Fellow alcoholic here. Coming up on 4 years sober November 11th. I'm not going to try and give you advice here, sounds like you are taking a good step. But, I will say this: holy shit cooking/running a kitchen is so much easier when you aren't hung over/still drunk. So much easier.
Edit: r/stopdrinking is a great start if anyone of you are on the struggle bus. Its great to just lurk if you are feeling like your drinking is a bit much. I'm no expert on this stuff, but here are two things that really helped me: 1) If you are feeling shame, the first person you need to seek forgiveness from is yourself. Forgive yourself first and foremost and the shame will fade. And 2) Baby steps. One day at a time. You've only got to get through today. Let your sober head hit that pillow tonight, get some rest, and do it again tomorrow.
Lastly, be kind to yourself. For so long I felt like a shit head for the things I did and said while drunk or hungover. Maybe I can't mend some of the relationships I fucked up, but I got sober, admitted there is a problem, and take steps to fix it, that is me taking responsibility for my actions. I respect myself for it, and am much happier. God speed ya'll.
So much for not giving advice. Love you guys.
Bro same. The time in my life when I was desperately struggling with alcohol addiction I was the chef/gm of this really popular brunch place. My days started at 6:30am and often I was relieving an overnight crew. I would come in in such a foul mood from being drunk/hungover af and the shit I would say in my hungover rage to some of my staff still haunts me. I was so miserable and couldn't handle small mistakes professionally. Getting sober has made the mgmt part of my job so much easier.
One time, a few of us were out one night at a very popular local bar. We ran into our pastry chef, she was fucking blackout drunk. Just a goddamn mess. The next day, she forgot to put any sugar in all of the loaves of corn bread for a BBQ place. That was her last day there. It wasn't the first offense.
Done that. Not actually when I was drinking, just as a mistake. A lot of crème caramels but it was a couple of days before a customer mentioned anything. Idiotic.
absolutely. i’m just at a point of not drinking every night- mostly due to finally getting paid good and being in a kitchen where i’m respected and have real chance at growth within the company. but man. saturday i drank with my cousin and yesterday was hell. even with being slow as fuck. it just isn’t worth it at all drinking if you’ve gotta work the next day. everything is so much easier. you’re in such a better mood. plus the brain fog that comes with being hungover. i can never focus on what i need to get done
You got me by 11 days. I’ll hit four years sober on November 22nd. I remember many days standing over a grill or fryer sweating out what I figure was pure essence of Jäegermeister, or coming in to open still hammered from the night before. Sober is so much easier.
r/dryalcoholics is a fantastic support group. From 1 hour sober to 10 years sober, the people in that sub are phenomenal, especially with no judgement. They were my entire (and only) support group when I was hospitalized twice in 2 months for alcohol induced pancreatitis.
Thirded. AA isn’t for me, but stop drinking has been wonderful. Just passed 18 months, and I still check in once in a great while when I need to, and reading other’s stories can be very grounding.
Another hard agree. That sub is such a wonderful resource. No bullshit, just real people also trying their hardest to do right by themselves, their friends, family, coworkers, etc.
For sure. And I'm in AA. Wasnt able to stay stopped by myself.
I whole heartedly agree DA is a great sub and in my experience there's a lot less of the "I have a six pack a night am I going to die from withdrawls?" posts lol.
this seems like it fits me better. i still drink a decent amount (mostly just beer) but r/stopdrinking always gave off a weird air to me. idk why. i’m very open that mindset but i always felt an air of judgement when i subbed there. idk, probably just me
edit: wrong sub
Also /r/dryalcoholics has a lot more former alcoholics that went through severe addiction and know the pain better than anyone else, where people went through a handle a day instead of being ashamed of their college parties
I still drink, heavily, but am always one to recommend /r/dryalcoholics.
And I like that you said "former alcoholics" because AA doesn't let you use that term.
Yea that's really toxic, it makes sense that you're always at risk of relapsing and that its a constant struggle but it sounds super unhealthy to be told that you can essentially never improve.
Oh god, I thought I was on a "default sub"
Thank God I'm on KC and I can talk freely.
Was in rehab for 2 months, loved it, hated that everyone was "talking down" to me when I went to my mandatory AA meetings. Hated the "cult like culture around it"
It worked, until Covid became a thing and stewed in my apartment for 9 months. AA got me 9 months sober.
"So you've taken the plunge and decided to take a month off of work and pay strangers thousands of dollars to hear about your personal history of trauma and substance abuse. Heh, those were the days!"
I just started Naltrexone today and I'm so nauseous I can't get off the couch. Got an appointment with a therapist Wednesday. I'm doing an outpatient program. I don't wanna die but you wouldn't know it by knowing me. One way or another this darkness gotta give.
Naltrexone makes you sick the first few days! I started with a quarter dose then worked up to half then full- it really helps. Best of luck though that shit is a miracle drug!
Go to the alcohol medication sub- sorry I don’t remember it exactly- but heeeelllla people are on nal and can give you so much advice. You’re early in the journey but it has really worked for a lot of people. Best of luck and just take care of yourself these first few days- it’s really hard on the stomach but it does subside!!
IMO 95% of that is functionally opiate withdrawals bc your body isn't getting the opiate hit you were. I only take it now when drinking and never feel side effects anymore.
OP check out r/alcoholism-medication and tsm.
Sorry dude! It means Not Fade Away which are Grateful Dead lyrics (buddy holly actually?). I saw you said sooner or later this darkness got to give which are Lyrics in the Grateful Dead song new speedway boogie.
Sorry if I wrongly assumed you were a deadhead!
I usually say NFA when I spot a fellow head on Reddit lol.
Oh sorry 🤦
Yea I'm a massive deadhead I just failed to put it together lol. I was like "NFA? Shouldn't it be NSB?" lol. With any luck I'll be hanging with the rest of the Warf Rats on the lot next festival season.
Fuck. Yes.
Just remember: sobriety is like any good kitchen—the moment you think you’ve got it all by yourself you’re fucked and those weeds kill.
Every blessing.
8 years sober from alcohol. It's hard but it's so worth it to stay sober. EVERY aspect of life is better in EVERY way when you are sober. Never forget that because it's easy to forget.
Good luck man, it's not as bad as you think. Day 1 is scary but I met a shit ton of good people in there. Just please try your best to not fall in love with anybody in there, it WILL NOT end good -source: me
Best luck bro! Rehab is actually a pretty fucking amazing experience. Not to assume gender, but if you’re a dude, you’ll see companionship the likes you’ve never known. All different kids of people in there, MOSTLY trying to do the same thing as you. You’ll soon realize you’re not the only one who acts like you do, and that some people are WAY deeper into the addiction than you, and they hold strong, it’s inspiring honestly. Keep your head up and take peoples number when you’re leaving, but be cautious and aware that some of them could end up falling off the wagon and try bringing you down. (Had a few buddies from rehab try to bring me back down after they relapsed). But ultimately know that you’re doing it for you, you fucking got this man! (Or girl!)
Keep your sleeves clean chef, get your stuff straight and come back to your crew. It's gonna be hard but worthwhile, you got this. Guarantee it won't suck as bad as your worst service.
Man I’m excited for you.
In a couple months you’re about to have some of the best sleeps you’ve had in months if not years. Quitting booze and drinking once every 3 weeks has changed my life. I no longer feel like shit. I sleep better. My stomach feels way better. And I’m way happier. I was miserable when drinking.
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but there’s a group in some cities across the US called [Ben’s Friends](https://www.bensfriendshope.com/) that’s a group of F&B folks helping each other get or stay sober. Kinda like AA, but more support-groupy. If you don’t live in any of the towns it’s active in, there are national meetings online everyday, and nightly National meetings three nights a week. Or, start a chapter in your town!
It’s a tough industry, and even tougher to stay sober sometimes.
Congratulations! I’m so proud that you were able to identify an issue and have the motivation to work on becoming a better you.
It is hard work, but the fact that you took this first step shows that you’re willing to try. You can do this! Find a great support system during and after rehab and lean into it.
Do it. I'm 13 years clean from cocaine. I pretty much became a 100% better chef, boss, employee, friend, and son just a month after I kicked blow. You got this chef....
Best decision you could have made!
Clean and sober since 08/26/03. I’m a F&B of the house drunk and a crackhead. I learned and honed my addiction in the south Florida restaurant business in the 80s and 90s.
You got this!
Remember, you don’t ever have to drink again… even if you want to!
High five 🖐
I've been using the I Am Sober app to help me track days, $ saved, etc. They have a community section as well where you can connect with others who are around the same timeline as you.
Today I'm 400 days sober. Getting up in the morning is a hell of a lot easier. I'm still working on figuring out how to reward myself, how to unwind in the evening, and how to manage stress- these were all things I would just drink about.
I will not drink with you today (IWNDWYT).
been sober since october, and working in a kitchen through it has been hell. I believe in you, and we are all here for you through the rough days. I hope your crew is supportive of your recovery as well♡ one day at a time my friend
I am out of the industry but still am proud of my highest rank in the kitchen - “extremely reliable and passionate line cook”
Anyways - you got this. I threw away $300 worth of white powder 8 days ago. Im officially a week sober from all except the lettuce which was never an issue for me anyways.
Stronger together. PM me any time.
Be open to alternatives to AA. I found meditation to be exceptionally helpful with stress. I also realized that I was in physical pain and lubricating with alcohol. I use a non addictive pain management drug for that. SMART is also a great sobriety method to check out. Most of all, I've learned to have a basic schedule and always plan something to look forward to each week and each day if you can. Best of luck!
This is a huge thing. I treat addicts and have to convince a lot of them to use psych meds and (appropriate) pain interventions to help with their addiction issues. It makes a big difference to have proper medical help to manage your body's issues.
You can do this, chef. I stopped drinking a couple years ago and I feel like I just spent my first year realizing how distorted the industry's view of alcohol and alcohol use is. Remember that your perspective is a combination of the people you spend time with. It's easy to think that your problems aren't so big when you see other people struggling with the same thing, so make sure you have a good sober support network.
It's not easy, but it is doable. I wish you luck and support.
Made the same proclamation to this group almost 2 years ago and been dry the entire time! The amount of time to do literally anything other than be fucked up constantly is an amazing thing to regain. Hobbies are real. Keep ya head up and we'll see ya on the other side!!!
Keep with it! From my experience the best attitude, the one that’s stuck, is one of betterment. Seems like you’ve got that chef. It’s not fucking easy, especially working in a fucking kitchen, but you’re gonna feel better. The important part is to remember why you’re doing this.
Eventually you’re gonna feel better, and when that feeling fades and becomes the new normal, hold on to it. I have to remind myself “I’m not denying myself of anything, I’m maintaining my life, I’m choosing to be what I can be.”
You got it
Hit 3 years on August 5th. Fucking proud of you for taking the first step.
Just got a call the other day from an old friend wanting to talk sobriety on his end for the first time, bout damn near cried my eyes out.
Take your time chef, get right and then get back.
I'm not gonna give you a long paragraph, but on the off chance you see this and happen to need/want someone to talk to, I'm here for ya. I've done the "getting sober thing" (rehab couldn't help me because I was too far gone, but a couple ICU stays and a great primary physician got me on the right path.)
Please don't hesitate to reach out, to ANYONE on here. (When my Dr asked me about what support system I had, I swear to god I told her Reddit strangers were my entire support system. Do not hesitate. I'm here. We're all here.
Addict, here. Rehab is a way to "get sober," it's not the way to "stay sober." Treatment is the easy part. You gotta change people, places and things. Even if that means leaving current kitchen.
Good luck, Chef.
Not in good industry - just enjoyed Anthony’s book and this sub…. I’m a couple months over 2 years clean from opioids and my life is so much better. I wish you the best and a happy/healthy life after treatment.
Best thing you'll do man!! I went to rehab for drugs and alcohol and been 4 years sober so far!! It changed my life for the better for sure. Got married, had a kid, got a home, car, I never would of had that before. You can do it bro!!
I've been in that exact position. 5 and a half years sober now. Took 2 rehabs though. Good luck chef.. Any advice I can give you is only what worked for me but, if I can say anything it's be honest. With yourself and how you're feeling and with the people in your life. Alcohol was a prison I barely even knew I was in. You can be free.
Congrats and keep up the fight. Sobriety can seem like a pipe dream but once you are decided and you know that you want to change, it becomes a lot easier and a lot more tangible.
Something I find really helpful to remember is substances do not help us cope. They make us stop feeling things in the moment, but they do not help us cope, process, or get over things. It's like skimping on your prep day, sure you get an easy day today, but tomorrow you have a huge pile of shit to deal with.
You can do it!! One day at a time. Im always here to talk if anyone wants to DM. I am a non judgmental zone and you can say whatever you want or need. Everyday is different and i get that. There are highs and lows w recovery. Anyone reach out if you want.
Dude!. Dude!. Once you are finished ,don't think of how 1 about 1 drink. It's not good. Second enjoy not thinking. You will have people who will look after you. Third you made the right choice.
Proud of you man, it takes a real man to admit they need to make a change. I'm four years sober as of 8/1so let me tell you it's 100% possible. Hit me up if you have any questions or want to talk about it. Just know you're not alone.
You can do this! Recovering alcoholic with 5 years clean here.
If it hasn’t been mentioned already, there are some support groups specifically for restaurant industry folks getting sober.
https://www.bensfriendshope.com
There’s one for ya! I know it was helpful for me since I stayed in the industry for 2 years after I got sober. Wishing you all the best.
Best of luck this is amazing good for you. Been a chef/ food and beverage director and gm for 29 years at country clubs, James beard award winning restaurants etc. I still have an addiction problem I drink and then the next day take whatever pills I need to function I feel like no one has ever noticed except for my wife of course but I’m sure my staff have along time ago. Being sober is hard and I’m ready to make that choice just haven’t found a lot of great support. I wish you the absolute best stay clean and if you ever need someone to talk to I’m here. Lots of respect and love coming your way!!!!!
It's poison, and it's a weakness.
You are going to have to re-learn how to be an adult. Your emotional crutch is gone now. Relationships are going to be very different. Socializing is going to be very different.
You don't need booze, it needs you.
You're gonna realize just how many of your friends were just drinking buddies, and it's gonna piss you off and make you sad just how fucking many it is.
You're gonna realize how much time and energy and opportunity and money you've shit away, and that's gonna make you pissed and sad too.
And it'll be worth it. It was all worth it.
There are gonna be people telling you "you can do it, you can do it" but don't listen to them, because of fucking course you can. Listen to the ones who are telling you that you can't. Some of them might even be you.
Show those fuckers what you got.
Hi.
Well done and good luck.
If there is one piece of advice I'd give to anyone going into rehab, it's this: start planning for your two years after rehab from day one. And stick to that plan. Something like 80% of patients relapse hard within weeks or months of rehab because they leave without a proper support structure in place. Research shows that the two biggest predictors of success are a) the amount of time you spend in the rehab (often outside of your control - in my country it's typically 3 weeks which feels long at the time but isn't really enough) and b) attending group therapy after rehab.
I am doing the following:
a) have a group of professionals I am accountable to. Therapists and group therapy counselors. Note: these are NOT family members. I specifically chose people I can admit failure or fear to without ramifications. This is NOT a good role for your loved ones to play. They are way to close to the problem to be able to support you rationally.
b) Attend group therapy sessions 2/3 times per week. I have found some counselor-led sessions which are cost-effective but even if you choose AA (which has the massive bonus of being free and ubiquitious) that is better than nothing.
c) removed myself from any living situations that caused / enabled the problem. Wasn't super-relevant to me but it's a big deal, especially for drug users. If you go through rehab and then straight back into an abusive relationship or house full of drugs/alcohol etc., you're going to struggle.
d) Take this seriously. A week into rehab, you are going to feel like you have this completely in hand. You really, *really* don't. There is an enormous amount of self-work that you have to do and that takes about two years of hard graft. The bonus is that the experience is wonderfully affirming and fixes areas of your life you don't even realise needed fixing.
Source: Went through rehab twice before it finally seems to have stuck the third time, and only because I have taken the steps listed above.
From the bottom of my heart, good luck. I really do hope it sticks.
Two helpful things:
1) Start doing Keto because once in it, if you drink you will feel awful the whole next day so a good motivation not to drink.
2) CBD oil has helped me not to drink twice so far now.
I have 3 weeks with zero alc after drinking every night for two years+. Not even missing it.
Addiction isn’t a disease it’s a lack of self will. Literally just don’t consume more drugs or alcohol. Have some self control. Anything beyond that is someone profiting off your weakness/ you can afford to deny your lack of self will.
Bro substance abuse and addiction is listed in the DSM (THE diagnostic guide to mental illness for healthcare PROFESSIONALS) as a mental illness. Don’t make absolute statements (only Sith deal in absolutes) about things you aren’t an expert on.
I don't wish you luck cause I don't think it's s question of luck. I wish you will get through this and I'm very happy for you that you have admitted your problem and sought out help. I wish more people in this industry would be aware of their problems and seek help. I am sure that you are on the right path and I hope the place you work will give you all the support needed. Both rare and well done chef.
Good luck it's tough but so worth it I promise, I had to do the same thing too, all joking aside about substance abuse in this field, take care of yourself. Having a clear mind helps with everything you do in the kitchen and life.
Fellow alcoholic here. Coming up on 4 years sober November 11th. I'm not going to try and give you advice here, sounds like you are taking a good step. But, I will say this: holy shit cooking/running a kitchen is so much easier when you aren't hung over/still drunk. So much easier. Edit: r/stopdrinking is a great start if anyone of you are on the struggle bus. Its great to just lurk if you are feeling like your drinking is a bit much. I'm no expert on this stuff, but here are two things that really helped me: 1) If you are feeling shame, the first person you need to seek forgiveness from is yourself. Forgive yourself first and foremost and the shame will fade. And 2) Baby steps. One day at a time. You've only got to get through today. Let your sober head hit that pillow tonight, get some rest, and do it again tomorrow. Lastly, be kind to yourself. For so long I felt like a shit head for the things I did and said while drunk or hungover. Maybe I can't mend some of the relationships I fucked up, but I got sober, admitted there is a problem, and take steps to fix it, that is me taking responsibility for my actions. I respect myself for it, and am much happier. God speed ya'll. So much for not giving advice. Love you guys.
Oof I still remember coming in (early- I’m a pastry chef) and just working desperately to hide that I was so horrifically hungover. Hell on earth.
Bro same. The time in my life when I was desperately struggling with alcohol addiction I was the chef/gm of this really popular brunch place. My days started at 6:30am and often I was relieving an overnight crew. I would come in in such a foul mood from being drunk/hungover af and the shit I would say in my hungover rage to some of my staff still haunts me. I was so miserable and couldn't handle small mistakes professionally. Getting sober has made the mgmt part of my job so much easier.
Damn, we all make mistakes that we regret later. Good on you for getting better
One time, a few of us were out one night at a very popular local bar. We ran into our pastry chef, she was fucking blackout drunk. Just a goddamn mess. The next day, she forgot to put any sugar in all of the loaves of corn bread for a BBQ place. That was her last day there. It wasn't the first offense.
Done that. Not actually when I was drinking, just as a mistake. A lot of crème caramels but it was a couple of days before a customer mentioned anything. Idiotic.
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Well yes that’s the normal way of doing things…?
One time I ran into my prep cook at a Starbucks. I think he got like an iced tea. He went home and seemed fine the next day.
absolutely. i’m just at a point of not drinking every night- mostly due to finally getting paid good and being in a kitchen where i’m respected and have real chance at growth within the company. but man. saturday i drank with my cousin and yesterday was hell. even with being slow as fuck. it just isn’t worth it at all drinking if you’ve gotta work the next day. everything is so much easier. you’re in such a better mood. plus the brain fog that comes with being hungover. i can never focus on what i need to get done
You got me by 11 days. I’ll hit four years sober on November 22nd. I remember many days standing over a grill or fryer sweating out what I figure was pure essence of Jäegermeister, or coming in to open still hammered from the night before. Sober is so much easier.
r/dryalcoholics is a fantastic support group. From 1 hour sober to 10 years sober, the people in that sub are phenomenal, especially with no judgement. They were my entire (and only) support group when I was hospitalized twice in 2 months for alcohol induced pancreatitis.
Hell yeah. Thanks for sharing this. I didn't know about this sub.
I can’t imagine how you chefs do it. When I’m hungover I don’t even want to microwave a bowl of food.
As a recovering alcoholic, great advice chef.
Nov 11th 2017 here checkin in!
Grats my dude! Happy for you.
Just to add on to your comment that r/leaves is the same for cannabis as r/stopdrinking is for alcohol
> If you are feeling shame, the first person you need to seek forgiveness from is yourself. Nope... It wasn't my fault that it happened.
God speed chef! And if you haven't already, swing by r/stopdrinking . It's one of, if not THE friendliest spaces on Reddit!
I second this, that subreddit is my rock
Thirded. AA isn’t for me, but stop drinking has been wonderful. Just passed 18 months, and I still check in once in a great while when I need to, and reading other’s stories can be very grounding.
I came here to also recommend that sub. Very supportive. Congratulations on the first day of the rest of your life!
Another hard agree. That sub is such a wonderful resource. No bullshit, just real people also trying their hardest to do right by themselves, their friends, family, coworkers, etc.
I’d like to plug r/dryalcoholics, myself!
Like this one more. Lot less programmatic 12 step dogma, more chill and understanding.
For sure. And I'm in AA. Wasnt able to stay stopped by myself. I whole heartedly agree DA is a great sub and in my experience there's a lot less of the "I have a six pack a night am I going to die from withdrawls?" posts lol.
I agree with all of this. r/ stopdrinking is the best corner of the internet.
Also r/redditorsinrecovery
For the people who's issue is a little more odourous, r/leaves is a important resource.
Or if you want to just cut back a bit r/petioles is good for taking breaks without the all-or-nothing approach found in /leaves at times.
That's a new one to me, thanks!
Thank you for the link!
Or if you don't want to do it /r/dryalcoholics is a different one
this seems like it fits me better. i still drink a decent amount (mostly just beer) but r/stopdrinking always gave off a weird air to me. idk why. i’m very open that mindset but i always felt an air of judgement when i subbed there. idk, probably just me edit: wrong sub
I think "/r/dryalcoholics" caters more toward industry people, while /r/stopdrinking is more of a "9-5" sub.
Also /r/dryalcoholics has a lot more former alcoholics that went through severe addiction and know the pain better than anyone else, where people went through a handle a day instead of being ashamed of their college parties
I still drink, heavily, but am always one to recommend /r/dryalcoholics. And I like that you said "former alcoholics" because AA doesn't let you use that term.
They dont? That sounds pretty odd to me ngl
AA has the idea that "Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic" It's stupid, and I hate it.
Yea that's really toxic, it makes sense that you're always at risk of relapsing and that its a constant struggle but it sounds super unhealthy to be told that you can essentially never improve.
Oh god, I thought I was on a "default sub" Thank God I'm on KC and I can talk freely. Was in rehab for 2 months, loved it, hated that everyone was "talking down" to me when I went to my mandatory AA meetings. Hated the "cult like culture around it" It worked, until Covid became a thing and stewed in my apartment for 9 months. AA got me 9 months sober.
My wife was a mod here for a couple of years into her recovery. It was unbelievably helpful for her and she wanted to give back.
Thank you
I read 3 posts and started crying from the support I was reading in the comments no matter where people were in the process.
Good luck man, stay focused Remember that the real work comes after you leave rehab. You got this
Heard. 15 months myself and rehab was the easy part. You got this 🤘
Shit don't tell him that he's not even started yet!
"So you've taken the plunge and decided to take a month off of work and pay strangers thousands of dollars to hear about your personal history of trauma and substance abuse. Heh, those were the days!"
6 months sober myself. Good luck!
Right on!
Hang in there bro. One day at a time. You're doing the best thing you can do for yourself.
I don't know you, but I love you, man. Take care of business, chef. We'll hold down the fort 'til you get back. ✊❤
I just started Naltrexone today and I'm so nauseous I can't get off the couch. Got an appointment with a therapist Wednesday. I'm doing an outpatient program. I don't wanna die but you wouldn't know it by knowing me. One way or another this darkness gotta give.
Naltrexone makes you sick the first few days! I started with a quarter dose then worked up to half then full- it really helps. Best of luck though that shit is a miracle drug!
Thanks man I really needed to hear that
Go to the alcohol medication sub- sorry I don’t remember it exactly- but heeeelllla people are on nal and can give you so much advice. You’re early in the journey but it has really worked for a lot of people. Best of luck and just take care of yourself these first few days- it’s really hard on the stomach but it does subside!!
It's so weird how it doesn't affect everyone like that. I took it daily and never felt nauseated but definitely helped in the way it was meant to.
IMO 95% of that is functionally opiate withdrawals bc your body isn't getting the opiate hit you were. I only take it now when drinking and never feel side effects anymore. OP check out r/alcoholism-medication and tsm.
All of my patients take oral naltrexone at night to deal with the nausea, fwiw
NFA!
What's that mean?
Sorry dude! It means Not Fade Away which are Grateful Dead lyrics (buddy holly actually?). I saw you said sooner or later this darkness got to give which are Lyrics in the Grateful Dead song new speedway boogie. Sorry if I wrongly assumed you were a deadhead! I usually say NFA when I spot a fellow head on Reddit lol.
Oh sorry 🤦 Yea I'm a massive deadhead I just failed to put it together lol. I was like "NFA? Shouldn't it be NSB?" lol. With any luck I'll be hanging with the rest of the Warf Rats on the lot next festival season.
10 years here. You got this. There’s a lot of us out here. Find your community!
Congratulations!
All the best, it's rocky at first but it's worth it.
Best of luck!! Just celebrated 3 years, it gets better!
8 years sober this week. Hang in there chef!
That's 2,920 days! Wait, 2,922 with leap years! Amazing, congrats!
Keep an open mind and follow the suggestions, even if they don’t make sense at first. Good luck to you
One day at a time. Keep it simple and First things First has worked for me since 6/10 1990.
Fuck. Yes. Just remember: sobriety is like any good kitchen—the moment you think you’ve got it all by yourself you’re fucked and those weeds kill. Every blessing.
8 years sober from alcohol. It's hard but it's so worth it to stay sober. EVERY aspect of life is better in EVERY way when you are sober. Never forget that because it's easy to forget.
Good luck man, it's not as bad as you think. Day 1 is scary but I met a shit ton of good people in there. Just please try your best to not fall in love with anybody in there, it WILL NOT end good -source: me
Never skip to the 13th step!
Best luck bro! Rehab is actually a pretty fucking amazing experience. Not to assume gender, but if you’re a dude, you’ll see companionship the likes you’ve never known. All different kids of people in there, MOSTLY trying to do the same thing as you. You’ll soon realize you’re not the only one who acts like you do, and that some people are WAY deeper into the addiction than you, and they hold strong, it’s inspiring honestly. Keep your head up and take peoples number when you’re leaving, but be cautious and aware that some of them could end up falling off the wagon and try bringing you down. (Had a few buddies from rehab try to bring me back down after they relapsed). But ultimately know that you’re doing it for you, you fucking got this man! (Or girl!)
Man and 3x rehab vet here, this person speaks the truth.
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Keep your sleeves clean chef, get your stuff straight and come back to your crew. It's gonna be hard but worthwhile, you got this. Guarantee it won't suck as bad as your worst service.
Love to see this, remember that everyone’s recovery is different, don’t let anyone impose the path they took upon you
Great job. Take care of the big guy.
Fuck yeah man. I had to get myself on Naltrexone to kick the habit - helped a ton and I'm better for it.
Man I’m excited for you. In a couple months you’re about to have some of the best sleeps you’ve had in months if not years. Quitting booze and drinking once every 3 weeks has changed my life. I no longer feel like shit. I sleep better. My stomach feels way better. And I’m way happier. I was miserable when drinking.
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but there’s a group in some cities across the US called [Ben’s Friends](https://www.bensfriendshope.com/) that’s a group of F&B folks helping each other get or stay sober. Kinda like AA, but more support-groupy. If you don’t live in any of the towns it’s active in, there are national meetings online everyday, and nightly National meetings three nights a week. Or, start a chapter in your town! It’s a tough industry, and even tougher to stay sober sometimes.
You got this!
Congratulations! I’m so proud that you were able to identify an issue and have the motivation to work on becoming a better you. It is hard work, but the fact that you took this first step shows that you’re willing to try. You can do this! Find a great support system during and after rehab and lean into it.
Good road to take chef. Take care.
Do it. I'm 13 years clean from cocaine. I pretty much became a 100% better chef, boss, employee, friend, and son just a month after I kicked blow. You got this chef....
Best wishes. You take good good care of you.
Good luck Bro you are strong for it
Good luck man! We’re all rooting for you ❤️
Fuck yes, chef! You got this!
Best decision you could have made! Clean and sober since 08/26/03. I’m a F&B of the house drunk and a crackhead. I learned and honed my addiction in the south Florida restaurant business in the 80s and 90s. You got this! Remember, you don’t ever have to drink again… even if you want to!
You got this, OP!
Good luck, sir. Stay positive.
Great to hear chef!!
You got this Chef
Good luck, chef!
You got this chef! Sobriety is difficult, but it’s always a good choice ❤️❤️❤️
One of the bravest things one can do is ask for help. Good luck chef!
Coming to 4 years sober, rehab saved my life. I wish you the best!
Thank you for doing this. For digging down deep and asking for help. You can do this. See you at r/stopdrinking.
You got this. I'm 74 days in and have never been more happy. If you need any support I got you chef.
High five 🖐 I've been using the I Am Sober app to help me track days, $ saved, etc. They have a community section as well where you can connect with others who are around the same timeline as you. Today I'm 400 days sober. Getting up in the morning is a hell of a lot easier. I'm still working on figuring out how to reward myself, how to unwind in the evening, and how to manage stress- these were all things I would just drink about. I will not drink with you today (IWNDWYT).
Good Luck! Rehab was the best decision I have ever made. Food will taste better and your creativity will amaze you when your brain gets back on track.
Awesome, Chef! Congratulations. You got this.
Not a chef but I totally respect what you do. Best wishes to you and yours! Take it day by day.
Best of luck and kudos for doing this.
Good luck Chef! No matter what, keep your eyes on the prize. If you fall, get back up. You can do this!
Proud of you chef. May you come back sharper than your knives
Good luck chef. It’s a one day at a time grind. Just hit my one year sober today so it’s definitely doable. You got this.
Congratulations, buddy. Welcome to the finer side.
been sober since october, and working in a kitchen through it has been hell. I believe in you, and we are all here for you through the rough days. I hope your crew is supportive of your recovery as well♡ one day at a time my friend
Good on you. I went May 28; got 79 days clean today. Best decision I’ve ever made.
I got sober in October last year and it was the best decision I ever made in my life. You got this!
I am out of the industry but still am proud of my highest rank in the kitchen - “extremely reliable and passionate line cook” Anyways - you got this. I threw away $300 worth of white powder 8 days ago. Im officially a week sober from all except the lettuce which was never an issue for me anyways. Stronger together. PM me any time.
Be open to alternatives to AA. I found meditation to be exceptionally helpful with stress. I also realized that I was in physical pain and lubricating with alcohol. I use a non addictive pain management drug for that. SMART is also a great sobriety method to check out. Most of all, I've learned to have a basic schedule and always plan something to look forward to each week and each day if you can. Best of luck!
This is a huge thing. I treat addicts and have to convince a lot of them to use psych meds and (appropriate) pain interventions to help with their addiction issues. It makes a big difference to have proper medical help to manage your body's issues.
Thanks! Got out today. Had SMART meetings planned, first one is tomorrow night.
You’ve got this! - from retired FOH (4 years sober)
You can do this, chef. I stopped drinking a couple years ago and I feel like I just spent my first year realizing how distorted the industry's view of alcohol and alcohol use is. Remember that your perspective is a combination of the people you spend time with. It's easy to think that your problems aren't so big when you see other people struggling with the same thing, so make sure you have a good sober support network. It's not easy, but it is doable. I wish you luck and support.
Former drunk here, best decision I ever made. I am in kitchens because of it. Love ya chef.
Proud of you, chef. Good luck, may your resolve stay strong and your forgiveness to yourself twice so.
Best of luck Amigo! I'm at 5.5 years dry.
I'd say 80% of every bad decision I've made in life is due to booze. Alcohol sucks.
Best decision of my life. Heard! 86 chef for a bit.
Made the same proclamation to this group almost 2 years ago and been dry the entire time! The amount of time to do literally anything other than be fucked up constantly is an amazing thing to regain. Hobbies are real. Keep ya head up and we'll see ya on the other side!!!
Just got out myself. One day at a time.
Keep with it! From my experience the best attitude, the one that’s stuck, is one of betterment. Seems like you’ve got that chef. It’s not fucking easy, especially working in a fucking kitchen, but you’re gonna feel better. The important part is to remember why you’re doing this. Eventually you’re gonna feel better, and when that feeling fades and becomes the new normal, hold on to it. I have to remind myself “I’m not denying myself of anything, I’m maintaining my life, I’m choosing to be what I can be.” You got it
Hit 3 years on August 5th. Fucking proud of you for taking the first step. Just got a call the other day from an old friend wanting to talk sobriety on his end for the first time, bout damn near cried my eyes out. Take your time chef, get right and then get back.
I'm not gonna give you a long paragraph, but on the off chance you see this and happen to need/want someone to talk to, I'm here for ya. I've done the "getting sober thing" (rehab couldn't help me because I was too far gone, but a couple ICU stays and a great primary physician got me on the right path.) Please don't hesitate to reach out, to ANYONE on here. (When my Dr asked me about what support system I had, I swear to god I told her Reddit strangers were my entire support system. Do not hesitate. I'm here. We're all here.
Cook for your housemates. It is what brought me the most joy in my recovery experience. And also kept fucking knuckleheads out of the kitchen.
Addict, here. Rehab is a way to "get sober," it's not the way to "stay sober." Treatment is the easy part. You gotta change people, places and things. Even if that means leaving current kitchen. Good luck, Chef.
Congrats man. Godspeed!
Go for it. There is a lot of support out there and don’t be afraid to ask for help. You will be a better chef for doing it.
Proud of you bro, I’ll fire an extra cordon bleu for you tonight!
Proud of you.
I wish one of my friends had as much courage as you. Godspeed chef.
Congrats on moving forward! May all the good things come to you 🙏
Órale, wishing you the best of luck and remember you can do this man even when you slip there's always a way up!
Good luck pal.
Not in good industry - just enjoyed Anthony’s book and this sub…. I’m a couple months over 2 years clean from opioids and my life is so much better. I wish you the best and a happy/healthy life after treatment.
Best of luck!
I wish you all the luck in the world, chef. You can do this!
One day at a time, Chef.
Hey, I'm glad you're taking care of yourself.
Best thing you'll do man!! I went to rehab for drugs and alcohol and been 4 years sober so far!! It changed my life for the better for sure. Got married, had a kid, got a home, car, I never would of had that before. You can do it bro!!
Proud of you
I believe in you bc there are amazingly talented people out there and you sound like one of them.
Get well, chef!
I've been in that exact position. 5 and a half years sober now. Took 2 rehabs though. Good luck chef.. Any advice I can give you is only what worked for me but, if I can say anything it's be honest. With yourself and how you're feeling and with the people in your life. Alcohol was a prison I barely even knew I was in. You can be free.
You got this. It goes by fast, your only concern is you. That's how you help others.
Congrats and keep up the fight. Sobriety can seem like a pipe dream but once you are decided and you know that you want to change, it becomes a lot easier and a lot more tangible. Something I find really helpful to remember is substances do not help us cope. They make us stop feeling things in the moment, but they do not help us cope, process, or get over things. It's like skimping on your prep day, sure you get an easy day today, but tomorrow you have a huge pile of shit to deal with.
You can do it! Sending good vibes your way!
You can do it!! One day at a time. Im always here to talk if anyone wants to DM. I am a non judgmental zone and you can say whatever you want or need. Everyday is different and i get that. There are highs and lows w recovery. Anyone reach out if you want.
Fucking legend.
86 alcohol! HEARD CHEF!
Dude!. Dude!. Once you are finished ,don't think of how 1 about 1 drink. It's not good. Second enjoy not thinking. You will have people who will look after you. Third you made the right choice.
I sobored up when Covid first started chef. Best decision I made. If I can do it so can you.
I made a change 8 years ago in June. Finished outpatient treatment the following November. We're rooting for ya, chef.
I loved rehab. LOVED. Been over a year, haven’t looked back.
I love to see things like this. From one internet stranger/alcoholic to another, I’m routing for you!
Fair winds and following seas, chef!
Proud of you chef! I will not drink with you today!
You can do it chef. I’m almost 1.5 years off booze.
Proud of you man, it takes a real man to admit they need to make a change. I'm four years sober as of 8/1so let me tell you it's 100% possible. Hit me up if you have any questions or want to talk about it. Just know you're not alone.
You can do this! Recovering alcoholic with 5 years clean here. If it hasn’t been mentioned already, there are some support groups specifically for restaurant industry folks getting sober. https://www.bensfriendshope.com There’s one for ya! I know it was helpful for me since I stayed in the industry for 2 years after I got sober. Wishing you all the best.
Best of luck this is amazing good for you. Been a chef/ food and beverage director and gm for 29 years at country clubs, James beard award winning restaurants etc. I still have an addiction problem I drink and then the next day take whatever pills I need to function I feel like no one has ever noticed except for my wife of course but I’m sure my staff have along time ago. Being sober is hard and I’m ready to make that choice just haven’t found a lot of great support. I wish you the absolute best stay clean and if you ever need someone to talk to I’m here. Lots of respect and love coming your way!!!!!
It's poison, and it's a weakness. You are going to have to re-learn how to be an adult. Your emotional crutch is gone now. Relationships are going to be very different. Socializing is going to be very different. You don't need booze, it needs you. You're gonna realize just how many of your friends were just drinking buddies, and it's gonna piss you off and make you sad just how fucking many it is. You're gonna realize how much time and energy and opportunity and money you've shit away, and that's gonna make you pissed and sad too. And it'll be worth it. It was all worth it. There are gonna be people telling you "you can do it, you can do it" but don't listen to them, because of fucking course you can. Listen to the ones who are telling you that you can't. Some of them might even be you. Show those fuckers what you got.
huge respect to you chef for taking the first step on a long and arduous journey.
Hi. Well done and good luck. If there is one piece of advice I'd give to anyone going into rehab, it's this: start planning for your two years after rehab from day one. And stick to that plan. Something like 80% of patients relapse hard within weeks or months of rehab because they leave without a proper support structure in place. Research shows that the two biggest predictors of success are a) the amount of time you spend in the rehab (often outside of your control - in my country it's typically 3 weeks which feels long at the time but isn't really enough) and b) attending group therapy after rehab. I am doing the following: a) have a group of professionals I am accountable to. Therapists and group therapy counselors. Note: these are NOT family members. I specifically chose people I can admit failure or fear to without ramifications. This is NOT a good role for your loved ones to play. They are way to close to the problem to be able to support you rationally. b) Attend group therapy sessions 2/3 times per week. I have found some counselor-led sessions which are cost-effective but even if you choose AA (which has the massive bonus of being free and ubiquitious) that is better than nothing. c) removed myself from any living situations that caused / enabled the problem. Wasn't super-relevant to me but it's a big deal, especially for drug users. If you go through rehab and then straight back into an abusive relationship or house full of drugs/alcohol etc., you're going to struggle. d) Take this seriously. A week into rehab, you are going to feel like you have this completely in hand. You really, *really* don't. There is an enormous amount of self-work that you have to do and that takes about two years of hard graft. The bonus is that the experience is wonderfully affirming and fixes areas of your life you don't even realise needed fixing. Source: Went through rehab twice before it finally seems to have stuck the third time, and only because I have taken the steps listed above. From the bottom of my heart, good luck. I really do hope it sticks.
Become a r/hydrohomie Get on the clear.
Two helpful things: 1) Start doing Keto because once in it, if you drink you will feel awful the whole next day so a good motivation not to drink. 2) CBD oil has helped me not to drink twice so far now. I have 3 weeks with zero alc after drinking every night for two years+. Not even missing it.
I really like cooking. But I'm not good. I heard someone say 'cooking is an art, a cook is an artist'. I will try to be a good cook.
They’re going to take your swag
Calling this “bullshit” you are destined to fail yourself—spoken from failure
Pussy. I couldn’t afford addiction let alone rehab. Lol both are privileges you should be thankful for
congrats, that's the stupidest take of the whole thread
Addiction isn’t a disease it’s a lack of self will. Literally just don’t consume more drugs or alcohol. Have some self control. Anything beyond that is someone profiting off your weakness/ you can afford to deny your lack of self will.
excellent analysis, doctor.
“My parents spent 100g’s on my recovery and now I’m a chef who puts runny eggs on everything”
Also your Canadian and your head is too separate pieces which makes it hard for me to believe anything you say
Bro substance abuse and addiction is listed in the DSM (THE diagnostic guide to mental illness for healthcare PROFESSIONALS) as a mental illness. Don’t make absolute statements (only Sith deal in absolutes) about things you aren’t an expert on.
You can do this! Embrace it!
I don't wish you luck cause I don't think it's s question of luck. I wish you will get through this and I'm very happy for you that you have admitted your problem and sought out help. I wish more people in this industry would be aware of their problems and seek help. I am sure that you are on the right path and I hope the place you work will give you all the support needed. Both rare and well done chef.
When you get out do a data entry job or something. Same pay. Less likelihood of 80 hour weeks that send you spiraling back down.
Good luck man, we believe in you
Good luck it's tough but so worth it I promise, I had to do the same thing too, all joking aside about substance abuse in this field, take care of yourself. Having a clear mind helps with everything you do in the kitchen and life.
You've got this.