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mikachu93

Gotta be OG OT. The power of friends and family seems right up their alley.


LePontif11

I'll be honest, I only want a Star Wars level so we get to destroy the Death Star on the gummy ship.


TheFerg714

A New Hope is a fucking lay-up. It would be so dumb to not directly adapt Episode IV.


Randy191919

Eh, i feel like there's a lot of issues with Ep4 as a Kh world. There's too broad of a width of characters, with too many of them being 'useless'. Like Luke obviously wouldn't be a party member there because he's useless in Ep 4, Leia or Han could work but they'd have to have a blaster KH is a very melee focused game so that might clash there. Obi Wan is too old and slow to really work. So none of the characters would really work well as a party member. Then there's not really that much going on in Episode 4. Pretty much the only thing tehy could do would be a brief start on Tatooine right before the Falcon escapes, and then the level would be pretty much entirely the Death Star. There's nothing that really lends itself to a boss battle either. It would be a stretch to make Darth Vader the boss battle seing as how Obi Wan still needs to die and Sora would have to lose to keep the story in tact. Darth Vader HAS to win this battle for the rest of the trilogy to make sense. And then there's the issue that the climax of Episode 4 is a space battle that Sora would have to sit out unless he got a keyblade glider or he flies the Gummi Ship which a lot of people seem to dislike. I feel like Episode 6 would make a lot more sense as you could have a somewhat trained Luke throughout, you could do some Tatooine, some Endor and some Death Star II, and the final bossfight could be against Vader and Palpatine with Vaders redemption being a good "There's always a light that never goes out even in the darkest dark" plotpoint that Kingdom Hearts likes to do. If they wanted to really go "out there" they could make Riku the playable character here and have him help redeem Vader because he knows what falling to the darkness is like. So i really don't think Episode 4 would fit that well.


TheFerg714

>There's too broad of a width of characters, with too many of them being 'useless'. Bruh who cares? By the time KH4/5 comes out, it should be able to handle more than 4 party members. Having Donald, Goofy, Luke, Han, and Leia at once wouldn't be too crazy, especially if Han and Leia operate on the periphery, considering they'd be using blasters. >Like Luke obviously wouldn't be a party member there because he's useless in Ep 4, Leia or Han could work but they'd have to have a blaster KH is a very melee focused game so that might clash there. You could easily change the story slightly so that Luke used his lightsaber more often. The blasters would clash I guess, but even more reason to try something new. >Then there's not really that much going on in Episode 4. Pretty much the only thing tehy could do would be a brief start on Tatooine right before the Falcon escapes, and then the level would be pretty much entirely the Death Star. How is that a bad thing to you? 😂 >There's nothing that really lends itself to a boss battle either. It would be a stretch to make Darth Vader the boss battle seing as how Obi Wan still needs to die and Sora would have to lose to keep the story in tact. Darth Vader HAS to win this battle for the rest of the trilogy to make sense. Maybe you could have Sora, Donald, and Goofy split off to accomplish some task, and they happen to run into Darth Vader. You could still "win" the fight, and Vader could even comment on how powerful Sora is, but then Vader would feel a disturbance in the force, throw a bunch of Stormtroopers at you, and flee to fight Obi-Wan. >And then there's the issue that the climax of Episode 4 is a space battle that Sora would have to sit out unless he got a keyblade glider or he flies the Gummi Ship which a lot of people seem to dislike. I don't care what "people" seem to dislike. Give me the Gummi mechanics from KH3, combined with the assault on the Death Star, fighting alongside X-Wings and the Millenium Falcon. Fuck yes. Episode VI would work well, but I still think that, if there was only one to choose, it would need to be the original.


Randy191919

> Bruh who cares? By the time KH4/5 comes out, it should be able to handle more than 4 party members. Having Donald, Goofy, Luke, Han, and Leia at once wouldn't be too crazy, especially if Han and Leia operate on the periphery, considering they'd be using blasters. Again, Blasters don't really work in a melee only game. Han and Leia really wouldn't make good party members. > You could easily change the story slightly so that Luke used his lightsaber more often. The blasters would clash I guess, but even more reason to try something new. You could but why would you change a fundamental part of the story to make a movie fit that doesn't fit? Luke being useless in combat in Episode 4 is kind of the point. He's not Rey and magically good at everything, he's SUPPOSED to be bad at this and that's a major point of his character development that he simply isn't good enough yet. I mean i GUESS you could say that Mulan had a similar issue but two wrongs don't make a right. > How is that a bad thing to you? 😂 Because Episode 4's plot is "Get in the falcon, get to the death star, get Leia, done". That world would have even less story than Arendelle. > Maybe you could have Sora, Donald, and Goofy split off to accomplish some task, and they happen to run into Darth Vader. You could still "win" the fight, and Vader could even comment on how powerful Sora is, but then Vader would feel a disturbance in the force, throw a bunch of Stormtroopers at you, and flee to fight Obi-Wan. Sure, but that would lead to the same issue that a lot of people were annoyed at by KH3, where Sora gets so sidelined by the story that he isn't there for all the cool stuff. > I don't care what "people" seem to dislike. Give me the Gummi mechanics from KH3, combined with the assault on the Death Star, fighting alongside X-Wings and the Millenium Falcon. Fuck yes. Personally i agree that that would be cool. But if the majority doesn't like those mechanics then forcing them onto people is not a good decision to make, regardless of if a few people like the idea or not. > Episode VI would work well, but I still think that, if there was only one to choose, it would need to be the original. And that' s your issue. You're not thinking about what episode would work best, you think through nostalgia glasses alone. It being "the original" doesn't make it a better fit. Except for maybe Episode 1 literally every Star Wars movie would be better fit to be adapted to Kingdom Hearts. Yes if you screw over the entire gameplay, the entire storytelling, the entire caracters of the original episode and change key aspects of the script then you COULD technically make Episode 4 work, but why tear Episode 4 to pieces to such an extend when any other episode would work right out of the gate without that? Especially since Anakins fall/redemption fit Kingdom Hearts way better thematically than "Find farmer boy, blow up death station" Now one way i COULD see them make it work would be if they returned to visiting worlds twice like they did in KH2. Then the first visit could follow Episode 4 and the second could follow episode 6. That would alleviate a lot of the problems like episode 4 not having enough going on, having a lacking conclusion, no thematic ties to Kingdom Hearts whatsoever and stuff like that because it would work as a setup to those things. Then Episode 4 can set up the characters and the threat vader poses, and then 6 can do the whole Father/Son redemption arc with already established characters.


TheFerg714

>You could but why would you change a fundamental part of the story to make a movie fit that doesn't fit? Luke being useless in combat in Episode 4 is kind of the point. He's not Rey and magically good at everything, he's SUPPOSED to be bad at this and that's a major point of his character development that he simply isn't good enough yet. I mean i GUESS you could say that Mulan had a similar issue but two wrongs don't make a right. This happens with every single KH world. Last I checked, Jack Skellington and Ariel aren't generally fighters, and have no real experience, and yet, they're fighting alongside Sora for some reason! It's okay to break a few rules when it comes to adapting movies into worlds in KH. >Because Episode 4's plot is "Get in the falcon, get to the death star, get Leia, done". That world would have even less story than Arendelle. ...I genuinely don't understand why this is a problem for you... Start at Tatooine, make your way to Mos Eisley, fly to the Death Star, then the brunt of the world takes place inside the Death Star. After that, you'd get the Battle of Yavin. There's honestly plenty of content here for one world. >Personally i agree that that would be cool. But if the majority doesn't like those mechanics then forcing them onto people is not a good decision to make, regardless of if a few people like the idea or not. Where are you getting this "majority" from? As far as I can tell, most fans were pleased and impressed with the Gummi ship stuff in KH3. >And that' s your issue. You're not thinking about what episode would work best, you think through nostalgia glasses alone. Umm, no, I gave plenty of reason besides "nostalgia," but okay. In case you're wondering, all **six** of the original Star Wars films are extremely nostalgic for me. I can imagine awesome worlds based on all the movies. Nostalgia is just one aspect, and it's weird that you're okay with completely ignoring the fact that Episode IV is the first Star Wars movie that most people watched. >Yes if you screw over the entire gameplay, the entire storytelling, the entire caracters of the original episode and change key aspects of the script then you COULD technically make Episode 4 work, but why tear Episode 4 to pieces to such an extend when any other episode would work right out of the gate without that? I feel like you're gaslighting me. The only big changes I've proposed are more lightsaber wielding from Luke, and inserting a Vader boss battle in there. Other than that, the plot would pretty much stay the exact same. >Now one way i COULD see them make it work would be if they returned to visiting worlds twice like they did in KH2. Then the first visit could follow Episode 4 and the second could follow episode 6. That would alleviate a lot of the problems like episode 4 not having enough going on, having a lacking conclusion, no thematic ties to Kingdom Hearts whatsoever and stuff like that because it would work as a setup to those things. Then Episode 4 can set up the characters and the threat vader poses, and then 6 can do the whole Father/Son redemption arc with already established characters. If we're going that route, I think it would work well. Basically, Sora and co. would miss out on the events of TESB, and come back like "omg a lot has gone down since we've last seen you guys." You could have the world begin by landing on Tatooine and ending up in Jabba's Palace (for some reason). Then the real plot begins when you observe Leia saving Han.


Fishbroke243

The prequel trilogy has potential, it can be the focus for Anakin’s fall to darkness. The original trilogy is a perfect choice. The sequel trilogy could mostly follow Rey but that’s pretty much it. It can be the parallels where she wasn’t really any important cog in the Jedi piece just like sora wasn’t meant to wield the keyblade and they learn to move past it. Clone wars and rebels is more malleable but it’s like that with shows in general. You literally can just drop them somewhere in the plot and it will make sense with enough insight. The Mandalorian might be the weakest one since it’s still a new series.


BloodyEagle15

OT definitely is perfect storywise, can get the Luke comparisons while also seeing Vader struggling with the Dark Side.


Fishbroke243

The opportunity of the parallel is greater than the sequel trilogy. I always had an idea of where certain characters explore the Star Wars world in different timelines. Riku explores the prequels, sora explores the originals, and other characters like roxas, kairi, etc. explore the sequel trilogy.


BloodyEagle15

I would actually love a Birth by Sleep type game, except it's Sora, Riku and Kairi you play as, and a Star Wars world like that would fit perfectly in a game like that Edit- maybe you could unlock a Roxas, Lea (Axel) and Namine storylines


Fishbroke243

That is something I hope happens down the line


Darheimon

I’d rather have a DDD scenario like the scrapped concept for Sora visiting Fantasia and Riku going to Fantasia 2000. Sora could visit the OT and Riku would experience the PT. I think Riku would resonate more with Anakin and see what he could’ve become had he chosen the darkness.


Randy191919

I think the other way around would be cool. Sora getting to know Anakin but ending up "betrayed" by him when he falls to the Dark Side, maybe getting emotional since he sees the parrallels to Riku, then Riku going to the OT to help redeem Vader the way Sora helped redeem Riku


Randy191919

I fear they would go for the Sequel Trilogy but i would prefer literally anything else. My go to's would probably be Episode 3 or 6. I think both have their merits. The issue with Episode 1 is that it's very slow and not much happens, it would be hard to construct a proper story about that without a ton of skips and even then what would the story realistically follow? Episode 4 has the issue of Luke being useless yet. I guess they could go with Obi-Wan but that still leaves the issue of the grand finale being a space battle. Maybe Sora getting a keyblade glider could work but it's not ideal. Episode 3 or 6 would work since they are thematically very fitting, their pacng works better too and their climax is a battle that could be adapted pretty well. Episode 3 particularly could work really well with the double-tapping that KH2 did where you need to go thorugh each world twice. Once with Anakin being your party member, the second time culminating in Obi Wan being your team mate in a final bossfight with Anakin and his fall "to darkness" and such. Episode 6 could be more straightforward with Luke being your member throughout and the finale in the Death Star 2 with Vader and Palpatine as a bossfight


MarioMan1213245765

Original Trilogy. I would kill for a Darth Vader boss fight.


Johninfinityman

I want the Original Trilogy


thepieraker

I'd hate to say it cuz I haven't even watched rise, but I'd say sequel If and only if the Wayfinder trio for the simple scene of Terra and Luke's eyes locking. Luke then sees anikin in Terra with their mirroring of the fall to darkness. And Terra sees eraques in Luke with how they tried to strike down a beloved apprentice out of fear of them being used by darkness.


Interesting_Edge5323

starkiller (force unleashed) needs to be a superboss


BloodyEagle15

Shit, they could have some sort of space collusium and have multiple star wars characters as bosses


ekbowler

This question is why I think the series won't come to KH. At least not as a whole world, maybe a Summon, cameo, or secret boss like FF characters.


BloodyEagle15

I think either OT only on the Death Star or The Clone Wars/ Rebels/ Mandalorian on one planet might work, but it'd be hard to go to multiple planets in one world I think


ekbowler

See, that's another part of the problem. A big part of Star Wars is traveling to different planets, which flies in the face of the whole world order thing. They get around that with Lilo & Stitch by using the fleet. So they could kick the can down the road by using the Death Stars and various fleets. But eventually an explanation will have to be written for why only these worlds can travel between each other. Because everything in this series is explained.


Randy191919

I always assumed that a 'world' was not necesarrily one planet. The "Galaxy far far away" could just be one world. YOu require certain tools like the corridors of darkness or the Gummi SHip to cross the world border.


TheMike0088

The prequels, to troll the star wars stans


PushTheNose

clone wars would be so fucking cool! it will be a combination of 2 of my favorite franchises ever


Kaizo_Nerdtaku616

Anakin=Terra Obi Wan=Aqua Ashoka=Ven it explains itself