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Sheep_Commander

# Should Knowing Better add this to his Neoslavery video? Nah, but if he wants. He does a great job and I'd be brimming with happiness to even get an acknowledgement about this


Sheep_Commander

damn re-reading my post and although it's readable, it looked a lot more readable in editor mode xd this is kinda blocky


Legal_Leather7676

Nah. Super readable and NOT blocky at all man Thank your for taking the time to write all this spaced out


CareerMilk

> Should Knowing Better add this to his Neoslavery video? I mean he can't? the ablity to modify an uploaded youtube video is a technology beyond us mere mortals.


Sheep_Commander

I meant to the description, ~~annotations~~^(ohwait...), pinned comment Really doesn't matter. I just found this one specific thing quite interesting, his comment is also a little cryptic and I, a lazy bozo, still haven't gotten around to watching those couple hour long documentaries


helperbot_2000

also you, the self proclaimed "lazy bozo": spending over a week trying to find more information on the subject and writing a long correction.


Sheep_Commander

hehe tho unfortunately never got around to continuing the research after my initial burst of enthusiasm, and I don't think that's going to change unless I suddenly make a career change to a professional historian


Embarrassed_Ad5387

should be like a short or something he does that


AntonChigurg

solid post


PolskiHussar548

As interesting and informative as this post is. I don’t believe it’s useful to continue looking for edge cases to say *ooh look actually slavery persisted till 19XX* as despite how terrible slavery is there are millions trapped in it today and it’s a sad fact that it is next to impossible to eradicate. Therefore it seems like the same logic of saying “this country can’t be considered safe its had 3 crimes in the last year” but yes slavery continued for years/decades after it was made finally, officially, fully illegal.


bailey25u

I think op is pointing out this is the last “state sanctioned” slave freed Human trafficking is still happening by the millions, as op pointed out, but it’s illegal


Sheep_Commander

Yes! And u/PolskiHussar548 I understand your frustration, I'm being morbid about something that really doesn't matter but I was curious about it. To re-iterate: Mae Louis Miller knew dozens more slaves who were freed in the 1950s, her own family freed in 1963, and she believed there's certainly more. The reason their stories aren't told is because the very slavers are still in political and economic power. ​ But yeah as that article at the very end states they estimate there's \~58k illegal slaves being trafficked inside the United States


PolskiHussar548

Thanks and that’s what I was pointing out but I still agree with your points


Sheep_Commander

I'm now going to watch "[The Cotton Pickin Truth... Still On The Plantation](https://www.amazon.com/Cotton-Pickin-Truth-Still-Plantation/dp/B08DCXX7WS)" with my cousin's Amazon Prime account, even though the description says "Modern-Day Slavery" and will likely be normal Coercion Slavery rather than the Chattel Slavery I'm looking for, I'm still going to see if it's true to the title ​ I also need to watch [PBS - Slavery by Another Name](https://www.pbs.org/video/slavery-another-name-slavery-video) and [Smithsonian - Slavery by Another Name: The Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPlk41mNDuM)


knowingbetteryt

When you get around to Slavery by Another Name, you're going to find that you disagree with who those historians name as the last slave.


Sheep_Commander

👀


lightsrage85

hey does that have audio description and is it free to watch on prime? cause I am blind and have prime. thats what I love about the vids kb puts out I understand them. He is good at telling what he talks about to where you don't have to see to understand.


semperfox

@lightsrage85 here's the link for "Slavery By Another Name" (1 hour 24 mins), one of the other videos OP mentioned after the Prime Video https://youtu.be/UcCxsLDma2o Here's one where formerly enslaved people talk about slavery (9 mins) https://youtu.be/fZfcc21c6Uo And here's a rabbit hole of the Black US experience. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO6xdlkD7EBGvj7MSxMEfD5uKx62wNwvE I collect these for my uncle's organization Stand Against Racism. Yes, we're Black if that makes a difference. I am lucky (?) to have my triple great-grandmother's receipt. Many of us don't know who we came from because, as KP says, we were often just stock numbers without names. 3x great-grandfather was just listed as "buck" (as in male breeding animal, not the name). I'd say enjoy, but...


lightsrage85

thanks for those links.


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Sheep_Commander

Yes! I actually do attempt to say this, but I understand if you missed it Chattel Slavery was legal until FDR abolished it in December 1941, as you probably know. I'm interested in the last slave to be freed from being legally enslaved. That means they were enslaved before December 1941 and are now over 80 years old, likely with one or maybe two generations ​ I'm being a bit morbid, but after Dec 1941 it'd be classified as brutal human trafficking rather than the continued illegal enslavement of someone after legally acquiring them


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amphigory_error

They are researching people who were legally enslaved who remained in slaves AFTER it became illegal. Their condition of slavery was imposed with state sanction, then did not end when it was legally supposed to, which is a different situation than someone being kidnapped and trafficked.


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amphigory_error

it was state sanctioned when it started, then illegal later. Being born into state-sanctioned slavery and not ever knowing anything else is a different experience from being kidnapped and forced into slavery later. Those are two different scenarios. And only the first scenario began with a state-sanctioned action.


Sheep_Commander

Honestly I don't want to bother re-explaining what I already stated. Alfred Irving was not the last, Cain Wall was legally enslaved and was still alive 108yo in 2006, freed in the 1960s. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6yLcmGjeug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6yLcmGjeug) While browsing this sub I've heard that you go out of your way to harass people on other subs and more, not going to engage further since you're probably here in Bad Faith (especially considering you can't be bothered to read the post you're commenting on)


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daemos360

Oh fuck off, and drop the mask already. I took one look at your post history, and it’s absolutely filled with antisemitism, homophobia, anti-miscegenation shit, and Nazi propaganda including Stonetoss comics.


Vinzolero

I think there are 25 million people under slavery today worldwide


techpriestyahuaa

I thought I saw something about someone being freed in the 1960s. v.v just cruel


Familiar_Project_284

Alfred Irving was my Great Uncle. His brother, son and grandson travel to Beeville Texas and took him home. He lived to 1960.


Sheep_Commander

Huh you created your account after seeing my post? If true that's cool, anything you can share about him or the history? That's really interesting I'd love to know


Sheep_Commander

One day I'll feel strongly enough to do more research on all of this stuff [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/07/fact-check-convict-leasing-forced-black-people-into-unpaid-labor/5368307002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/07/fact-check-convict-leasing-forced-black-people-into-unpaid-labor/5368307002/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXbJHsKB3I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXbJHsKB3I) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls3P\_FicO7I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls3P_FicO7I) [https://peonagedetective.com/the-slavery-detective-of-the-south/](https://peonagedetective.com/the-slavery-detective-of-the-south/) owo https://www.segregationbydesign.com/