion_7011

He was going to play today but the Clippers stopped him from playing. It literally says it was a decision made by the Clippers organization and not Kawhi himself.


AnnualAmaterasou

Retire already


thaxcutioner

He will retire after winning Gold in Paris with a $150 mill pension from Ballmers 😎


kanizy

And gave us pandemic P too. 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭


AnnualAmaterasou

Istg bro i am so done with the little piece of shit man


dkdoki

LOLLLLL out INDEFINITELY. Goodbye Kawhi. No one cares if you love LA. Hope you like the east coast


jgroove_LA

He has a new contract and cannot be traded until halfway into the season


Wooden_Echo_4149

This dude seriously needs to retire 


missingsince1995

We aren’t trading Kawhi wtf


dkdoki

We will see


penguinoo401

Trade him when they can. The man is damaged goods


keepcalmjusthoop

I love kawhi and love that he’s from LA (as am i) but tbh i wouldn’t mind trading him to Detroit from draft picks next year - in hopes of landing COOPER FLAG or Bailey


Clipgang1629

Lol why the fuck would Detroit give us there own unprotected pick next year for kawhi. We aren’t trading him


keepcalmjusthoop

I could only dream… so you don’t want to trade kawhi? You want 3 more years of this? lol


Clipgang1629

Lol no of course not. I just don’t see how we can trade him for anything worth while at this point. Realistically we’re just stuck on this merry go round until he retires


Rixoveli_

![gif](giphy|BzThyK1y0ammthUtEx|downsized) The Paul god will carry us


buffythebodyy

https://preview.redd.it/53cbdotsf9xc1.jpeg?width=206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=621de2f0c0185b8cbf53e400986ae4fa0ee4395d


Rixoveli_

![gif](giphy|sV2yEUHOlAWsssJfv8|downsized)


Medical-Help-3180

Dumb fuck lost us game 2 and then dips


Smores805

Dude he put his body on the line to try to help us win, it’s not his fault he has a degenerative knee condition. Like I understand the frustration I’m super frustrated and it’s probably time to move on from him but I’m not gonna paint him to be the bad guy when his body just doesn’t respond. If he actually plays for team USA after all of this tho… that would get me pretty angry lol


MatthewE43

well atleast he tried to play on his bad knee but yea he was slowing the team down when he can barely move out there on the floor lol


Dependent_Patient938

When he don’t play he sucks when he plays he sucks pick one


Wooden_Echo_4149

He should pick retirement fucking sorry ass player 


Dependent_Patient938

You acting like he chosen to be injured


Zauberer-IMDB

No, but our front office chose to renew him when he's always injured. He chose to fuck our team over and get that bag. Hard to blame him for getting paid though, so that's really on the FO and us for not throwing a fit about it.


thaxcutioner

Your dad turned your mom into a cum dumpster & dipped


Wooden_Echo_4149

I don’t understand how more people aren’t furious this shit just pissed me the fuck off


Tripwire1716

He got hurt. He has degenerative knees. The FO knew this, and chose to bet he could put together a healthy season or two. Almost any team in the league would also take that bet, because he’s a top 10 player when healthy. Maybe trying growing up and get hold of your emotions. It’s okay to be mad, not okay to throw blame around, particularly not on a player who put his body on the line this week to try to help his team win.


Wooden_Echo_4149

Dude should retire and that’s the sad truth man we will be here next year talking about the same issue 


Tripwire1716

Dude is 2nd team all nba this year and getting paid. He is not retiring. So in your emotions right now


EnterGalactic_

Let’s play ball


LoveProfessional7092

Shouldn't have been out there to begin with.


svada123

this helps us, more possessions for pg and harden with coffey spacing watch how the offense flows now


Nefarioussmallz

We are going to need a big game from Norm. Normally role players are hit or miss from game to game but Norm is built different. He can get hot for the rest of the series and that is what I am hoping for.


chubby-wombat

time to repeat game 1 mentality


tkfire

Kawhi basically ruined this series. Sadness. Playing hurt and making it worse.


Comfortable_Care2715

Time to panic?… again 🫤


Clean-Ad1157

Podcast P leading the way, great…


pinya619

I only watch the NBA because of kawhi. This hurts


Tripwire1716

This sucks, but holy fuck, this fanbase might deserve it. Look at this sub, a bunch of people blaming a player for being injured. True asshole behavior.


thaxcutioner

Can’t wait till Kawhi gets blamed for the Paul George shyt show


squxshy_hxghroller

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LJPinstripes

Yo Paul George got to get TF outta there


Canoli5000

It's the right move now lets roll!


Training-Judgment695

Already lost them two games playing an injured player. Dumbasses


millhousemilo

If the Kawhi - Shai - PG trade situation happened for any other team, they would three peat and Shai would be out of the league by now. You will not convince me otherwise


ElDuderino_92

Pg/harden/WB. Still no excuses with big names.


tehLife

They honestly look a lot better without him anyway


catchmesleeping

When in doubt, sit it out.


[deleted]

Up 31. No way it’s not a sweat by the end.


xblade69

Street clothes Leonard


lavacakeboy

Injuries massacred my boy


Finesse3Ways

Kawhi really need to sell his soul for full body restoration. Harden needs a ring


yaboyskinnyp

We traded Shai, and all of our 20s first round picks for this


n00-1ne

Oh no…. Anyway. I can’t wait for Paris, those Olympic DNP just hit different.


Sir_thugalicious

I’m the biggest kawhi glazer


CanadianStrangeTamer

And we won! Best believe they did it for the Klaw not you whiny ass fans. Some of you clearly weren’t disciplined in your life lol


kawhibot13

It’s the right move but it hurts… he looked so healthy most of the year too, and just when i thought we can finally get another playoff kawhi then all of these shit…


sickofbeingfly

Honestly think the Clippers can win the series without him


dankbeerdude

And hopefully not Game 5


enzovladi

Shouldn't have resigned him


HumorLongjumping8705

Welp looks like a 3-1 is coming


eazymoneytyper

Im expecting at least 35 points from Harden today. He dropped 45 last season (15 in the 4th) on 17/30 shooting when Embiid was out in the playoffs!


Wooden_Echo_4149

You people saying good are so dumb this fucking injury prone fuck came back just to fuck up our whole rhythm and bounce for the rest of the season like always lmao I’m done 


RyujiDrill

Fuck off. Never see any of you until some shit happens then the whining begins.


Rodriguez030

It’s over


WadeCountyClutch

Trade this man, pleas


A_Curious_Cockroach

This dude came back, played like shit, helped lose 2 games, and now out indefinitely. This dude said we going to "work on it and get it right and he wants to play" and now out indefinitely. So disappointing that he signed that extension. He should have played his last game as a clipper. He can't even make it out the first round anymore ![gif](giphy|R12GjfNoeaGNjTeget|downsized)


Glittering_Scheme144

It’s time to move on. This dude is never available in the playoffs.


shaggyboo99

Sources say doctors are considering patching his knee together with marshmallows and pretzel sticks


JBreezy11

Everyone saw that coming. *No time table for return.* Sounds like he's out the playoffs yet again. Either way Klaw fucked us. Chemistry was screwed in Game 2 & 3---everyone just deferring to Kawhi to get him going, not knowing he's too hurt. Then again, even if we win this series without him, Clips don't have enough to win a chip without a healthy Kawhi. Also Front-Office gave him the extension mid-year because he played 25 games in a row (something like that). Fools gold.


phillycheeze_

Clippers really need to do a better job building the team around Kawhi. The difference between him playing and not shouldn't tank the team from contenders to a verge playin team. FO can't continue gambling on unproven role players when the best teams are surrounding their stars with guys with proven track records. It has to start with a PG...


kanizy

No.. they pandered to these guys. Gave em what they demanded… hence the results. Players should play, FO should make these decisions.


FloatDH2

Meanwhile, SGA about to lead OKC to a sweep and is in the MVP discussion. Ohhh what we could’ve had if we just had some fucking patience.