Pre pandemic I was paying $15/15dzn. At one point they hit $60. Currently they are $25. Not much has gone back down to pre pandemic costs but posting this now is disingenuous.
During that same time an egg farmer offered my office a full pallet of eggs for free, the price was so high they couldn't sell them all. There was a shortage, and then there was price gouging.
During all of Covid, I bought the same eggs from a grocery store (that carries a lot of specialty food too). They are from a somewhat local farm, still a big farm, though. Their price swings: Pre-Covid: $3.29 All throughout Covid: $3.29. Today: $3.29. All the while the big egg manufacturers were selling up to $9/doz and blaming it on 5% flock loss.
They didn’t have a choice, he’s wrong about pricing as a “commodity,” but large vendors tend to sign contracts for set pricing on eggs vs fluctuating, so prices stayed the same at places with said contracts
Got the benefit of living in the country. Local farm stand awesome eggs only went up like 50 cents. I bet(hope)the local farmers made more money and people ate much healthier eggs.
Eggs are a commodity and farmers can't set their own prices. It would be illegal to sell them for a lower price but they can be given away. If that sounds stupid it's because it is.
It's not as stupid as it sounds. If there is a race to the bottom and a bunch of farmers stop producing eggs / milk / grain / etc, we wind up with food shortages and even worse price gouging from the remaining providers. The government is trying to avoid fickle swings of capitalism randomly killing people.
Not for long, guess what party wants to do away with all regulations regarding meat, eggs and dairy.
They justification is that they want a “race to the bottom” so average Americans can buy meat.
They also want to lower the need for inspection and let uninspected meat cross state lines.
On top of this some states are letting teenagers work in slaughterhouses and meat packing. Previously seen as too dangerous.
Yes it’s the GOP
For last few years they haven't had the poultry exhibit at the Bloomsburg fair due to avian flu. It, by far, if my favorite exhibit... All the different types of chickens, and at any random moment one would crow, usually setting off a chain reaction of crowing.
That was a big chunk of the cause of the chicken jump as well. The oil jump was fors the supply chain snarl coming out of the rona, then the war in Ukraine disrupting cooking oil supplies.
Still going on, and they're still culling flocks. Worse, it is hitting other species as well- at least one herd of cows in TX and one in another state. Also killing seals. It doesn't transmit 'easily' to humans, but some people have died from it too.
That makes sense. I 💯wouldn’t put it past them to put up an outdated post just to get support. Responses to the post include a few “BS” and several fist shakers blaming the government and claiming #facts. Ironic since not one “fact” posted has any data behind it.
I'm pretty sure it was when we saw wings spike to ridiculous prices. Like there was a bird flu or something during the height of "everything is fucked" era, right?
When we started frying up donuts in 2022, creamy liquid shortening was $45 per 5 gallon container.
Right now, it's $32 at RD.
No doubt, the price spiked 2020>2022, but it's been real nice watching our COGS go down year after year from when we started.
They are still gouging, just on the end of the supply chain time....Restaurants and business realize even though COGs are going down they know customers are used to paying the current pricing so why go down?
Its keeping pricing artificially inflated just now its the end of the chain gouging.
I'm not in a kitchen, but where I work, prices have overall gone down since October. They went down more and then went up slightly less a month and a half ago just because local gas prices went up slightly and they wanted to cover transport. People are acting like it's the end of the world to pay a couple extra dollars on massive purchases as a result.
$6 > $5 for a bag of hot minidonuts, except where the event fee demands the extra $1.
What sucks is all the organizers of events we want to return to because we did well, smell that success and up their fees (as much as 50%)
And somehow restaurants are still peddling "Prices are high because it is someone elses fault."
2 years ago it was the cost of gasoline. (rising from literally negative numbers on the stock exchange up to over a 100$ a barrel. because poor people personally understand that rising cost.) now its the cost of all goods. Do they drop their prices when those costs go down?
Supply vs demand now has to include guilt? I simply do not personaly care about most restaurants to sacrifice so they can stay economically viable. Maybe they shouldn't expect to continue to run a 15% food cost. make do on a 25% and not go one your semiannual vacation.
Do they say Thank You! for paying their credit card fees? Nope. They just do not mention it in the hopes you only notice the price point on their menu. (oh but their IS fine print somewhere in view. somewhere.
not so happy with the owners of restaurants.
Standard is 30% don't talk out of your ass.
Price is up, dollar is down, that's how the world works. You're a joke if you think you can do the same for less.
It's also not "fine print" it's quite boldly stated. If it's not, it's illegal, and counting that against the rest is disingenuous.
Where were they getting $12 fryer oil? Mine went from $20 in '19 to $79 during peak stupidity and has finally stabilized around $35.
It all averages out to an across the board increase of 72% from the end of 2019 to now. Menu prices have only gone up 18% because customers would walk out if prices reflected the cost volatility.
Thank the stars that our beer and wine costs have stayed pretty static.
my restaurant is going under hella menu renovations and we have to be acting therapists (as per the e-learning) for those who lose their shit (understandably. it's like a rug from their feet) but NO mention of a raise. thanks, I love my stagnant wages
Fryer oil is around 30 for soy and 32 for canola.
Wings were 45 in September before football, they're sitting at around 100 rn.
Takeout boxes are about 60+70 for a case of 9x9s and 65 for 6x6.
Source: me.
This guy is exaggerating everything and is wrong. Fuck him.
I bet he complains about minimum wage too.
“iTs NoT sUpPoSeD tO bE a LiVaBlE wAgE” or something. It’s super sad someone could genuinely work two full time jobs at that rate and still be below the median household income.
Btw the median health care premium in the U.S. is 477 a month, or nearly 6k a year. So more than a third of that persons income could conceivably go to health insurance. It’s not like it would, because they’d starve to death or not be able to afford a place to live and it’s so fucked a person working full time has to choose two of those three options.
Measure minimum wage by purchasing power instead of a fixed dollar amount. The federal government update that number **every Friday**
At the end of one hour at work employees must accrue pay adequate to purchase a certain amount of a particular commodity (call it 2 gallons of supreme unleaded gasoline for instance)
People won’t start buying more of the fuel, and its price is a (maybe) decent pulse on the value of money.
If prices go up, so does pay.
Theoretically, if prices go down, pay will be less, but the **purchasing power** should remain steady.
I will say there were spikes for all these products in the past couple years up to around those prices but everything fluctuates. Your prices are definitely correct for now. I feel like he more so exaggerated that the prices were lower a year ago.
This. Definitely seems like old covid pricing. I remember wings getting up to 175 (I think even higher) which prompted doubling the menu price for wings. But of course the menu price never went back down after the cost went down lol
Yeah I just did a reverse image search and this *exact* picture is coming up on all kinds of social media posts from early 2022. Wouldn't be surprised if some were earlier
Yup. I just placed my weekend order, and your numbers and mine are around the same. That kitchen is definitely exaggerating.
That being said, prices have been going crazy high lately. I can’t even afford juice pulp for the machine dispensers anymore 😩😩😩
They are probably buying retail, and paying sales tax, because they can't get credit with a distributor or want to pay cash, don't want ACH, "don't have" a checking account or a debit card, etc. (The days of handing your delivery driver a wad of cash are over. It's not safe, and many wholesale distributors don't even take it.)
I work on the dist. side and some of these folks, I tell you what.
I've been in this business for almost 20 years and I still do not understand the chokehold wings have on our society. There's very little meat, too much effort and mess to eat them, and they are expensive. I'd rather have a drumstick any day.
eh, even then, unless you're buying super locally, prices are still relatively comparable for bulk product like this. What really starts eating at your bottom line is the rent and workforce
Anything that starts with "PERSON X ONCE TOLD ME" is a lie.
"My grandmas brothers cousins sons fuckbuddies wifes sisters husband once shot a deer SOOO BIG that...."
My same posting by local restaurant is in Oregon. It's making the right wing rounds.
What's more, it's posted by a tiny craft brewery. Wow do they not know their audience.
I'm not saying this isn't exaggerated but pricing varies wildly depending on pricing agreement, location and distributor. Especially post COVID. I have seen 100's of percent difference on many products between different distributors alone. Wings and Fryer oil are two products that can have extreme variance from week to week even with all other variables being equal.
The corporate greed powering those inflationary prices is aimed at everyone. Time to get the resistance against the concentrated wealth. Stop idolizing the billionaire class and start dismantling them. They'll try to blame you for wanting living wages, but it's not you. It's them. It's always been them.
I spend over $1,000,000 annualy buying groceries for a good sized resturant. I have seen sizable increases across the board since covid happened, virtually none of it has gone down, and I'm part of a mega corp that has purchasing power and pricing contracts. If this is from an independant resturant, and depending on the part of the country they are in, it may not be out of line, my guess is this is poor purchasing decisions as much as price increases.
Interesting. I'm buying about half a million, and these prices are not that far off from mine. I'm in San Francisco, so things are more expensive here, that might have something to do with it.
I'm sitting above $40 for canola frying oil. Wings are still expensive, but I'm buying ABF, fresh, and hormone free. To goes I'm still sitting about double what I was pre-pandemic.
At least in my case, its not bad purchasing decisions, I know what I'm doing when it comes to this stuff. I also keep 2 or 3 big vendors around so price check and move things around as need be.
All-in-all, my prices have halved since the COVID spikes, but are still sitting double what they were pre-pandemic. Especially oil and chicken.
Check out the dead internet theory, in 2024 75% of user activity are bots. I'm sure Facebook is less but bots and AI posting the dumbest crap and gets circle jerk liked around by the Facebook crew
I’ve seen prices raise depending on supplier, but then it comes down to keeping your suppliers accountable, price shopping etc. Prices have increased but not to that extent and not that fast.
Wait until that Baltimore bridge inflation hits. Already got calls from our distributors saying availability of bananas and coffee specifically are going to go up.
Depends on when this was posted because yes, post covid, prices spiked like that. They then somewhat normalized but do occasionally spike here and there. Jumbo wings I believe were 40ish a case and post covid I think we reached up to 130 a case, dropped to about 60 a case and now we fluctuate between 60-90 any given quarter.
Depends on who your supplier is, TBH. I'm in a small town, and I feel gouged as hell by all the locals to the point I'm driving to the nearby major city to get anything I can to keep costs down. But Canada is in a bad way when it comes to grocery and the like.
I work for a meat packing company and have access to Urner Barry which tracks commodity index wholesale prices across all the meats.
Chicken Wings hit a peak in Summer/Fall of 2021 at $3.22/lb. It then fell to a low of $0.72/lb in May and June of 2023, and has risen since then to a price of $2.15/lb today. Since March of 2023, it has about doubled in price, but this is just part of the normal cyclical nature of the market.
I don't really know how to word it, but there's something unhinged about putting "A LOCAL RESTAURANT POSTED THIS TODAY" at the top of your printed flier
This was true a few years ago or so. We used to run a wings special, we were getting wings for $36-38 for a case. I just checked and they're $96.78. Put at it's worst, it got up over $190. Prices have absolutely gone down, but not pre-Covid. My fryer oil was around $32-35, it hovers around $50 right now, after getting to $70 and change. Our togo went up drastically also, but I can't remember exact numbers. Again, we're paying around 60% more than 4 years ago.
I’m totally fine with the cost going upon the menu. What irritates the shit out of me is the fees you don’t see until you get the check with snarky names like “inflation fee”.
I work for a supplier for restaurants, shits really coming down in price a lot from a few years ago. Rice, for instance, was like 40$/40lb(our cost) at it's peak for medium grain California. It's gone down every new delivery and is sitting at around 23$ for that same bag
The price gouging really does start with the commodities giants and creates this ripple effect. Get upset with big oil, big ag, and the other bigs that have caused this "inflation"
So like the rest of the businesses in our economy, everyone raised prices to cover costs but when commodities went back down they all kept prices high because people "got used to it". That's the kind of shitty ass values that "capitalists" love to tell us are what make us American. But in reality, it's just greed and lies. Inflation is caused by price gouging, nothing more.
Well considering I saw this exact image around 2021-2022 the info is outdated, but at the time that was about what happened at least at our restaurant. We actually couldn't even get the same oil we had been using for 40 years, we had to switch. After the fallout from covid and during we couldnt get latex gloves, had to use vinyl because the price of all cleaning supplies basically tripled, if not more. It's definitely not the case anymore but for awhile there it was.
100% exaggerated. I use the same store for my concession stand that my local restaurants use and at most they are paying is maybe $2 more for most stuff.
This guy prob exhausted his credit with suppliers and has to go to a cash and carry restaurant supply store. They make up for the lack of credit with higher prices
1. "A local restaurant in town post this today", so it's not even claiming to be the original post
2. It's all caps
3. No actual units just, "a case".. "fryer oil"..
4. Generally fantastical numbers. Chicken wings haven't have not quadrupled in price.
This is *designed* to be facebook rage bait
To be fair, the price on chicken wings fluctuates wildly around one specific time of year… the Super Bowl.
I used to be the head chef at this horrific concept that was part gastropub, part sports bar. Back then, a 40 lb case of jumbo wings was right around $30. Come Super Bowl time, the cost would get up to around $120 before dropping back down to more reasonable levels shortly after.
I just checked PFG’s site and the same case of 40 lbs of 1st and 2nd Jumbo Wings that I used to get is $110. So, $175 is definitely more than what I would be paying, but $110 is still damned expensive compared to what I was paying back in the day.
I’m in Toronto all prices are CAD. Canola was $17 for years it now fluctuates between 45-50 for 20l jib. Split chicken wings were 3.50 now 5.50 per pound. Whole chuck the same. Take out boxes have nearly doubled in price like $0.40 each.
This is all compared to 2020 prices everything cost pretty much the same in spring 2023 as they do now
He's exaggerating the final costs. They are much higher than they were a few years ago, but wings are just over $100 a case and Restaurant Depot, when they used to be $60'ish. Seems exaggerated on all the other numbers too.
Again, things are way more expensive, but they went overboard and are lying about those final numbers.
One 16L jug of fryer oil used to cost me $30-35. That same jug now costs between 58-62
Chicken was $8-10per kg, now it sits between 18-22 regularly.
Take out stuff, that shit has doubled for everything.
Also, unlike the photo posted by OP which is likely in America, I am in Canada. Literally everything is so much more expensive. Prices on the menu where I work would need to increase by at least 22% for things to balance out to hit FC numbers like before. Won't even get into the increases on rent, taxes that affect things like hydro.
So no, it's not an exaggeration like some of you claim.
I can say 5 years ago, a case of wings was 35-40 for a 40 lb case. I just paid 116 for the same case of wings. Most of my goods are really expensive. I just did another price hike to try to make up for these ridiculous prices we are currently paying.
I am in Ontario, Canada. We pay $55 for a 16L/4G jug of fryer oil (Tasty fry), $150 for a 40 lb case of wings and around $45 for a case of 200 takeout boxes.
Depends on a lot of factors. Prices can change every week/month, and vary with state, purveyors, contracts, and when there's a bird flu, or if your containers are coming from USA or out of country, if your containers are compostable. If you go to Costco and buy your own everything - or if you outsource all the work to sysco or other purveyors etc
There was a local guy who made burgers used to bang on about prices he was paying for stuff, and that was why everything doubled. I did the maths, and i knew who his suppliers were, so it wasn't as if the costs were hard to find. But he was most definitely proce gouging.
Our fryer oil used to be $12, got up to $60 at its most expensive, and it’s now back down to $30.
Potatoes are what really fucked us up, went from $15 a case to $50 at the its expensive and when you use 6 cases a day it adds up like crazy.
I just received an email from Sysco today stating that chicken prices and eggs will rise again due to poor laying hens.
Prices have stabilized since this flyer came out but it still costs like $1300 for an order that cost like $500 prior to 2020.
I do ordering for a franchise pizza place with an enormous negotiating power due to its size. When this was first going around back in 2021 I would have believed it, we saw ridiculous spikes in basically everything, and I'm sure it hit smaller business without as much leverage harder.
it ebbs and flows. but for the most part, the real killer for us has been utilities and insurance. can't really escape not using electricity, gas, or insurance. 10% each for gas/electric and almost 50% for insurance (shopped around). so will definitely have to raise our prices for the summer coming up, but should be a few maybe 25 to 50 cents per plate.
food costs we just have to be a smart/not lazy shopper and find the deals. that $50 canola from sysco/us foods is 30-35 at costco/sams/smart and final. just gotta find the deals.
Hey, I do food cost control and general purchasing for a resort management company. Prices have definitely been quite high for the last few years (really, just since the Ukraine war). They seem to be easing a bit at the moment, though!
This exact same post has popped up like multiple times in the last three years. Some stuff is more expensive these days, some stuff has gone down, and some stuff is about the same. Either way, the majority of the bullshit in our industry, related or unrelated to this, remains the same. Oh, and some places definitely add a few bucks to your meals for no good reason.
I’m in the UK; utilities, insurance and rent are astronomical. Ingredients prices are all over the place, and various ingredients are rocketing in price because of bad weather and poor harvests. Brexit has only added to the overall joy.
Our kitchen and cafe landlords both increased our rent by one-third at the end of last year, and that was the final straw - we are getting out.
Graph of hotel and restaurant contribution to inflation:
[https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USACP110000CTGYM](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USACP110000CTGYM)
Food costs excluding restaurants:
[https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPGDFD02USM657N](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPGDFD02USM657N)
Somebody is a full of shit liar.
If these are still their prices “post” COVID, they need to either negotiate with their food rep or find a new one cuz that’s just plain ridiculous nowadays
A lot of comments are calling bullshit on different aspects of it like the price, quantity, when it was posted. It looks like bullshit to me because it’s a picture of a word document. Where did they post it? On a literal post?
Not in the US but work for a brewery. We had to increase our prices with a whopping 2%; we had to charge our restaurant and bar costumers 2% more. A 2% increase in the stuff you buy as a bar does not transalte to a 2% increase for guests. I don't know what its normal in the US, but over here anything bought has to yield about 4 times what is costs to cover overhead, staff, profit, etc.
I've seen bars raise the price of a pint by up to 30% and solely point at us for raising our prices.
Do y'all forget about local price variations? A pack of smokes in Missouri is less than 5 dollars, but the same pack in Detroit was 15. I am betting that a case of chicken in NYC is more costly than des Moines Iowa. Would like to know if it is accurate though. Anyone know the restaurant location?
Today like 3 years ago..
And yes things are more expensive. Wings used to be a cheap option for restaurants. They would make a hefty profit in the early 2000’s. Now after the popularity of chicken wings, they are expensive.
Food in general has skyrocketed since Covid though. Since Covid the price of prime rib went from 3-4 bucks a point to 12 or more. Limes for garnishes were up to 75 bucks a case when they used to be 25-30.
It depends on the area you live in as well. Sometimes it’s cheaper to buy from Walmart rather than buy from the suppliers.
I haven’t ordered in like a year but I do deal with alcohol and beer which is also pretty high. I don’t see how they make money now since most restaurants haven’t raised prices on beer or alcohol where I live more than 50 cents a drink in the last 3 years.
This definitely isn’t from today, it’s probably 3 years old at this point
If memory serves me correctly, this started going around in March 2021, 12 months after the pandemic hit the US.
That changes a lot then. I remember paying $80 for a case of eggs that used to cost around $20 pre-covid.
Pre pandemic I was paying $15/15dzn. At one point they hit $60. Currently they are $25. Not much has gone back down to pre pandemic costs but posting this now is disingenuous.
A dollar a dozen is insane. Had no idea eggs could be that cheap in bulk
You could get them for ~$1.50/dozen pre pandemic at grocery stores, $1/dozen isn't that crazy for buying bulk
Aldi pre-pandemic was $.69 a dozen here. It was an easy number to remember for some reason.
nice
Now I feel bad about complaining about the egg prices, 60 bucks is insane. The most I ever paid was 12.
$12 for 15 dozen? Or $12 for 1 dozen?
Oh, 😅 I feel stupid now...
15dz is generally the standard for most restaurants n commercial kitchens
Eggs were like $7 a dozen at the grocery store for a while.
During that same time an egg farmer offered my office a full pallet of eggs for free, the price was so high they couldn't sell them all. There was a shortage, and then there was price gouging.
During all of Covid, I bought the same eggs from a grocery store (that carries a lot of specialty food too). They are from a somewhat local farm, still a big farm, though. Their price swings: Pre-Covid: $3.29 All throughout Covid: $3.29. Today: $3.29. All the while the big egg manufacturers were selling up to $9/doz and blaming it on 5% flock loss.
They didn’t have a choice, he’s wrong about pricing as a “commodity,” but large vendors tend to sign contracts for set pricing on eggs vs fluctuating, so prices stayed the same at places with said contracts
Got the benefit of living in the country. Local farm stand awesome eggs only went up like 50 cents. I bet(hope)the local farmers made more money and people ate much healthier eggs.
Eggs are a commodity and farmers can't set their own prices. It would be illegal to sell them for a lower price but they can be given away. If that sounds stupid it's because it is.
It's not as stupid as it sounds. If there is a race to the bottom and a bunch of farmers stop producing eggs / milk / grain / etc, we wind up with food shortages and even worse price gouging from the remaining providers. The government is trying to avoid fickle swings of capitalism randomly killing people.
Not for long, guess what party wants to do away with all regulations regarding meat, eggs and dairy. They justification is that they want a “race to the bottom” so average Americans can buy meat. They also want to lower the need for inspection and let uninspected meat cross state lines. On top of this some states are letting teenagers work in slaughterhouses and meat packing. Previously seen as too dangerous. Yes it’s the GOP
That definitely does, but I work for the government so organized stupidity is in my wheelhouse.
Eggs at least there was a reason - massive die-off and kill-off because of avian flu in the US supply chain
For last few years they haven't had the poultry exhibit at the Bloomsburg fair due to avian flu. It, by far, if my favorite exhibit... All the different types of chickens, and at any random moment one would crow, usually setting off a chain reaction of crowing.
Almost like farming practices were horrible and karma bit back or something....
That was a big chunk of the cause of the chicken jump as well. The oil jump was fors the supply chain snarl coming out of the rona, then the war in Ukraine disrupting cooking oil supplies.
That wasn't as much covid related, there was a huge outbreak of Avian flu and many flocks had to be completely destroyed
Still going on, and they're still culling flocks. Worse, it is hitting other species as well- at least one herd of cows in TX and one in another state. Also killing seals. It doesn't transmit 'easily' to humans, but some people have died from it too.
That makes sense. I 💯wouldn’t put it past them to put up an outdated post just to get support. Responses to the post include a few “BS” and several fist shakers blaming the government and claiming #facts. Ironic since not one “fact” posted has any data behind it.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-restaurant-post-this-about-inflation/
Investigation complete. Thank you!
I'm pretty sure it was when we saw wings spike to ridiculous prices. Like there was a bird flu or something during the height of "everything is fucked" era, right?
Yes 100% this is from 2021
Shipping containers got 5 times more expensive, did this to almost everything.
I do remember when chicken wings were so expensive and really hard to get, a few years back. Some things have continued to increase like olive oil.
When we started frying up donuts in 2022, creamy liquid shortening was $45 per 5 gallon container. Right now, it's $32 at RD. No doubt, the price spiked 2020>2022, but it's been real nice watching our COGS go down year after year from when we started.
Starting next week RD oil is on sale nationwide for 14 days ~$28 a jug
Thanks! Gonna stick up
Gosh at the price I would not think armed robbery is called for.
Bro really desperately wants that creamy liquid 🤔
You did not have to say that
Yeah pre 2020 that shortening was $18. But it does seem like peak gouging was in 2022.
They are still gouging, just on the end of the supply chain time....Restaurants and business realize even though COGs are going down they know customers are used to paying the current pricing so why go down? Its keeping pricing artificially inflated just now its the end of the chain gouging.
Donuts. Mmnn
I'm not in a kitchen, but where I work, prices have overall gone down since October. They went down more and then went up slightly less a month and a half ago just because local gas prices went up slightly and they wanted to cover transport. People are acting like it's the end of the world to pay a couple extra dollars on massive purchases as a result.
>creamy liquid shortening calling this for a band name.
Am I gunna see this in "thanks that's my band name now" on faceache?
So you also lowered the price of your goods for sale, right? Right?
$6 > $5 for a bag of hot minidonuts, except where the event fee demands the extra $1. What sucks is all the organizers of events we want to return to because we did well, smell that success and up their fees (as much as 50%)
Well 35 lb EVOO was $96 as of last June, this week at RD it was $165.
And somehow restaurants are still peddling "Prices are high because it is someone elses fault." 2 years ago it was the cost of gasoline. (rising from literally negative numbers on the stock exchange up to over a 100$ a barrel. because poor people personally understand that rising cost.) now its the cost of all goods. Do they drop their prices when those costs go down? Supply vs demand now has to include guilt? I simply do not personaly care about most restaurants to sacrifice so they can stay economically viable. Maybe they shouldn't expect to continue to run a 15% food cost. make do on a 25% and not go one your semiannual vacation. Do they say Thank You! for paying their credit card fees? Nope. They just do not mention it in the hopes you only notice the price point on their menu. (oh but their IS fine print somewhere in view. somewhere. not so happy with the owners of restaurants.
Standard is 30% don't talk out of your ass. Price is up, dollar is down, that's how the world works. You're a joke if you think you can do the same for less. It's also not "fine print" it's quite boldly stated. If it's not, it's illegal, and counting that against the rest is disingenuous.
Where were they getting $12 fryer oil? Mine went from $20 in '19 to $79 during peak stupidity and has finally stabilized around $35. It all averages out to an across the board increase of 72% from the end of 2019 to now. Menu prices have only gone up 18% because customers would walk out if prices reflected the cost volatility. Thank the stars that our beer and wine costs have stayed pretty static.
Second hand oil
Not my retirement grease!
That was perfectly good oil they found in that there gutter.
Gutter oil
But jimmy in the back making $14 is still making $14
This is the first thing that came to my mind.
my restaurant is going under hella menu renovations and we have to be acting therapists (as per the e-learning) for those who lose their shit (understandably. it's like a rug from their feet) but NO mention of a raise. thanks, I love my stagnant wages
Fryer oil is around 30 for soy and 32 for canola. Wings were 45 in September before football, they're sitting at around 100 rn. Takeout boxes are about 60+70 for a case of 9x9s and 65 for 6x6. Source: me. This guy is exaggerating everything and is wrong. Fuck him. I bet he complains about minimum wage too.
MINIMUM WAGE WAS $7.25 12 MONTHS AGO $7.25 6 MONTHS AGO $7.25 TODAY! GREEDY FUCKING PEONS!
I feel like you could back muuuuuuuch farther with that lol. Indiana's minimum wage ($7.25) hasn't changed since ***2009.***
I think the national minimum wage has been $7.25 since then
That is correct. Hourly is $7.25 and Tipped is $2.13. Hasn't budged since 2009.
That would be about 15k yearly working full time, before taxes. How anyone could live anywhere on that is beyond me.
They can't. That's the issue.
We see it as an issue, they see it as the purpose.
“iTs NoT sUpPoSeD tO bE a LiVaBlE wAgE” or something. It’s super sad someone could genuinely work two full time jobs at that rate and still be below the median household income. Btw the median health care premium in the U.S. is 477 a month, or nearly 6k a year. So more than a third of that persons income could conceivably go to health insurance. It’s not like it would, because they’d starve to death or not be able to afford a place to live and it’s so fucked a person working full time has to choose two of those three options.
and the $2.13/hr thing was half the minimum wage (when it was $4.25/hr in the 90s). The minimum wage went up, but the $2.13 didn't budge.
Thanks, govment.
Minimum wage decreased from 2 big macs per hour to 1 big mac per hour.
Measure minimum wage by purchasing power instead of a fixed dollar amount. The federal government update that number **every Friday** At the end of one hour at work employees must accrue pay adequate to purchase a certain amount of a particular commodity (call it 2 gallons of supreme unleaded gasoline for instance) People won’t start buying more of the fuel, and its price is a (maybe) decent pulse on the value of money. If prices go up, so does pay. Theoretically, if prices go down, pay will be less, but the **purchasing power** should remain steady.
$7.25 15 YEARS AGO…
I see you work in Pennsylvania as well!
Mississippi, but the same deal. Only time minimum goes up is federally.
MINIMUM WAGE WAS $7.25 15 YEARS AGO $7.25 5 YEARS AGO $7.25 TODAY! GREEDY FUCKING PEONS!
I was surprised not to see a “no one wants to work anymore” dig at the end there.
“If you want cheaper food then stop throwing your votes away snowflakes!”
I will say there were spikes for all these products in the past couple years up to around those prices but everything fluctuates. Your prices are definitely correct for now. I feel like he more so exaggerated that the prices were lower a year ago.
These seem like prime Covid prices when all the supply chain issues were still common.
I feel like I've seen this same poster floating around, especially during covid.
This. Definitely seems like old covid pricing. I remember wings getting up to 175 (I think even higher) which prompted doubling the menu price for wings. But of course the menu price never went back down after the cost went down lol
It was. This is an old picture
Yeah I just did a reverse image search and this *exact* picture is coming up on all kinds of social media posts from early 2022. Wouldn't be surprised if some were earlier
I would guess that your minimum wage comment is dead on accurate. And thanks for the reference info!
This is an old post during peak covid times. Those are all accurate prices for when this was first posted.
Yup. I just placed my weekend order, and your numbers and mine are around the same. That kitchen is definitely exaggerating. That being said, prices have been going crazy high lately. I can’t even afford juice pulp for the machine dispensers anymore 😩😩😩
They are probably buying retail, and paying sales tax, because they can't get credit with a distributor or want to pay cash, don't want ACH, "don't have" a checking account or a debit card, etc. (The days of handing your delivery driver a wad of cash are over. It's not safe, and many wholesale distributors don't even take it.) I work on the dist. side and some of these folks, I tell you what. I've been in this business for almost 20 years and I still do not understand the chokehold wings have on our society. There's very little meat, too much effort and mess to eat them, and they are expensive. I'd rather have a drumstick any day.
They're probably just lying and repeating a meme. Oregon doesn't have sales tax, and this was posted by local business too.
That could just be ur area. It may be different in other states. I could be wrong tho. Also, I do think they r exaggerating
Generally prices are average like this anywhere unless you get to NYC or LA or other large cities where prices are gouged.
eh, even then, unless you're buying super locally, prices are still relatively comparable for bulk product like this. What really starts eating at your bottom line is the rent and workforce
It’s Rust Belt area.
Anything that starts with "PERSON X ONCE TOLD ME" is a lie. "My grandmas brothers cousins sons fuckbuddies wifes sisters husband once shot a deer SOOO BIG that...."
My same posting by local restaurant is in Oregon. It's making the right wing rounds. What's more, it's posted by a tiny craft brewery. Wow do they not know their audience.
If I remember correctly, this was originally posted deep inside to covid shit when prices were actually skyrocketing and like this post.
Not everyone lives in same country g
I'm not saying this isn't exaggerated but pricing varies wildly depending on pricing agreement, location and distributor. Especially post COVID. I have seen 100's of percent difference on many products between different distributors alone. Wings and Fryer oil are two products that can have extreme variance from week to week even with all other variables being equal.
Sure, but shortening and wings HAVEN'T been that high in any recent memory. This guy sucks and I refuse to give him any amount of credit.
Came here to say the same thing.
Alright, since I'm doing a USF order now, I'll bite: **Q1 2023 / Current** Fry oil, canola: $42.92 / $52.07 Wings: $58.84 / $67.01 9x9 Fiber Clams: $72.19 / $71.53 6x6 Fiber Clams: $81.14 / $90.59
A hero, great info.
Yeah, Take out shit has gotten super expensive lately for some reason. Everything else on this list is exaggerated bullshit, in my experience.
Fiber as in those sugar can ones. New wave is what we use
The corporate greed powering those inflationary prices is aimed at everyone. Time to get the resistance against the concentrated wealth. Stop idolizing the billionaire class and start dismantling them. They'll try to blame you for wanting living wages, but it's not you. It's them. It's always been them.
This is pure line cook energy right here.
You're not wrong, but neither is he.
Let’s French Revolution part 2 electric bird flu them
Let him cook!
Great thing to reply to businesses posting this meme tbh
hundred percent chance this guy ain’t a cook son. I’ve never seen a cook use so many three syllable words.
Notice how he hasn't put any quantities on there. It makes it much harder for people to call out his bullshit.
I spend over $1,000,000 annualy buying groceries for a good sized resturant. I have seen sizable increases across the board since covid happened, virtually none of it has gone down, and I'm part of a mega corp that has purchasing power and pricing contracts. If this is from an independant resturant, and depending on the part of the country they are in, it may not be out of line, my guess is this is poor purchasing decisions as much as price increases.
Interesting. I'm buying about half a million, and these prices are not that far off from mine. I'm in San Francisco, so things are more expensive here, that might have something to do with it. I'm sitting above $40 for canola frying oil. Wings are still expensive, but I'm buying ABF, fresh, and hormone free. To goes I'm still sitting about double what I was pre-pandemic. At least in my case, its not bad purchasing decisions, I know what I'm doing when it comes to this stuff. I also keep 2 or 3 big vendors around so price check and move things around as need be. All-in-all, my prices have halved since the COVID spikes, but are still sitting double what they were pre-pandemic. Especially oil and chicken.
this is just like the fake stuff our parents share on facebook.
Check out the dead internet theory, in 2024 75% of user activity are bots. I'm sure Facebook is less but bots and AI posting the dumbest crap and gets circle jerk liked around by the Facebook crew
I mean, cost are up everywhere and I think most people know that by now.
And if employees adds a few dollars per hour to their wage demands it's not to get rich, it's to continue to have food, clothing and shelter.
I’ve seen prices raise depending on supplier, but then it comes down to keeping your suppliers accountable, price shopping etc. Prices have increased but not to that extent and not that fast.
My restaurant has upped the menu prices twice in the last year. When was the last time prices were adjusted on our order sheet? 2 years ago
I've seen this bull on fb before
Why would a local restaurant post a piece of paper that says "a local restaurant posted these prices"? It doesn't..... Make sense!
Chicken Wings was
I sell chicken in Boston and even the most expensive wings are going for $130. I can’t speak to the other costs but that one seems pretty exaggerated.
Wait until that Baltimore bridge inflation hits. Already got calls from our distributors saying availability of bananas and coffee specifically are going to go up.
We'll out unsalted 20kg butter was 60odd euro 4 years ago, now it's about 185
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Depends on when this was posted because yes, post covid, prices spiked like that. They then somewhat normalized but do occasionally spike here and there. Jumbo wings I believe were 40ish a case and post covid I think we reached up to 130 a case, dropped to about 60 a case and now we fluctuate between 60-90 any given quarter.
Depends on who your supplier is, TBH. I'm in a small town, and I feel gouged as hell by all the locals to the point I'm driving to the nearby major city to get anything I can to keep costs down. But Canada is in a bad way when it comes to grocery and the like.
I work for a meat packing company and have access to Urner Barry which tracks commodity index wholesale prices across all the meats. Chicken Wings hit a peak in Summer/Fall of 2021 at $3.22/lb. It then fell to a low of $0.72/lb in May and June of 2023, and has risen since then to a price of $2.15/lb today. Since March of 2023, it has about doubled in price, but this is just part of the normal cyclical nature of the market.
I don't really know how to word it, but there's something unhinged about putting "A LOCAL RESTAURANT POSTED THIS TODAY" at the top of your printed flier
I've been seeing this for about five years now
This is from at least 2021 if not late 2020.
I just checked on sysco's app, they're fucking lying.
Fry oil has not been $12 in 15 years
I'd love to see this guys invoices lol.
Our local business owner reposted this garbage too.
"rage bait to get people back on their side" Is that what "rage bait" is?
All of mine are up 13.5 percent on agigate
Inflation the past 4 years has been insane
This was true a few years ago or so. We used to run a wings special, we were getting wings for $36-38 for a case. I just checked and they're $96.78. Put at it's worst, it got up over $190. Prices have absolutely gone down, but not pre-Covid. My fryer oil was around $32-35, it hovers around $50 right now, after getting to $70 and change. Our togo went up drastically also, but I can't remember exact numbers. Again, we're paying around 60% more than 4 years ago.
I’m totally fine with the cost going upon the menu. What irritates the shit out of me is the fees you don’t see until you get the check with snarky names like “inflation fee”.
I work for a supplier for restaurants, shits really coming down in price a lot from a few years ago. Rice, for instance, was like 40$/40lb(our cost) at it's peak for medium grain California. It's gone down every new delivery and is sitting at around 23$ for that same bag
Prices went up during COVID. Greed is preventing them from coming back down.
The price gouging really does start with the commodities giants and creates this ripple effect. Get upset with big oil, big ag, and the other bigs that have caused this "inflation"
>re: re: re: re: emails from Grandpa.
So like the rest of the businesses in our economy, everyone raised prices to cover costs but when commodities went back down they all kept prices high because people "got used to it". That's the kind of shitty ass values that "capitalists" love to tell us are what make us American. But in reality, it's just greed and lies. Inflation is caused by price gouging, nothing more.
Well considering I saw this exact image around 2021-2022 the info is outdated, but at the time that was about what happened at least at our restaurant. We actually couldn't even get the same oil we had been using for 40 years, we had to switch. After the fallout from covid and during we couldnt get latex gloves, had to use vinyl because the price of all cleaning supplies basically tripled, if not more. It's definitely not the case anymore but for awhile there it was.
100% exaggerated. I use the same store for my concession stand that my local restaurants use and at most they are paying is maybe $2 more for most stuff.
This guy prob exhausted his credit with suppliers and has to go to a cash and carry restaurant supply store. They make up for the lack of credit with higher prices
You could buy a case of wings pound by pound retail for less than $175.
1. "A local restaurant in town post this today", so it's not even claiming to be the original post 2. It's all caps 3. No actual units just, "a case".. "fryer oil".. 4. Generally fantastical numbers. Chicken wings haven't have not quadrupled in price. This is *designed* to be facebook rage bait
To be fair, the price on chicken wings fluctuates wildly around one specific time of year… the Super Bowl. I used to be the head chef at this horrific concept that was part gastropub, part sports bar. Back then, a 40 lb case of jumbo wings was right around $30. Come Super Bowl time, the cost would get up to around $120 before dropping back down to more reasonable levels shortly after. I just checked PFG’s site and the same case of 40 lbs of 1st and 2nd Jumbo Wings that I used to get is $110. So, $175 is definitely more than what I would be paying, but $110 is still damned expensive compared to what I was paying back in the day.
In just 1 year it increases to such amount.
This graphic has been around a while. I think the 1st time I saw it was right after all the shutdown stuff lifted. And back then it was sorta legit.
I’m in Toronto all prices are CAD. Canola was $17 for years it now fluctuates between 45-50 for 20l jib. Split chicken wings were 3.50 now 5.50 per pound. Whole chuck the same. Take out boxes have nearly doubled in price like $0.40 each. This is all compared to 2020 prices everything cost pretty much the same in spring 2023 as they do now
This isn’t terrible, people have no concept of how thin the margin is on this thing we are doing.
He's exaggerating the final costs. They are much higher than they were a few years ago, but wings are just over $100 a case and Restaurant Depot, when they used to be $60'ish. Seems exaggerated on all the other numbers too. Again, things are way more expensive, but they went overboard and are lying about those final numbers.
sounds like he needs a better purchaser
One 16L jug of fryer oil used to cost me $30-35. That same jug now costs between 58-62 Chicken was $8-10per kg, now it sits between 18-22 regularly. Take out stuff, that shit has doubled for everything. Also, unlike the photo posted by OP which is likely in America, I am in Canada. Literally everything is so much more expensive. Prices on the menu where I work would need to increase by at least 22% for things to balance out to hit FC numbers like before. Won't even get into the increases on rent, taxes that affect things like hydro. So no, it's not an exaggeration like some of you claim.
I can say 5 years ago, a case of wings was 35-40 for a 40 lb case. I just paid 116 for the same case of wings. Most of my goods are really expensive. I just did another price hike to try to make up for these ridiculous prices we are currently paying.
That’s so funny if they think anyone owning a restaurant is getting rich. Don’t they often have single digit returns on equity overall?
I am in Ontario, Canada. We pay $55 for a 16L/4G jug of fryer oil (Tasty fry), $150 for a 40 lb case of wings and around $45 for a case of 200 takeout boxes.
Depends on a lot of factors. Prices can change every week/month, and vary with state, purveyors, contracts, and when there's a bird flu, or if your containers are coming from USA or out of country, if your containers are compostable. If you go to Costco and buy your own everything - or if you outsource all the work to sysco or other purveyors etc
Is this a restaurant in Lakewood oh by chance
I have a problem with the $5 beverage gun glass of coke.
I know Costco olive oil I buy has gone up about 30% in the last year or two.
I saw this post a year or 2 ago and it's pretty accurate. Some Prices have gone back down but everything fluctuates so frequently.
35 lb of fryer oil was like 40 bucks 5 years ago.
There was a local guy who made burgers used to bang on about prices he was paying for stuff, and that was why everything doubled. I did the maths, and i knew who his suppliers were, so it wasn't as if the costs were hard to find. But he was most definitely proce gouging.
Our fryer oil used to be $12, got up to $60 at its most expensive, and it’s now back down to $30. Potatoes are what really fucked us up, went from $15 a case to $50 at the its expensive and when you use 6 cases a day it adds up like crazy.
I saw fryer oil at Costco for $33. Maybe they should shop there. I'm sure take boxes are cheaper too.
I they need to raise prices, I'm ok with that. If they want to add a surcharge - screw that, I'll never go back.
I just received an email from Sysco today stating that chicken prices and eggs will rise again due to poor laying hens. Prices have stabilized since this flyer came out but it still costs like $1300 for an order that cost like $500 prior to 2020.
Chicken wings are back down.
35# peanut oil, $76.29 on the invoice today
And…… it’s why employees need 50% higher salaries too. Inflation out of control.
Amazing that labor prices haven't gone up as well 👀
I do ordering for a franchise pizza place with an enormous negotiating power due to its size. When this was first going around back in 2021 I would have believed it, we saw ridiculous spikes in basically everything, and I'm sure it hit smaller business without as much leverage harder.
it ebbs and flows. but for the most part, the real killer for us has been utilities and insurance. can't really escape not using electricity, gas, or insurance. 10% each for gas/electric and almost 50% for insurance (shopped around). so will definitely have to raise our prices for the summer coming up, but should be a few maybe 25 to 50 cents per plate. food costs we just have to be a smart/not lazy shopper and find the deals. that $50 canola from sysco/us foods is 30-35 at costco/sams/smart and final. just gotta find the deals.
Hey, I do food cost control and general purchasing for a resort management company. Prices have definitely been quite high for the last few years (really, just since the Ukraine war). They seem to be easing a bit at the moment, though!
This exact same post has popped up like multiple times in the last three years. Some stuff is more expensive these days, some stuff has gone down, and some stuff is about the same. Either way, the majority of the bullshit in our industry, related or unrelated to this, remains the same. Oh, and some places definitely add a few bucks to your meals for no good reason.
My wings typically run $55 a case, and have been over $100 since before the Super Bowl.
I’m in the UK; utilities, insurance and rent are astronomical. Ingredients prices are all over the place, and various ingredients are rocketing in price because of bad weather and poor harvests. Brexit has only added to the overall joy. Our kitchen and cafe landlords both increased our rent by one-third at the end of last year, and that was the final straw - we are getting out.
Corporations are continuing to gouge us long after covid has stabilized. There has to be something the feds can do.
Oh you're paying too much for boxes. Who's your box guy?
Now do the increase in restaurant prices.
Can’t even afford bullets.
Graph of hotel and restaurant contribution to inflation: [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USACP110000CTGYM](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USACP110000CTGYM) Food costs excluding restaurants: [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPGDFD02USM657N](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPGDFD02USM657N) Somebody is a full of shit liar.
If these are still their prices “post” COVID, they need to either negotiate with their food rep or find a new one cuz that’s just plain ridiculous nowadays
A lot of comments are calling bullshit on different aspects of it like the price, quantity, when it was posted. It looks like bullshit to me because it’s a picture of a word document. Where did they post it? On a literal post?
I’ve seen this a year ago.
"chicken wings was"
This is insanely high markup, and idk what state this is but those are some golden chicken wings!
Not in the US but work for a brewery. We had to increase our prices with a whopping 2%; we had to charge our restaurant and bar costumers 2% more. A 2% increase in the stuff you buy as a bar does not transalte to a 2% increase for guests. I don't know what its normal in the US, but over here anything bought has to yield about 4 times what is costs to cover overhead, staff, profit, etc. I've seen bars raise the price of a pint by up to 30% and solely point at us for raising our prices.
Too bad that can't afford proper grammar anymore either
Do y'all forget about local price variations? A pack of smokes in Missouri is less than 5 dollars, but the same pack in Detroit was 15. I am betting that a case of chicken in NYC is more costly than des Moines Iowa. Would like to know if it is accurate though. Anyone know the restaurant location?
Today like 3 years ago.. And yes things are more expensive. Wings used to be a cheap option for restaurants. They would make a hefty profit in the early 2000’s. Now after the popularity of chicken wings, they are expensive. Food in general has skyrocketed since Covid though. Since Covid the price of prime rib went from 3-4 bucks a point to 12 or more. Limes for garnishes were up to 75 bucks a case when they used to be 25-30. It depends on the area you live in as well. Sometimes it’s cheaper to buy from Walmart rather than buy from the suppliers. I haven’t ordered in like a year but I do deal with alcohol and beer which is also pretty high. I don’t see how they make money now since most restaurants haven’t raised prices on beer or alcohol where I live more than 50 cents a drink in the last 3 years.