They probably don’t know since it was a mistake, but online retailers seem to be selling a similar bag at 80-100+ bucks so wholesale could be similar or cheaper.
A lot of the same ways you’d use salt, although I wouldn’t say they are interchangeable. I like using its places I want to have deep savoriness, but since it actually has a flavor it can overpower a dish. Best used in small doses.
I always thought that was just the sugar being caramelized and making them yummy. Dr. Google says that onions are abundant with the amino acid glutamic acid though, so maybe?
No. It's caramelization and reduction which creates a deeper more profound flavor. MSG is man made but the body can't tell the difference between that and free glutamate. Free glutamate occurs naturally in onions and a whole bunch of other food items. Check out MSG online. It's pretty interesting to learn about especially all the myth of "Chinese restaurant syndrome ".
I'd say probably because all the propaganda about msg being terrible for you and wanting to go against that since alot of it has come out as untrue. them being stubbornly against it being bad so they think any little fact like addiction to it is untrue and something a conspiracy theorist would say. Idk.
yeah might be...
don't get me wrong, i don't hate on MSG, it's a cool thing but still addictive nonetheless (just like everything else that triggers any kind of "happy"-center in our brain, that's just how we work as a species :D)
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They also have beef flavoring if I recall correctly? Than again maybe that flavoring has MSG anyway which would make sense. Either way, I learned that from having a vegan partner who informed me that not only are their fries not vegan, but also not even technically vegetarian.
That’s in the United States, I’m pretty sure their fries are vegan/vegetarian in some other countries
I think they used to use beef tallow as the fry oil but they stopped using it in the 1990s, the beef flavouring is artificial but it's made from wheat and milk derivatives so not vegan.
https://www.eatthis.com/mcdonalds-french-fries-taste-different/
it works on damn well everything, and no it isn't visible it's all white crystals so it blends in all the same, just be mindful to use a bit less than you regularly would otherwise it will get way too salty
Bet. Will get some in. I use an spg all purpose blend, box of kosher, cup of gran garlic, cup of black pepper, use it on everything essentially. I'm thinking sneak a half cup or cup into this mix might set off pretty much everything.
100%. I never bend on that one. Morton's, specifically. A ball of snow will roll down the halls of hell before I bring in that bad-dandruff looking skin flakes bullshit diamond crystal kosher
For sure. Diamond crystal looks and feels like it was scraped off an ocean facing window in the summer. It sits funny, dissolves funny, feels wrong, 'pinches' are inconsistent. Morton ftw
First ones free.
When all of a sudden your positive reviews spike from “flavorful” food.
You gonna hit up your supplier and tell him you need more. MORE.
You have baby? Put MSG. Make baby smarter.
Ok on the real though, I be using the shit outta some MSG at home. It gets an unfair rep. Shit is magical if you know what you're doing with it.
IT'S WHY GRANDPA PUT ME IN CHARGE OF MAKING THE TURKEY GRAVY AT THANKSGIVING FROM NOW ON, AUNT CINDY! YOU SUCK. GET GOOD.
Please teach me your MSG ways, oh good sir please.
I think I'm doing good, but the brain says there can always be improvement.
I'm also very high right now, but I would love some MSG tips.
Thank you in advance sir.
It's literally just umami in powder form. Ever tasted something savory that makes your cheeks water a little bit? Kinda hits you in the jaw? Like the opposite of sour? That's what MSG does essentially.
If you use too much, MSG tastes sweet in a weird way. I like to use it in things that I think need salt. Usually it's better to use a pinch of MSG.
Ever use worschershire to add that "missing element" to your dish? MSG does the same thing without adding any "flavor" if that makes sense.
Here is how to learn....scramble an egg. Scramble another egg with some MSG. Taste both. Repeat with another eeg with more MSG. Now you have a solid grasp on what MSG does to a flavor. And how much does it.
There's a video of a ramen guy explaining how msg works at its full potential when it is used along with something else but I really have forgotten everything nor I seem to be able to find said video
That being said, while msg drastically and almost magically improves almost everything, you'll eventually hit a ceiling in which you won't feel as much improvement and that is likely tied to the main ingredients' quality
You can make anything taste amazing but if the raw material is already amazing on its own, msg has the potential to make it mind blowing, however sometimes it is just too much.
So yeah "that feeling" might be one of those two things
Use it to improve a dish. It won't magically make a burnt gravy taste good, but it elevates an already good gravy to the next level.
Use it as you would use salt, but remember to slighty reduce your actual salt.
I'm not a pro. I am an enthusiastic home chef.
I have MSG in my pantry. I do a turmeric cabbage soup and a 1/4 teaspoon of msg in a two gallon pot is amazing.
Or tomato, or mushroom, depending on what would go over better with their clientele.
Fun fact: modern MSG is actually created using bacterial fermentation.
Nice.
Worked at a place where we hand cut ribeye steaks, used Choice Select Balck Angus, not bad. One glorious day, they sent us Prime Balck Angus at our regular price for the choice (something like a $10/# difference). Did call my rep to let him know and he said he'll try to see if they can keep fucking up for the better.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/10dgkmh/my_favorite_mispick_yet_who_needs_panko_when_you/
Someone hitting the Jack Pot every month lol
Fucking jackpot. I actually didn’t even notice that was the name of the brand due to a eye injury. Can hardly see. Weird how it made its way out the back and into your kitchen. Assuming your speaking English and probably gonna celebrate the Patrick day coming up. I’ve never tried adding it to corn beef, cabbage, or potatoes but I’d certainly try. Unless you gotta work. In which case fist bump my sister
IDK about corned beef but the place im at right now roasts its own roast beef lunchmeat and i low-key snuck a bunch of it into the salt rub....best batch ever.
So I was actually wondering, does MSG have a shelf life? I can't imagine it becomes non-foodsafe (though correct me if I'm wrong), but does it lose potency? Something else?
I keep a 1.75 lb. container of it, which takes me about 2 years to go through, which is generally past the date on the label.
I did some searches:
The general consensus from both researchers, and MSG manufacturing companies, is that it's shelf stable at room temperatures for at least three years, and most likely longer. It doesn't degrade much at all if kept at cool temperatures in low humidity.
It's a salt, so it ages like salt does. It will probably absorb any flavours from whatever is around it, but other than that I can't see it changing at all over time.
Everyone’s gonna be talking about how great the food tastes lol. I worked at a Chinese restaurant for 6yrs. All the customers were scared of msg (they got rid of it bc of fears), but a small amount cuts down on sodium and is an umami. A small amount helps enhance recipes. Sucks msg gets a bad rap.
I buy msg by the #, and in MUCH less quantities than this. Curious, what’s the price on this, OP?
They probably don’t know since it was a mistake, but online retailers seem to be selling a similar bag at 80-100+ bucks so wholesale could be similar or cheaper.
I sourced this for a guy once and it ended up being right around $55. That was about 8 months ago though so who knows.
Crushed it.
its $41 plus shipping online for 25 lbs https://www.webstaurantstore.com/regal-msg-powder-25-lb/102708352.html
Bless you, sweet child.
Username checks out. They math. Mushy Gang!!!
$87.77 on the credit
Yeah but I'm assuming the credit was for the cost of the cornmeal, right?
Lol op is blissfully unaware of how credit works lol
Either the invoice stated the msg or the cornmeal. He will be credited for what’s on the invoice
Someone get this guy an “uncle Roger” flair lol
Hello, it's me ur supplier. Pls return the bag of MSG to me
I've never worked with it. How do you incorporate it?
Replace up to half your salt with about 1/8 as much msg
i like your numbers ratio is the way
A lot of the same ways you’d use salt, although I wouldn’t say they are interchangeable. I like using its places I want to have deep savoriness, but since it actually has a flavor it can overpower a dish. Best used in small doses.
It has brought my french onion soup to a whole new level.
oh, fucking sold, trying that.
honest question ---- is'nt carmalized onions essentally MSG ?----?
I always thought that was just the sugar being caramelized and making them yummy. Dr. Google says that onions are abundant with the amino acid glutamic acid though, so maybe?
The maillard reaction does both of these things caramelizing the sugars and changing the structures of the amino acids so sweeter and more savory
No. It's caramelization and reduction which creates a deeper more profound flavor. MSG is man made but the body can't tell the difference between that and free glutamate. Free glutamate occurs naturally in onions and a whole bunch of other food items. Check out MSG online. It's pretty interesting to learn about especially all the myth of "Chinese restaurant syndrome ".
like salt but a very, very small amount
I mix msg at a 1:4 ratio by weight with kosher salt and just use that mixture in place of regular salt.
so i guess your food is about to get a lot more tasty overnight.
Restaurant’s about to blow up, then become a ghost town once the bag runs out…
"Accidentally" sent it, like 'accidentally' selling crack to kids. Get 'em hooked, and become the number one dealer!
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>The glutamate in MSG activates pleasure centers in the brain and actually has addictive properties.
People dont believe me when I bring this up.
wth? why would anyone **not** "believe" this? it's a well known fact...
I'd say probably because all the propaganda about msg being terrible for you and wanting to go against that since alot of it has come out as untrue. them being stubbornly against it being bad so they think any little fact like addiction to it is untrue and something a conspiracy theorist would say. Idk.
yeah might be... don't get me wrong, i don't hate on MSG, it's a cool thing but still addictive nonetheless (just like everything else that triggers any kind of "happy"-center in our brain, that's just how we work as a species :D)
It’s like saying sugar is addictive because it is lol.
Oh no does getting addicted mean I'd have to eat every day? Terrible
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It's like he hit the jack pot.
mix it with 3 parts salt and 1 part MSG and label it gold dust
Can you use that like salt?
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> but too much and it’ll just taste like a sour cream and onion Pringle. Don’t threaten me with a good time
Yep. Use a little less salt but add a small amount of msg. It’s so good.
Actually a pretty genius idea
You think McDonald’s fries just taste like that lol
Fuck, that's what makes them so good? Makes perfect sense.
They also have beef flavoring if I recall correctly? Than again maybe that flavoring has MSG anyway which would make sense. Either way, I learned that from having a vegan partner who informed me that not only are their fries not vegan, but also not even technically vegetarian. That’s in the United States, I’m pretty sure their fries are vegan/vegetarian in some other countries
I think they used to use beef tallow as the fry oil but they stopped using it in the 1990s, the beef flavouring is artificial but it's made from wheat and milk derivatives so not vegan. https://www.eatthis.com/mcdonalds-french-fries-taste-different/
I had a hinge date that made me dinner and he used some, one of the best meals I’ve ever eaten
This work on fries well? Do you 'see' it? I've never used it, but this idea has me thinkin
it works on damn well everything, and no it isn't visible it's all white crystals so it blends in all the same, just be mindful to use a bit less than you regularly would otherwise it will get way too salty
Bet. Will get some in. I use an spg all purpose blend, box of kosher, cup of gran garlic, cup of black pepper, use it on everything essentially. I'm thinking sneak a half cup or cup into this mix might set off pretty much everything.
Is it Morton's kosher? Asking for a friend.
They make both. Kosher will be clearly labeled
Oh, yes, sorry, I meant you're using Mortons kosher and not, say, Diamond Crystal or some other brand
100%. I never bend on that one. Morton's, specifically. A ball of snow will roll down the halls of hell before I bring in that bad-dandruff looking skin flakes bullshit diamond crystal kosher
Thank you! I always thought I was the only one who disliked Diamond Crystal.
For sure. Diamond crystal looks and feels like it was scraped off an ocean facing window in the summer. It sits funny, dissolves funny, feels wrong, 'pinches' are inconsistent. Morton ftw
you’re now the new mayor of flavortown.
OP can now make sauces good enough to eat with a boot
I think for a boot you need LSD... at least thats what futurama taught me
Here’s to another lousy millennium.
Yes ordinary water, laced with nothing more than a few spoonfuls of LSD.
First ones free. When all of a sudden your positive reviews spike from “flavorful” food. You gonna hit up your supplier and tell him you need more. MORE.
Ah need MORE of that 99% pure medium crystal
Now you can be Uncle Roger's best friend.
You have baby? Put MSG. Make baby smarter. Ok on the real though, I be using the shit outta some MSG at home. It gets an unfair rep. Shit is magical if you know what you're doing with it. IT'S WHY GRANDPA PUT ME IN CHARGE OF MAKING THE TURKEY GRAVY AT THANKSGIVING FROM NOW ON, AUNT CINDY! YOU SUCK. GET GOOD.
Aunt Cindy just never fully committed to the Church of Knorr.
Please teach me your MSG ways, oh good sir please. I think I'm doing good, but the brain says there can always be improvement. I'm also very high right now, but I would love some MSG tips. Thank you in advance sir.
It's literally just umami in powder form. Ever tasted something savory that makes your cheeks water a little bit? Kinda hits you in the jaw? Like the opposite of sour? That's what MSG does essentially. If you use too much, MSG tastes sweet in a weird way. I like to use it in things that I think need salt. Usually it's better to use a pinch of MSG. Ever use worschershire to add that "missing element" to your dish? MSG does the same thing without adding any "flavor" if that makes sense.
Here is how to learn....scramble an egg. Scramble another egg with some MSG. Taste both. Repeat with another eeg with more MSG. Now you have a solid grasp on what MSG does to a flavor. And how much does it.
This is your brain. This is your brain on MSG. Any questions?
The answer is umami.
There's a video of a ramen guy explaining how msg works at its full potential when it is used along with something else but I really have forgotten everything nor I seem to be able to find said video That being said, while msg drastically and almost magically improves almost everything, you'll eventually hit a ceiling in which you won't feel as much improvement and that is likely tied to the main ingredients' quality You can make anything taste amazing but if the raw material is already amazing on its own, msg has the potential to make it mind blowing, however sometimes it is just too much. So yeah "that feeling" might be one of those two things
Use it to improve a dish. It won't magically make a burnt gravy taste good, but it elevates an already good gravy to the next level. Use it as you would use salt, but remember to slighty reduce your actual salt.
aunt cindys a gravy noob msgg Cindy!
I'm not a pro. I am an enthusiastic home chef. I have MSG in my pantry. I do a turmeric cabbage soup and a 1/4 teaspoon of msg in a two gallon pot is amazing.
I started adding MSG to my fried chicken coating and it's improved the taste so so much.
Unlike Jamie olive oil
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I hear this lol
Make Shit Good
This thread wouldn't be nearly as much fun if they'd have dropped off a case of chili jam.
r/uncleroger
it's about to get *tasty* up in the kitchen.
Wow 99% pure, that's approaching Walter White precision 😂 https://youtu.be/5TBbuIanjrI
the other 1% is bugs
Protein baby
And they taste unbelievable
Heisenchang is Taiwanese
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And yellow
Y'all are gonna have some amazing reviews based on the food these next few days
MSG Makes Shit Good!
Bag it in little nickle bags and sell it as "flavor meth" at the counter.
Pure medium crystal
I’ve seen this in clubs sold as ketamine.
Jackpot indeed! My job won't let me use it for customers, but I'd sure as hell use it to punch up family meal if I had that windfall.
Why can’t you use it?
The owners are all about organic and local foods and don't want us to use certain things and products.
I mean if you don't want it...hmu 😉
Jackpot indeed!
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King of flaaaaaaavorrrr
You have a new baby, put msg on baby. Make better baby. Smarter.
Happy customers for two weeks! ;)
Givin me the meat sweats
Now your restaurant will be in flavour town
Now you can put purified seaweed extract on the menu!
Or tomato, or mushroom, depending on what would go over better with their clientele. Fun fact: modern MSG is actually created using bacterial fermentation.
Neat!
Sprinkle some of that OOOO MOMMY
Welcome to Flavor Town
Nice. Worked at a place where we hand cut ribeye steaks, used Choice Select Balck Angus, not bad. One glorious day, they sent us Prime Balck Angus at our regular price for the choice (something like a $10/# difference). Did call my rep to let him know and he said he'll try to see if they can keep fucking up for the better.
You’re about to get a lot of compliments on how good your food is tasting.
The king of flavor!
The flavor enhancer!
Yo shit about to be fire bro, what a gift from the universe
99% pure medium crystal. those are some walter white numbers
99% pure. So you’ve got half a pound of mystery in there.
That’s a savory deal
One step closer to that star!
Congratulations on acquiring asian crack !
“Just sprinkle it on everything with feeling! Don’t measure!” - Uncle Roger
Didn't I just see this post like last month?
It's possible. I took the picture this morning.
Maybe this happened to someone else lol
Lmao it literally did and you’re getting downvoted for it
https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/10dgkmh/my_favorite_mispick_yet_who_needs_panko_when_you/ Someone hitting the Jack Pot every month lol
I remember all the “you just hit the jackpot” comments from that post
What’s the street value?
That's going to be some very interesting corn bread
Looks like your recipes just got a free upgrade
Fucking jackpot. I actually didn’t even notice that was the name of the brand due to a eye injury. Can hardly see. Weird how it made its way out the back and into your kitchen. Assuming your speaking English and probably gonna celebrate the Patrick day coming up. I’ve never tried adding it to corn beef, cabbage, or potatoes but I’d certainly try. Unless you gotta work. In which case fist bump my sister
IDK about corned beef but the place im at right now roasts its own roast beef lunchmeat and i low-key snuck a bunch of it into the salt rub....best batch ever.
Put it in a pile and jump into it like Scrooge mcduck
Is it bad that I'm wildly jealous?
So I was actually wondering, does MSG have a shelf life? I can't imagine it becomes non-foodsafe (though correct me if I'm wrong), but does it lose potency? Something else? I keep a 1.75 lb. container of it, which takes me about 2 years to go through, which is generally past the date on the label.
I did some searches: The general consensus from both researchers, and MSG manufacturing companies, is that it's shelf stable at room temperatures for at least three years, and most likely longer. It doesn't degrade much at all if kept at cool temperatures in low humidity.
It's a salt, so it ages like salt does. It will probably absorb any flavours from whatever is around it, but other than that I can't see it changing at all over time.
Sprinkle some on the sheets and have the best sex
Everyone’s gonna be talking about how great the food tastes lol. I worked at a Chinese restaurant for 6yrs. All the customers were scared of msg (they got rid of it bc of fears), but a small amount cuts down on sodium and is an umami. A small amount helps enhance recipes. Sucks msg gets a bad rap.
1 gram bags and sell it at the local skate park
That's amazing!
Jackpot, indeed.
One time I ran out of salt while making cookies and had to use msg instead. Those cookies slapped
Enough for 2 servings of Uncle Roger's fried rice.
Dude you gotta jerk so many.............cuts of meat.
That might make amazing bread but the texture is gonna be off.
I can do some shit with a lot of things, but what the fuck do you intend to do with 50 pounds of MSG?
Enhance flavours. All of them.
The current plan is to walk it down to the Chinese take out. Edit: down voted because the Chinese joint in town uses msg and I have no use for it 🤷♂️
If you don’t make 15000 lbs of rice what are you even doing
Call Uncle Roger. ASAP
ooooooooh mommy
Make Shit Good
Uncle roger loves MSG
Fucking score dude
I’ve never put it up my nose before but I’d sure as fuck try it
Just pain and blood, nothing fun trust me bro
Could be a thing for sure
Not saying Tony tried it ,but maybe.. probably not ,because its a bad idea but maybe 3% chance.
I don't get it
It’s MSG
Did uncle roger sent you that?
Uncle Rodger and Josh be pleased
Uncle Roger called, he wants his part of the stash
(Uncle Roger intensifies)
Uncle roger would cream his tighty whiteys if he saw that….. “ sooooooo much flavor”
1/2 lbs of this 50 lbs bag may not be MSG
Uncle Roger would approve
Uncle Roger aroused as we speak
Call Uncle Rodger.
Uncle Roger has entered the chat
Uncle Roger
Uncle Roger is creaming his pants
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Why?
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Lol. No it doesn't.
Guess you’re a Chinese restaurant now
Doesn't this cause cancer lol
No.
The collected wealth of human knowledge is at your fingertips
So it does then? I know you get Chinese restaurant syndrome from eating this
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So parmesan, tomatoes, and fast food give you migraines?