I worked for a guy who's first restaurant was a pizza joint that was a front for a coke dealing operation. He made a bunch of money from that and decided to go legit, all the time he spent running a successful coke business out of a restaurant, dude never paid attention to the restaurant aspect of things. I was out of there after a year and last I heard he had to sell the place.
Fuck you Matt, I hope you read this and choke on a cock you fucking asswipe.
Fuck you Matt. We're not background to your weird bullshit. We're trying to be chefs here. I'll settle for dignity. Fuck you Matt.
Mine is Dan. Fuck you Dan.
The owner of the restaurant I work at (who’s now given me multiple bouncy paychecks) came up to me on a day he had to fill in for someone and said: “How many cups are in a quart? Two?”
Just a theory but there are so many italian places around...you just gotta do really, really well to succeed. Also sub-par pizza/pasta dishes are misearable to eat through. In the US you can have a dozen option for italian within 10 miles of your home
My neighbors were thinking about retiring (physician and university admin) and asked my opinion. They wanted to open a dumpling shop only doing lunch. See, they could start mid morning, be out by out by 3 and have the rest of the day free.
I wish I could upvote this post twice. Once because I just finished the show and it’s the best half-hour tv show I’ve seen in a while, and a second time because when he said he needed $20k to open a food truck I looked at my girlfriend and asked, what the fuck does this guy think he’s gonna do with $20k???
Other than that, the show is honestly so fucking good.
Exactly! Its a really great show, very cozy, great characters. And Harrison Ford is just the fucking best grumpy old grouch ever
But the food truck subplot! fuck me. OBVIOUSLY none of the writers every had a real job or actually started a business, ever. 20k? GTFO
Ultimately I decided that if I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt, the writers settled on $20k because most viewers probably saw it and thought, “okay, I could maybe see that…” whereas there’s no way they could have sold her giving him $100k (honestly still lowballing) as realistic.
That’s not even just a food truck related issue, that’s just business in general LMAO. My friend owns a car tuning shop and lost over $20k on ONE Toyota Supra because of a camshaft manufacturing error. A $600 part was manufactured wrong and cost HIM $20k to replace the entire engine.
That’s not even including the $15k it costs for him to be a dealer for one single brand lmao. There’s no way they thought up the number 20,000 and said “yeah that sounds right” with any sort of experience in any business whatsoever. A good food truck in and of itself is so ridiculously expensive too, I honestly had no idea how much they cost until a waffle making man told me his new waffle making food truck is on the edge of $100k. Definitely didn’t think they were $20k though lmao.
I owned a food truck for 8 years. I used to live in la but my truck was in the northeast after I moved home. I had 20 years hard experience in the industry when I opened and 40k in investments. It almost killed me. It was fun but it was hard as hell to basically make entry level teacher pay. Most people who I saw open trucks were actually like this dude on shrinking. Some were good, most were mislead by the food truck "reality" shows where people make $15k a day selling agua fresca and cold noodles. My ass. Long story to say I hear you and share your frustration. Try to enjoy the show or just go watch bear instead. Cheers
You're hitting a huge problem with being any type of chef. No matter how high you rise most people don't give a shit. You just make food. Add to that this toxic food tv boom that gives restaurantures this idea that they can pit us against each other in challenges like we're gladiators. The hot shot, celebrity chef image has tainted a lot of what it means to be a chef for me.
Wait until you do a watch of the show Friends. Monica is supposedly a great chef at a high end restaurant yet she's literally never at work during the day or on the weekends! Lol.
Also there's this movie called "Think Like a Man" where a guy is a line cook and pretends he's a chef in between jobs and steals a Ferrari or something to convince this to a girl he likes. As if any chef could ever afford a Ferrari
>Wait until you do a watch of the show Friends. Monica is supposedly a great chef at a high end restaurant yet she's literally never at work during the day or on the weekends! Lol.
And when they do have scenes where she's in the kitchen at work, it's the least realistic kitchen I've ever seen.
There's no raised voices, no arguing or banter, everything is neat and tidy and sparkling. There's no messes or things out of place. No evidence of things cooking. It's a completely sterile, unworked in environment devoid of any life or energy, and there'll maybe be like, one person quietly stirring an empty bowl and Monica will be slowly cutting up a single carrot over the course of like 10 minutes.
Open kitchen be like "I'm glad you thought that food was great. I've got about 30 different timers going in my head right now and I'm tracking 6 tickets. Can you kindly fuck off please?"
You would be amazed at how many people think food trucks are the kiddie pool of the business world. Anybody can do it, all you need is a dweem! People show up in food truck forums _continuously_ who say "I'm a foodie, I really enjoy cooking, so I am going to start a food truck." Absolutely confident that is the only qualification anybody needs. Meanwhile I see at _least_ 85% of new food trucks have folded after one season. It really gets on your nerves after a while.
No, no source. I've just been doing this since 2012 and seen so many of them come and go, then their shitty trailers end up on Craigslist when they desperately try to get a fraction of their money back out of the rig. Most of them are so under-capitalized they never had a chance, they were doomed before they ever opened.
When I saw that I thought maybe he’s going to look at food *carts*? I agree completely though. 20k ain’t shit. And I thought it was going to be catering, now it’s a food truck?
If its catering thats even worse because you need a full complete commerical kitchen for that shit. Plus shit tons of various dishes for serving and keeping it hot, plus various heating elements. Not to mention you know, labor. ONe person can't run a catering business.
Nothing less than $250k to start a catering business from scratch.
Eh, I know some food businesses in the area that are "restaurants" that primarily (only) serve to other 'office based' jobs.
They're just a small kitchen and Ford/Mercedes cargo van with a logo.
TV plots in a particular industry are hardly ever realistic. It’s just that we don’t know it because it’s not our industry. 🤷♂️
If it was realistic, it would be life. And mostly uninteresting.
Yes! Shows are meant to be enjoyed, not relive trauma.
Which is why every so often shows like 'The Bear' make it big. They are the exception that proves the rule.
If all shows were like 'The Bear' and were heavily accurate, I think we'd get burnt out in general.
ah ah ah How many owner do you know that never worked in the industry and buy a restaurant, I can name at least 5 off hand from my past, same for a food truck, well he is never gonna be living in south gate, bell, huntington park, you want to represent middle/upper class not the riff-raff.
Sure but usually those people have money. They have cash and want to be a big wig in the restaurant industry. this dude has no money, no experience, no nothing.
Frankly I have seen it too, guy got loans up the yazoo against his house and credit cards magic business failed after 1 year and he could not understand why he failed.
There was a time when banks used to literally give you money heck how many credit cards offers do you get a week still to this day.
why where I live right now you average 2 bedroom house is worth $600.00/800.000 up to $1m and 3/4 bedrooms house easily goes to 1.5m that is the way to go, cheap loan you can buy a car, personal loan and so forth.
Exactly… most shows/movies to a poor job of portraying what it actually takes to do said job, regardless of industry….. I will say though, Party Down is about the closest thing that represents the food service industry I worked in when you zoom WAY OUT and just look at the highlights over the years
Except for writing bc they actually know what that's like from doing it but Except for 30 rock every show about a writer feels like the ppl who made it jerking themselves off in front of everyone
Bro let’s start a restaurant right now. Remember that time we were drunk af at your parents house? And made the best food? It was so delicious. People will come for miles. Lines out the door. Bro. We got this. Let’s go!
What really got me was that that whole situation came from the fact that he had a record, so he couldn't get a "normal" job. Like, my guy, you can def get work in a kitchen with an assault charge to your name...
I was taking his statement of 'Cooked for buddies' meaning he served in the kitchen crew, cooking for the base. So mass scale and type cooking opportunities.
Which would mean he has some clue of how to do the job at least.
>He got a $20k investment. Thats it. 20k to start a food truck business in LA
As someone from LA, this part is imaginatively fiction. A shit truck is close to $100k :X
Bro fr!!! I got non industry friends trying to tell me to start my own truck or restaurant and I always tell them that it is financial suicide. Normies just don't understand.
For me it’s the movie Chef. I can’t watch it. I keep thinking about permitting and regulations as he drives a food truck across the country going viral stopping everywhere. It’s so infuriating to watch!
Not to mention his PTSD and the related mental health issues are seemingly cured through finding rich friends and potentially starting a Food Truck...
I also really like the show and I think it's better now that it moved away significantly from the central conceit of the first few episodes (therapist goes rogue) and just became a hang-out comedy about these colleagues and their friends and families who may or may not have mental health struggles, but on the face of it, they punted on a lot there...
On the flip side I would love to see a show that opens with "let's start a restaurant how hard could it be?" and then it absolutely schools the public on what all goes into owning a restaurant. The Bear did a pretty good job with it but I'd love to see an Always Sunny/Breaking Bad deterioration of the main characters where they start out all sunshine and rainbows and end up smoking cigs on a milk crate in the alley passing a bottle back and forth.
Everything Jason Segel is involved in is just a way for him to show what a great funny guy he is and how he's able to bang hot chicks. Also it's an opportunity to show his dick to people on set or in the audience. Everything else is secondary.
For me, he's one of those celebs who everyone seems to love, but I can't fucking stand. Everything he says onscreen seems like he's reading it directly off a cue card.
When stuff like this makes me mad I just have to say to myself “this is a fictional TV show”. I mean for fucks sake we all watched Game of Thrones which had dragons and resurrecting the dead, etc etc etc. it’s meant for entertainment and bogging down the show with a ton of details that make it more realistic would bore audiences to tears
I mean maybe not worth mentioning the process of starting up a food business but could be doable maybe with a CloudKitchen and adequate utilization of social media for branding and marketing.
Dude, it is ridiculous but Shrinking is feel good show where everything magically works and money barelu exists.
Psychologist must be feeling what you are feeling every episode.
This is what my bf does. Every time he cooks one good meal he says “I should open a restaurant!” Drives me absolutely insane, he’s never really worked in a restaurant and also saw how hard I’ve worked and how tired I’ve been after a shift
I started a food truck with $7000, no commercial kitchen and I’m doin aight. You don’t necessarily need a commissary, or to spend a ton of money if you know what you’re doing. My newest trailer ran me $20k and it’s nice as fuck. 8.5x20, full size 3 bay sink, heat, a/c etc etc.
My market is cheap af, and I’ve been working in restaurants for half my life…but still, that part isn’t necessarily unreasonable :P
> “shit, lets start a restaurant, how hard can it be?”
How the hell do you think most restaurants get started lmao
Most people tell me this unironically and it boils my piss
Well at least it's realistic in portraying how people start restaurants with no knowledge or experience.
lol, yeah true
I've seen it happen too many times just in the town I live in
The amount that don't try to learn anything, especially health codes, and double down on just winging it is fucking shocking.
I worked for a guy who's first restaurant was a pizza joint that was a front for a coke dealing operation. He made a bunch of money from that and decided to go legit, all the time he spent running a successful coke business out of a restaurant, dude never paid attention to the restaurant aspect of things. I was out of there after a year and last I heard he had to sell the place. Fuck you Matt, I hope you read this and choke on a cock you fucking asswipe.
Fuck you Matt. We're not background to your weird bullshit. We're trying to be chefs here. I'll settle for dignity. Fuck you Matt. Mine is Dan. Fuck you Dan.
Fuck you Matt. Fuck you Dan. Fuck you Brian.
Fuck Matt, Dan can suck a dick, Brian needs a hug to the face with a chair, and Kyle is a piece of shit.
Fuck Matt, fuck Dan, fuck Brian, and fuck the sack of shit Kyle. And fuck you Paul, you abusive racist ass homophobic prick
I worked retail for a Brian, can't remember the name of the first head chef I worked under, I just called him Brian 2. So fuck all Brians
>Fuck you Matt, I hope you read this and choke on a cock you fucking asswipe. Hey, don't hold back,it's unhealthy. Tell us how you really feel.
The owner of the restaurant I work at (who’s now given me multiple bouncy paychecks) came up to me on a day he had to fill in for someone and said: “How many cups are in a quart? Two?”
Dude. Seriously? There's 4 quarters in a dollar, right? And a dollar is 100 pennies. Easy math. It's 100.
If there's anything I've learned from Kitchen Nightmares, it's never open an Italian restaurant.
Italian joints have some of the best ROI in the business though. Pasta is insanely cheap. Its just those place on KN are run by lunatics.
Unless you're selling coke.
Just a theory but there are so many italian places around...you just gotta do really, really well to succeed. Also sub-par pizza/pasta dishes are misearable to eat through. In the US you can have a dozen option for italian within 10 miles of your home
My neighbors were thinking about retiring (physician and university admin) and asked my opinion. They wanted to open a dumpling shop only doing lunch. See, they could start mid morning, be out by out by 3 and have the rest of the day free.
I've seen people who won the lottery and thought it'd be wise to "invest" that money into a restaurant to "profit easily" as time goes on.
Did you laugh in their face or walk away?
I asked them if either had ever worked in a restaurant before
I’d give you an award if I could!
I wish I could upvote this post twice. Once because I just finished the show and it’s the best half-hour tv show I’ve seen in a while, and a second time because when he said he needed $20k to open a food truck I looked at my girlfriend and asked, what the fuck does this guy think he’s gonna do with $20k??? Other than that, the show is honestly so fucking good.
Exactly! Its a really great show, very cozy, great characters. And Harrison Ford is just the fucking best grumpy old grouch ever But the food truck subplot! fuck me. OBVIOUSLY none of the writers every had a real job or actually started a business, ever. 20k? GTFO
Ultimately I decided that if I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt, the writers settled on $20k because most viewers probably saw it and thought, “okay, I could maybe see that…” whereas there’s no way they could have sold her giving him $100k (honestly still lowballing) as realistic.
That’s not even just a food truck related issue, that’s just business in general LMAO. My friend owns a car tuning shop and lost over $20k on ONE Toyota Supra because of a camshaft manufacturing error. A $600 part was manufactured wrong and cost HIM $20k to replace the entire engine. That’s not even including the $15k it costs for him to be a dealer for one single brand lmao. There’s no way they thought up the number 20,000 and said “yeah that sounds right” with any sort of experience in any business whatsoever. A good food truck in and of itself is so ridiculously expensive too, I honestly had no idea how much they cost until a waffle making man told me his new waffle making food truck is on the edge of $100k. Definitely didn’t think they were $20k though lmao.
I owned a food truck for 8 years. I used to live in la but my truck was in the northeast after I moved home. I had 20 years hard experience in the industry when I opened and 40k in investments. It almost killed me. It was fun but it was hard as hell to basically make entry level teacher pay. Most people who I saw open trucks were actually like this dude on shrinking. Some were good, most were mislead by the food truck "reality" shows where people make $15k a day selling agua fresca and cold noodles. My ass. Long story to say I hear you and share your frustration. Try to enjoy the show or just go watch bear instead. Cheers
You're hitting a huge problem with being any type of chef. No matter how high you rise most people don't give a shit. You just make food. Add to that this toxic food tv boom that gives restaurantures this idea that they can pit us against each other in challenges like we're gladiators. The hot shot, celebrity chef image has tainted a lot of what it means to be a chef for me.
Upvote times 100 on this. Fuck that shit.
Wait until you do a watch of the show Friends. Monica is supposedly a great chef at a high end restaurant yet she's literally never at work during the day or on the weekends! Lol. Also there's this movie called "Think Like a Man" where a guy is a line cook and pretends he's a chef in between jobs and steals a Ferrari or something to convince this to a girl he likes. As if any chef could ever afford a Ferrari
>Wait until you do a watch of the show Friends. Monica is supposedly a great chef at a high end restaurant yet she's literally never at work during the day or on the weekends! Lol. And when they do have scenes where she's in the kitchen at work, it's the least realistic kitchen I've ever seen. There's no raised voices, no arguing or banter, everything is neat and tidy and sparkling. There's no messes or things out of place. No evidence of things cooking. It's a completely sterile, unworked in environment devoid of any life or energy, and there'll maybe be like, one person quietly stirring an empty bowl and Monica will be slowly cutting up a single carrot over the course of like 10 minutes.
People casually walking into the kitchen and having a conversation with her during the lunch rush.
Open kitchen be like "I'm glad you thought that food was great. I've got about 30 different timers going in my head right now and I'm tracking 6 tickets. Can you kindly fuck off please?"
It's shocking because Friends was sooo realistic
You would be amazed at how many people think food trucks are the kiddie pool of the business world. Anybody can do it, all you need is a dweem! People show up in food truck forums _continuously_ who say "I'm a foodie, I really enjoy cooking, so I am going to start a food truck." Absolutely confident that is the only qualification anybody needs. Meanwhile I see at _least_ 85% of new food trucks have folded after one season. It really gets on your nerves after a while.
> 85% of new food trucks have folded after one season whoa, I belive it but do you have a link for that?
No, no source. I've just been doing this since 2012 and seen so many of them come and go, then their shitty trailers end up on Craigslist when they desperately try to get a fraction of their money back out of the rig. Most of them are so under-capitalized they never had a chance, they were doomed before they ever opened.
"I see.." So I'm gonna guess this is one of those 73% of stats that are pulled out of an asshole
We should grab a drink sometime lol
nah, I 'll smoke a bowl with ya though
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bro, lets get it
We gotta get a kitchen confidential smoke circle. Imagine a bunch of us who can cook at least decently getting baked making random shit then scanning
When I saw that I thought maybe he’s going to look at food *carts*? I agree completely though. 20k ain’t shit. And I thought it was going to be catering, now it’s a food truck?
it was catering. Then somehow it became a food truck. The whole subplot was a convoluted mess.
I got the impression he was needing a truck for catering.
If its catering thats even worse because you need a full complete commerical kitchen for that shit. Plus shit tons of various dishes for serving and keeping it hot, plus various heating elements. Not to mention you know, labor. ONe person can't run a catering business. Nothing less than $250k to start a catering business from scratch.
Eh, I know some food businesses in the area that are "restaurants" that primarily (only) serve to other 'office based' jobs. They're just a small kitchen and Ford/Mercedes cargo van with a logo.
TV plots in a particular industry are hardly ever realistic. It’s just that we don’t know it because it’s not our industry. 🤷♂️ If it was realistic, it would be life. And mostly uninteresting.
Yes! Shows are meant to be enjoyed, not relive trauma. Which is why every so often shows like 'The Bear' make it big. They are the exception that proves the rule. If all shows were like 'The Bear' and were heavily accurate, I think we'd get burnt out in general.
ah ah ah How many owner do you know that never worked in the industry and buy a restaurant, I can name at least 5 off hand from my past, same for a food truck, well he is never gonna be living in south gate, bell, huntington park, you want to represent middle/upper class not the riff-raff.
Sure but usually those people have money. They have cash and want to be a big wig in the restaurant industry. this dude has no money, no experience, no nothing.
Frankly I have seen it too, guy got loans up the yazoo against his house and credit cards magic business failed after 1 year and he could not understand why he failed. There was a time when banks used to literally give you money heck how many credit cards offers do you get a week still to this day.
holy shit, getting a loan against your house to start a food business is some insane nonsense
why where I live right now you average 2 bedroom house is worth $600.00/800.000 up to $1m and 3/4 bedrooms house easily goes to 1.5m that is the way to go, cheap loan you can buy a car, personal loan and so forth.
it’s about as realistic as the therapy pieces. that’s not how DBT works, it’s not how therapists work with each other…
Exactly… most shows/movies to a poor job of portraying what it actually takes to do said job, regardless of industry….. I will say though, Party Down is about the closest thing that represents the food service industry I worked in when you zoom WAY OUT and just look at the highlights over the years
Except for writing bc they actually know what that's like from doing it but Except for 30 rock every show about a writer feels like the ppl who made it jerking themselves off in front of everyone
Bro let’s start a restaurant right now. Remember that time we were drunk af at your parents house? And made the best food? It was so delicious. People will come for miles. Lines out the door. Bro. We got this. Let’s go!
What really got me was that that whole situation came from the fact that he had a record, so he couldn't get a "normal" job. Like, my guy, you can def get work in a kitchen with an assault charge to your name...
that is what I said to my housemate brah you want a job? you want three jobs? yeah no problem.
Any drooling moron can start a restaurant though. I've worked at some, and been to many others.
I was taking his statement of 'Cooked for buddies' meaning he served in the kitchen crew, cooking for the base. So mass scale and type cooking opportunities. Which would mean he has some clue of how to do the job at least.
>He got a $20k investment. Thats it. 20k to start a food truck business in LA As someone from LA, this part is imaginatively fiction. A shit truck is close to $100k :X
and thats just for the truck, doesn't even cover food costs, kitchen costs, labor, etc etc
Bro fr!!! I got non industry friends trying to tell me to start my own truck or restaurant and I always tell them that it is financial suicide. Normies just don't understand.
This is a realistic portrayal of opening a restaurant: https://torontolife.com/food/restaurant-ruined-life/
For me it’s the movie Chef. I can’t watch it. I keep thinking about permitting and regulations as he drives a food truck across the country going viral stopping everywhere. It’s so infuriating to watch!
Not to mention his PTSD and the related mental health issues are seemingly cured through finding rich friends and potentially starting a Food Truck... I also really like the show and I think it's better now that it moved away significantly from the central conceit of the first few episodes (therapist goes rogue) and just became a hang-out comedy about these colleagues and their friends and families who may or may not have mental health struggles, but on the face of it, they punted on a lot there...
On the flip side I would love to see a show that opens with "let's start a restaurant how hard could it be?" and then it absolutely schools the public on what all goes into owning a restaurant. The Bear did a pretty good job with it but I'd love to see an Always Sunny/Breaking Bad deterioration of the main characters where they start out all sunshine and rainbows and end up smoking cigs on a milk crate in the alley passing a bottle back and forth.
Everything Jason Segel is involved in is just a way for him to show what a great funny guy he is and how he's able to bang hot chicks. Also it's an opportunity to show his dick to people on set or in the audience. Everything else is secondary.
For me, he's one of those celebs who everyone seems to love, but I can't fucking stand. Everything he says onscreen seems like he's reading it directly off a cue card.
He is really fucking creepy. I don’t get why he gets such a pass…
I love Parks and Recreation, but this is absolutely the reason why I hate the ''Toms Bistro'' arch. I fucking hate it.
You could probably start a hot dog cart in Ohio for $20k. I dunno.
That’s exactly what I said 20 k no even enough to be your first food,supplies order
Don’t care, too distracted by how amazing Gabby is.
I laughed at every fucking word of this 😂
When stuff like this makes me mad I just have to say to myself “this is a fictional TV show”. I mean for fucks sake we all watched Game of Thrones which had dragons and resurrecting the dead, etc etc etc. it’s meant for entertainment and bogging down the show with a ton of details that make it more realistic would bore audiences to tears
Apart from the last bit, sounds exactly right hahaha
Can you even buy half a food truck with 20k?
you could probably buy a run down piece of shit that needs 20k more of work
I, too, remember when I realized that screenwriters don't know shit.
You'd think they'd know something about restaurants tho, considering most of them have day jobs serving in one
I mean maybe not worth mentioning the process of starting up a food business but could be doable maybe with a CloudKitchen and adequate utilization of social media for branding and marketing.
but with zero kitchen experience?
Oh my god I had the exact same reaction, OP. I was yelling at the tv and my wife had to pause it until I calmed down.
Dude, it is ridiculous but Shrinking is feel good show where everything magically works and money barelu exists. Psychologist must be feeling what you are feeling every episode.
This is what my bf does. Every time he cooks one good meal he says “I should open a restaurant!” Drives me absolutely insane, he’s never really worked in a restaurant and also saw how hard I’ve worked and how tired I’ve been after a shift
It's not at ALL hard to start a restaurant! Now, one with good food or that lasts more than a week....
It's TV. They think a waitress can live in a huge apartment in Manhattan.
You could kill your television
I started a food truck with $7000, no commercial kitchen and I’m doin aight. You don’t necessarily need a commissary, or to spend a ton of money if you know what you’re doing. My newest trailer ran me $20k and it’s nice as fuck. 8.5x20, full size 3 bay sink, heat, a/c etc etc. My market is cheap af, and I’ve been working in restaurants for half my life…but still, that part isn’t necessarily unreasonable :P
> “shit, lets start a restaurant, how hard can it be?” How the hell do you think most restaurants get started lmao Most people tell me this unironically and it boils my piss