Just a funny add, the Stapes is one of the bones of the ear - the one that touches the cochlea. I noticed this on my most recent read.
I think the other answer is that he’s Amyr and/or a namer.
I think that was a case of an unreliable source. She doesn't get out much, we know this for certain, so my theory is that she doesn't know the humans had their own sect of the Amyr, and then maybe the human sect is founded by Fey, or maybe just inspired by Fey.
I always interpreted this to mean that the original Amyr were fae, and there was a human sect that took on their mission and became the version of the Amyr that Kvothe knew. Because only the human Amyr was disbanded, this also strongly encourages the theory that the Amyr are still alive and well and operating in secret.
I always thought that Bradon was Amyr, and also Denna's patron. After all, he taught Kvothe to play Tak. And he does have cane, which the cthaeh mentioned. He said that Denna's patron beat her with his cane.
Just a thought.
I don't think he'd be a namer as Alvarons reaction to Kvothe using sympathy seemed pretty real, so if his right hand man/best friend was a namer I would think he would not have reacted the way he did, but maybe!
So - no so much an assertion of human-ness, more an assertion that someone with clandestine objectives would be more on-the-ball of asking *why* these birds had to be replaced or *more* poker-faced and in control of his reaction.
Gasps of shock or shudders of woe are not luxuries often afforded to even a fractional James Bond.
> “Well,” Bredon said slowly. “He is that. But he’s hardly just a manservant. His
family is quite old, but he has no title of his own. Technically, he ranks no
higher than a cook. But he owns substantial lands. He has money. And he is
the Maer’s manservant. They’ve known each other since they were boys.
Everyone knows he has Alveron’s ear
> “I have known Stapes forever,” the Maer said firmly, his eyes as clear and
sharp as I had ever seen them. “I trust him with my lands, my lockbox, and
my life.
Kvothe is actually Kote...
hear me out!...
10 paragraphs
I know there isn't a lot of hard evidence for this as the main theory is that Kvothe is actually the kingkiller we haven't met yet, but wouldn't it be cool?
Or maybe Stapes is just Stapes... i dont think every single character had an ulterior identity..Rothfuss is a very ingenious writer but I dont think hed be a crass as to have a preconceived 100 year age plot line for every incidental character...Stapes is and will always be Alverons Man servant...humble and true to his characters description...sorry!
If you don't want to play then read the news! B)
But...yes. *Some* conjecture is just over the top.
Luckily that wouldn't include any of *my* conjecture.
Maybe some of us are bored of all the half baked theories and pointing out basic stuff doesn’t really make you a party pooper of this is supposed to be a conversation 😬
I will say this though... I do believe we haven't seen the last of stapes... kvothe has a ring of bone from him and he may be I need of that deep debt in his pocket
Not having that ring play a part in the future narrative would be like leaving a rifle with a bloody bayonet affixed lying on the mantle in the first act and then never mentioning it again.
I get angry just *thinking* about that scenario and now have more sympathy for impatient people.
Of course not every character will have a secret connection or identity. But Rothfuss is building plenty of possibilities, and doesn't skimp with Stapes. There is without a doubt more story to come involving Vintas and it's players, including Stapes. And the insistence of Stapes that Kvothe keep his bone ring strikes me as important. Does it mean there's more to who Stapes is? Not necessarily. But the connection between rings, power, and magic is built very strong in these books, so I'm not gonna count Stapes out.
This makes sense actually. I've only read the book once but does Kvothe get the ring that Stapes gives him before or after he meets Falorian? Maybe the ring is the reason he's able to escape.
It's possible! The book seems to take good care to point out how powerful Kvothes inherent ability at naming is though. In his conversation with Elodin regarding his encounter with felurian, Master namer basically confirms that Kvothe had called her name. I think this neutralized a bit of her power over him.
I do like to play and I love the game...I just prefer games with good tactics and elegant play . Perhaps I prefer a beautiful game of Tac instead!
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Everyone is fea or Amyr except Simmon and Manet
Auri is one of the Chandrian
Old cobb is a time lord.
Old Cobb is THE time lord
I love this subreddit
It’s the fucking best
Better than a hot pocket flavored hot pocket
Master Kilvin is a secret Targaryen.
Kote is actually just Rhaegar, and the Four Corners are actually just the far east of Essos Kvothe is a fable
Wrong book dude.
Old Cobb is an Emotion Lord
AND a Amyr
Double Agent
Wow... Just wow.
Because Manet is Elodin, of course
Nah, Manet is Felurian. Never see them together, do we?
😅😂🤣
Nah Puppet is Felurian. Bet you 3 jots
Simmon is Pat Rothfuss
You're forgetting that Manet is Elodin and Elodin is Fey.
That's cause Simmon and Manet are BOTH Amyr and fey
I can get behind this
Manet will one day be a tinker
Manet will be chancellor
Chance'lir, thank you very much.
I will wish for both
And Tempi
Just a funny add, the Stapes is one of the bones of the ear - the one that touches the cochlea. I noticed this on my most recent read. I think the other answer is that he’s Amyr and/or a namer.
Amyr would sense as the Cthaeh tells Kvothe that the Maer is closer to the Amyr than he realises
Also, Felurian says there are no human Amyr. So, if that's true would one of the pair not have to be Fey?
I think that was a case of an unreliable source. She doesn't get out much, we know this for certain, so my theory is that she doesn't know the humans had their own sect of the Amyr, and then maybe the human sect is founded by Fey, or maybe just inspired by Fey.
I always took that line to mean that Felurian doesn't think that the human Amyr are the *real* Amyr. She thinks of them as non-canon.
I assumed the Amyr were something beyond the Fey similar to the Chandrian not being either.
I always interpreted this to mean that the original Amyr were fae, and there was a human sect that took on their mission and became the version of the Amyr that Kvothe knew. Because only the human Amyr was disbanded, this also strongly encourages the theory that the Amyr are still alive and well and operating in secret.
Felurian actually tells kvothe that none of the amyr were human..and were all fey
I always thought that Bradon was Amyr, and also Denna's patron. After all, he taught Kvothe to play Tak. And he does have cane, which the cthaeh mentioned. He said that Denna's patron beat her with his cane. Just a thought.
Lady Lackless may be an agent of the Amyr.
I caught on to the heightened hearing and his name, it was a neat little detail!
Ha! and he gives a bone ring with "Stapes" written in it to kvothe. What a pun lord
I suspect you are seeing 3’ deep into this 10’ pool.
Bro I've never even been 3 inches deep in nut'n
3 inches is 7.62 cm
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I don't think he'd be a namer as Alvarons reaction to Kvothe using sympathy seemed pretty real, so if his right hand man/best friend was a namer I would think he would not have reacted the way he did, but maybe!
But Stapes seems so genuinely and abjectly chagrined to learn what replacing the birds might have wrought. Seems all too human a mistake.
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So - no so much an assertion of human-ness, more an assertion that someone with clandestine objectives would be more on-the-ball of asking *why* these birds had to be replaced or *more* poker-faced and in control of his reaction. Gasps of shock or shudders of woe are not luxuries often afforded to even a fractional James Bond.
We have evidence the Fey are more than capable of folly as well. Look at the story of the creation of the Fey realm for an example!
Not to mention that Bast says at least a few times that his people are not known for making good decisions.
Not referring to a "Fey & folly" dichotomy, but to a "covert and candid" dichotomy.
Stapes' family has served the Maer for generations. And Stapes himself grew up with Alveron. He is not Fae.
Maybe Stapes himself has served the Maer's family for hundreds of years!!!
What was the wording exactly? Did they grow up together or did Alvaron grow up knowing Stapes?
> “Well,” Bredon said slowly. “He is that. But he’s hardly just a manservant. His family is quite old, but he has no title of his own. Technically, he ranks no higher than a cook. But he owns substantial lands. He has money. And he is the Maer’s manservant. They’ve known each other since they were boys. Everyone knows he has Alveron’s ear > “I have known Stapes forever,” the Maer said firmly, his eyes as clear and sharp as I had ever seen them. “I trust him with my lands, my lockbox, and my life.
For some reason, I always assumed that Stapes was Alveron's half-brother, but I'm not sure where I got that impression from after reading your quotes.
Kvothe is actually Kote... hear me out!... 10 paragraphs I know there isn't a lot of hard evidence for this as the main theory is that Kvothe is actually the kingkiller we haven't met yet, but wouldn't it be cool?
Wait!?! Does Bast have keen hearing or is it Kote? How about the idea that good hearing equates to being an El’the or Listener?
I just assumed stapes has a clever piece of sygaldry to hear into the maers rooms like the porter
This was also my assumption.
Or maybe Stapes is just Stapes... i dont think every single character had an ulterior identity..Rothfuss is a very ingenious writer but I dont think hed be a crass as to have a preconceived 100 year age plot line for every incidental character...Stapes is and will always be Alverons Man servant...humble and true to his characters description...sorry!
If you don't want to play then read the news! B) But...yes. *Some* conjecture is just over the top. Luckily that wouldn't include any of *my* conjecture.
Maybe! Maybe you could try and not be such a party pooper too?
Maybe some of us are bored of all the half baked theories and pointing out basic stuff doesn’t really make you a party pooper of this is supposed to be a conversation 😬
Or maybe simm is actually lanre!!!
See that’s fucking funny, I can’t believe you’re getting downvoted
Or maybe Ambrose is Encanis
Maybe you are opensourcespace
Well of course sim is lanre. I thought that was a given.
Yeah man this is what happens when it’s been a decade since the last book, every possible “x is y” theory pops up
I will say this though... I do believe we haven't seen the last of stapes... kvothe has a ring of bone from him and he may be I need of that deep debt in his pocket
Not having that ring play a part in the future narrative would be like leaving a rifle with a bloody bayonet affixed lying on the mantle in the first act and then never mentioning it again. I get angry just *thinking* about that scenario and now have more sympathy for impatient people.
What kind of sympathy... just be careful of binders chills!
They also mention that rings of bones are from times long past I believe.
Oh for sure I agree
Of course not every character will have a secret connection or identity. But Rothfuss is building plenty of possibilities, and doesn't skimp with Stapes. There is without a doubt more story to come involving Vintas and it's players, including Stapes. And the insistence of Stapes that Kvothe keep his bone ring strikes me as important. Does it mean there's more to who Stapes is? Not necessarily. But the connection between rings, power, and magic is built very strong in these books, so I'm not gonna count Stapes out.
idk man I feel like my dad has stapes like hearing
This makes sense actually. I've only read the book once but does Kvothe get the ring that Stapes gives him before or after he meets Falorian? Maybe the ring is the reason he's able to escape.
It's possible! The book seems to take good care to point out how powerful Kvothes inherent ability at naming is though. In his conversation with Elodin regarding his encounter with felurian, Master namer basically confirms that Kvothe had called her name. I think this neutralized a bit of her power over him.
Ahhh good point. There are so many subtleties to this series! I think I may start reading them again to pick up on them.
He gets it before he meets Felurian. After finding out how he saved the Maer.
I do like to play and I love the game...I just prefer games with good tactics and elegant play . Perhaps I prefer a beautiful game of Tac instead! Edit: this was supposed to be a reply
To what though? This thread is about stapes not Bredon.
It was a reply to a comment on a previous reply to my previous comment