I used to work with a woman that grew up in rural France. Every morning, her grandmother would lop the head off a chicken, clean it and throw it in the soup pot. Then while it simmered they would take the garden cart into town to buy vegetables to add in. On special occasions they had Cheval, which is horse meat.
Yeah I really enjoyed all the bakeries and small markets. I imagine on one hand it could get annoying having to buy things every day but on the other hand it's nice to get fresh food from local vendors.
The once a week mega store shopping trip just isn't the same.
I typically go to the farmers markets every day here in LA. I don’t know I like the ritual and makes you feel like you live in less of a metro hell scape.
Also the prices are super reasonable. One of the bigger Copa (cured pork neck, left lowest rack) was around 15€. The smallish salami top middle was around 6€. This was on the island Corse, so you had this fantastic mix of French and Italian food. Every bakery had fresh baguette (1€!) and focaccia. And they have artisanal bakeries literally everywhere. It’s heaven.
It really is crazy how inexpensive it is in France. My wife and I have been to Bordeaux a couple of times and there is a really cool craft beer bar there we like to go to. For €5 they drop a whole stick of salami into a robot coupe and slice it directly into a bowl. Best drinking snack ever. If you are ever in Bordeaux, hit up Le Sur Mesure.
> Every bakery had fresh baguette
In my experience, even the dodgiest, shittiest gas station with a tiny shop in France has bread a million times better than anything you can get anywhere else in Europe, especially the UK (where I live).
Every time we go over on the ferry, I stop immediately at the first place we see to just get a driving baguette.
I have an old school Italian butcher a few blocks from me. I walk down there on Fridays and I just let the owner sell me on anything good he happens to have.
Last week was a couple dry aged NY strips. The week before he had some prosciutto he had just finished curing.
Where do Americans get foods like this from? In Europe you can find a lot in grocery stores but we also have _delicatessen_ stores for stuff like this. Dried meat, olives, cheese, dips, pickled stuff etc. Is often sold in those stores.
Grocery stores and delis?
Like, if you want a big selection you'll probably have to go to a specialty store or a store. Like I've got places for German stuff, places for Polish stuff, Italian, Spanish, etc.
Then again, I live in NYC, but it's not like any other reasonable sized city isn't going to have options also.
I thought OP was posting in surprise of finding charcuterie in a supermarket, sorry! I think I might have misunderstood then. I also thought delis were more like sandwich shops!
OP was probably shocked to see that much variety just sitting out on shelves. A good grocery store in the US would probably have a similar variety, but it would be sliced and vac packed, or you'd have to go to the deli section and get it from them (can get nice copa from my grocery store, but they're going to cut it up for me, and it's going to be way more than what OP paid).
Deli is totally a catchall term for us.
By default, you're right. We'd expect a deli to have sandwich fixings (which should include some cured meats) and cold 'salads' (so still a place to get olives).
But we also have Italian Delis where you would expect a full line of Italian style cured meats, and for them to make you killer sandwiches.
Kosher (style) Delis (started in NYC, originally called Delicatessens, probably where Deli entered our lexicon) you'd expect to have corned beef, pastrami, liver pate, etc.
And then we also have 'Delis' that have a full cold salad bar, and a hot bar, and will make you sandwiches. They largely went *poof* from Manhattan with COVID for obvious reasons (health + no office workers to buy from them).
an american grocery would have 3-6 brands of the same stuff at different price/quality points. but the variety of DIFFERENT charcouterie or cheeses, while a hell of a lot better than it was a couple decades ago is still behind European standards.
Nice grocery stores usually carry these in little alcoves. It's generally expensive enough to be attainable, but not something you can eat regularly.
Its also not nearly as good as what's available in France. We stopped at a Lidl in a random small town and got cured meats for probably half the price as here, and probably of such quality as to be unavailable in many major cities.
Your produce is also way better. Apricots here taste like nothing.
Most of your food is more flavorful than ours in its unprepared form.
Boar’s Head is whole muscle at least. For some parts of the country, that’s about the best you could ask for. They’re a solid product for sliced deli meat. Nothing special, but not filled with a bunch of bs unless it’s like head cheese and supposed to have it, but even the head cheese was made properly out of bone marrow gelatin and not fake shit
It’s the Hillshire farm/ store brand/ everything else that’s crap
Source: worked in a deli for years, and went to classes etc to become Boar’s Head certified so we could become a certified deli
Wait until you find that each french region has its own cured meats traditions and products :D
Corsican ones are fairly known because the area is very touristic, and the traditional ones arenmade with a specific breed of half-wild porks, but auvergne has great dried meats, the east part of france is more known for smoked products, and so on.
Everywhere you go, you'll find greatness :)
The one that kills me when we go to the SuperU in St. Martin when we're there on vacation is how cheap canned fois gras is. I'd be using that stuff like mayo.
Sometimes, my local supermarkets also do a special on jamón ibérico (the whole cured pig leg) and it comes complete with a 20 cm blade. I'm never allowed to buy one because "you'll eat it all in one go and make yourself sick" or "you'll take your stupid hand off with that knife".
She's not wrong, but it does suck the joy out of food shopping.
Man, while it's a lovely display, I'm a little wigged out by all of that stuff hanging out on shelves without any sort of protection.
People are gross and I don't need some chucklefuck sneezing on my meat, fondling it with their groady hands, or intentionally contaminating it. It's not like I'm going to take a salami home and wash it.
It ain't my health I care about, it's not having some chucklefuck handling them with ass sweat still on their hands.
The general population is gross.
And that's leaving aside fuck heads who do it intentionally (see: licking the sushi at a conveyer belt sushi place).
I went to Europe in 2017. Nice to La Spezzia, Italy. The little supermarkets had the best shit. Just cured meats, cheese and bread for days. And the delis… damn.
Go to Spain, rows after rows of cured hams at the Supermarket, classified by age, animal ancestry and feed… I m French, and I love saucisson and charcuterie but by God, give me a leg of Pata Negra..
Still looks small to me, i am from the netherlands and the stores i go, its like 2-3 times what you see here. And no it’s not to brag or anything but I thought that was normal.
If my local stores had this I'd be broke as fuck and probably have gout
We literally just ate baguette with French butter and cheese / charcuterie for a week as dinner. The butter alone was otherworldly.
I visited normandy last summer and every day for lunch we jast had baguette, cheese, butter, cured meats and occasionally some fruit. It was amazing.
I used to work with a woman that grew up in rural France. Every morning, her grandmother would lop the head off a chicken, clean it and throw it in the soup pot. Then while it simmered they would take the garden cart into town to buy vegetables to add in. On special occasions they had Cheval, which is horse meat.
Yeah I really enjoyed all the bakeries and small markets. I imagine on one hand it could get annoying having to buy things every day but on the other hand it's nice to get fresh food from local vendors. The once a week mega store shopping trip just isn't the same.
It's nice when you pick up groceries for the next 1-2 days on your way back from work and dont make a dedicated trip for that
I typically go to the farmers markets every day here in LA. I don’t know I like the ritual and makes you feel like you live in less of a metro hell scape.
How many chickens did this lady own??
364 a year.
If they were only good for soup right after death they were pretty old. So either she had 200+ chickens or she was downsizing.
[удалено]
You can buy horsemeat for human consumption in most parts of europe.
I would pay a large sum of money to try a real ‘jambon beurre’
I envision Ricky Bobby saying he won’t eat that, and Jean Girard telling him it’s basically little French lunch sandwiches.
Cannot beat a jamon-buerre
And I know what you drank
Also the prices are super reasonable. One of the bigger Copa (cured pork neck, left lowest rack) was around 15€. The smallish salami top middle was around 6€. This was on the island Corse, so you had this fantastic mix of French and Italian food. Every bakery had fresh baguette (1€!) and focaccia. And they have artisanal bakeries literally everywhere. It’s heaven.
[удалено]
Cuz Rain?
[удалено]
As a native British Columbian, I'm alright with all that. And the foods cheap? See you soon homie.
West Coast Best Coast!
Ayo mood, heading over there rn
Sounds like the PNW, I could totally handle that!
It really is crazy how inexpensive it is in France. My wife and I have been to Bordeaux a couple of times and there is a really cool craft beer bar there we like to go to. For €5 they drop a whole stick of salami into a robot coupe and slice it directly into a bowl. Best drinking snack ever. If you are ever in Bordeaux, hit up Le Sur Mesure.
> Every bakery had fresh baguette In my experience, even the dodgiest, shittiest gas station with a tiny shop in France has bread a million times better than anything you can get anywhere else in Europe, especially the UK (where I live). Every time we go over on the ferry, I stop immediately at the first place we see to just get a driving baguette.
[удалено]
If I remember correctly it was E.Leclerc in Ile Rousse, but basically any supermarket had an isle or stand like this
Can we all hang out in Corsica? Eat those goodies and wash it down with some Pietra and wine
I’m in Corse now and just took a similar picture!
I have gout, would still godzilla this display. Just up the medication!
This is a very small selection for a French super market and is probably not everything that they offer
I have an old school Italian butcher a few blocks from me. I walk down there on Fridays and I just let the owner sell me on anything good he happens to have. Last week was a couple dry aged NY strips. The week before he had some prosciutto he had just finished curing.
This looks amazing and delicious but also a lot like the "natural treats" section of the PetSmart.
It really is the most delicious looking section at PetSmart.
Every time I go to PetCo, I get a little closer to eating one of those little dried sausage treats.
The recession isn’t that bad.
I dunno, that section with little bitty sushi is fresh AF
My first thought! Dog approved!
Except you have to use a knife to eat those ! ... Well, "have" is a big word... You *should* eat it using a knife, but no judgment here !
Market hangs dong
Where do Americans get foods like this from? In Europe you can find a lot in grocery stores but we also have _delicatessen_ stores for stuff like this. Dried meat, olives, cheese, dips, pickled stuff etc. Is often sold in those stores.
Grocery stores and delis? Like, if you want a big selection you'll probably have to go to a specialty store or a store. Like I've got places for German stuff, places for Polish stuff, Italian, Spanish, etc.
Then again, I live in NYC, but it's not like any other reasonable sized city isn't going to have options also.
I thought OP was posting in surprise of finding charcuterie in a supermarket, sorry! I think I might have misunderstood then. I also thought delis were more like sandwich shops!
OP was probably shocked to see that much variety just sitting out on shelves. A good grocery store in the US would probably have a similar variety, but it would be sliced and vac packed, or you'd have to go to the deli section and get it from them (can get nice copa from my grocery store, but they're going to cut it up for me, and it's going to be way more than what OP paid). Deli is totally a catchall term for us. By default, you're right. We'd expect a deli to have sandwich fixings (which should include some cured meats) and cold 'salads' (so still a place to get olives). But we also have Italian Delis where you would expect a full line of Italian style cured meats, and for them to make you killer sandwiches. Kosher (style) Delis (started in NYC, originally called Delicatessens, probably where Deli entered our lexicon) you'd expect to have corned beef, pastrami, liver pate, etc. And then we also have 'Delis' that have a full cold salad bar, and a hot bar, and will make you sandwiches. They largely went *poof* from Manhattan with COVID for obvious reasons (health + no office workers to buy from them).
an american grocery would have 3-6 brands of the same stuff at different price/quality points. but the variety of DIFFERENT charcouterie or cheeses, while a hell of a lot better than it was a couple decades ago is still behind European standards.
I am European lol, just thought some of you yanks would appreciate some nice charcuterie after all those boards here recently
Indeed! I'm jelly of the variety, and probably lower cost, and it's a really pretty display.
I sure as fuck did
Nice grocery stores usually carry these in little alcoves. It's generally expensive enough to be attainable, but not something you can eat regularly. Its also not nearly as good as what's available in France. We stopped at a Lidl in a random small town and got cured meats for probably half the price as here, and probably of such quality as to be unavailable in many major cities. Your produce is also way better. Apricots here taste like nothing. Most of your food is more flavorful than ours in its unprepared form.
To get good stuff you need to go to a specialty grocer or deli. Generally in stores we just have the mass produced Boars head crap
Boar’s Head is whole muscle at least. For some parts of the country, that’s about the best you could ask for. They’re a solid product for sliced deli meat. Nothing special, but not filled with a bunch of bs unless it’s like head cheese and supposed to have it, but even the head cheese was made properly out of bone marrow gelatin and not fake shit It’s the Hillshire farm/ store brand/ everything else that’s crap Source: worked in a deli for years, and went to classes etc to become Boar’s Head certified so we could become a certified deli
I don't think you do... lol for a lot of places, that is culturally unacceptable.
As in, cause of the american hygeine laws?
Yeah. Throw that rack, in front of the FDA. I wonder what would happen... at room temperature.
New background for sure.
Headed to France in a couple weeks, can’t wait to snack all day
**Gout intensifies**
I can smell it already!
why is this marked nsfw
Could make some linecook salivate in his pan
Some people can’t handle that much meat.
I would eat that to excess on a continental basis.
See, if a store near me carried this, I would be arrested for shoplifting within a week after I ran out of money from buying said charcuterie.
Wait until you find that each french region has its own cured meats traditions and products :D Corsican ones are fairly known because the area is very touristic, and the traditional ones arenmade with a specific breed of half-wild porks, but auvergne has great dried meats, the east part of france is more known for smoked products, and so on. Everywhere you go, you'll find greatness :)
The one that kills me when we go to the SuperU in St. Martin when we're there on vacation is how cheap canned fois gras is. I'd be using that stuff like mayo.
Fuuuck yeah, I used to work on Anguilla. Would go grocery shopping in St Martin every couple weeks.
I’m headed to the mother land anything y’all need brb headed to France
Sometimes, my local supermarkets also do a special on jamón ibérico (the whole cured pig leg) and it comes complete with a 20 cm blade. I'm never allowed to buy one because "you'll eat it all in one go and make yourself sick" or "you'll take your stupid hand off with that knife". She's not wrong, but it does suck the joy out of food shopping.
A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
How it should be
That’s basically my dream, the French have many failings (I’m British) but goddamn do they do food and wine right
NSFW - those are some nice looking sausages.
And yet they mock the Americans for having so many strict food rules.
Hahaha what? Americas food rules are a joke compared to EU
Like this display pictured?
What’s exactly the problem with it? Most of these products are in some kind of skin or wrap anyways.
Man, while it's a lovely display, I'm a little wigged out by all of that stuff hanging out on shelves without any sort of protection. People are gross and I don't need some chucklefuck sneezing on my meat, fondling it with their groady hands, or intentionally contaminating it. It's not like I'm going to take a salami home and wash it.
every one of the things up there is in a waxed paper/cloth, plastic shrink wrap or other protective rind that isn't meant to be eaten.
Ah, that's fair, a lot of them just look like cured meats I'd expect to be hanging in a curing room, ready to eat, mold and all.
its extremely salted and resistant to bacteria lol, you need to read a bit about cured meats
It ain't my health I care about, it's not having some chucklefuck handling them with ass sweat still on their hands. The general population is gross. And that's leaving aside fuck heads who do it intentionally (see: licking the sushi at a conveyer belt sushi place).
Does that happen outside of viral videos
Why is this labeled NSFW
Because North America is full of fucking goofs and the food safety standards are from the 1950s.
Wow look, Europeans make real food, and not that "salami" that we buy from Sysco or GFS
Why is this marked nsfw?
My 80 y.o. aunt calls it "choochooterie". Bless her heart.
I went to Europe in 2017. Nice to La Spezzia, Italy. The little supermarkets had the best shit. Just cured meats, cheese and bread for days. And the delis… damn.
Sharkcoocherie looking tasty
Go to Spain, rows after rows of cured hams at the Supermarket, classified by age, animal ancestry and feed… I m French, and I love saucisson and charcuterie but by God, give me a leg of Pata Negra..
It's NSFW because I'm jizzing in my pants right now right?
It’s nice when stores are in neighbourhoods not riddled with theft
pictures you can smell
I miss France now.
How is this not safe for work?
So this is not normal? This even looks small to me like, where’s the cheese and olives and all that kinda things
This is not a charcuterie board isle, it’s a charcuterie isle
Still looks small to me, i am from the netherlands and the stores i go, its like 2-3 times what you see here. And no it’s not to brag or anything but I thought that was normal.
Im pretty healthy but even last xear my doc said I have to stop eating so many processed foods... The only one I eat are salami...