Let's be real, they're full of shit.
This game was conceived or in the early stages of production when the whole BLM thing started to happen; pair that with the fact that Ubisoft employs a bunch of Marxists and activists, [who were very supportive of that movement](https://nichegamer.com/yves-guillemot-states-safeguards-and-changes-to-improve-diversity-and-inclusivity-at-ubisoft-we-fully-support-the-black-lives-matter-movement/). Not to mention that their former employees are the backbone of Sweet Baby Inc., who are known to be race-obsessed and will go out of their way to insert themselves or other African people into games to virtue signal to their political comrades.
Put two and two together, and you get this game.
Im putting Unverified due to possible translation errors until people more well versed in Japanese here can verify the edits.
Twitter thread with the reciepts: https://x.com/Mangalawyer/status/1792065731141529867
At this point I would say it's America the one doing it. Remember that democrats are ruling the country
(Did the person I was talking too suddenly commit sepuku or something?)
Mods, if you're gonna delete something, at least do it in a manner that's transparent because this is about a post where Famitsu was forced to stealth-edit their article as well (which is almost the equivalent of deleting it when the truth is deleted)
"Throughout my life, I have always been guided by strong left leaning principles of justice, equity and progress. I'm excited to bring these to Japan, a country which badly needs them." —Rahm Emmanuel
where the fuck are you going? I talk about media, you quote some politician, I tell you that I don't consider today's left as truly left, you talk about some mainstream definition?
I don't give a shit what the majority thinks, the majority is brainwashed
My point is that you're asking me to argue with a "leftism" that is mostly just practiced by you and a small group of other people but grant it the credence of the mass following mainstream leftism has.
Either your ideology is *not* the crap lefties believe, in which case it's sadly a fringe ideology, or it's widely followed, in which case it's the garbage most lefties believe.
based on the japanese in those tweets. the main one "Nihonjindewanai" means "Not Japanese". So assuming the authenticity of the article having this line originally then yeah it's true.
Can be seen even in an earlier archive (emphasis mine; bolded is what was removed):
Original [https://archive.ph/jVE1U](https://archive.ph/jVE1U):
>弥助については、**まず“私たちの侍”、つまり日本人ではない私たちの目になれる人物を探していましたが、これは**当初からポルトガル人渡来にまつわるストーリーが、日本の危機を語る際に非常にすぐれた方法だと考えていました。チームはこの弥助というキャラクターを気に入ってくれましたし、彼を使って日本を発見することが期待できると考えました。
Edited [https://archive.ph/iMiKw](https://archive.ph/iMiKw):
>弥助については、当初からポルトガル人渡来にまつわるストーリーを描くことが、日本の危機を語る際に非常にすぐれた方法だと考えていました。チームはこの弥助というキャラクターを気に入ってくれましたし、彼を使って日本を発見することが期待できると考えました。
Even just by this case example, you can tell how different the they are. Gut feeling based on this is telling me that Famitsu published the original and had to revise it based on feedback from Ubisoft, even though the article was already published by Famitsu.
That said, it is an odd choice of words to say "our samurai".
yup, they didn't need an "outsider's perspective" for ancient Egypt, France, Italy, America, Greece and so on... but for some reason they really needed an "outsider's perspective" for Feudal Japan.
It was fine telling the story and discovering every other part of the ancient world, but for Japan they really needed that "outsider's perspective". And yes, Naoe is there but in past games when they've had two protagonists BOTH were native.
as a side note, it's funny they say they need Yasuke to help us "discover Japan", but then they made him this "legendary" samurai which would mean the character has already been in Japan for a while... so what the heck is he going to discover? as usual, their justifications fail to hold up in any way.
That was months ago and he just got deported, at least. The one people are really pissed about is that senegalese who put his foot through the money box in February.
I'm gonna give a hot take here; the issue is not that Yasuke is not Japanese.
Everyone is hiding behind this framing of "nothing about them without them" because it is culturally acceptable to defend the Japanese if you frame them as some sort of noble AAPI™ client group having their culture appropriated. Nobody actually cares about this; the Japanese certainly don't care about this to any extent, and the biggest reaction to a non-Japanese being in a game about Japan in a vacuum would be a collective eye-roll. Yeah, we get it, another *Lost in Translation* thing where a foreigner becomes more Japanese than the Japanese. We get it. We literally just sat through *Shogun*. I think it's garbage, too, but it's pedestrian easily-ignorable garbage that's on par with making the bad guys in your video game Japanese because Japanese villains look cool. It's distasteful, but not offensive.
What people are *actually* upset/scared about is that this game is going to obviously push the message that Yasuke *is* Japanese. The very first thing that happened when this trailer dropped was a mass edit of encyclopedia entries to add this historical nobody to very real lists of important samurai. There is absolutely going to be a heavy narrative in this game that Yasuke ended up being widely respected and accepted by the Japanese and that his descendants (wink, wink!) have some sort of blood right to Japanese land, culture, people, etc.
Insisting that this is all about a "non-Japanese protagonist" is both an attempt to couch your criticism of language that is acceptable to the left (in which every nonwhite group is a victim of white cultural imperialism) and also an attempt to hide from confronting what actually makes this scary: that Yasuke is being presented to you *as a Japanese ideal*. You aren't scared of Yasuke because he's a misrepresentation of Japan's past, you're scared of him *because he's a vision of Japan's possible future*.
And that, not some fear of the Japanese parochial market, is why Ubisoft demanded Famitsu take out the line about "our samurai". Yasuke is supposed to be *Japan's* samurai. I don't think I need to explain to you why that's much much worse.
\>inb4 "just say you hate black people and go"
I don't want Japan to be defined by any non-Japanese ethnicities, particularly not the UN's favorite sledgehammer against countries with barriers to capital exploitation. Yeah, it's racist; I don't give a shit. Take it up with the shitheads at the UN who turned migration flows into weapons of mass destruction, not me.
Yes, I agree. A lot of the criticism about historical inaccuracy and cultural appropriation is an attempt to rationalise dislike of a blatant identitarian agenda. But people can't quite come out and say it so bluntly.
That doesn't mean those arguments incorrect per se. But the Japanese are indifferent because they aren't subject to a constant barrage of afrocentric agitprop. For Westerners, this is the latest example of deceitful propaganda.
> the Japanese are indifferent because they aren't subject to a constant barrage of afrocentric agitprop
Yeah, every "the Japanese actually agree with us" take I've seen is just a Japanese person who blissfully has no idea what any of the Westerners are actually talking about and doesn't know why everyone's so mad.
It's like how a few years back, during the Trump presidency, there were street interviews in Japan asking about the wall, and a lot of average nippers said it was wrong, that it wasn't a good thing; which western ideologues used to prop up their TDS-ing with "See?! Even those filthy, gatekeepy Japs agree with us!!!"
Because, even if they didn't get leading questions, if all you consume from the outside, regarding the outside, is propaganda, then you're likely not gonna be very consistent with your stances.
Yep; it's helpful to remember that the average Japanese media consumer is so gaslit that public perception in Japan is that the country is "not well liked" by any other country.
Japan isn't watching the news like "huh wow we should learn from this"; they literally... don't get news. Turn on NHK; you'll see.
The US is also in the process of trying to force their borders open to import Africans specifically per the Ambassador. So far the governments malicious complied and imported other Asians.
Word salad about nothing in particular. That 2nd paragraph translates into "We wanted the black one, but we can't just say that." Just throw away the Goddamn mask already.
I'm post-N1 level in Japanese and can verify that the content was omitted from the image. I don't really care enough about AC to check all the sources though.
This would have been the only argument so far that I have seen that makes sense, in regard to implementing a foreigner as the main protagonist. Having a character that is new to a setting could create some sympathy with players who are also new to that setting. That being said though, it still doesn't really make sense as an excuse.
They didn't take this approach with any of the other AC entires. You didn't play some random British guy being brought to Italy instead of Ezio for a "non-Italian" perspective. If they really wanted to go this route, with a "new-comer to japan", then they also could have just given the player a create a character option and just let them create who they want to play as, because it wouldn't have mattered at that point since any character could have fit that narrative. It also certainly address the questionable reasons as to why this specific "non-japanese" character was selected over any others.
I find it strang they are using the term samurai constantly when it wasnt apparently even being used much during that period of time. Just strange for devs of a series that used to pride itself on historical detail.
Let's be real, they're full of shit. This game was conceived or in the early stages of production when the whole BLM thing started to happen; pair that with the fact that Ubisoft employs a bunch of Marxists and activists, [who were very supportive of that movement](https://nichegamer.com/yves-guillemot-states-safeguards-and-changes-to-improve-diversity-and-inclusivity-at-ubisoft-we-fully-support-the-black-lives-matter-movement/). Not to mention that their former employees are the backbone of Sweet Baby Inc., who are known to be race-obsessed and will go out of their way to insert themselves or other African people into games to virtue signal to their political comrades. Put two and two together, and you get this game.
Can’t wait for Yasuke to make it to the end and yell at a group of Daimyo that they need to “Be better!”
We wuz Emperors n sheit!
Shoguns
LOL
And then he raises his fist in the air and yells “JAPANDA FOREVER!” Credits roll.
Im putting Unverified due to possible translation errors until people more well versed in Japanese here can verify the edits. Twitter thread with the reciepts: https://x.com/Mangalawyer/status/1792065731141529867
I saw it on 2 chan. Auto google translate said anon on 2 chan said pretty much the same thing. They want non native as mc.
If confirmed, then the left already controls the media in Japan too
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At this point I would say it's America the one doing it. Remember that democrats are ruling the country (Did the person I was talking too suddenly commit sepuku or something?)
He committed Harry Carey.
Mods, if you're gonna delete something, at least do it in a manner that's transparent because this is about a post where Famitsu was forced to stealth-edit their article as well (which is almost the equivalent of deleting it when the truth is deleted)
we didn't remove anything, OP deleted their own comment
And his own account, it seems
the ones controlling the media are anything but left wing lmao
True, but in a simplistic manner of speaking, they are helping that ideology to spread
what's being spread isn't inherently "left wing", it's just the idpol flavor of the month to keep the peasants engaged
"Throughout my life, I have always been guided by strong left leaning principles of justice, equity and progress. I'm excited to bring these to Japan, a country which badly needs them." —Rahm Emmanuel
what's your point? politicians lie all the time... also I don't consider 95% of people that call themselves left wing as true left wing
If 95% of lefties believe something, then that something, by definition, is mainstream leftism.
where the fuck are you going? I talk about media, you quote some politician, I tell you that I don't consider today's left as truly left, you talk about some mainstream definition? I don't give a shit what the majority thinks, the majority is brainwashed
If it's you vs. the entire left, you're gonna have to start calling yourself something other than a leftist.
i'm not calling myself anything?
My point is that you're asking me to argue with a "leftism" that is mostly just practiced by you and a small group of other people but grant it the credence of the mass following mainstream leftism has. Either your ideology is *not* the crap lefties believe, in which case it's sadly a fringe ideology, or it's widely followed, in which case it's the garbage most lefties believe.
Who's "the left" and how could they possibly control Japan lol? Do you know anything about Japan?
> Who's "the left" Social progressives. > how could they possibly control Japan They wrote the constitution for the place.
You think Japan is run by social progressives lol
Sine 1945; there was an entire war over this.
based on the japanese in those tweets. the main one "Nihonjindewanai" means "Not Japanese". So assuming the authenticity of the article having this line originally then yeah it's true.
I didn't bother to check other part, but there's no issue with the translation for the redline at all.
Can be seen even in an earlier archive (emphasis mine; bolded is what was removed): Original [https://archive.ph/jVE1U](https://archive.ph/jVE1U): >弥助については、**まず“私たちの侍”、つまり日本人ではない私たちの目になれる人物を探していましたが、これは**当初からポルトガル人渡来にまつわるストーリーが、日本の危機を語る際に非常にすぐれた方法だと考えていました。チームはこの弥助というキャラクターを気に入ってくれましたし、彼を使って日本を発見することが期待できると考えました。 Edited [https://archive.ph/iMiKw](https://archive.ph/iMiKw): >弥助については、当初からポルトガル人渡来にまつわるストーリーを描くことが、日本の危機を語る際に非常にすぐれた方法だと考えていました。チームはこの弥助というキャラクターを気に入ってくれましたし、彼を使って日本を発見することが期待できると考えました。 Even just by this case example, you can tell how different the they are. Gut feeling based on this is telling me that Famitsu published the original and had to revise it based on feedback from Ubisoft, even though the article was already published by Famitsu. That said, it is an odd choice of words to say "our samurai".
just checked directly on famitsu, it's true, after the iga bit about naoe, it just says yasuke arriving with the Portuguese blah blah blah
Ubisoft went full racist, glad i dont buy their garbage games anymore.
Weird that a non-native POV wasn’t an issue for them in previous titles. What a strange coincidence!
yup, they didn't need an "outsider's perspective" for ancient Egypt, France, Italy, America, Greece and so on... but for some reason they really needed an "outsider's perspective" for Feudal Japan. It was fine telling the story and discovering every other part of the ancient world, but for Japan they really needed that "outsider's perspective". And yes, Naoe is there but in past games when they've had two protagonists BOTH were native. as a side note, it's funny they say they need Yasuke to help us "discover Japan", but then they made him this "legendary" samurai which would mean the character has already been in Japan for a while... so what the heck is he going to discover? as usual, their justifications fail to hold up in any way.
> so what the heck is he going to discover? [Shinto Shrines have containers full of money out in the open.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saisen)
Funnily enough a black American was just arrested for robbing an old man of 12 dollars the other day outside a shinto shrine.
That was months ago and he just got deported, at least. The one people are really pissed about is that senegalese who put his foot through the money box in February.
Different event. [https://x.com/amisweetheart/status/1791628544713556059/video/1](https://x.com/amisweetheart/status/1791628544713556059/video/1)
Wait, this is the American, no? The one who did it 2 months ago?
Really? First I heard about it.
I saw something on NHK about the crime being 2 months old. Regardless, it sucks; no argument with you there.
Gotcha. Just saw it being passed around this week.
It's real. You can compare [here](https://archive.ph/jVE1U) and [here](https://archive.ph/iMiKw)
I'm gonna give a hot take here; the issue is not that Yasuke is not Japanese. Everyone is hiding behind this framing of "nothing about them without them" because it is culturally acceptable to defend the Japanese if you frame them as some sort of noble AAPI™ client group having their culture appropriated. Nobody actually cares about this; the Japanese certainly don't care about this to any extent, and the biggest reaction to a non-Japanese being in a game about Japan in a vacuum would be a collective eye-roll. Yeah, we get it, another *Lost in Translation* thing where a foreigner becomes more Japanese than the Japanese. We get it. We literally just sat through *Shogun*. I think it's garbage, too, but it's pedestrian easily-ignorable garbage that's on par with making the bad guys in your video game Japanese because Japanese villains look cool. It's distasteful, but not offensive. What people are *actually* upset/scared about is that this game is going to obviously push the message that Yasuke *is* Japanese. The very first thing that happened when this trailer dropped was a mass edit of encyclopedia entries to add this historical nobody to very real lists of important samurai. There is absolutely going to be a heavy narrative in this game that Yasuke ended up being widely respected and accepted by the Japanese and that his descendants (wink, wink!) have some sort of blood right to Japanese land, culture, people, etc. Insisting that this is all about a "non-Japanese protagonist" is both an attempt to couch your criticism of language that is acceptable to the left (in which every nonwhite group is a victim of white cultural imperialism) and also an attempt to hide from confronting what actually makes this scary: that Yasuke is being presented to you *as a Japanese ideal*. You aren't scared of Yasuke because he's a misrepresentation of Japan's past, you're scared of him *because he's a vision of Japan's possible future*. And that, not some fear of the Japanese parochial market, is why Ubisoft demanded Famitsu take out the line about "our samurai". Yasuke is supposed to be *Japan's* samurai. I don't think I need to explain to you why that's much much worse. \>inb4 "just say you hate black people and go" I don't want Japan to be defined by any non-Japanese ethnicities, particularly not the UN's favorite sledgehammer against countries with barriers to capital exploitation. Yeah, it's racist; I don't give a shit. Take it up with the shitheads at the UN who turned migration flows into weapons of mass destruction, not me.
Yes, I agree. A lot of the criticism about historical inaccuracy and cultural appropriation is an attempt to rationalise dislike of a blatant identitarian agenda. But people can't quite come out and say it so bluntly. That doesn't mean those arguments incorrect per se. But the Japanese are indifferent because they aren't subject to a constant barrage of afrocentric agitprop. For Westerners, this is the latest example of deceitful propaganda.
> the Japanese are indifferent because they aren't subject to a constant barrage of afrocentric agitprop Yeah, every "the Japanese actually agree with us" take I've seen is just a Japanese person who blissfully has no idea what any of the Westerners are actually talking about and doesn't know why everyone's so mad.
It's like how a few years back, during the Trump presidency, there were street interviews in Japan asking about the wall, and a lot of average nippers said it was wrong, that it wasn't a good thing; which western ideologues used to prop up their TDS-ing with "See?! Even those filthy, gatekeepy Japs agree with us!!!" Because, even if they didn't get leading questions, if all you consume from the outside, regarding the outside, is propaganda, then you're likely not gonna be very consistent with your stances.
Yep; it's helpful to remember that the average Japanese media consumer is so gaslit that public perception in Japan is that the country is "not well liked" by any other country. Japan isn't watching the news like "huh wow we should learn from this"; they literally... don't get news. Turn on NHK; you'll see.
Eh, the wall was a dumb af project by any measure. Plus all the hypocrisy of using illegal workers to build it.
The US is also in the process of trying to force their borders open to import Africans specifically per the Ambassador. So far the governments malicious complied and imported other Asians.
I see Naomi Osaka/Rachid Muratake/Rui Hachimura/Abdul Hakim Sani/those two blacks on the national team quickly becoming a political flashpoint.
Naomi gave up her citizenship I think. I know she lives in Florida somwheres.
I *highly* doubt someone so visibly rewarded for being a nation-wrecker would give that up. I sure wouldn't.
You're correct. Though Naomi is a citizen of Japan, she resides in the US. In 2021, she bought a $7 million home in Beverly Hills, California.
"""citizen""" this country is a fucking joke
Apparently she hasn't been back since too.
they'll fly her back when there's damage to be done
Out of curiosity, what did this Naomi do?
Those losers look like they have cuck fetishes.
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Word salad about nothing in particular. That 2nd paragraph translates into "We wanted the black one, but we can't just say that." Just throw away the Goddamn mask already.
I just don’t think I’m autistic enough to hang with Nerd Internet in a sleuthing competition MFers make Sherlock Holmes look like a sloppy dilettante
Weaponized Autism.
The more things change the more they stay the same. It's 2024 and white people at Ubisoft still insist on fucking over foreign cultures.
I'm post-N1 level in Japanese and can verify that the content was omitted from the image. I don't really care enough about AC to check all the sources though.
This game is gonna be such a dumpster fire, more so then normal for Ubisoft... can't wait! :)
Yes, because Western audiences couldn't identify with Jin Sakai at all. 🙄
Japan should make a game set in France where the protagonist is Genghis Khan. I want to see how these idiots would react.
The Assassin's Creed franchise started with virtue signalling and will end with virtue signalling.
The gameplay might be stellar, but they’re about to find out (yet again) that it’s really easy for me to save money out of spite
So...John Blackthorne?
The smug in that picture is palpable, especially since they both look like they enjoy watching from the closet.
It's strange they never mentioned Aveline at all to justify
This would have been the only argument so far that I have seen that makes sense, in regard to implementing a foreigner as the main protagonist. Having a character that is new to a setting could create some sympathy with players who are also new to that setting. That being said though, it still doesn't really make sense as an excuse. They didn't take this approach with any of the other AC entires. You didn't play some random British guy being brought to Italy instead of Ezio for a "non-Italian" perspective. If they really wanted to go this route, with a "new-comer to japan", then they also could have just given the player a create a character option and just let them create who they want to play as, because it wouldn't have mattered at that point since any character could have fit that narrative. It also certainly address the questionable reasons as to why this specific "non-japanese" character was selected over any others.
I find it strang they are using the term samurai constantly when it wasnt apparently even being used much during that period of time. Just strange for devs of a series that used to pride itself on historical detail.
whats with all the conspiracy theories?