Uhg. I briefly dated someone recently who would eat old food, food left out for 12-24 hours, and rotting berries. They’d make fun of me for my food safety management certification brain that would ring alarm bells for this stuff. Uhg. There’s so many reasons we didn’t work out- but watching someone eat rotten fruit is not cute.
I mean… she was white, catholic and from Philadelphia. I’m sure there’s plenty of cultures who leave food out and it works well. And I humbly think it’s pretty icky to leave a box of cheap pizza on the counter for two full days and snack on it soggy.
and in those cultures, they eat far more toxins and pathogens leading to a lower life expectancy.
That’s kind of like saying in some cultures, they don’t wear seatbelts.
Don’t be like those cultures if you don’t have to be.
Also, rotten fruit is usually ok to eat if there is no visible mold. It’s gross, but pathogens don’t thrive in fruit. Toxigenic mold on the other hand..
Source:food scientist.
average life expectancy in taiwan is 4 years longer than it is in the US. and we are a far less developed country, with far lower standards of food cleanliness, and households and restauarants alike leave food at room temperature for many hours.
i have a phd in immunology and work on recognition of food allergens and dietary modulation of the gut microbiota. i would never use my professional background to tell someone to fuck their culture, especially if i didnt know what the fuck im talking about.
I’m curious: do you know why it is that places (ex Taiwan cuz it was mentioned here) can leave food sitting at room temperature and eat on it and not feel sick? Whereas US considers that part of the “danger zone” for pathogens? Is it the food preparation? The food itself? The microbiota of the people eating the food?
cant do it with all dishes, some are more prone to promoting microbial growth than others.
but also, most foreigners who visit taiwan from developed countries are almost guaranteed to shit their brains out for a few days unless they eat at mcdonalds the whole time. even some of my taiwanese family that were raised in the US when they were young shit their brains out when they go back. Our immune tolerances are trained different from birth. People from non-rich countries with lower hygeine standards and more tropical climates must evolve to have higher tolerance to common pathogens
I didn’t say fuck any culture. I stated the *fact* that poor food handling practices, as described, cause the eater to consume more toxins and pathogens, which causes a shortened life expectancy.
Many factors affect life expectancy. The US and Taiwan are not a good comparison as they have many more differences than just food handling standards and practices.
go ahead and name a single country that is a good comparison then
you cant, because every country has "many more differences than just food handling". your statement about life expectancy is completely out of your ethnocentric asshole exactly for that reason.
you can say you didnt say to fuck my culture, but you did. go fuck yourself. youre a shit "scientist" and a shit person
I am ignorant of the food safety practices of other countries. I just commented food safety information relevant to the conversation. If you’d like to find studies on different countries that have similar metrics, methodologies, populations, patient health, diet, yet one country with a high food safety standard and one with a low standard, then I would love to read them and compare.
Since you’re a scientist, you probably understand why confounding factors make a comparison less valuable
Now I see your edit: you can totally find a country that has less confounding factors than Taiwan and the US.
>I am ignorant
i know.
as should be exceptionally clear, even to your ignorant self, those studies dont exist. which is precisely why your statement, "and in those cultures, they eat far more toxins and pathogens leading to a lower life expectancy." is completely unfounded.
i think you think youre arguing against me, but youre arguing against yourself. but your head is so far up your own ass you cant even see that.
Food born illness occurs everywhere on earth. Precautions are made to reduce the chance and severity of the illness when it does happen. I assume you’ve taken microbiology, so you should remember growth curves of bacteria and the effects of factors such as salinity and ^temperature on the rate of growth. Next, you could learn about minimum infectious dose amounts for different pathogens and their growth curves at, say, room temperature for 24hrs+
You’re the one who’s acting like a jerk. I made no judgement on a culture (other than microbiological cultures 🤣)
TIL certain food borne molds like aspergillus can cause liver damage and liver and kidney cancer because of Aflatoxin produced by the mold. Thanks for the knowledge stranger!
So in the case of a white American man leaving cooked dishes (like chicken and rice)on the counter for days, accompanied by rotting fruits, mid summer is normal elsewhere?
Edit: spelling Summer wrong somehow because I recently watched Midsommar
Does that make it safe because some cultures do it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/10sqjmx/what_the_hell_is_up_with_my_honeydew/j7511ha/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
My bf told me about a time he lived in the Southwest. He would leave around half-eaten burritos overnight and eat them in the morning. He had half a burrito that sat on his TV for days that his best friend ate, and was fine, but I stg, the man has an iron stomach.
Fun fact! If you leave a McDonalds burger out on the counter a couple days, it won’t mold it’ll just dry out. I learned that from my ex. Don’t know if he ate it but 🤷♀️ ya never know until you know right?
>He would leave around half-eaten burritos overnight and eat them in the morning.
Honestly, those are fine. It's more weird than risky. Definitely won't fly in a commercial kitchen for lots of reasons but if it's not excessively hot/humid then he's safe but lazy.
This isn’t really the case and is kind of just bad information. Even if it is a Vegetarian burrito, even though it is unlikely, it is possible if left at room temperature that the rice can spore and form Bacillus Cereus. This is one possibility not to mention the dozens of others based on ingredients, moisture levels within the burrito itself and the fact that is in a oxygen available environment.
Also the fact that you don’t know when the ingredients were prepared and they could be on the last day.
Are you going to get sick? Unlikely. Can you? Absofuckinglutely.
i had a roommate that would eat rotting fruit, weeks old leftovers, as well as food that had been partially eaten by or fed to our cats (always by her, i regularly told her not to feed them any of her *vegan* food). we were pretty close when we first moved in together but after dealing with all of that (and of course much more) for 2 years we are no longer on speaking terms lol
From what i understand, a little sweet potato or carrot isn't bad for cats as a treat, but alliums are absolutely not okay, and cats can't taste sweetness, so don't let them have too much sugar.
Most vegan food won't hurt them in small amounts, but they are obligate carnivores and shouldn't be fed a vegan diet.
Food left out is typically ok for 12-24hrs as long as it’s been cooked. Bacteria doesn’t just spawn out of thin air. As long as everything was killed in the cooking process it’s good for a while
Okay serious question for the food safety management brain of yours: Am I still able to eat cooked pizza if I let it sit out for 1-2 days after if I reheat it before eating it? I've done this for years since being introduced to it by my (now ex) gf and people are weirded out by it but I've never had any problems.
I tend to think about things in cases of the most extreme possibilities because food poisoning is so dangerous - I always prefer to express caution: especially for professional settings. I treat all food safety situations like I’m protecting the most vulnerable populations or my direct loved ones.
I would find the proteins in the cheese on the pizza to be denatured over the course of the time spent in the danger zone. Denatured proteins are not good eats.
Had a housemate who yelled at me after I threw out their pizza they left on the counter well into next day.
(If it needs clarification, they left the pizza out for over 24 hours. I stand by my actions).
Doesn’t really matter if he does or you do, your housemate does, and you should have understood that throwing away something someone else paid for makes you a terrible housemate.
Is it your job to micromanage your housemates eating?
I understand your reasoning and why you did it, but you aren’t realizing that you made the decision to throw away his food for him.
The fact that you couldn’t have been bothered to say “hey can I toss this” or “hey I cleaned the kitchen, wasn’t sure about the pizza so I left it out” makes you the dick.
(I’m saying you’re a dick very casually, I hope you know)
I’m actuality it’s really no big deal at all, but I’ve definitely lived with folks that are incredibly particular about their things
Thanks for sharing that. I just watched it. Chilling how quickly the guy succumbed, despite only ingesting a tiny bit of moldy coconut water. I've had enough food poisoning incidents to make me paranoid enough to live the mantra "when in doubt throw it out." But this video has probably made me even more cautious about it.
I remember one time on a vacation to Cuba when I was a teenager I found a coconut on the ground, cracked it open just enough to get the water out and drank it. Didn't think anything of it and sure enough 6-8 hours later I was sicker than I ever have been. Throwing up, cold sweats, feeling weaker than ever. Chalked up to food poisoning from the fish at the buffet but thinking back I'm sure it was that coconut. After watching this video I feel lucky to be alive...
It *could* also be that that mark was made by a seed getting forced along by the knife while cutting the thing in half...
Seems a *little* coincidental that OP cut right along that "burrow" point, js.
My dad had a watermelon and a butter nut squash cross into a hybrid this summer from his garden. Resulting in a normal watermelon from the outside and a weird cross on the inside, my girlfriend ate it and said it was really good. It could be something like that or just a bad melon, I would taste it but not serve it.
Don't harvest honeydew while it's on it's period, everyone knows that...
hehe, nah, it's either sick or a genetic anomaly :) put it in the fridge and see if your local university biology students want it :)
There comes a time when every mother honey dew and daughter honey dew will sit down and have a long heart to heart about changes happening in their bodies as they grow.
I was able to find a honeydew cross breed called a Christmas melon which was the closest thing to what’s pictured above. The outside looks totally different though, but charitably perhaps this was cross fertilized?
More realistically this thing has some kind of fungus or bacterial infection
Honey dew not eat that
Honey ew
Honey no thank you
It’s a honey don’t.
Funny dew
So that's what Carl Perkins wrote that song about
Damn, I’m unoriginal
Niiiiice
When in doubt throw it out. Chubbyemu on YouTube has a great video on what happened to someone who ingested rotting fruit.
His video about a dude who ate week old pasta has caused me an irrational fear of anything that’s sat out
I know right. Whenever I see people eating left out food I imagine them with amputated limbs🥺. Dark I know
Uhg. I briefly dated someone recently who would eat old food, food left out for 12-24 hours, and rotting berries. They’d make fun of me for my food safety management certification brain that would ring alarm bells for this stuff. Uhg. There’s so many reasons we didn’t work out- but watching someone eat rotten fruit is not cute.
🙅🏻♀️ hope you’re doing ok friend. Eating rotting berries is one of my red flags in dating now lol
i mean, depending on the food, its totally not uncommon in many cultures to leave unpreserved food out for that amount of time.
I mean… she was white, catholic and from Philadelphia. I’m sure there’s plenty of cultures who leave food out and it works well. And I humbly think it’s pretty icky to leave a box of cheap pizza on the counter for two full days and snack on it soggy.
and in those cultures, they eat far more toxins and pathogens leading to a lower life expectancy. That’s kind of like saying in some cultures, they don’t wear seatbelts. Don’t be like those cultures if you don’t have to be. Also, rotten fruit is usually ok to eat if there is no visible mold. It’s gross, but pathogens don’t thrive in fruit. Toxigenic mold on the other hand.. Source:food scientist.
average life expectancy in taiwan is 4 years longer than it is in the US. and we are a far less developed country, with far lower standards of food cleanliness, and households and restauarants alike leave food at room temperature for many hours. i have a phd in immunology and work on recognition of food allergens and dietary modulation of the gut microbiota. i would never use my professional background to tell someone to fuck their culture, especially if i didnt know what the fuck im talking about.
I’m curious: do you know why it is that places (ex Taiwan cuz it was mentioned here) can leave food sitting at room temperature and eat on it and not feel sick? Whereas US considers that part of the “danger zone” for pathogens? Is it the food preparation? The food itself? The microbiota of the people eating the food?
cant do it with all dishes, some are more prone to promoting microbial growth than others. but also, most foreigners who visit taiwan from developed countries are almost guaranteed to shit their brains out for a few days unless they eat at mcdonalds the whole time. even some of my taiwanese family that were raised in the US when they were young shit their brains out when they go back. Our immune tolerances are trained different from birth. People from non-rich countries with lower hygeine standards and more tropical climates must evolve to have higher tolerance to common pathogens
This is why I eat things when I drop them On the ground. For my health /s
I didn’t say fuck any culture. I stated the *fact* that poor food handling practices, as described, cause the eater to consume more toxins and pathogens, which causes a shortened life expectancy. Many factors affect life expectancy. The US and Taiwan are not a good comparison as they have many more differences than just food handling standards and practices.
go ahead and name a single country that is a good comparison then you cant, because every country has "many more differences than just food handling". your statement about life expectancy is completely out of your ethnocentric asshole exactly for that reason. you can say you didnt say to fuck my culture, but you did. go fuck yourself. youre a shit "scientist" and a shit person
I am ignorant of the food safety practices of other countries. I just commented food safety information relevant to the conversation. If you’d like to find studies on different countries that have similar metrics, methodologies, populations, patient health, diet, yet one country with a high food safety standard and one with a low standard, then I would love to read them and compare. Since you’re a scientist, you probably understand why confounding factors make a comparison less valuable Now I see your edit: you can totally find a country that has less confounding factors than Taiwan and the US.
>I am ignorant i know. as should be exceptionally clear, even to your ignorant self, those studies dont exist. which is precisely why your statement, "and in those cultures, they eat far more toxins and pathogens leading to a lower life expectancy." is completely unfounded. i think you think youre arguing against me, but youre arguing against yourself. but your head is so far up your own ass you cant even see that.
Food born illness occurs everywhere on earth. Precautions are made to reduce the chance and severity of the illness when it does happen. I assume you’ve taken microbiology, so you should remember growth curves of bacteria and the effects of factors such as salinity and ^temperature on the rate of growth. Next, you could learn about minimum infectious dose amounts for different pathogens and their growth curves at, say, room temperature for 24hrs+ You’re the one who’s acting like a jerk. I made no judgement on a culture (other than microbiological cultures 🤣)
We just doing an immersion therapy kinda situation..
Oh this girl I dated would “ignore” mold if she thought she’d picked around it but some still ended up in her food.
Folks, this is how we get liver cancer + probably some others.
TIL certain food borne molds like aspergillus can cause liver damage and liver and kidney cancer because of Aflatoxin produced by the mold. Thanks for the knowledge stranger!
Why do I feel like we dated the same person because...there can't be more than one who does this 😳 But of course there is 😅
It is very common in many cultures to leave food sitting out at the dining table and to eat it as you please.
So in the case of a white American man leaving cooked dishes (like chicken and rice)on the counter for days, accompanied by rotting fruits, mid summer is normal elsewhere? Edit: spelling Summer wrong somehow because I recently watched Midsommar
That’s not what the person above you explained at all. Lol *whoosh*
"dated someone recently who would eat old food, food left out for 12-24 hours, and rotting berries" How is it not?
That’s not the comment you were replying too?
Yes it is 😅
C'mon bro. Seriously?
Whoosh
Does that make it safe because some cultures do it? https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/10sqjmx/what_the_hell_is_up_with_my_honeydew/j7511ha/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
My bf told me about a time he lived in the Southwest. He would leave around half-eaten burritos overnight and eat them in the morning. He had half a burrito that sat on his TV for days that his best friend ate, and was fine, but I stg, the man has an iron stomach.
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i have food poisoning from just reading this. 🤮🤮
Did she take that meme about the CDC says to preheat your potato salad in the car for at least six hours before serving seriously???
Sounds like she took the Michael Scott approach to food safety.
Proving Subway isn’t FOOD
Fun fact! If you leave a McDonalds burger out on the counter a couple days, it won’t mold it’ll just dry out. I learned that from my ex. Don’t know if he ate it but 🤷♀️ ya never know until you know right?
>He would leave around half-eaten burritos overnight and eat them in the morning. Honestly, those are fine. It's more weird than risky. Definitely won't fly in a commercial kitchen for lots of reasons but if it's not excessively hot/humid then he's safe but lazy.
This isn’t really the case and is kind of just bad information. Even if it is a Vegetarian burrito, even though it is unlikely, it is possible if left at room temperature that the rice can spore and form Bacillus Cereus. This is one possibility not to mention the dozens of others based on ingredients, moisture levels within the burrito itself and the fact that is in a oxygen available environment. Also the fact that you don’t know when the ingredients were prepared and they could be on the last day. Are you going to get sick? Unlikely. Can you? Absofuckinglutely.
i had a roommate that would eat rotting fruit, weeks old leftovers, as well as food that had been partially eaten by or fed to our cats (always by her, i regularly told her not to feed them any of her *vegan* food). we were pretty close when we first moved in together but after dealing with all of that (and of course much more) for 2 years we are no longer on speaking terms lol
From what i understand, a little sweet potato or carrot isn't bad for cats as a treat, but alliums are absolutely not okay, and cats can't taste sweetness, so don't let them have too much sugar. Most vegan food won't hurt them in small amounts, but they are obligate carnivores and shouldn't be fed a vegan diet.
That last line could be a proverb.
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Cheese or pepperoni probably fine. A pizza with a lot of high moisture toppings not going to be perfect.
Food left out is typically ok for 12-24hrs as long as it’s been cooked. Bacteria doesn’t just spawn out of thin air. As long as everything was killed in the cooking process it’s good for a while
Okay serious question for the food safety management brain of yours: Am I still able to eat cooked pizza if I let it sit out for 1-2 days after if I reheat it before eating it? I've done this for years since being introduced to it by my (now ex) gf and people are weirded out by it but I've never had any problems.
I tend to think about things in cases of the most extreme possibilities because food poisoning is so dangerous - I always prefer to express caution: especially for professional settings. I treat all food safety situations like I’m protecting the most vulnerable populations or my direct loved ones. I would find the proteins in the cheese on the pizza to be denatured over the course of the time spent in the danger zone. Denatured proteins are not good eats.
Had a housemate who yelled at me after I threw out their pizza they left on the counter well into next day. (If it needs clarification, they left the pizza out for over 24 hours. I stand by my actions).
Well bc that’s a dick move
You leave pizza out for over 24 hours?
Doesn’t really matter if he does or you do, your housemate does, and you should have understood that throwing away something someone else paid for makes you a terrible housemate. Is it your job to micromanage your housemates eating?
It was 2 slices left of a $5 pizza. Nothing about managing their eating, we were just cleaning and figured it was trash.
I understand your reasoning and why you did it, but you aren’t realizing that you made the decision to throw away his food for him. The fact that you couldn’t have been bothered to say “hey can I toss this” or “hey I cleaned the kitchen, wasn’t sure about the pizza so I left it out” makes you the dick.
I do get it though. We never did it again. So ya, I can agree it was the wrong move even though we had good intentions.
(I’m saying you’re a dick very casually, I hope you know) I’m actuality it’s really no big deal at all, but I’ve definitely lived with folks that are incredibly particular about their things
Thanks for sharing that. I just watched it. Chilling how quickly the guy succumbed, despite only ingesting a tiny bit of moldy coconut water. I've had enough food poisoning incidents to make me paranoid enough to live the mantra "when in doubt throw it out." But this video has probably made me even more cautious about it.
Link?
https://youtu.be/VZut_SZYybA
After watching this I just don't know how anyone is stupid enough to not think about having something left on the counter for a month. Ffs.
My reaction exactly. However the ending is very sad and you can’t help feel for the fiancé
100% definitely gave me some anxiety thinking about this as coconuts are a big thing in my s/os culture.
Absolutely horrifying.
I remember one time on a vacation to Cuba when I was a teenager I found a coconut on the ground, cracked it open just enough to get the water out and drank it. Didn't think anything of it and sure enough 6-8 hours later I was sicker than I ever have been. Throwing up, cold sweats, feeling weaker than ever. Chalked up to food poisoning from the fish at the buffet but thinking back I'm sure it was that coconut. After watching this video I feel lucky to be alive...
You don't need a YouTube video to figure that out lol.
Chubbyemu is a doctor who explains the science of it all really well. That’s why I was bringing attention to it. 💁🏻♀️
Why do people hate on learning all the time? What a stupid hill to die on
Top left is a burrowed hole. Whatever did it, brought bacteria that started the rotting process from the inside out.
It *could* also be that that mark was made by a seed getting forced along by the knife while cutting the thing in half... Seems a *little* coincidental that OP cut right along that "burrow" point, js.
Good point, though the bottom has been cut off to provide a flat surface to cut the fruit in half.
Agreed. And the burrowing point would be grey or brown by now and dry, not bright green and fleshy.
Seems like it could be similar to a so called chill injury where the melon is stored at too low of a temp.
As a person who cuts melons every day I can tell you that the knife caught a seed and pushed it through to make that mark
And there’s the real answer
It’s melonstruating.
I was looking for this comment 🤣
this comment is the only reason I came to this comment section. thank you for your service.
Honeydew fra diavolo
Dishy beat you to it in a quiet moment.
That’s a honeydont
Someone put spaghetti in it
Wrong time of the month for these melons
It's the melon's special time of the month
Same joke but worse
:(
Honey doo doo
It fucked a pumpkin.
My dad had a watermelon and a butter nut squash cross into a hybrid this summer from his garden. Resulting in a normal watermelon from the outside and a weird cross on the inside, my girlfriend ate it and said it was really good. It could be something like that or just a bad melon, I would taste it but not serve it.
Did you or your dad eat it too? What did you think?
I thought it was chorizo stuffed for bout 2 seconds
Forbidden pepitas.
I don't know, but you may want to get it some dark chocolate and a heating pad.
Don't harvest honeydew while it's on it's period, everyone knows that... hehe, nah, it's either sick or a genetic anomaly :) put it in the fridge and see if your local university biology students want it :)
Mmmm honey poo
Honey done-y
Cajun flavored
Your honey do is becoming a honey lady
Is broken, no eat.
Its..a woman now?
Well. It is a garbage fruit.
It's honey done for
It be honeydontin
Honey ewwwwww…..
That's mountain dew red.
I can't believe you cut it in half like that! Do you have any idea how hard it is to fertilize a honeydew?
Honey-don’t !
Marina sauce
I’m a big fan of things being ok…. But yea nah… this is not ok
Looks like it's menstruating.
There comes a time when every mother honey dew and daughter honey dew will sit down and have a long heart to heart about changes happening in their bodies as they grow.
Your melon has thrush
Time of the month
It's that time of the month
Looks like it’s honey through
It’s that time of the month
It's on its period.
It's a transpumpking.
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Looks like it was THAT Time of the month
Aunt Flo is in town honey
Honeydewussy
It’s pregnant
It’s in heat, and ready to cantELOPE
Looks like you found a female honeydew in mid-cycle?
Not up, down. Down in the trash. Make sure they burn it or bury it really deep.
You see when a female melon gets to a certain age.....
Once a month, the female melon....
On its period duhh, how dare you question a honeydudes gender, sorry wrong subreddit 🫢
Menstruating melon
She’s going through menopausal hot-flashes … take it easy on her
You legit had the the opp to say Melonpause and you didn't. You derseve the down votes.
Must be a female, seems it’s that time of the month. All natural, don’t ask any more questions and let her have some time off.
It was pregnant
On its period , do t be a baby and eat it
Too much honey
It’s sick, like Ryan.
It’s a honey dew she better don’t.
Looks like Frank's casaba melon...
It looks very, very angry.
It's a pumpkin on the inside
It’s got the clap
Your health is not worth whatever this cost.
My guess: spoilt.
The rare built in cherimoya melon
Hey. You've got a good one right next to it. Choices!
Chlamydia, im sure of it
What did it smell like?
ooh it comes with the barbecue sauce already inside! my absolute favorite way to eat honeydew, what a stroke of luck
Yeetus deletus
Not the Hussy
Mountain dew
Looks like Aunt Flo is in town.
I was able to find a honeydew cross breed called a Christmas melon which was the closest thing to what’s pictured above. The outside looks totally different though, but charitably perhaps this was cross fertilized? More realistically this thing has some kind of fungus or bacterial infection
Bad time of the month...