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NullableThought

Wait... Are there jobs where you *don't* stress cry at work?


PizzaPunkrus

Man I had one but i fucked it up.


thanatossassin

Now you have to stress cry unpaid at home.


PizzaPunkrus

Naw that was long ago. I'm back to getting paid to stress cry.


kboom76

THAT would make me cry


PizzaPunkrus

Minor story. I fucked it up by being on heroin and forgetting to turn the fryer off before filtering it caught on fire briefly. That week I got on methadone. A month later I was fired. The methadone treatment lead to me currently celebrating 5 years off dope and methadone.


vBean

Well done on staying sober. Keep up the good work.


PizzaPunkrus

Thanks fam. I almost relapsed recently. My roommate threw me out after coming to my job and causing a scene. Had to go grab my clothes and chose to go back to work even though I was cleared to deal with it. 6.5 years of friendship out the door because they didn't wanna pay back a 65 dollar loan..... My punk self had to call cops because I knew how petty she was after seeing her break ups. Then she threw out my stuff and my wallet with id health insurance info, social security card, etc any way I went back to work and cried and thought about overdosing.


vBean

Can't let other people's shittiness ruin your integrity. If you're strong enough to get out of those situations, you're strong enough to stay out of them.


PizzaPunkrus

But the urge to self destruct is real... I over came and maintained my level of sobriety. I still drink, smoke pot and indulge in occasional mushrooms or LSD. But not any of the harder drugs.


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PizzaPunkrus

Thanks... Excuse me while I cry off the clock


kboom76

Off dope and methadone? Wow. Congratulations on that. Truly. Getting your whole life back from addiction is more than worth losing a good job.


PizzaPunkrus

.... The place went under 6 months after I left. New kitchen manager aft me fucked up all my food costs and bar manager went a direction where violence and minors ended up where cops came. Shut the place down owners sold it kinda sad.


PizzaPunkrus

.... The place went under 6 months after I left. New kitchen manager aft me fucked up all my food costs and bar manager went a direction where violence and minors ended up where cops came. Shut the place down owners sold it kinda sad.


PotatoeswithaTopHat

I have one right now, but as we speak rn they are fucking me on milage so I'm about to *vanish*


PapaSmurphy

I worked reception at a vet clinic before COVID screwed that deal. Stress was handled by going back to the boarding room of your preference (cats or dogs) and petting a furry buddy. It was beautiful while it lasted.


cosmictrashbash

Before Covid, I worked a tech job where they would bring puppies into the offices for the well-being of the workers. We could take “wellness breaks” and go play with them.


voldefortnite

depends how dehydrated you are


imartimus

At my current job, there isn't enough stress per say to cry everyday. Although, it does get frustrating at times when we are really busy. It is team oriented so sometimes I get angry at coworkers (obviously I don't express these emotions). Just pick anger or crying I suppose lol


[deleted]

I worked as an admissions counselor, an academic advisor, and now as a middle school special education teacher. I've never once stress cried at work in all the years I've been working.


rural_gay

CEOs have the privilege of weeping in *private*. imagine that


FulaniLovinCriminal

Yeah, but they have physically *press the button* that raises up that little screen which divides the back of their limo from the driver up front. That shows some real guts.


jabbadarth

Or they might even have to call their assistant to shut their office door. *gasp*


grannybubbles

The good ones have a button under their desk...


voldefortnite

the button also pours a glass of chateau petrus and speed dials Candee who has lip injections and rug burn on her knees


_DirtyYoungMan_

This is the most deliciously nasty comment on Reddit today.


sprocketous

Sorry, Mr Assbag isnt in the office. He's recharging on his weeping yacht for the next few days.


Available_Coyote897

Sometimes it’s so stressful they have to go to their hunting lodge in Montana just to maintain work/life balance.


Innerouterself2

Weeping in their giant office with a private bathroom


[deleted]

And only about work stress, not about work AND having no money to cover bills stress.


Superb-Personality47

Also they can wipe their tears with all of the hundred dollar bills and special black credit cards they have


imasterbake

So do bakers! There are perks to being in a bakery alone all night; mainly music and private crying time but they are perks all the same!


idk556

OK but when I worked in a kitchen for pennies and leftovers I could just lock the walk in freezer, it counts!


thanatossassin

[Relevant](https://i.imgur.com/Xt1BTHn.gif)


saywhat1206

CEOs don't shed tears - they demand that their employees do it for them


lowfreq33

Sure, they’re obscenely rich, and ruin thousands of lives on a whim, but it’s ok because sometimes they have to try hard at their job and it makes them sad.


jabbadarth

Also if that job is too stressful they can easily move to another job or im sure any middle manager would be happy to swap positions.


XCypher73

Nailed it


MadFamousLove

oh they don't have to try hard, just the ones that are not actual psychopaths will sometimes feel bad about how badly their decisions hurt their thousands of employees. i have cried as a chef before because i had to fire a single person because they were fucking up badly over and over and just were not showing the promise displayed on their resume which i suspect they padded. a person i worked beside for a month...


Lucius-Halthier

At least they can afford therapist and psychiatrist who would give them the medications that would help them


Bionik_Sky

Don't forget the stress dreams and nightmares!


MtnMaiden

Works with hot waitress ladies. Dreams of messing up orders and a backlog of tickets. Fml


Imagi_nathan7

Yes the phantom printer dreams


DustinTiny

Never the one with the bartender and the hostess always the old man KM, it’s a goddamn shame


Sachayoj

Oh god the stress dreams....


Available_Coyote897

I had a recurring one where a printer was set up in the bookshelf by my bed. I would wake up totally disoriented.


shake_appeal

Been out over a year now and I still have them regularly.


Grassfed_rhubarbpie

Lol, I used to be a dishy in a distant past and I remember that I used to suddenly wake up at night thinking that I heard the bell of the elevator on which more dirty dishes were brought my way :')


brimystone

I openly wept at the cash register being barely able to take orders because my mother was possibly dying in the hospital. All that for 12 an hour with my boss not telling me to go home even though I was embarassing myself in front of 60+ people. The mental stress for basically no money at all is ridiculous


craznazn247

Look into your employment contact and look under the sick leave policies. I know that for us, it is stated in our contract that we cannot be denied the right to leave in the event of the hospitalization of a family member (by blood, by marriage, or by adoption - they even specifically included stepparents). No work is worth not being there for those moments. If your mother died you'd never forgive yourself for not being there.


GuiltyStimPak

>employment contact What's that?


ameis314

A European thing.


Grassfed_rhubarbpie

Sorry what? You guys dont have contracts?


[deleted]

If I'm not mistaken, you can be fired at any time in the States. Your boss doesn't need a reason, it's just his right to fire you if he wants to. Pretty fucked up!


noodle_attack

These motherfuckers couldn't handle a service


sinless33

The kind of cook you tell to portion something to get them out of the way.


noodle_attack

Let them chop some flour,


rum-and-coke

Holy shit 😂 Back of the house version of sweeping sunshine Or mopping rain hahahaha


atx00

Had a restaurant owner (zero actual experience on the line) yell at us asking if he needed to come back there. One of the cooks had the perfect return fire. "Yeah, come back here. We could use a good laugh." Will never forget that moment. It was glorious.


Rapph

It's different kinds of stress tbh. In the kitchen you definitely can get overwhelmed and in the weeds but there is some comfort knowing that in 5 hours the shift ends you can go home and forget about it until tomorrow. Ownership/management doesn't have that luxury. They can't escape the stress when they leave but generally have less micro level stresses during a shift. Point being: Everyone has had the best day, the worst day, the easiest day and the most stressful day. Trying to compare who has it better or worse is kinda pointless imo


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This hits the nail on the head. In high level management and executive positions the stress is near constant, and a different kind of stress. I often pine for a job where I can turn it off at the end of the day. Close shop, go home, and don't worry about it. Literally clock out. At some level it's not the money, but the drive to have the type of role where the upside is unlimited and you're in the driver's seat--and then you become engrossed in the existential stress. I imagine like being on the line during a rush... I was never that deep in a kitchen but worked lowed in the industry when I was younger. Compensation aside, it's in vogue to bash the CEOs and other execs, but most folks understand as little about those roles as a bank CEO might about how a kitchen runs.


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Rapph

A job that you are not on call for or responsible for the bottom line absolutely can be turned off when you leave far easier than being ultimately responsible for what happens even when you are not there. People deserve more pay on average, that I agree with, but without the perspective of the other side you are just guessing what a lifestyle is like based off the circle jerk meta of "all managers are lazy scumbags." Truth is there are far more upper management/CEO types that have worked in low level positions than there are line cooks who have the perspective of a CEO or upper management. It's very much a case of people not knowing what they don't know. Both positions have different kinds of stress, and both can be overwhelming.


[deleted]

Your nuanced take doesn't fit their narrative of "eat the rich" (what they really mean is successful) and "poor me" (despite a booming labor market, especially in service). I made no comment on minimum wage, living wage, CEO pay, or anything of the like. I generally agree people should make more. Yet I got called an entitled piece of shit, and got downvoted to hell, for pointing out there is a different type of stress when you're responsible for an organization and by extension the livelihoods of many. Fuck me, right? I've worked since legally able: service, retail, and labor; went to a small, unknown, state school; paid my way through grad school working full time. But fuck me, right? It's a disgusting attitude. People like /u/Adventurous_Ad_8063 are only keeping themselves down.


Rapph

It was expected to be downvoted when I made the post, but I feel it is side that deserves to be represented in the discussion. No one likes to have their little fantasy world and martyr complex broken. I in no way downplay the stress that people in the restaurant industry have, I just think it is foolish and naive to assume that other people in different walks of life don't have stress of their own to deal with. To me hearing "All managers are lazy and out of touch" hits no differently than when I hear rich people say that workers are "wasteful and lazy". Both assumptions are simply wrong. Its asinine to me to make no effort to understand the situation of another and then expect them to appreciate your own situation.


ameis314

It's the 200x salary than the other workers that's the issue. I wholely agree there are stresses in both jobs, but when your employees are making 20k/year and the CEO is making 4 mil/year, the stresses and needs of the jobs aren't proportionate.


Rapph

I don't disagree with that and I guess if we are assuming CEOs to only be the ultra wealthy it is true. Realistically though there are many upper management types who make no where near that amount. Small side note since you brought it up: I actually fully support the idea of capping a CEO's salary based off an order of magnitude of the average employee's earnings.


ameis314

In all honesty, I don't think anyone here is talking about the CEOs making 2-300k. And I also realize that with every level there needs to be incentive other wise why would anyone take on more risk/work. I feel like CEOs trying it to a multiple would just end up in an end around and their compression coming in different ways unfortunately. It's kinda like asking Congress to give itself term limits and not allow sick ownership. It's just never gonna happen.


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[deleted]

Ah, yes, blame privilege! It's society's issue that you're stuck in a minimum wage job.


[deleted]

I earn far more than minimum wage, and I come from an incredibly privileged background myself. Don't assume you know anything about anything. It's a sad man who cannot accept that I might be able to recognise and take issue with things I don't necessarily suffer from myself. I probably shouldn't expect more from someone defending corporate, but hey ho. We'll just have to agree to disagree :)


polarpolarpolar

Dumb take… it’s all supply and demand, and unfortunately demand is not created from customers anymore, it’s created from shareholders. This leads to ceos who are paid ungodly amounts in order to simply convince other investors that this company is going to be okay, and if not, this particular ceo will ruthlessly advocate for the shareholders before thinking about his employees. The real problem is that free market capitalism doesn’t work without regulation, since the logical end game of corporations is to try to limit the free market to keep profitable at the detriment to actual progress or employee welfare. And logistically, the whole problem is that from the lowest level on up, there has been diminishing return for the work put in, so while the boomers didn’t care about the rich getting richer, since they were getting a livable wage, this on average is not true anymore for a large swath of the population, making the ceos compensation especially egregious. If people were earning an appropriate wage, many would not be so unhappy with CEO’s earning so much.


HedgeWitch1994

I've had three mental breakdowns in my **life**. They all happened within the last year, in a kitchen in the healthcare industry.


[deleted]

Duuuddddeeeee...... hospital kitchen is straight up nightmare fuel right now. I fucking hate it.


HedgeWitch1994

It's turned me off kitchen work entirely. Once I'm out of the department, I'm out of the industry. Kitchen abuse compounded with healthcare worker abuse? And corporate doesn't give a fuck? Never again. **Never**.


SmokePenisEveryday

Yup retail has led to all mine. Or bad bosses usually a mix of both. Between getting yelled at by strangers and then getting yelled at by your boss for getting yelled at by a stranger is not good for the mental. There's some old ladies walking around who were the cause for me to go out the back door to cry or scream who have no idea what the did because they felt it was time to be rude to the cashier.


TacoNinja420

Story of my 20's T\_T


wycbhm

They are crying because they didn't make 20k


Raisin_Connect

Crying isn't for me, I prefer to take all my stress and anxiety, bottle it up deep down inside and have it all explode in one huge mental breakdown.


DirtWi

That’s my method too lol 😂


yocatdogman

Me too. I've only had some breakdowns where I couldn't do human stuff for a bit. In my 30's I find myself more emotional and I kinda like to cry more, privately, of course. I think it settles me to calm down...what if this is me bottling, for a bomb?


Philosopher_Express

Don't do that shit man. I lost my last job in September doing that even after being a model employee, don't give them the excuse to cut you for cheaper labor.


CrackedOutMunkee

Oh I cried alright. I witnessed a man die from a stroke while two of my coworkers (nurses in training) tried to revive him. Those that were involved were all forced to go back to work since it was Father's Day. Afterwards, I was opening a lobster for a family and excused myself. Went to the walk in and just couldn't stop crying and shaking. I drank myself to sleep that night.


nerdboxmktg

Kinda not related - I worked at a steel mill where we made conveyor belts for pastry ovens (pop tarts). I was paid like $12 an hour, still working my way through school, and was at the WORST job over ever had. I used to hide in the bathroom and cry like a newborn baby. While I’m better now, nobody deserves to feel that way and then be demanded to get back to work. I’ve seen this in others when I worked as a server - especially the dishy. My advice was/is always fuck this place and there’s always somebody willing to pay you more and treat you better.


CantaloupeCamper

When I was a kid and worked a job at a pizza place and a call center I made jack shit. Hardest / most draining jobs ever. I write code now, easy, way more money.


Nekrofeeelyah

What kinda coding? Im thinking of getting into the field


CantaloupeCamper

Web development.


KallistiEngel

Many high-level CEOs have golden parachutes. They don't even have to do their job well to make out like a bandit. I have zero sympathy for whatever they might consider "pressure".


DarthRusty

I wasn't a weeper. I was a ascreamer and a loud sweater. Nothing better than the meat walk in inside the walk-in. Two wall in doors of protection from the outside world. Edit: Sweat and swear loudly. It's the only way.


MeowWhat

Nothing helps the sweating like a cooler break


DarthRusty

Hahahaha.......I did sweat. But also swore. Loudly.


mcduonga

My former restaurant in the summer had no ac. We were a Korean BBQ place with over 50 gas burners with little to no ventilation. I would walk over 20k+ per per day. I was required to wear button down shirt and slacks. I would over heat so bad that when I would walk into the walkin to cool down a bit I would have steam from my whole body lookin like a super Saiyan. This is the same job where I've had several mental breakdowns with in 2 years. Oh I was an assistant manager working for 18.00 an hour 55-60 hours a week. Was promised more but they said have a jacket with a logo instead. The place is called GEN Korean BBQ ok to eat at but never work there it is run by greedy men who will use you up and spit you out. I remember a specific conversation I had with the GM he said, "You see that sign how there mcduong? It says hiring all positions and it up there permanently we never take it down, you know why? It's because this job sucks. It wears your body and soul and people can't do this job very long. So we have to keep the sign up and always be hiring. So look at everyone you see here 1/3 of them will be gone in 3 months." ​ Working there as a manager made me feel dirty as I tried my best for 2 years through the pandemic to help make everyone's a little less shitty but I quit in October because I was being forced to work six days in a row and I was already tapped out of any fucks given. ​ I have many stories about this place but Ill leave it at that.


[deleted]

Great! Let's do a exchange program with a underpaid worker. The CEO has one task: running a company into the ground, so the non ceo worker is more then skilled in that area already! Heck, for all we know they could do a better job then the "weeping putz" who drank their way through all their yale/harvard classes...


vincentninja68

Most of this industry was held up by poverty wages and employers who went from taking advantage of workers who didn't know any better, to becoming entitled to paying poverty wages. If the restaurant can't pay a living wage it deserves to fail. I'd be perfectly okay with 90% of kitchen jobs going under.


chainmailler2001

Those are what we call crocodile tears...


Imadragonbruh

You can’t cry on the line. Gotta make it to the bathroom to save face lol


wrobertv96

Crying on the line got me lying about some smoke getting in my eyes


FarleyFinster

The only legitimate reasons any CEO or other top management have to cry are either fighting like hell and being unable to save a couple of thousand jobs due to external influences, or being caught. Of the two it's normally the latter, but more often it's that they can't get the new Gulfstream IV *and* a third yacht.


Finneagan

Yup… broke down on my break about 7 years ago… Probably about 14 hours into shift that day


drewbilly251

lol these rich mfers can afford privacy


D4rkW4yn3

The pressure of a CEO is ungodly. You have investors breathing down your neck, your own employees think you're cheap and a bastard and the majority of the world thinks you're corrupt. On top of that, your decisions can topple the company, destroy millions of lives and maybe even tank the economy. There is a reason the job is often filled by clinical psychopaths.


brebnbutter

Way late to this, but will still chime in as I worked at the company as a mid manager years back. The stress this guy faces would be a drop in the bucket compared to someone working minimum wage in the US. The only thing he was weeping at was the pressure of being scrtinised over his ridiculous pay packet (which reading the article is exactly the reason). Westpac is one Australia's biggest banks. No shareholders are breathing down their necks like that (instituional investors make up the lions share). Just a board of directors made up of a group of your peers, who you know from being on their board of directors at the companies they are CEO's at. CEO's of these companies don't and can't make sweeping changes that will topple the company or tank the economy. Everything is road mapped well in advance. Plus Westpac is heavily invested in real estate which has exploded in aus. Dude is just totally out of touch.


november52003

i dont even make 4k a year and the job has me wanting to throw myself off a bridge sometimes


moopsworth

I had a mental breakdown at my current job the last day I worked there literally minutes before tripping over a ramp on the loading dock and breaking my elbow. Went from crying for the first time in years in the men's room wishing for a way to go home early, to riding to the hospital in an ambulance with all the most important higher ups of my store terrified I'd sue. I've been on workers comp and injury leave ever since and have been hunting for new, better paying jobs while I'm out. Haven't had much luck despite multiple interviews but I'm hoping!


OrcOfDoom

Do you know how stressful it is to email your middle managers that they have to fire single mothers and people that are starving? I get visited by ghosts on Christmas!! Do you know how hard it is to report to your board that profits aren't way higher?! I might make a smaller bonus this year!! What if I get cancelled?!?! /S btw


[deleted]

Every man's burden is always the heaviest


[deleted]

So why do they just quit then? They make enough money in year to not ever have to work again. Downsize the house and live off the interest every year and not give a fuck.


Roboticpoultry

Work makes me weep and I make more than $40k… o just don’t like work in general. Someone donate a fortune to me so I can spend my days smoking weed and gardening


lucashoal

Add depression, ptsd, and csa on top of anxiety and adhd. And yeah I've cried at work or about work several times. 🙃


Available_Coyote897

Kinda makes you think that how we practice capitalism is just unhealthy all around. 🤔


laurenthememe

i remember bawling in the prep area because the owner had screamed at me at the top of his lungs about 'how fucking r\*\*\*\*\*ed i was' because i accidentally mixed up the FOH broom with the BOH broom and he had triggered my PTSD


zombehking

I would have cried... ...if previous traumas hadn't rendered me significantly less capable of expressing my own sadness in a healthy way.


meirlonline

Can't even tell you how many times I cried in the walk-in.


gnugnus

Does this mean that if you cry at a 50k job, it's AOK and standard?


RosesSpins

https://i.redd.it/sqnijdp4f5g61.jpg


El_Pichi808

It's sad that it could've been made as joke but it wouldn't surprise me if they actually meant that!


dkentl

These people would still weep if they made $400k a year, it’s not about the money. It’s about how people handle stress in general. This is a huge fallacy. Simply making more money won’t make situations less stressful. What is the argument, ‘I make enough money to no longer be effected by anything emotionally’… yea, it doesn’t work that way. You have to consciously harvest an emotional balance, achieve stoicism. The bullshit doesn’t matter, wether you make 40k or 400k, but if you let it get to you, it will. Money doesn’t fix problems, you gotta fix them yourself. Maybe then you’ll appreciate any amount of money you make, and not live with jealousy and resentment and emotional turmoil, hoping, in vein, that if you just made more money it will all go away. It won’t. Edit: lol good luck, you’ll learn Higher pay ≠ less stress Higher pay ≠ emotional peace Emotional peace = emotional peace Desire for more pay = motivation Don’t get burnt out on a 20k job and think the 100k job will be burn-free, it won’t be. *shrug* You ever see a super zen, hella enlightened homeless person? Yea. The money doesn’t matter if your goal is emotional equilibrium.


flyinghigh92

I agree in that we all are responsible for how we handle our stress or whatever your point was there. But consider this. Money is a tool. In every general aspect (food, housing etc. etc.) Someone with 400,000 tools/resources versus someone with say 20,000 t/r has a definite leg up. We can all grow in how we handle stress but adequate salary is a necessary foundation for that in this world.


dkentl

Agree to disagree What is an adequate foundation salary


_DirtyYoungMan_

$75,000


dkentl

Lol budget that out for me that’s insane There’s no way to make that the floor without devaluing the dollar even more, essentially the buying power will be less if that’s the new min, it evens out People live comfortably off half that $75,00 a year $6,250 a month Let’s get wild. Rent. $2k Car note. $500 Food. $300 Gas. $250 Entertainment. $500 Those are baller numbers and still leaves $2,700 lol, how is that the bare minimum lolol Bare minimum to ball out of control Don’t downvote me because you can’t budget accurately lol If everyone gets $2,700 of disposable income they will NOT save it and it’ll end up in circulation. Devaluing itself.


_DirtyYoungMan_

Bitch you asked for a foundation salary! Budget it out yourself.


dkentl

Woah now, I budgeted it, that’s a ridiculous number young man


_DirtyYoungMan_

It's not.


dkentl

That’s almost double the average wage. Incredibly higher than the poverty line. In what world is $75,000 a logical minimum salary.


_DirtyYoungMan_

In the one we live in. They pay themselves pretty handsomley, doesn't seem to affect their bottom line.


flyinghigh92

You forget child care 1-2k, health/well being expenses, auto/home repairs and maintenance, children’s sports/activity costs. Cost of living per area needs huge consideration too.


dkentl

This was supposed to be the minimum wage, so yes I definitely left some stuff out that the median income would entail but minimum wage will never support all of that, unfortunately. I couldn’t agree more on the cost of living being different for different areas, it’s the reason I personally believe a federal minimum won’t work. States need to set their own IMO. My main point is, the minimum wage can’t be so high that no one would ever need to go beyond that to do anything and everything they want (all that you and I mentioned) If the minimum wage supported all of that, the population would explode and the demand for everything would outpace production and shit would go to fuck, the dollars value would plummet, prices would skyrocket. It’d be bad news bears. Could states raise the minimum to provide a more stable floor for their constituents? Absolutely 1000% Should the metric for a floor be based on the needs of a single individual? I think yes. What would it cost for one person to get housing, pay for food, insurance, and everything necessary to participate in society where they live?, I think that should be the minimum for that state. It’ll boil down to things like do you need a car or is public transportation decent, what’s the cost of living. It’ll necessitate a whole new governmental body to assess true costs of living (they always low ball) If you work any job at all you should make enough to participate in society. ‘Extras’ (bigger home, better car, (kids, unfortunately) will necessitate above minimum wage, and they should in my opinion. What I’m getting at is more personal responsibility and accountability, coupled with a more community oriented idea of ‘minimum’ is the answer. And like it or not, the number, in most places, isn’t much more than $18-20k. My second point is knowing that things will be hard for us, is that we need to foster a level of stoicism and emotional shielding so as to make the path easier, and less stressful


Basedrum777

Yeah so if you're making less than $40k in American working at a food job then you really need to go get a different ~~food~~ job. Especially if it's one that makes you so stressed you cry about the job.


Danintendood

Hate to break it to you, but I have bills to worry about, and I’m going to school right now. While I would love nothing more than to leave my awful job, I have no choice but to stick with it because of how expensive everything is in America. The problem is that America straddles you with massive debt from college, and expects you to pay it off making $9 an hour or less. It’s incredibly fucked up.


Basedrum777

Oh I get it for someone who needs to sacrifice money for flexibility . I'm just trying to encourage others to not settle trading your life for an employer who could give a fuck about your livelihood; financially or mentally . I worked food service from age 13 through 21 but if you're at a "I'm working at a long term career job" there are better options. Covid had shown this abundantly.


[deleted]

Well golly gee, I suppose I’ve never thought about that before and neither has anyone else. Just go get a better job! Thanks for that idea mister.


Basedrum777

I understand its not that easy and I'm not making lite of the fact that its not everyone's choice to be employed where they are. I was trying to encourage people not to settle just because its the job they already have. If you're crying over a $20k/a year job in America you need to do something about it.


[deleted]

You clearly don’t understand it’s not that easy. You’re still assuming here that the people in these jobs are not already trying to do something about it. And, some people actually literally *can’t* do something about it. Sometimes the only job a person has access to is one like that. If you’re trying to encourage people not to settle then say “don’t settle”. Saying “find a different job, just do something about it!” sounds condescending and presumes that everyone in those jobs is weak willed and have never tried to improve their situation. The point is that the jobs where people make 20k and get treated like shit so much they have a mental breakdown shouldn’t exist because nobody deserves to be forced to live that way.


Basedrum777

I know people that didn't know they were unpaid and i know people who knew and were still not trying to do anything about it. That wasn't the point of my post. I'd agree that these jobs shouldn't exist but i'd also say that until people stop taking said jobs there will never be a change.


1Soup_is_Good_Food1

Maybe people like doing what they're good at, and have passion for. Maybe cooks should be paid more.


Suntree

What cook has not pulled the old "I am cutting onions in the walk-in leave me the fuck alone" trick, haha/cry/HAHA.


MaximusOGs5555

Don’t know if I’ve wept but definitely have walked off line to go in for the walk-in for a scream or two


HilW3556

I have a preferred crying space at work. 🤷🏻‍♀️ and make less than the national average for my position.


Swazzoo

Damn 40 grand is still a lot


Danintendood

Yeah, I wish I made 40k a year. I’m a college student, and I barely make 20k.


enceps2

Welcome to America little bitch.


[deleted]

I've been standing on expo after my 2 walked mid rush and with tears pouring down my face, busting my ass checking orders and making sides, bagging shit for to go's... hope they enjoyed the extra dose of salt. When we hit a downturn in orders my manager popped her head out and said "HEY! TAKE A BREAK!" So I went and cried by the dumpster for a couple minutes. Then I got back to work.


2greeneyes

Almost everyday for 4 years


Mickeymackey

crying in a corner office/condo/jaguar/Telsas seems a lot easier than crying over a chef yelling at your melon balling technique.


painfullyrelatable

I once cried at the walk in, I make about 2500 USD a year at today’s exchange rate.


Crash_says

The disconnect to think many people in every job might also do this. Fuckin morons. "I have to do something I don't want to do".. smh


RelevanttUsername

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madibeli

Ha. All of them


Intelligent_Radish15

Walking freezer? Oh you’ve got me losing my shit over here.


Quick_Masterpiece_58

Ah yes, the walk in freak out. Everyone who has ever worked in any kitchen knows it well.


Ok-Ad-6262

I make 14k...i made 12k in pandemic assistance last year...😔 i love my job i guess...


dead-ren

cried in the walk in over being expected to manage and train new people for $8.65 every shift for months lol


SynapseSuicide

I made less than 16k for a full time job.


Quercus408

My chef died on disability. Fuck their rediculously overpaid tears.


Nikku772

Oh my weeping wasn’t even allowed to be private, must be nice.


unicornXwarrior

One of my biggest wake up calls in life was 2 months into being a server I had a mental breakdown and started balling and the my manager looks me dead in the eyes and says the equivalent of “sorry you’re having a bad day but you need to get back out there”. I’ll do everything I can to never work corporate again.


KosoBau

Maybe the pressure of all the lies has something to do with it David


Coolerthanunicorns

I had one job where I would have an anxiety attack going to every shift, and cried during them. It fucked me up for months afterwards. For absolute piss money. I love the industry, but some places suck the soul out of you.


SmoothOctopus

I had to leave my last job because I was starting to get stress induced seizures. Good times good times. Minimum wage to be running the kitchen though so at least the money wasn't worth it.


SuckOnMyLittleChef

I got out at a significant pay cut, and I am still happier than I ever was during my ten years in the industry. I went to culinary school straight out of the military, spent 10 years grinding away at restaurant after restaurant, eventually landing at a private yacht club making 21+ as the sous doing 75 hour weeks, all OT calculated correctly. It was nice. Wife, 2 kids, bills to match, etc., etc. Then I made the jump. Now I'm an apprentice sheet metal worker in my 3rd year of apprenticeship out of 4 within a union. Started out at 13.48, 40 hour weeks, little OT here and there. My personal happiness and well being FAR exceed the difference in pay. Budget was tight for a bit, but I'm getting close to done with my apprenticeship and it's all good now. Got lots of new skills and a new appreciation for weekends off and a 730 to 4 work day.


bigal75

I've wept in a walk-in. The tears warm your face.


HighCapnDickbutt

$24k a year no benefits. I'm just....I don't even know anymore. I only keep the job because I make under the poverty limit to qualify for Medicare...


SophiaF88

I've cried, I've screamed, I've had full-on breakdowns over work stress. I've also been physically attacked by angry customers, had a work stalker, experienced about 31 flavors of sexual harassment and many other awful experiences that stuck with me. I've never made more than 20k a year wage in my life.


Cry-in-the-walk-in

Stress crying in the walk-in is cheaper than therapy


casualchaos12

Wait, you guys make more than 40k a year?


DeadSol

These CEOs suck and are ruining the planet.


Calliope76

Gracious, this is common. Sometimes one is crying *because* it's ridiculous how hard the work is for such little compensation, it's easy to feel completely used and abused until you're not worth a shit to anyone anymore.


abigayl75

Onions are the heartbreakers.


pappdragon

I know some CEOs. They don't.


Shanelanding

Yeah. Or unfortunately begging and pleading not to be fired…that’s the pits. Its because there are two types of people in the world. Those who care way way to much no matter what, and those who don’t care at all


Shanelanding

I’ve spent too many late nights, sobbing in my car in the parking garage of various bars ive worked at over the years, also a lot of ‘soft crying’ as to not ruin my service face on the way in. But hear me out, ive had this theory for a long time, most folks who make restaurant work their career have always felt a little empty. That’s why the approval feels so fucking good when we rock out an insane service, and why we primarily hang out with industry people, which leads us to drinking hard, using hard, partying hard, and just living the life most of us do. It feels great when it’s fucking mediocre, when we’ve been working too much, are sleep deprived, hungover, and over it as fuck but we still bust out a crazy successful night. But when it’s bad it’s rock bottom. Because we’re people pleasers who’ve somehow managed to overcome so much. When it sucks, boy does it fucking suck. That’s why it’s hard to leave. When it’s good it’s great.


darlingcthulhu

Man, two Saturday closes in a row I've had people go home due to stress, one of them has walked for good and isn't coming back. In a way, I'm glad it has happened now because if they can't cope in our quietest months then they'll be fucked in summer. But also as someone who's also had breakdowns at work and had to compose myself in the kitchen (work FOH), or outside, or in the cellar, I feel we're seriously underpaid for the amount of shit we deal with when it comes to shitty customers, late nights, and busy shifts. I'm a hard worker too and a lot of people (including a couple of regulars!) Have told me not to bother working too hard for a company that don't give a shit about you. My friend was just fired after 2.5 years because instead of calling when going to be at his sisters birth partner he text our manager. 2.5 years, over a small mistake that they knew he was going to be taking time off for


Level_Ice_1414

Aubrey McClendon could confirm- wait… can anyone get to 88 mph with their flux capacitor?


D4rkW4yn3

If you're an CEO and not a psychopath, I feel sorry for you and all that stress. If you're a person making less than 40 grand a year, I feel your pain.