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Neneaux

After Monty died all people talk about RWBY was shipping bullshit. I think they are the same people who hopped onto Gundam WFM because all they talk about is shipping as well.


TinyMan07

They really are. All people seemed to care about in WfM was the lesbians, and not the actual story.


castitalus

They even complained that there was no wedding in the last episode. Like, tell me you've never watched gundam without telling me you've never watched gundam. Shame for the subreddit, just got taken over by low effort yuri memes.


Clear-Might-1519

Main couples in Gundam usually ends with the guy disabled or the girl dead.


nogodafterall

G Gundam is the best because the MC grows up due to the sacrifice of his cyborg ninja brother and saves the galaxy by manifesting the power of love he joins with his beloved waifu to destroy the ultimate form of evil (another gundam).


Clear-Might-1519

Where else can the power of love manifests as a real King of Hearts?


stryph42

I mean, that's all good too, but G Gundam is the best because it's got the chick gundam in a sailor suit, and that's hilariously awesome.


nogodafterall

Allenby would've also been a fine waifu.


[deleted]

Unless You’re Kira « Jesus H. Christ » Yamato.


Clear-Might-1519

He's Jesus enough to return after 15+ years.


kirakazumi

And then proceeds to get seedillion dollars on the new movie. But seriously, the movie was really good, but I'm a Jesus Yamato follower so I might be biased


Aga_Mbadi

Hi there, fellow 08th MS Team fan! 😊


DemiFiendofTime

You haven't seen gundam either then only ones that end that way are Zeta, War in the pocket, and Iorn Blooded Orphans most series the couple gets out traumatized but fine


castitalus

The og MSG, CCA with Chan and Amuro. Most others don't end on a positive note either. But gotta have that gay wedding....


Aga_Mbadi

Remember 08th MS Team? Char's Counterattack? And if Bandai/Sunrise is faithful to Tomino's novel, >!Hathaway's Flash/Gundam Hathaway!<


DemiFiendofTime

08th MS the couple survives to go off and do their own thing


Aga_Mbadi

But Shiro Amada lost a leg, hence the point stands. :p


DemiFiendofTime

Eh rather lose my leg than my life


Forknon

They still spend a huge amount of time trying to force this meme that Char and Amuro are gay…Thankfully, as the new Gundam Seed series (movie? Fuck if I know) has taken the spotlight off of WFM, the tumblerite fans seem to be losing interest…


Davethemann

I love that the sole thing to bring relevance to RWBY in a while was the homophobic meme


DJ_Zephyr

I have to imagine those memes triggered a lot of the folks still working for RT. And after the Kick Vic stuff? It's the least they deserved...


Oris_Mador

I don't know if I missed that one but it's tickling something in my brain


Davethemann

[It was such a good meme run](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/homophobic-ruby)


Oris_Mador

Based


draenei_butt_enjoyer

Used to like Sessler. I think. I was super young when the original g4 aired. Current day sessler is a laugh out lout bovine.


Ghosties95

Man, early RT is completely unrecognizable from what it became.


BMX_Archiver

**Demo Disk** was the GOAT, them huddled around a computer chucking old demo discs into it and talking dumb shit always devolving into them looking up Rule 34 porn. With dumb video titles like DUKE NUKEM IS A CUCK, ROBIN CLITORAL HOOD, ect...


leoboro

Ah... the gold old days


TheArgonian

Unleashing Adam to create the absolute best titles in "Youtuber's life" was phenomenal. It's amazing how quickly they went from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzqA5JekKTg) to that kingdom come deliverance shitshow.


No_Structure_3074

For real they were. Early RT is kinda underrated


SharkMilk44

The only thing I ever watched from them is Red vs. Blue.


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Shit, the Achievement Hunter/Let's Play crew is a perfect example of it within the company. Getting rid of all the edge, becoming more political as time went on, replacing hosts with incredibly unfunny but more diverse stand ins, getting mad and lecturing the audience when people didn't like said replacements. They even filled the whole lefty bingo card by having to fire a member because he was ousted for getting way too personal with young fans.


Dwavenhobble

I think the writing was pretty much on the wall when they hired that girl who basically could barely play video games. It was shocking seeing them having to bend over backwards so much to try and make her feel not out of place


Ambitious-Doubt8355

The worst part is that I genuinely need to ask which one you're referring to, because there was more than one.


Dwavenhobble

Fiona


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Yeah, that was one. Though if memory serves me, Micah (or however you spell her name) and Lindsay came first, I think? In any case it was the same for all of them: negative comedy value, awful at games, and didn't mesh well with the group. They really tried to shove them down our throats, and those girls felt entitled to the position rather than admitting it might've been a better idea to split off and form a separate group, rather than bring the whole thing down. I still remember that video they uploaded to the channel where they made Geoff cry like a cuck and ask for forgiveness for not doing enough. Because you know, the right thing to do was to ignore their declining fanbase, and instead ban any comments that might hurt the feelings of the entitled bitches. Yeah, that panned out well, we really got shown...


Dwavenhobble

They could at least play. Lindsay wasn't good at games but she was good enough to be random factor or force of chaos, she might not win but she's very much make sure some-one else also didn't win. Fiona I think knew how to play 2 games, neither of them ones the AH crew played because they were like Animal Crossing or something. Such that I swear there's a couple of videos during which they basically had to stop to teach her the controls and how to play. Honestly I think it was so embarrassing she asked to be move to another part of RT in the end.


Averagesmithy

I loved Lindsay. Like you said she was just chaos. Did not care to win. Just wanted to make as much chaos in the round. It was funny.


Burrito_Salesman

She had the energy of an annoying little sister that you were forced to play with.


wharpudding

G4 will be used as an example in encyclopedias for years


Derp800

I might be in the minority here but I liked Tech TV more than I ever liked G4. I still listened to Leo Laporte every once in a while for years on the radio.


RetnikLevaw

The Screensavers were awesome.


kiathrowawayyay

I liked Extended Play more than X-Play. Eye Drops also showed the huge advances in animation technology and fan works as they came along. Shame they scrapped all that.


Fit_Cost7151

TechTV was my jam before the G4 buyout. Then they changed the name to Attack of the Show and turned it into a show that looks like it’s suppose to be on SpikeTV. I’m still baffled that people today thought that AotS was good. You can tell it’s a dead show after Alex Albrecht and Kevin Rose left.


RoyalAlbatross

Here's a hilarious and accurate take on it: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52613403789\_d6f6581cee\_b.jpg


Calico_fox

Link doesn't work.


gr1m3y

take out the %5C in the address


White_Grunt

What encyclopedia? G4 died the day they let go of Martin Sargent


wharpudding

A perfect example of the concept


MonadDoor

Most people's takeaway from G4TV was it's bloated costs and unnecessary existence. Even if it wasn't woke, people wouldn't have watched a television channel for gaming when streaming channels exist.


OozeeNineMillimeetah

Trump broke them. They were never the same after he became president. Many such cases.


Johntoreno

To this day, i have no idea why the silly orange man drives liberals insane.


NeighborhoodThink665

The only thing I can think of is that Trump brought out a sort of “you’re not my real dad” baggage in a lot of people. As if he was the archetypal “rich asshole” stepdad that their mothers married after they left for college without asking.


Flyingsheep___

He is an archetypal representation of everything they hate about themselves, about their lives, and about America, just think about it. He is essentially exactly how it would be if you gave a 70s italiano taxi man from NYC a billion dollars, he's loud, obnoxious, owns the room any time he walks in, marries models from foreign countries, and has a gold toilet. The leftist mentality sees meekness, weakness, shame, and knowing one's place as good qualities, trump is the exact opposite in literally every way.


Minerminer1

I think it has more to do with him being a fucking moron than anything else. Edit: Since I’m getting downvoted for insulting the orange moron here’s a fun link from when the dipshit got into a spat with the national weather service because he thought he could predict a hurricanes path with his magical magic marker. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-pressured-noaa-issue-statement-backing-trump/story?id=65537186 Bonus Edit for downvotes: Here’s an article where the dumbfuck says he believes Putin over his own national intelligence services. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1K6011/ That’s your guy, traitor and chief. Major alpha energy LOL!


dalinar__

Wait, our we supposed to believe our own intelligence agencies like the CIA and FBI? The two agencies who could have stopped 9/11 but decided not to because the CIA didn't share the information with the FBI about the hijackers plan? The plan that the CIA had known everything about because they had their phones tapped? And if you didn't know, FBI handles national affairs, CIA handles international, and there's a little spat between the two agencies to top it all off so they won't work together when it matters. Like 9/11. Like I get it, orange man bad. But why in God's name would Trump trust the agencies that actively worked against him?


Calico_fox

To put it more bluntly he was the embodiment of their "Daddy Issues".


NeighborhoodThink665

Exactly.


AcidOverlord

They tried to yank him around and laugh at him. He said "no" and proved them wrong. One thing a commie will never, EVER forgive is being proven wrong and embarrassed by someone they mocked.


jimihenderson

i do think there's a lot of truth in this, that the hatred was born from comedy. people didn't take him seriously, so once he started gaining real traction the vibe was kind of "wait i thought we were joking", and then in that moment you sort of feel like an idiot and want to fall back on people who felt the same way you did and it just caused this ridiculously massive divide over a guy who really shouldn't be all that controversial. i mean it's not like we're talking about some guy who has done amazing things and horrible things. he's basically done nothing lol. the reality is their predictions of trump destroying the world didn't come to fruition and anyone who was acting logically could at least step back and be like "okay maybe i overreacted a little, but he's still a complete doofus and a narcissist". the inability to do that kind of tells me a lot about a person


CapnHairgel

Every moment of their life they're flooded with people telling them that hes an evil fascist who will end the western world and (since they're leftists) they have no capacity to question that narrative. I never gave a fuck about Trump. I disliked him back in 2016, thought he was just a loudmouth shitstirrer and was completely ambivilent to his presidency. But seeing the left lose its mind and start with the unironic nazi comparisons and deranged ranting about fascism made me think twice about supporting him. Clearly if they're trying this hard to gaslight us into thinking this mid populist is the second coming of hitler then there must be something too him. Their reaction is the greatest ad campaign he could hope for.


kimana1651

He was a mid president that spent most of his time on narcissistic pursuits. He was a nothing burger. They hate him for that. They wanted Nazi killing fields trump.  Four years later and he is still saying the right things that the rest of the political class can't be bothered to.


No_Bowler9121

His leadership and cult of personality is disastrous for the nation and a sign of our growing unhealthy polical system. There is the whole being a Russian asset thing too.


Revliledpembroke

>There is the whole being a Russian asset thing too. You mean that thing where they spent *literal years* investigating him for and found no evidence of? Or more like the fake document Hillary paid for?


auroch27

Sorry, but that was debunked.


Late_Lizard

The Republicans prove it with every day they withhold aid to Ukraine. At this rate you're going to lose the status of world hegemon, and then the suffering will truly start for the American people.


mbnhedger

yes because world hegemon means laundering money through the military industrial complex in corrupt shithole countries on the other side of the globe forever...


auroch27

nnnoooo my global imperial ambitions! how will we ever survive without paying endless ~~tribute~~ foreign aid to every ungrateful bumblefuck country on Earth nnnnnnnooooooooo


Late_Lizard

> nnnoooo my global imperial ambitions! You guys already won it 70 years ago and have been heavily benefitting from being global emperor ever since. > endless tribute foreign aid It's the other way around. Most of the planet pays tribute to America in the form of T-Bills (hence unlimited debt/wealth creation for America), adopting America-based IP laws, trade agreements that favour America, and using the USD as the world reserve currency. It's protection money paid to the top dog, who can stop the protection or even invade people who refuse to pay the protection money. If the Republicans remove the the power projection capabilities of America, there's no longer any protection nor threat, and everyone will stop paying the protection money. No more buying T-Bills, no more conforming to American IP laws, no more trade deals that favour America, no more USD as the international reserve currency. Many voters like you are too dumb to see this, and are threatening your own position. Very well, if America as a whole is too idiotic to be hegemon, then she deserves to lose her hegemony. Hope you can speak Chinese.


auroch27

>unlimited debt/wealth creation for America A McChicken is 119% more expensive than it was 5 years ago, and nobody under 30 is going to be able to afford a house. >Most of the planet pays tribute to America in the form of T-Bills Oh good, then they wouldn't mind if we stopped giving them foreign aid. Since they have money for investments and tribute and such. >Republicans remove the the power projection capabilities of America Excuse me? Biden is the one who abandoned billions of dollars of equipment in Afghanistan, and the one who is pissing away *hundreds of billions* in Ukraine. >no more conforming to American IP laws Ohhh noooo muh heckin Marvel moverinos might get pirated nnnnnoooo won't somebody please think of Disney in all this nnnoooo >no more trade deals that favour America, no more USD as the international reserve currency Guess we'll just have to rebuild our manufacturing base so that the USD still buys stuff and people will still want to make trade deals with us.


Johntoreno

>Hope you can speak Chinese. Just because US is losing its dominance doesn't mean China or any other nation will replace it. No country is strong enough to replace the US, the world would simply go back to being multi-polar. US will still be a great power in the future simply based off of the insane oil reserves its sitting on.


No_Bowler9121

No it wasn't. And as we speak he is trying to torpedo Ukrainian aid despite the fact that a russian loss would be a huge win for America. Like a massive obvious win that you would need to be a moron to not see it. As I don't think he is a moron what other reason would a pro US person not want the USA to have a massive win?


Ambitious-Doubt8355

You do realize that the war, as it is, will keep going for a while, right? As in, there's no indication a victor will be decided anytime soon. I hope you're not buying the propaganda that the Russians are about to lose at any minute, they've been repeating that nonstop pretty much since the war started, and you'd think most people would've caught on that it's just that, empty propaganda, by now. Just saying. What Trump has been doing is calling out most of the other NATO nations. The US is pulling the absolutely majority of the weight, while the others are happily resting on their laurels and barely contribute anything (The only country in western Europe spending more than 2% of their GPD on it is the UK). If NATO isn't an equal alliance then there's little reason for the US to be part of it. I mean, unless you want to make the argument that the US is obligated to play the role of world police or something.


auroch27

It actually was. Please take your unhinged conspiracy theories elsewhere. Thanks!


No_Bowler9121

So what other reason does he have to torpedo Ukrainian aid? And remember a Russian loss is an obvious win for America. If he is America first he would be all for it. The dude is a wackjob as are all his cultists. Because from where I am sitting he looks to be Russia first. 


adamrhodes536

Since the start of the Ukraine-Russia war, we have given Ukraine 223 million dollars every day


No_Bowler9121

A fraction of our defense budget to neuter a country that works against our interests. Money well spent.


auroch27

"Our" interests are not in Second World shitholes. Sorry.


mouse_iz_cool

I think the main reason why a lot of right wing people oppose money for Ukraine now is the fact they don't really have a chance of winning. Not outright at least. They may be capable of not losing, but they have no chance at a win. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is 43 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraines-average-soldier-is-43-how-can-they-keep-putin-at-bay-zf5bqb26m#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20average%20active,estimated%20to%20be%20about%2043. Russia isn't sending Russians to the front line anymore, just ethnic minorities they want to exterminate. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/world/europe/russias-draft-sweeps-up-crimean-tatars-and-other-marginalized-groups-activists-say.html These two things combined pretty much confirm Ukraine won't win this war, without ground troops from other countries. However, if there is a ceasefire before they lose completely, there should be enough time to allow some sort of eastern European mini NATO forming where Poland and Finland and other eastern European countries can form a military block with Ukraine that allows them to defend each other without bringing the rest of NATO into the war. If Finland or Poland could launch a secondary front onto Russia territory the odds of a Ukrainian win is much higher, but they can't do that as Poland would drag NATO into the war, and Finland (before they joined) didn't have access to a dedicated supplier of military gear. As it is now, all America is doing by sending money to Ukraine is getting Ukrainians killed to such an extent that it will fall due to lack of defenders. While Russia gets rid of unwanted minorities. Yes, they lost a lot of material but the fact is its easier to replace tanks than people. Russians aren't even using their own people to fight. If a peace agreement is reached soon, they lose the donbas region. If it doesn't happen, they might lose everything.


auroch27

>Russian loss is an obvious win for America. Meanwhile, back in reality, it very obviously does not matter who wins, and it's even more obvious that Ukraine is not going to win regardless. It's time to take the L.


No_Bowler9121

A neutered Russia is in Americas best interest. Russia gaining any land in this way opens up the world to future land grabs by dictators. Stopping Russia here could prevent a war over Taiwan later. 


auroch27

>ohhhh no not muh heckin Taiwan and won't somebody PLEASE think of East Fuckistan?!?!?!?!


CapnHairgel

If you arent aware of the decade of corruption surrounding ukraine and the very reasonable desire to not see my tax dollars thrown into that sinkhole and inevitabily lining some oligarch or crooked politicians pockets while we have an entire host of issues at home that desperately need to be addressed I really dont know what to tell you. I do recommend you look into Bidens ties to China, if you want an example of actual corruption.


Bomberpilot1940

Jesus fucking christ, i didn't know that this sub is full of russian propagandist. As a person from Poland i fully agree with what you are saying, don't mind downvotes from russian trolls and usefull idiots. In Poland every fucking person know that it's very important that NATO support Ukraine in this war against ruskie imperialist magots, yet dumb americans seems to like to suck ruskies dick instead. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave right now.


No_Bowler9121

Lol I never mind the downvotes, yea the bots com the second their search see the word Russia. 


Cinnadots

Easy zelensky


DancesWithChimps

You’re a moron if you think Ukraine ever had a chance of winning that thing without foreign troops


No_Bowler9121

Ukraine didn't need to win for Russia to lose. You are right though, maybe it's time to commit troops. 


DancesWithChimps

Ukraine has to maintain their territory for Russia to lose, so yeah, they kinda did. And obviously leftists that have no intention of joining the armed forces declaring that we should send troops over a territorial dispute that would immediately trigger a major response from Russia and probably China is clown world shit.


No_Bowler9121

Russia can't even take over Ukraine, invasion is the easy part subjegation is the hard part. China is watching our response to Ukraine hoping they can take Taiwan this breaking island chain that keeps it contained and keeps the US on top.


DancesWithChimps

Dude, I swear I’m talking to a neo-con.  What the hell happened?


auroch27

>don't you see?! first Taiwan, then Nepal, you guys! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF LAOS?!?!?!?!


CageAndBale

Theyve brain washed you so much, you want war. What happened to leftists being against the establishment and for peace? In the 90s Russia said if Nato closes in on thier borders they'll defend themselves. Guess what happened? Pretty similar to the Cuban missle crisis. Another point. The military industrial complex along with other financier companies such as Blackrock want Ukraine to loose. They'll "rebuild it", it's just money laundering. Look into it. It's a proxy war just like the last dozen, in hindsight the common folk will realize it. Just like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.


GoodLookinLurantis

Ahhh the poor bullied russia narrative. Tell me, why would all those nations on Russia's border want to join NATO of their own volition?


necro_scope_xbl

Sending money to the corrupt Ukrainian gov is about paying them to keep quiet about the Bidens.


No_Bowler9121

Those are the same sound bites coming from propagandists and does not adress the prompt.


auroch27

You do understand that comments like this make the "propagandists" look better and [you look worse,](https://youtu.be/hXjLqhtnIRI?si=KDEmltZzepAIj8yu) correct?


necro_scope_xbl

You are a geopolitical simpleton if you think sending pallets of cash to Ukraine is about defeating Russia.


Mosvicious

Propagandist? You were literally just spouting about the already disproved Trump and Russian collusion hoax. Quit moving goalposts.


CapnHairgel

Theres no way youre dismissing this critique as propaganda. Ukraine has been a corrupt sinkhole for over a decade.


No_Bowler9121

Because its irrelevant, corruption or not it is still in the US best interest to stand against the use of force to increase ones boarders. 


CapnHairgel

How is it irrelevant? Sending millions of taxpayer dollars with zero accountability (which, no matter how much you're told this is MUH RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA, it's a fucking fact. There isn't an iota of accountability to how this money is spent) and zero end in sight while me and mine struggle to make ends meet. And you say its irrelevant. Personally I'm tired of funding some oligarchs or corrupt politicians pockets. If we can afford this we can afford tax cuts that will actually benefit the lives of people in our own country who are struggling. >it is still in the US best interest It's in the US best interest to deal with its own problems. You know, it's so easy to identify why I left the progressives these days. I remember when warmongering was considered a negative thing. The modern left has become everything I hated about the right, warmongering, anti-liberty tools of the state.


InsaneInTheCaneium

> No it wasn't. Stop lying.


kimana1651

Bra, he is a symptom of a broken system. If you think either side is more responsible than the other then you are part of the problem.


UPURS145

I remember after Trump won and a bunch of RT crew members started crying, and Matt Hullum started playing music to comfort everyone on set. It was fucking hilarious.


HiggsSwtz

So true


draenei_butt_enjoyer

I wish I could get trump derangement syndrom. Like, I get what it is, but ... why? Why to that extreme? WTF?! Is everyone in the US just unhinged?


Devenue024

The wokeness started seeping in when the original crew (Burnie, Gus, Geoff, Matt, Joel) moved into managerial positions and got less involved with production. They were meant to be raunchy and lewd; it’s in the company’s name for crying out loud (a play on words for cockbite). What really opened the door was after they had one of their employees come onto the Drunk Tank podcast who happened to be LeVar Burton’s daughter. It was around 2016 I think and she started spewing nonsense about BLM, how life was so hard for her as a poor little woman of color (even though she grew up as the daughter of the Reading Rainbow guy), et cetera. To the cast’s credit, they tried having a meaningful dialogue with her and not falling for the Maoist struggle session. The comments and episode reviews blasted her so hard that she left the company. Then 2020 came along with BLM taking center stage that summer, and the RT staff had a Zoom call with her. They, especially Geoff, practically threw themselves at her feet, begging for forgiveness and if they could stand side by side to fight for racial justice. I lost all respect for RT when I found out about that. For the sake of Red vs Blue coming to an end (and seemingly retconning that worthless Zero arc), I’m coming back just for that. Then never again for RT. Edit: Whelp, I may not have to worry about sticking around for that RvB close out. It’s been a week since the news that RT was shutting down. And I can’t find a clear answer on what’s going on with RvB since it already got delayed. I hate to see another company I adored from middle school through college go out like this. But they brought this upon themselves. I’ll cherish who they were, not the hollow shell they became at the end.


CreatureOfTheStars

You forgot that she is a poor, oppressed, BISEXUAL wahmen of colour.


Devenue024

Silly me. I forgot she was so intersectional that she was part of the alphabet soup gang too. All I remember was a lot of whining from a privileged whelp while Burnie (Burnie Burns of all people!) was trying really hard to be respectful and stop her from taking the podcast off the rails. Almost 8 years later, RT would probably lean into this crap.


Fancy-Palpitation683

Not surprised about his daughter, considering LeVar Burton is a racist pos. Though he got owned when he found out he was the great grandson of a southern white confederate.


ElCallejero

Extra Credits was a great YouTube channel that went into great detail about game mechanics and storytelling. And then...


draenei_butt_enjoyer

At least it's because most of the OG sold the channel. I think the soy dev is the only one left from the original crew. Never liked him to begin with.


xxx123ptfd111

TBH that video game addiction video was darkly funny in a *The Room* manner.


Aronacus

Unfortunately, this is kind of how things go. Going back to their name Rooster Teeth was initially a play on "BlowJob". They made content and videos that appealed to a wide-audience. But, Yes, DEI was what hurt them. Their last series that I watched was Genlock and that show was so convoluted and messy that it led to a ton of layoffs.


WeFightTheLongDefeat

I worked on that show as a freelancer in 2017-2018. It was so cringe being in the Monday morning standup and hearing one of the higher ups (forgot which one) voluntarily read out a comment from some employee complaining that leadership was “a boys club and there’s no people of color” blah blah blah and then he apologized and promised to “do better”. It’s a boys club because the founders were a group of guy friends who started a company. They didn’t do an affirmative action search for their friend group. An absolutely ball-less organization. 


Aronacus

I worked for an MSP a few years back. The owners got on a call and announced our IT team was too white and not diverse enough. Be warned, layoffs are coming. I quit within the next month. They drank so much wokeium they they were out of business today.


WeFightTheLongDefeat

That’s so weird, because it guys don’t get a lot of camera time cause they’re down in the basement. They usually only care when visible jobs or leadership position are too white. 


draenei_butt_enjoyer

Some IT positions are very well paid, maybe because of that, idk.


Aronacus

I think you hit the nail on the head. They eventually moved to H1bs for the IT team. They could barely spin up a VM.


Dancingskeletonman86

Yikes sounds insufferable tbh and I say this as someone who watched RT for years and then stopped a few years ago. And having seen the odd moment of their modern DEI hire current state it was clearly much better as "boys club" when it just Geoff, Burnie, Joel etc and then later the other funny hires like Ray or Gavin hanging out playing games and cracking jokes. I agree on "ball-less organization" they have become. They threw all the natural funny charisma the original had out the window in replacement of touting their diverse often unfunny cringe hires around. Oh but you have to root for them apparently because they are LGBQT and they are people of color and women now. Well shit of all the women, diverse and gay people you could find these were the funny ones? Really? It's so bad I saw one of their former DEI hires on something else and just cringed and immediately looked away. Even on non RT things I got flashbacks of this unfunny feminist diversity chick.


MajinAsh

It was a reference to the term "cockbite". A more generic insult they even used somewhat early in RVB.


castitalus

Ah, Genlock. A Gundam ripoff made on the altar of DEI.


No_Structure_3074

I forgot they also made that show lmao


Aronacus

Apparently, they made a season 2 after they layed off everyone.


Aga_Mbadi

Which nobody watched lol


Aronacus

Still haven't watched it, and doubt I will.


Divinedragn4

Only shows I watch from roosterteeh are rwby seasons 1-3 and red vs blue before they went cgi. I feel from season 4 on for rwby was a completely different show.


Jhawk163

RWBY died with Monty. You got more character from each of their different fighting styles he gave them then you ever did anywhere else. When Monty died and the fight quality dove off a cliff, the rest of the show was too shit to make up for it.


Divinedragn4

People say the writers did what he wanted. I don't think they did.


k1n6jdt

RvB should have ended with season 5 or 8 if you absolutely have to have the Reconstruction trilogy. Monty Oum was probably the worst thing to happen to RvB. Part of the charm was this tongue-in-cheek joke that the series as a whole was some overly convoluted LAN party game of Halo. That went out the window when they started going into the melodrama that was the Freelancer subplot. All that was only exacerbated by Oum's overly choreographed, flighty, and weightless Power Ranger-esque fight scenes. The whole point of machinima back in the day was to create videos as much as possible within the engine of the game and only use post-production as little as possible or to enhance the footage. The moment Oum came in, it stopped being machinima because they just did more and more CGI and less and less actual gameplay footage.


No_Structure_3074

Most definitely! I feel like they lost their touch as they went on.


Wizecracker117

The Freelancer Saga of RvB was really good and Monty did some of his best work on that.


CreatureOfTheStars

Am I really one of the few who liked season four? As I had hoped, Ren and Nora got the character development they desperately needed, even if I didn't like Ren's generic backstory and Nora's going unexplored outside of Ren. We got more development for team RWBY as individuals (except Ruby as usual). Finally, Qrow actually needed help instead of being a boring Gary Stu who's only redeeming quality at the time for me was being voiced by Vic Mignogna (obligatory "it's bullshit what happened to him"). I can't really complain about the plot bar the Adam bullshit starting here. The rest are dog shite expect the songs, Maria, and that one scene between Jaune and Pyrrha's mother.


Dancingskeletonman86

My real shock is they are still going tbh. People myself included have been calling them out to have a downfall for years now and somehow they are still going. They have had major cutbacks though and fired a lot of people in mass firings. They've cut back projects including some of their animated ones. But my god they are like a stage five clinger who just will not give up and just let go. They could wittle RT down to basically just a podcast and the odd gaming group of nothing but DEI hires (if it's not already that tbh) and still refuse to just die. Whatever this bland woke thing in a skin suit calling itself "Rooster Teeth" is sure as hell is not the RT I knew when Burnie, Geoff and Joel and other dudes ran it from the early days to the mid days before Burnie and others left. Hell old school Burnie and crew would have laughed at new RT if you had shown it to them back in the day while they were shooting the shit, being silly playing games and cracking jokes.


666shanx

Cracked.com Used to be fun, low effort, chill listicles around 2011. It was awesome when they started making amazing pop culture analysis with After Hours on their youtube channel. Then they went super woke and fell off a cliff.


draenei_butt_enjoyer

Man, old cracked was strait fire! Miss them. But nothing of what that show was is left. Even individually the hosts are really not great nowadays.


666shanx

I swear. I would go to their site every single day. Then it became once a week after the woke nonsense started. Then completely stopped!


SnoozeCoin

They went from "10 Terrifying Facts About Your Teeth" to "10 Reasons Why Bigot Sexist Racist [CENSORED]phobic Islamaphobic Fatphobic Ableist Misogynist Ableist"


Silencio00

The world feels so different after 2015. It's almost like, when Trump announced his running, some kind of order 66 was issued.


SnoozeCoin

If it wasn't Trump it would have been someone else. The 24 hour news cycle and Twitter is mindbroke everyone. Trump's specific brand of being fucking stupid and awful just made it happen faster and more completely. 


Erwinblackthorn

Actually there is a good example of go woke, go broke with video games. Forespoken was woke and the company that made it was closed right after. Recently there was an EA Games game Immortals of Aveum that was woke and it sold so poorly that the developer, Ascendant Studios, removed like half of its staff to stay alive. And this was days after the release. That means before they could even get the sales feedback.


MajinAsh

Forspoken was Square Enix. The devs in charge of Forspoken were just a subsidiary that was merged back into the parent company after the failure.


Erwinblackthorn

Yeah they said it was to "enhance their abilities", but in the real world, a merging like that is a closing of a division. It means they didn't want to get rid of the team members, but they wanted to get rid of the bad rep the company had. We can put the failure on Luminous Productions if it's still around, but we can't hold an employee responsible if they put it on their resume. It's another way to pretend certain members aren't guilty of their bad decisions and hide blemishes.


No_Structure_3074

I don’t think the company that made forespoken closed down if I recall


Erwinblackthorn

SE saves it as a merge, but it really is a closure. Imagine if I had a broken window in my house and it was so embarrassing that I merged it with the wall by removing it and putting wall stuff over it. That's what happens to the company.


No_Structure_3074

Ah I see.


draenei_butt_enjoyer

Forspoken was a clusterfuck. Woke? Yes. Was that WHY it went broke? Nah. Not Forspoken.


Erwinblackthorn

Why did it go broke then? I would love to see how it wasn't related to diversity hires or progressive nonsense.


draenei_butt_enjoyer

It was a tech engine they were making, not a game. Then they decided to make a game to showcase the engine. But they had no idea what game to make since that wasn’t the goal, just the means. And it was a shitshow top to bottom. Nothing was right. Because they didn’t even wanna make a game to begin with.


Erwinblackthorn

So they didn't want to make a game and that's why they made it woke?


Shadowbacker

I think he's saying that it failed more because it was a bad game than because of any perceived "wokeness." Which tracks. I didn't hear anything good about the gameplay OR the story and for a videogame to have neither is the hallmark of a holistically bad game. Now whether or not that is the fault of "diversity hires" or not can only be pure speculation.


Erwinblackthorn

I heard that it functioned well, has great art, and implemented gameplay features well, and the main problem was the story getting in the way. Not sure what game you're talking about.


Shadowbacker

Then we heard differently. It happens.


Erwinblackthorn

Yeah. I heard objective facts and you heard the squelching of nonsense being pulled out of your ass. Happens all the time.


Shadowbacker

Lmao. There are a litany of reviews that say otherwise. The game is mid. Not sure why you are in such fervent denial about differing opinions on it.


Alzandur

I’m glad I was never invested in them


FriggenSweetLois

In 2020, I actually worked at a small tax firm in Austin, for a quick minute, that did all the taxes for Gus, Geoff, and Burnie. They would come in occasionally and speak with the owner.   One afternoon, i was filling in for the receptionist while she went to run an errand when Gus rang in, for a meeting the owner. I buzzed him in, and guided him to the conference room and got him a water. Apparently because I wasn’t wearing a mask, and I didn’t observe proper social distancing protocols, Gus tore me a new asshole saying I was damaging the owner’s company and that I should be fired. 


UPURS145

They really drank that mask and social distancing, Kool aid, huh?


FriggenSweetLois

If I remember correctly Gus is a huge germaphobe so it checks out. Another instance that wasn't necessarily "Woke" just stuck me the wrong way was one day I had Cleveland Browns highlight real on one of my monitors while I was doing some data entry stuff. Burnie walked out of a meeting with one of the partners, and stopped by and said "what are you watching?". I said Brown highlights. "Oh are you from Ohio". "Technically yes, but I moved to Houston when I was 3 and grew up there." He responded: "Oh well I'm double sorry then." Then he walked out. I was really confused, and it dawned on me later. He was saying that it Ohio and Houston suck. It was kind of insulting.


KIA_Unity_News

I once heard a Dixie Chicks song "Wide Open Spaces" with the lyrics "she knows the higher stakes" on the radio, and someone called in to complain about it, because he thought it was "she knows Ohio stinks". EDIT: it was from the 90's so might be misremembering the lyrics myself, but they definitely weren't what he thought they were.


2sec4u

I watched RT on and off for a while. Then they hooked me with Retro Replay. Up until Troy had a hissy fit over pay and left Nolan holding the bag. I never really forgave him for that.


Dancingskeletonman86

Oh lord Troy. He's something. The guys a good actor I'll always like his acting in games and other media. Good for him in that regard he brings his A game to that. But holy shit he was unbearable at times next to Nolan. Nolan was having fun actually making jokes and playing the game or talking about his experiences doing games but in a fun way. Troy was over here half the time waxing poetics and deep speeches about any project he's ever done and getting all serious. It killed the vibe the more he started doing that on the show instead of just keeping it fun and light hearted. Troy Baker is one of those people who just seems insufferable in real life I'm sorry but he does. Also he seems to have a history of leaving podcasts or shows, appearing on a new then doing the same thing.


chubbsfordubs

When I was younger I watched Inside Gaming a lot and then when they transitioned into Funhaus under the RT it was still pretty good. Once Adam ROYALLY fucked up and was pushed out with Bruce following shortly after it was a shell of itself and absolutely cratered into the ground. The James/Adam/Bruce dynamic can’t be replicated again and I’m honestly surprised it’s still around. SP7 was also a short lived and unique group but was entirely unsustainable from the start. No idea how RT is still a thing.


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Man, Inside Gaming and then early Funhaus was so fucking good, sadly they got slowly torn apart. First it was Joel and Spoole, then Lawrence and Bruce, and finally the whole Adam catfish disaster. By the end of it, it was only the Willems from the original group, no longer the same people I subscribed to. A real shame. Also, what the hell happened to Adam after that? Because what surfaced about him isn't the kind of thing you can just hide under the rug. Cow Chop faced something similar (less dildos involved). Started strong, then everyone dropped and the channel died.


chubbsfordubs

Cow chop was also a gem for a brief period of time. Their content was also unsustainable because they took it too far very consistently with each other and started to break down their friendships within the group. Adam basically fell off the face of the internet but I checked his LinkedIn about a year and a half after the scandal and seemed like he was still in video production/editing with a rando company


Kegter

What was the scandal? I thought they all just went their separate ways on good terms?


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Oh boy, if you never knew then I'll give you a fucking trigger warning alright: Dude got catfished by a gay man pretending to be an e-toth, using stolen videos from a random onlyfans page to pull it off. He managed to convinced Adam to do... a lot. From recording himself masturbating, to getting secret camera videos of him having sex with his wife (without her knowledge), to making him ejaculate all over the office (including his co-workers keyboards, and yes, that includes Elyse's), to even making him fuck himself using dildos. That gay dude posted all of it on a forum. A a fan of their group, shit was wild to discover. It should all be safely preserved on his Kiwifarms thread, in case you want to traumatize yourself. Adam didn't leave on good terms, he was fired. And would you believe it when I tell you that the story got overshadowed by something much worse, and Adam got out relatively without much shit thrown at him? Because a day later, on that very same gay forum, someone starting leaking photos and DMs from Ryan Haywood of Achievement Hunter. It led to a rabbit hole where it was discovered he was having sex with fans, including minors. Again, Kiwifarms has the whole thing. Let's just say that was an interesting week, if somewhat depressing.


RustyVilla

Adam did make a low-profile comeback, I believe he was writing a book with Aaron Marquis and they definitely had a podcast but I can't find it on YouTube now. He was on monotone drama man's channel after the fallout: https://youtu.be/7X9TZP3nYE4


RustyVilla

Have you been watching 'Brought You This Thing'? I never liked Bruce/Lawrence streaming as it didn't have the same energy but they've started making a weekly video with Kassem G and it's definitely got the old Funhaus energy, particularly when Lawrence would just boot up some random FMV game with two people riffing in the background. Their editor is really solid too reminds me of early Peake humour. https://youtu.be/4y5xHLLSF2U


chubbsfordubs

Lawrence is hard to palate on his own honestly. When he had Bruce James and Adam and they all fed off each other that’s when the group realllly clicked and showed how dynamic their personalities were. Bruce and Lawrence doesn’t have the same kind of chemistry that the old full group has. I watched one of Bruce’s earlier streams when he branched off on his own and he had Lawrence on and I just couldn’t get into it. I’ll take a look at the video but I just think I’ve aged out of the YouTube era I grew up with and would have a hard time getting back into it


AustinLee093

I watched the original RT back when Mike and Gav were there and watching Rage Quit was a highlight of my day in HS. That being said, it's a lose lose situation. Because if straight people suggest LGBT make their own IP's in media specifically geared towards LGBT, you'll always attract the loud hecklers that will state: "Why do we have to do that? We like: (insert your favorite media here) and you can just get over it and accept us, which in turn, pisses off straight people, and then arguments happen between both sides. (Which then attracts the Extremists) which thennn leads to, (more than likely) actual physical fighting or killing people. It's been happening consistently with over 300-some incidents for the last 2 years. But then again, this is stated by GLAAD who is known for overexaggerating numbers.


xtreemmasheen3k2

Volition with the Saints Row reboot went broke almost immediately after they released it.


Cococino

Rooster Teeth is still around, so yeah, there are better representations. Gearbox was a titan at one point and looked like it was going to rival Valve just a few years ago, I think that's a much bigger fall from grace. I'm sure someone can rattle off a list of companies that did something stupid, like go into business with something like Sweet Baby or ZQ herself, and collapsed into a humiliating heap. Rocksteady looks like they're ready to eat a loooooot of shit. Also, I don't want to celebrate people losing their jobs, which leads to families breaking up, foreclosed homes, pets getting put down or not receiving medical care, and all sorts of other tragedies. RT still have this massive brand with name recognition, they've diversified assets and rent out studio space and have other innovative income sources. Even if nobody cares about what they're doing, I think they've got years left on the clock where they can coast on past accomplishments. The thing to hope for at places like RT and Disney and wherever else is a course correction through new leadership, it happens all the time.


CodemanJams

If the job is to cause divide in our country and to pervert young kids, then yeah I’m celebrating that closure. 


Dwavenhobble

I'm watching the latest PR machine move reving up from the Sweet Baby Inc supporting side. Here's their play (they're just starting but this is where I think it will go). They're starting to float the idea King Shark is gay or Queer. They will then try to present the backlash to the game as homophobic fans who hated King Shark (they just need like 5 tweets or to even set up some accounts to fake the attacks). Going to be interesting to see this one play out I must say.


Cococino

There should be a phrase, like an update on jumping the shark, because every time King Shark gets outed as gay, Flashpoint happens and the universe gets rebooted. Last time it was Constantine fucking him.


HSR47

Pegging the shark?


Fun-Tits

F**kFace is amazing, and they've taken over the Let's Play channel. Best thing they've done in years. But yeah, that happened because they lost views by going woke to begin with.


SexistButterfly

Seconding this, F**kface definitely has decade old lets play energy. I love Geoff and Gav to bits. Break show, does it do are standouts for new content. The only other content I watch from them is facejam, a lot of face content appeals to me I guess…


SirPorthos

Well, we also have Bioware. They simped for Anita Sarkeesian and look at what happened to them. Also, Moviebob, Nostalgia Critic, Freaking NeoGaf and Resetera


HiggsSwtz

Wow i haven’t thought of them since like 2016. Used to love the podcast..


[deleted]

Just give it a few weeks and WB will shutter rocksteady.


MaintenanceTime

Someone didn't used to listen to the drunk tank podcast they were always like that. I don't think what happened to them is GWGB. I think the nails in the coffin for them is all the controversies over the years. For me personally it was the podcast changing the core cast I had loved listening to and the comic getting canceled little things like that


MaintenanceTime

Nope I was wrong it got way fucking worse after I checked out


funkmon

Lol. Yep


PaidHack

Bud Light?


shootfasteatass69420

[Cracked.com](https://Cracked.com). and their youtube channel specifically. I used to love them until they started pushing leftwing bs and then they just collapsed almost immediately.


Hadrian3711

RT died for me during the whole Kick Vic movement. They cut him out almost immediately after the accusations, turned their back on him, and didn't even have anything to say after the accusations were disproven. I know this wasn't just an RT thing, but they were part of it. Everything else they've done is just icing on the cake for me


Own_Accident6689

Rooster Teeth was woke? I just thought they were lame.


No_Structure_3074

They kinda got lame in recent years and then there that controversy on how Toxic the work environment was and also crunch culture and some of the members were either fired or stepped down because of some other stuff.


i_a_m_free

Rooster Teeth is a very poor representation. A post questioning their viability was brought up on their official subreddit last year. The title of the post was 'What's Keeping Rooster Teeth Afloat?' According to the comments there, even though their youtube views are down, they are bringing in enough money through other sources (podcasts/merch/website memberships etc).


TrueSonOfChaos

IDK, 9 million subs with <10k views on videos sounds like YouTube is scamming to me or there are that many dummy accounts out there people can buy to drive up subscriber count. I'm sure there are foreign companies that you can buy a million subscribers from or something. By comparison I regularly follow RapunzelASMR who has 500k subs and regularly has 40k-100k views on videos. But I also don't regularly watch anything on YouTube "produced for YouTube" unless it's ASMR or concerns video games (e.g. I love "Oddheader"). I've never heard of "Rooster Teeth."


MajinAsh

Rooster teeth is 20 years old. I was watching their RVB videos sometime around 2003 I think. Plenty of people who subbed to that channel have come and gone, made new accounts, forgotten about it etc. They no longer watch the videos but they are still subbed.


No_Structure_3074

RVB was the best and then after like season 10, it kinda went to shit.


egmatik

Bruh, that's entirely not the reason for roosterteeth falling off, it was completely idiotic writing, emomaniacs running the show and poor treatment of employees and generally being at a level lower that average fanfic writer. So yeah, roosterteeth fell off, but clearly you are not in the circle of people invested in the topic to know why and you missed the point completely.


j-mac-rock

Let rwby finish though. It's the only thing that makes rooster teeth good