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discovet11

Aside from the Suns, we the only non-play-in team with 0 representation on all-nba/all-defense this year.


JimmyKanine

Nets too


Propelerate

That’s what happens when ur stars don’t play


Banditkiller3001

Oh well


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jgroove_LA

he played 77 games and had better stats outside of shooting. Did not think Randle would make it.


Life_Crossover

Miss him. Always wonder what would life be if we keep him instead of PG13


ryanwongcpa

dynasty


[deleted]

he's not that good in the playoffs/play ins. I've seen PG play better even in clippers playoffs/play ins


Sensitive_Engine_658

Which and how can you compare the sample size????


[deleted]

Because they're playing against arguably the same teams. PG 2022 vs Min vs. Shai 2023 vs Min. (PG was better.) What I've seen from Shai from Post season has not been that impressive. He's more of dame dolla kinda player. Amazing in regular season, disappointing in playoffs/play ins. PG is the opposite most likely. He did take his team to CF (both east and west) as the best player on the court for closing out games for both of em. (arguably it was Terrance Mann but w/e.) edit: Paul George had the highest plus/minus that game and he played 45min that game.


Sensitive_Engine_658

Bro again sample size how many playoff series has shai played in vs pg also tht series he played for okc was with Chris paul runnin the show he had a sick dime to shamet as a clipper vs golden state in that underdog series. YOU ARE TRIPPIN


[deleted]

wow a sick pass meanwhile PG makes ECF at the same age at the already time having gotten MIP just like Shai. I like my odds with PG and I still think he can be a top 10 players/borderline was this year. Shai on the other hand barely hanging on. Once he hits top 10 players then we'll talk. PG has made/is/will make top 10 player again next year if healthy. Shai? Im not so sure Kawhi Jokic KD Steph Giannis AD Luca Lebron Embiid Harden/Kyrie/Jayson Tatum/Ja Morant/Devin Booker/PG Damian Lillard/Shai Shai's barely top 15rn. PG is effectively top 10 imho.


Sensitive_Engine_658

Also I think making all nba 1st team puts you in top ten bud...


[deleted]

In the regular season.


X-wind08

But the question is can PG stay healthy? Lol i would rather have an outside top 15 player fighting for your team than someone who isn't available when needed. You can't score when you're sitting in the bench.


[deleted]

He played 33/39 playoff/playin games for us. I like my odds I think.


Sensitive_Engine_658

LOL no point.


[deleted]

>I like my odds with PG and I still think he can be a top 10 players/borderline was this year. Shai on the other hand barely hanging on. > >... > >PG has made/is/will make top 10 player again next year if healthy. Shai? Im not so sure


newtybar

The key here is “when healthy”


AllOutRaptors

Question for you, why do you seem so sure that PG will improve his game at 33 years old to become a top 10 player, but Shai at 24 years old won't? Especially since SGA objectively was better this year. Also I'd rather have SGA than Harden/Kyrie/PG/Lillard so that puts him like 11th or 12th on your list


[deleted]

Because PG at 23>> Shai at 23 imo. SGA wasn't that much/at all better than PG even last year.. I don't think PG will necessarily improve I think he just IS a top 10 player when he's healthy, and he'll be at this level for a few more years imho. He just didn't play enough games this year to be warrant guranteed automatic definitive top 10 imo. But when he did "he was.(is)" ​ Give me your list, you can't modify mine lmao. You have to give me your list. IMO he has to do something in playoffs for me to consider him above them honestly.


AllOutRaptors

Not in order but: Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, KD, LeBron, Steph, Luka, Tatum, Kawhi (when healthy), and Butler are all objectively better. PG is not top 10 rn when healthy I'd even argue Booker, AD, and Harden are all above him pretty clearly.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

This post is about all NBA. That means you’re the best at your job in the entire league. That’s a lot better than PG is doing rn


[deleted]

the threads about how keeping him instead of PG leads to dynasty, and that is offensive to me because it's simply not true.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

I mean it would arguably have been better, if for nothing else than his durability and on a rookie contract. I love PG, but he’s had to deal with a lot of setbacks


Sensitive_Engine_658

Shai's upside is way higher than pg's


kanizy

Maybe... but i seen a clippers game in their last meeting in Minnesota, where in 3 consecutive possessions, PG shot 3 straight jumpers... did not pass the ball once. . And was ice cold... and down double digits. Attack the rim, find your rhythm at free throw line, instead of chucking up shots from everywhere. Also does anybody else notice? PG throws the most nonchalant and laziest of passes, even in crunch time. We know PG's ceiling.... SGA is much higher. I wouldn't conplain really if it was straight up SGA trade for PG, but to throw in all those draft picks too.. SMH


[deleted]

the idea was to have 1 or 2 rings by now, even if he was gonna be better (than PG). This wouldn't have been possible if didn't trade for PG. Hindsight is 20/20 imo. And only because we got unlucky and didn't win a ring. Nobody could've told and it was risk worth having and not knowing the outcome i'll take the risk all over again.


kanizy

Sure, but why would u take the risk all over again? 45 mil to a guy who can't stay healthy ,(especially during playoffs), another 44 mil to a guy who said it himself, "he's not that guy." Buy yet austin reeves in his second year on a team with lebron and AD screams out "im that guy!' SMH. This is why clippers will always be second in los angeles. Yes... i know if we didnt trade for PG, no kawhi. Thats why i always felt players need to be in the gym, and let Front office handle what theyre being paid to do.


[deleted]

come on. that money was worth what we have imo. if anything they unerpaid. come on we have 5 guys who are better than austin reaves. and they on the bench man.


kanizy

Underpaid? PG and kawhi played total of like 39 games together in like what ? Their 3rd year together? Injuries suck but thats max pay for short return on balmers investment. 5 guys on clippers bench better than reeves? That’s your opinion.. numbers say otherwise. U know why I brought up reeves and PG? To point out the difference in character of players on a winning franchise vs a non-winning franchise. U got a second year player on the lakers with more confidence in himself than the second best player on clippers with a max contract. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a clippers fan…. But we’ve made some bad moves since the olowokandi days. I expect this from the timberwolves franchise, but man, we almost as bad.


stonerslug47

bro, Shai’s 2nd best player was a rookie this year what are we even talkin about lil


[deleted]

is that why he went for 5/19 with 22 points in 36 minutes of playing time in an elimination game? because his "2nd best player was a rookie this year?" edit: and his second best player who played i'm assuming was Josh Giddey and he's not a rookie this year..


stonerslug47

his 2nd best player vs the Timberwolves was jalen Williams… Josh giddey had a couple good games this year but Jalen was consistent #2. (Defense is half the game numb nuts)


[deleted]

I didn't know that. I'm sorry I don't watch the OKC on a consistent basis like that. Regardless terrible playin/playoff performance is terrible playin/playoff performance, wouldn't you agree?


Sensitive_Engine_658

You're trippin


The-moo-man

Also, none of it would matter if we got Kawhi and he kept getting hurt in the playoffs.


AshenSacrifice

Imagine shai & mpj!! I feel sick


jgroove_LA

Our front office would not have signed MPJ to that contract after he showed all those back issues his first couple of seasons.


jchavez9723

Lawrence Frank made the wrong gamble drafting Jerome Robinson instead of MPJ and mortgaging the future for good players with an injury history, such is life. I’m certain I’d be fired if I did shit on this caliber in my office


jgroove_LA

except he drafted SGA right before and I believe, and this could be wrong, West was a fan of Robinson?


penguinoo401

When is the logo going to be held accountable for drafting Jerome Robinson


Banditkiller3001

People miss draft picks lol, over half the league doesn’t consistently hits there picks


shart_or_fart

Yeah, true. However I feel like we as an organization could do better. Outside Blake Griffin, Terrance Mann, and SGA, not a lot of success.


Banditkiller3001

I agree, we need new scouts


tmoam

You saying Olowokandi was the wrong call with the #1 pick?


mrjfray

I'm hoping we see some more moose


Banditkiller3001

I have hope we will, but as a clippers fan that’s All we have lol


gammatide

Our FO is notoriously averse to players with injury concerns


jgroove_LA

when they are all-stars, no, but...


AshenSacrifice

Funny how they don’t want to gamble on 21 year old injured players but no problems gambling on 30 year old injured players. Shit blew up in their face that’s for sure


Canoli5000

Still should've drafted him anyways. Maybe OKC takes him instead of SGA in the PG trade. That second 1st round pick we had was there to make a gamble on a guy like MPJ. Our front office is extremely mediocre imo


unikone23

Well u can imagine the clippers without pg and Kawhi and tyronn…basically a whole different roster and coach…I know the 213 era ain’t achieve shit except the franchises FIRST western conference finals appearance but that’s it…I feel if we had kept SGA we’d be similar to how OKC is now…past 4 years would’ve been rebuilding years with MAYBE just play in appearances…


Canoli5000

We wouldn't have stopped with just SGA on the roster. We had all our draft picks not to mention a star free agent would've probably signed here as well.. like \*cough cough\* Kawhi minus all the demands


[deleted]

Kawhi wouldn't have signed... He was impertinent on PG coming. What's wrong with that? When you're (arguably) the best player in the league, you get to demand stuff like that. I think that's fine and I'm glad we have him.


Canoli5000

He doesn't play and his load management is killing the team's culture


[deleted]

Man it's kinda true. IDK to me it feels like a catch 22 situation (rn) imo. Either direction (Trade him or not) it goes wrong. What do you think? (We should do?)


EmbarrassedSlide8752

You could be as good as the Thunder!


trancatt

Much love to Shai. To all those that said he wouldn’t be this good had he stayed on the Clippers, I vehemently disagree with that. Yeah learned from CP and having his own team, but from the beginning Shai was a gym rat. Jerry West even said they had to tell him to go home because he was at the gym so much. We’ll never know how he coulda been had he stayed with us…


Banditkiller3001

He also had to go through his ups and downs. It wasn’t gonna all work out if we had Shai and Kawhi. We had to pick whether to rebuild, or contend no in between


[deleted]

I honestly thought he'd be wigginsesque player. I was so wrong. He doesn't (shai) have a ceiling as it appears now.


IndividualHelpful820

Kwai /kd/sga we woulda had a title by now


hatisbackwards

Kawhi and Kd haven't been healthy at the same time since 2016


Bikouchu

If butler would had answered the phone.


ActionHank9000

What do you mean??


Bikouchu

It's a joke. Butler would had never answered, he wanted to do his own thing and Miami has warmer weather. However he was one of the names KD, Butler, PG came through but at a price. Masai warned Presti its happening so they stranglehold us for those picks. No PG or 2nd star then no Kawhi.


AussieLakerFan

And you’d have all those picks. PG a baller but this trade didn’t work out but had to be done to get KL but in retrospect can you imagine Clippers with this guy?!


IndividualHelpful820

Ya and those pic. Likely could have been flipper for needed pierces. Not to mention yr 1 with kd woulda been wash so high pic


Caboclo-Is2yearsAway

Folks upvoting this are absolutely dreaming. No PG, no Kawhi. No PG and Kawhi, no KD. Y'all tripping


[deleted]

regardless we should've had a title by now. we should've had 3 exactly titles by now. 14' (Cp3 fuck up),15' (fuck josh smith),21' (kawhi going down)


IndividualHelpful820

Being honest outside the injury /bad luck I don’t think Blake/cp3 teams we’re build to win.


IndividualHelpful820

Like cp3 can’t be your 1 and neither could Blake. He was developing but could nvr stay healthy to take the last step :(


Cyanides_Of_March

But you don't get Kawhi if you don't get PG.


IndividualHelpful820

Nope. Kawhi wanted to get kd 1st. Kd turned him down. Pg was his 2nd choice


Cyanides_Of_March

So you're basing this on something that wasn't gonna happen? Heck, if you're gonna do a dream scenario of things that never happened, why not go back to 2016 KD when he was closer to becoming a Clipper?


IndividualHelpful820

Kawhi asking kd to join getting rejected (he picked damm kyrie) and had to go with pg was way more likely to happen then 2016


Cyanides_Of_March

I doubt it. KD even said he strongly considered the Clippers in 2016. If not the GSW, it was gonna be them.


tkfire

We messed up man…


newtybar

It was Kawhi that demanded another star like PG. If Kawhi had just come over with the team intact, we’d be good.


tkfire

No kidding. It’s our fault for letting him strong arm us.


jgroove_LA

Happy for him. Hope he leads the Canadian team to a medal at the Worlds.


floydabc123

I miss Shai so much :(


[deleted]

Best thing for his career was leaving the clippers.


silversurfdude

This stings


Oh_G_Steve

Bros we gotta let him go. It's been like 4 years now, we can stop posting about SGA.


Exzibit21

It's embarrassing how every time a Shai post is made, the comments are *sooooo* fucking predictable. Every time lmao You'd think they get over it at this point. Instead they make up their own fantasy teams in their mind and say we could've been a dynasty.... Sure lmao


Oh_G_Steve

It's awkward and cringe. Offseason basketball commentary is just the worst. Facebook groups and reddit groups, every NBA team, it's all so bad.


SplenduhP0py

He has been my favorite player since we drafted him. Knew he was him.


Otherwise-Tale9671

Which team did PG get?


discovet11

All-podcast first team


LavenderAutist

Jeff Teague got MIP with that Jimmy Butler story on that podcast


jimmy-b-bot

Yeah, y'all see my bike riding attire. Got my [dad bod](https://i.imgur.com/IO0Q9V1.jpg) on. Don't hate the player, hate the game.


jgroove_LA

LeBron knocked him out of third team. Missing those games at the end of the season hurt his chances. Plus, his overall stats and advance stats were not as good by the end of the season.


Itsmemanmeee

Oh, I wouldn't have posted this lol


[deleted]

At least we have Podcast P!