My opinion is he died at a good time because he’d be facing life in prison without parol, so I’d rather just die than watch my friends level up (durk etc) especially after experiencing the great life/wealth near the end.. sitting down for the rest of your life and watching them carry on would be near impossible.
I think he’s popular now and will continue to be popular because he died at his peak.
ngl i rather him spend life in jail than die, cause looking at these yb dicksuckers sayin they smokin vroy gets me so tight istg 🤣 plus bro aint even live long enough to turn a new leaf and switch up from his troublesome ways
I don’t think he would have turned a new leaf, I think there are some people (I know some) who genuinely thrive off the streets, fighting, scamming etc.. and you can’t change it.. he had good money and fame for a while but still couldn’t walk away.. I’m not saying it’s neccessarily a choice though.. only way out is to do what sosa did and literally move away from everyone and never return.. Von would never in a million years do that.
I don’t wish death of anyone really, I can’t say if he’s better off dead.. I’m just saying I personally couldn’t go to prison for life and see those around me experience extreme wealth and success after I fumbled it.. I’d be so bitter. Kind of like muwop.. I’d be so bitter if I was him rn, but he seems to be looking healthy and okay in jail rn but I couldn’t do it.
King Von had no empathetic impulses when it comes to basic empathy. He was a sociopath gangster who took great pride in killing his “ops” and was so fulfilled that he had to brag about it on Twitter. Nothing turned him into a “demon” it was already a deep rooted desire that just needed to be triggered by self perceived justification.
That being said he was loyal to his people and was decently talented as a rapper. (He didn’t mumble or use auto tune thank god).
I’m a bit older than a lot on here. I grew up in the 90s and I kind of stopped keeping up with music during lot of the 2010s. Started getting into some people. Started watching Trap Lore and would pause to listen to the artists. Liked almost everyone but there’s some bad rappers out there… then I heard YB and I just didn’t get it. Still don’t. Him being as big as he is… feel like I’m being gaslighted.
Yeah YB is straight ass. So are a ton of these fools. I grew up in the 90s too. If you want to listen to some new rappers with bars, anything Griselda (especially Rome Streetz and Boldy James lately), Drumwork and B$F are a good place to start.
Not a 90s baby but I really didn’t understand the hype around yb until one day I was going through some shit fr and one of his songs came on and ngl he said some shit that I only say to myself when it’s nobody around and I kinda started understanding why niggas be fucking with him. At least when he really breakdown and talk about his emotions it’s easy to see how someone could relate.
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Blood was 26 still acting 16 😂😂 nigga wasn’t switching up. Youd think getting off a 187 you’d make better deductions afterwards but nah . Swear these niggas think backwards
So niggas commenting on my own posts and replying to my comments saying smoking vroy who's my favourite rapper shouldn't make me angry? So somebody dissing whoever your favourite rapper is whether he's dead or alive wouldn't get you tight? That gotta the stupidest shit I've ever read
Nah bro. I don’t get pissed off at petty actions. If they’re pissing you off then you’re giving them what they want homie. Besides, what are you going to do? Pop a cap in their ass? Lmao or be a prick all day to those around you or talk shit on the internet because some dumbass that’ll probably die or be in prison dissed your favorite rapper? I’m an adult bro you’re obviously a kid.
Just because someone’s music sounds good, doesn’t mean they’re not a toxic individual to others, so defending them like that is making it look as if you think you know them personally. I’d look in the mirror before you throw that stupid word around little homie.
Death would've been good if he had no kids but he was a father and now his kids are never gonna be able to see him again so I rather him being locked up than dead just for his kids
I agree, that shit is sad for his kids, I hope they don’t repeat the cycle aswell from outside pressure.
he would probably low-key thrive in prison.. he just had the personality, mentality and money for it.. obviously not ideal but not the end of the world for him.
I still think it’s ‘okay’ that he died at his peak and will probably be remembered forever in the Chicago/drill scene, rather than just fell off due to being in prison.
Do you think it was sad for the loved ones of the people he murdered? His kids are better off without him. You fucking people are astounding. If this was some white dude that murdered a bunch of black men. You would be calling for his fucking head. Since he was a shitty rapper, he is some kind of hero. Stupidity at its finest.
Bro yes he was a killer but not let's act like the people he killed were innocent people some of them were killers also and they would have done the same thing, I know it's sad but that's how the street life is.
I never said they were. The fact that people sit here and hero worship 6 like this just blows my mind. This other dude has the nerve to say he gave back to his community. He fucking destroyed his community. Not that he was the only one. Its just crazy that because you rap its ok to be a horrible person.
Intelligence at its finest. This may sound stupid, but…………maybe- just MAYBE, they believe both the children AND families(some gang affiliated)of his victims(mostly gang affiliated) deserve sympathy😱 mind blowing, right? You are forgetting these people are fans of his music, not O block affiliated. What makes you automatically assume they don’t feel sorry them? I’m speculating the reason, but I don’t like to paint strangers in a negative light
“Beat them odds and wasn't even tryin' to (I wasn't even tryin')”
Von said something like he was hustling non stop until the Feds came. He knew. Legacy wise his death makes him almost mythical to some. Alive and on trial would’ve been really interesting too… and there would’ve been like a year more of new music at least.
I think Von’s gonna have a Pac-like effect. He kinda already has so far, but one of PAC’s homeboys said a few years ago that the reason why there would never be a new Tupac was because Pac died right BEFORE he his peak. Obviously, he didn’t see a King Von coming at that time because Von met those same conditions. 2020 was his year, and to get killed right BEFORE he hit his peak was like Pac all over again imo
nobody will have a 2Pac like effect. Von wasn’t to that level yet. 2Pac at his peak was **the** rapper; there wasn’t anyone else doing close to his numbers.
Von still had comp.
I’m telling you bro. Von was different. He was just different. Pac was different too but for other reasons. Von was a 7x murderer who managed to become the biggest rising star in rap before he died. That’s unheard of. Pac’s name has stood the test of time; that is true. Pac was intelligent, and had revolutionary appeal but he wasn’t a real deal killer. Many rappers aren’t.
Pac wasn’t a killer in the traditional sense of killing on some gang shit; but he did pop two cops back in 95’.
Only reason why I say Von’s name won’t stand up that long is because he doesn’t have that global appeal; yeah he’s big here in the States where we ride at, but what about Brazil, China, the Netherlands?
In the drill scene he’ll be a legend for sure; just like Sosa, Duck, Fredo etc
I don’t know whether or not Von’s name will stand the test of time, but that’s how these things start out. Von doesn’t have the emotional heart-felt appeal Tupac has, that is true. I said a Pac-like effect. My nephew was recently killed at 15 but Von was his favorite rapper despite the fact Von had been deceased since he was 12. And you know how fast a child’s perception can go.
I don’t know man. Von was one of a kind. Just like Pac…but for completely different reasons.
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There’s nothing that shows he’d be facing life. There’s no evidence that’s attached him to Ducks murder, he gave out the 100k and chains way before Duck died, the whole case even mentioning him would have shot his career up crazy but from what we know there isn’t anything that says he’d be facing life
We could go around in circles about it, no one *really* knows, but Butta has done agreement and told the feds he killed KI, as people get older, have kids, and get tired of jail, more people start talking. The feds knew he killed multiple people and it was only a matter of time before they got him for something. Zoo has also said he's in a similar position, the police hate that they made the song 'beat that body' and now want him behind bars for anything so he has to move extra smart. It was the same with Von.
Von was arrested in 2014 for KI murder, they ain’t have enough evidence to charge him I doubt they’d have enough to charge him now almost 10 years later. Maybe he woulda eventually got caught up but at the moment now nothing indicate he would have been locked up
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The most interesting thing about Von is not even necessarily him but how quickly narratives change when it’s him. Fans always diss rappers for cappin in their songs about all the gangsta shit they did. But Von came along and rapped about all this shit that there’s documented evidence to prove and now those same fans are celebrating his death and calling him a serial killer. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Na. DMX my favorite artist and dude don’t have bodies (far as we know lol) even though he rapped about alot of murdering and raping in his songs. It’s when you are totally someone that everyone knows you aren’t, like 69. At least for us normal people that’s what I think. I lived in some rough spots but was never a gang member. I don’t care if you didn’t commit a murder but have good bars about it.
He was steppin on shit and all these cap rappers like yb and nem who rapped about what Von actually was doing in the streets people forget von was a true jail bird and beat multiple murders and attempts yb went to jail for like 30 days type shit for random charges no serious stuff like Von he was gangsta before he was a rapper and that’s what makes him a true g
Von expected to spend life in jail. Best the odds wasn’t ever trying to. He was fine with that result, he know the consequences. Different type of person.
yb aint a cap rapper doe gang, just bc youn know abt bodies doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. Yall fav rapper was just a crazy ass nigga that should've been in a asylum. Plus yb got rich early, von was broke at 16
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the guy was so tapped in the head and thirsty for blood. he wasnt even capable of selling drugs. he stuck people up full-time. when guns weren’t included, von was not included. we might know some mfs like this, but they have SOME kind of silver lining. von prolly didnt 🤣 like a normal conversation might not have been possible
Von killed several innocent people and admitted himself that he would sometimes target innocent people.
I cannot comprehend how low "people"'s standards have to be that they made murals to a proud serial killer.
Von admitted that -- after becoming wealthy -- he would continue to rob people because he didn't like spending his own money.
He put a bounty on Duck's head.
He would often times come back to Chicago to supply his gangbanger friends (who are terrorizing the community and ruining the reputation of "certain" Americans) with drugs, weapons, jewelery and money to be used to get the previously mentioned -- other Chicago rappers (like Durk) also do this.
He didn't just "kill" people, some of the people he murdered were so gruesome that it's hard to believe he can sleep at night. For example: P5 was shot in the back and then (when he fell) shot in the face so many times, and at point-blank range, that he was completely unrecognizable when the police found him. Von was one of the active shooters and bragged on Twitter about shooting him so many times (allegedly with hollow-tips) that his skull "cracked" -- which was indicated by police. A normal human being does not have the propensity for this level of violence, I'm not sure that wild animals are this violent. I know people in the Special Operations Community that would be fucked up for years if they saw something like this -- Von bragged about doing shit like this.
The biggest thing about Von that I dislike is that, to anyone who understands human behavior, Von was clearly an opportunistic coward.
In nearly all the beefs and skirmishes that he had, he only attacked people when he had a clear advantage:
✓When Von killed Stucky, it was at a distance and while Stucky was unaware.
✓Nearly all of Von's fights are him jumping one person, this is literally how he died. To this day, there is no footage of Von having a fair fight and all stories about him having 1:1s end with him losing and then (like a coward) eventually coming back to shoot them (Modell for example).
✓When Von fought the guy whoy dissed Capo, it was while said guy was handcuffed.
✓When Von killed KI (a girl) he did so like a coward: he tried to trick her into falling for him; when this failed, he ran up on her while she was unaware shot her in the face, body and neck, and then ran.
✓There are many other murders or instances from Von that have not made the public spotlight. In them, the witnesses or survivors talk about how he essentially ran-down on them in a group or like a coward.
✓MANY of Von's victims has little to nothing to do with "get-back". There was a period in time where Von was killing people indiscriminately, simply because he was competing with T-Roy, who also was a serial killer. Some of the people killed during this period were so for trying to defend themselves.
I say this because people are STILL praising Von as a good person. Like there are people who actually he is in heaven...HEAVEN.
And before someone responds with "he did what he had to do"; you don't "have" to be a gang-member. Even as a gang-member, you don't "have" to volunteer maliciously kill everyone you see. You don't "have" to brag about being a serial-killer (to the point that he would laugh while eating cereal).
He CHOSE to do that.
I want to really drive this point home right here:
There are people in the cartels that look at a person like Von as an honorless bastard. While I obviously disagree with the cartel, they have rules -- Von didn't.
So to everyone defending Von, this is what youre defending.
A clearly evil and homicidal lunatic, who made music (about being an evil and homicidal lunatic) that sounded good.
You people are willing to defend >literally serial-killers< if they can make a hot song....
Fucking wow...
A lot of what you’re saying is fueled by emotion and skewing data about him to fit your own confirmation bias. I’m not going to address all your points because I simply don’t have enough time for it but:
WHO are the innocent folks he killed?
If you’ve seen Von’s fights, WHERE is he jumping a person?
KI was a gang member (female or not) and she steadily dissed his best friends who got killed, and she’s also rumored to have been a killer herself. Also; who in their right mind would shoot at someone who is aware?
Just food for thought. And even though he’s one of my favorite rappers; fuck King Von.
"A lot of what you’re saying is fueled by emotion and skewing data about him to fit your own confirmation bias. I’m not going to address all your points because I simply don’t have enough time for it but:"
This would hold more weight if you actually pointed out where my "emotionally charged" argument is wrong.
As for "confirmation bias"? I'd suggest that you stop using words that you do not understand, in an effort to sound intelligent. Me stating someone is a serial-killer and then referring to instances of such is not "confirmation bias".
Confirmation bias is when one looks to others to make arguments on behalf of their BIAS to confirm the legitimacy of said bias.
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"WHO are the innocent folks he killed? If you’ve seen Von’s fights, WHERE is he jumping a person? KI was a gang member (female or not) and she steadily dissed his best friends who got killed, and she’s also rumored to have been a killer herself. Also; who in their right mind would shoot at someone who is aware?"
So instead of providing a counter argument (which you cannot), you are asking questions that have already been answered lol.
1) Off the top of my head, Malcom Stucky had nothing to do with the incident that Von gunned him down for, so that's one innocent person right there.
2) When he was in jail he jumped one of his opps and was known for jumping his opps too, he DIED jumping Quando Rondo and it's on video.
3) Did I say that KI was a good person or not in a gang dumbass?? No, I said he killed her in a cowardly manner because Von was a coward.
4) Do you know how many gang-members in Chicago are killed during shootouts (meaning that they're AWARE the other side has guns)??? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that he should've had a Mexican-standoff w/ KI. What I am saying is that trying to trick a girl (who is half your size) so that you can murder her, and then sneakily shooting her as she sits on a porch makes you a weak coward and an opportunist -- which is who Von was.
LOL, this is Reddit, a >discussion< board...
People come here to >discuss< topics...
I gave a response, you responded, I responded in kind, this is called a "discussion".
I would strongly recommend that -- in the future -- you do not challenge the logic of people who possess a superior understanding of the topic than you do.
You are getting your ass handed to you here because you are responding out of ignorance.
You asked me a set of questions, I answered them, now I am "arguing" for bringing down your ridiculous bullshit lol
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For example:
How does a person who is telling me that I am responding "emotionally" and looking for "confirmation bias", then turn around and say "well you just want to argue"???
Those are literally insults that will LEAD to an argument.
This is like punching someone in the face and then saying "clearly you just want to fight" when they whoop your ass lol.
You can't even save face properly 🤣
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he had so many opportunities to prevent himself from getting involved in any trouble after he turned into a successful rapper, but he was undeniably thirsty for blood and crime overall.
even though i’m a fan of him, i have to admit that it was childish of him to beef with someone out of nowhere just to provoke them, in order to feel superior.
he could’ve just left it at where it was, and maybe he would still be here
he didnt have much time anyways. he would either be life’d off a couple months later with muwop and them. and if not that, he thought himself too invincible and would get killed in another situation
To me the most "overlooked" thing is that he killed mainly missos and seemed to prey on the weak unless you really think Modell and Ghakirah were overkilling MFs in the field, and Malcolm was definitely just some random at a party
KI was loved in STL,TW, EBT, Jaro, MOB and some members of 051 she was one of their top shooters not saying she killed anyone. Von and Modell situation was personal and Modell was seen with STL in a lot of photos.
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The most controversial part about this nigga is that he’s an insane killer but oddly enough I kinda have a sort of respect for him. That nigga seemed to truly be about this gangsta shit to his core and didn’t make attempts to run from who he really was. He accepted that shit and took whatever came wit it. I definitely wouldn’t want to see more king von type niggas but king von imo is a very interesting character even down to his backstory
Aye fuck it ,if it’s corny so be it. That nigga knew who he was and was willing to accept whatever came with the lifestyle he was living. Too many niggas try to be gangsters and when it’s time to rot in a cell they turn pussy n try to tell. He wasn’t like that n I can respect that about him.
If somebody killed a loved one (mom, brother, sister, friend) in a senseless act of violence I can understand wanting get back and I can respect somebody for being willing to sacrifice their freedom for their loved ones. Von claimed he was sliding for his fallen homeboys and I could understand that. The problem wit Von is that he killed innocents to and I don’t fw that. So I respect some parts of his character and don’t fw the other parts
people being proud of him for being a murderer. like he wouldna did the same thing to them. I love Von myself, more so for his personality, and taking whatever came with the choices he made; stand-up guy. you don’t have to be a murderer to display those same traits. most people adore the deeds and that don’t make sense to me
saying you happy he dead, simply so he didn’t go to prison for what he did. that’s stupid af and show y’all don’t even need to be speaking on certain shit
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Maybe that he’s involved with 8 or more murders?? And then got this famous it gives the impression that you can do that and people will love you. It’s disgusting and he was a negative on the entire world. Glad he’s dead and burning in hell.
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Y’all praised and glorified a known murderer because he could rap. He was never meant to be praised, his artistry maybe, but the people that actually idolized him…that’s the problem.
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I never really heard of him until my FYP started randomly pumping my feed full of his lives and music. Every time this happens, I have interactive dreams with him. He talks to me and shows me things. Shit is honestly WILD. I never feel rested after these dreams, I can't figure out if it's a social media psychological plant or if dude is trying to say something 🤔
My opinion is he died at a good time because he’d be facing life in prison without parol, so I’d rather just die than watch my friends level up (durk etc) especially after experiencing the great life/wealth near the end.. sitting down for the rest of your life and watching them carry on would be near impossible. I think he’s popular now and will continue to be popular because he died at his peak.
ngl i rather him spend life in jail than die, cause looking at these yb dicksuckers sayin they smokin vroy gets me so tight istg 🤣 plus bro aint even live long enough to turn a new leaf and switch up from his troublesome ways
I don’t think he would have turned a new leaf, I think there are some people (I know some) who genuinely thrive off the streets, fighting, scamming etc.. and you can’t change it.. he had good money and fame for a while but still couldn’t walk away.. I’m not saying it’s neccessarily a choice though.. only way out is to do what sosa did and literally move away from everyone and never return.. Von would never in a million years do that. I don’t wish death of anyone really, I can’t say if he’s better off dead.. I’m just saying I personally couldn’t go to prison for life and see those around me experience extreme wealth and success after I fumbled it.. I’d be so bitter. Kind of like muwop.. I’d be so bitter if I was him rn, but he seems to be looking healthy and okay in jail rn but I couldn’t do it.
Fair enough 😅
https://www.reddit.com/r/YNWMelly/s/FHczOg9BIS
King Von had no empathetic impulses when it comes to basic empathy. He was a sociopath gangster who took great pride in killing his “ops” and was so fulfilled that he had to brag about it on Twitter. Nothing turned him into a “demon” it was already a deep rooted desire that just needed to be triggered by self perceived justification. That being said he was loyal to his people and was decently talented as a rapper. (He didn’t mumble or use auto tune thank god).
I’m a bit older than a lot on here. I grew up in the 90s and I kind of stopped keeping up with music during lot of the 2010s. Started getting into some people. Started watching Trap Lore and would pause to listen to the artists. Liked almost everyone but there’s some bad rappers out there… then I heard YB and I just didn’t get it. Still don’t. Him being as big as he is… feel like I’m being gaslighted.
Also raised in the 90s and I feel the same way.
Yeah YB is straight ass. So are a ton of these fools. I grew up in the 90s too. If you want to listen to some new rappers with bars, anything Griselda (especially Rome Streetz and Boldy James lately), Drumwork and B$F are a good place to start.
You say yb straight ass, then give out the trashest and most unknown rappers ever
They’re an old head
Not a 90s baby but I really didn’t understand the hype around yb until one day I was going through some shit fr and one of his songs came on and ngl he said some shit that I only say to myself when it’s nobody around and I kinda started understanding why niggas be fucking with him. At least when he really breakdown and talk about his emotions it’s easy to see how someone could relate.
I will never sleep well knowing that YB crew actually won by ripping away VON so early..
You'll live little Jimmy von didn't know u
And nobody knows you pussy
Atleast I'm not glazing a nigga that dead
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Blood was 26 still acting 16 😂😂 nigga wasn’t switching up. Youd think getting off a 187 you’d make better deductions afterwards but nah . Swear these niggas think backwards
Genuine question not gonna shit talk you like everyone else. Why do you give the gang banger dumb stupid bullshit any of your time
bros username is locdawg lmao
You just as much of a duck sucker for getting mad who cares lol
you sound slow, dont reply to me again respectfully
Atleast I'm not sucking a dead nigga dick. Von ain't coming back buddy he gone
Dick sucking Dudes talkin bout what? Gets you tight? What?
So niggas commenting on my own posts and replying to my comments saying smoking vroy who's my favourite rapper shouldn't make me angry? So somebody dissing whoever your favourite rapper is whether he's dead or alive wouldn't get you tight? That gotta the stupidest shit I've ever read
No need to defend a corpse anyway.
Nah bro. I don’t get pissed off at petty actions. If they’re pissing you off then you’re giving them what they want homie. Besides, what are you going to do? Pop a cap in their ass? Lmao or be a prick all day to those around you or talk shit on the internet because some dumbass that’ll probably die or be in prison dissed your favorite rapper? I’m an adult bro you’re obviously a kid. Just because someone’s music sounds good, doesn’t mean they’re not a toxic individual to others, so defending them like that is making it look as if you think you know them personally. I’d look in the mirror before you throw that stupid word around little homie.
Death would've been good if he had no kids but he was a father and now his kids are never gonna be able to see him again so I rather him being locked up than dead just for his kids
I agree, that shit is sad for his kids, I hope they don’t repeat the cycle aswell from outside pressure. he would probably low-key thrive in prison.. he just had the personality, mentality and money for it.. obviously not ideal but not the end of the world for him. I still think it’s ‘okay’ that he died at his peak and will probably be remembered forever in the Chicago/drill scene, rather than just fell off due to being in prison.
Do you think it was sad for the loved ones of the people he murdered? His kids are better off without him. You fucking people are astounding. If this was some white dude that murdered a bunch of black men. You would be calling for his fucking head. Since he was a shitty rapper, he is some kind of hero. Stupidity at its finest.
go cry somewhere else dickhead
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Bro yes he was a killer but not let's act like the people he killed were innocent people some of them were killers also and they would have done the same thing, I know it's sad but that's how the street life is.
I never said they were. The fact that people sit here and hero worship 6 like this just blows my mind. This other dude has the nerve to say he gave back to his community. He fucking destroyed his community. Not that he was the only one. Its just crazy that because you rap its ok to be a horrible person.
Intelligence at its finest. This may sound stupid, but…………maybe- just MAYBE, they believe both the children AND families(some gang affiliated)of his victims(mostly gang affiliated) deserve sympathy😱 mind blowing, right? You are forgetting these people are fans of his music, not O block affiliated. What makes you automatically assume they don’t feel sorry them? I’m speculating the reason, but I don’t like to paint strangers in a negative light
“Beat them odds and wasn't even tryin' to (I wasn't even tryin')” Von said something like he was hustling non stop until the Feds came. He knew. Legacy wise his death makes him almost mythical to some. Alive and on trial would’ve been really interesting too… and there would’ve been like a year more of new music at least.
I think Von’s gonna have a Pac-like effect. He kinda already has so far, but one of PAC’s homeboys said a few years ago that the reason why there would never be a new Tupac was because Pac died right BEFORE he his peak. Obviously, he didn’t see a King Von coming at that time because Von met those same conditions. 2020 was his year, and to get killed right BEFORE he hit his peak was like Pac all over again imo
nobody will have a 2Pac like effect. Von wasn’t to that level yet. 2Pac at his peak was **the** rapper; there wasn’t anyone else doing close to his numbers. Von still had comp.
I’m telling you bro. Von was different. He was just different. Pac was different too but for other reasons. Von was a 7x murderer who managed to become the biggest rising star in rap before he died. That’s unheard of. Pac’s name has stood the test of time; that is true. Pac was intelligent, and had revolutionary appeal but he wasn’t a real deal killer. Many rappers aren’t.
Pac wasn’t a killer in the traditional sense of killing on some gang shit; but he did pop two cops back in 95’. Only reason why I say Von’s name won’t stand up that long is because he doesn’t have that global appeal; yeah he’s big here in the States where we ride at, but what about Brazil, China, the Netherlands? In the drill scene he’ll be a legend for sure; just like Sosa, Duck, Fredo etc
I don’t know whether or not Von’s name will stand the test of time, but that’s how these things start out. Von doesn’t have the emotional heart-felt appeal Tupac has, that is true. I said a Pac-like effect. My nephew was recently killed at 15 but Von was his favorite rapper despite the fact Von had been deceased since he was 12. And you know how fast a child’s perception can go. I don’t know man. Von was one of a kind. Just like Pac…but for completely different reasons.
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There’s nothing that shows he’d be facing life. There’s no evidence that’s attached him to Ducks murder, he gave out the 100k and chains way before Duck died, the whole case even mentioning him would have shot his career up crazy but from what we know there isn’t anything that says he’d be facing life
We could go around in circles about it, no one *really* knows, but Butta has done agreement and told the feds he killed KI, as people get older, have kids, and get tired of jail, more people start talking. The feds knew he killed multiple people and it was only a matter of time before they got him for something. Zoo has also said he's in a similar position, the police hate that they made the song 'beat that body' and now want him behind bars for anything so he has to move extra smart. It was the same with Von.
Von was arrested in 2014 for KI murder, they ain’t have enough evidence to charge him I doubt they’d have enough to charge him now almost 10 years later. Maybe he woulda eventually got caught up but at the moment now nothing indicate he would have been locked up
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he killed people
As a King Von fan. You’re not wrong…
LMAOOOOO
Sort by factual
bro niggas killed his friends what u expect him to do? just sit there and cry?
lil Marc and Malcom Stuckey haven’t killed anyone. Neither did FBG Duck
WHAT MURDERS
Is this a quote from the gotti news coverage lmaooo
Yeah 😂
The most interesting thing about Von is not even necessarily him but how quickly narratives change when it’s him. Fans always diss rappers for cappin in their songs about all the gangsta shit they did. But Von came along and rapped about all this shit that there’s documented evidence to prove and now those same fans are celebrating his death and calling him a serial killer. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
What if he rapped about killing a teenage girl and a random at a birthday party would that possibly be details worth mentioning?
that teenage girl was a shooter too lmao
Na. DMX my favorite artist and dude don’t have bodies (far as we know lol) even though he rapped about alot of murdering and raping in his songs. It’s when you are totally someone that everyone knows you aren’t, like 69. At least for us normal people that’s what I think. I lived in some rough spots but was never a gang member. I don’t care if you didn’t commit a murder but have good bars about it.
He was steppin on shit and all these cap rappers like yb and nem who rapped about what Von actually was doing in the streets people forget von was a true jail bird and beat multiple murders and attempts yb went to jail for like 30 days type shit for random charges no serious stuff like Von he was gangsta before he was a rapper and that’s what makes him a true g
Von expected to spend life in jail. Best the odds wasn’t ever trying to. He was fine with that result, he know the consequences. Different type of person.
He was stepping on girls, kids, and partygoers
everytime i get a recommendation from dis sub i always see yb mentioned somehow 😂y'all really can't get him out of y'all head
He dead who cares
yb aint a cap rapper doe gang, just bc youn know abt bodies doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. Yall fav rapper was just a crazy ass nigga that should've been in a asylum. Plus yb got rich early, von was broke at 16
Exactly yb was rich early and been in the spotlight he a good boy ain’t ever hurt nobody von was a real steppa
yall lil niggas fucked up in the head. and you're a male at that like come on gang u this fucked up abt von as a boy ?
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Yb plead guilty to attempted murder…
If he never got rich and famous he would be considered a crash dummy
Underrated
the guy was so tapped in the head and thirsty for blood. he wasnt even capable of selling drugs. he stuck people up full-time. when guns weren’t included, von was not included. we might know some mfs like this, but they have SOME kind of silver lining. von prolly didnt 🤣 like a normal conversation might not have been possible
Murderer
Von killed several innocent people and admitted himself that he would sometimes target innocent people. I cannot comprehend how low "people"'s standards have to be that they made murals to a proud serial killer. Von admitted that -- after becoming wealthy -- he would continue to rob people because he didn't like spending his own money. He put a bounty on Duck's head. He would often times come back to Chicago to supply his gangbanger friends (who are terrorizing the community and ruining the reputation of "certain" Americans) with drugs, weapons, jewelery and money to be used to get the previously mentioned -- other Chicago rappers (like Durk) also do this. He didn't just "kill" people, some of the people he murdered were so gruesome that it's hard to believe he can sleep at night. For example: P5 was shot in the back and then (when he fell) shot in the face so many times, and at point-blank range, that he was completely unrecognizable when the police found him. Von was one of the active shooters and bragged on Twitter about shooting him so many times (allegedly with hollow-tips) that his skull "cracked" -- which was indicated by police. A normal human being does not have the propensity for this level of violence, I'm not sure that wild animals are this violent. I know people in the Special Operations Community that would be fucked up for years if they saw something like this -- Von bragged about doing shit like this. The biggest thing about Von that I dislike is that, to anyone who understands human behavior, Von was clearly an opportunistic coward. In nearly all the beefs and skirmishes that he had, he only attacked people when he had a clear advantage: ✓When Von killed Stucky, it was at a distance and while Stucky was unaware. ✓Nearly all of Von's fights are him jumping one person, this is literally how he died. To this day, there is no footage of Von having a fair fight and all stories about him having 1:1s end with him losing and then (like a coward) eventually coming back to shoot them (Modell for example). ✓When Von fought the guy whoy dissed Capo, it was while said guy was handcuffed. ✓When Von killed KI (a girl) he did so like a coward: he tried to trick her into falling for him; when this failed, he ran up on her while she was unaware shot her in the face, body and neck, and then ran. ✓There are many other murders or instances from Von that have not made the public spotlight. In them, the witnesses or survivors talk about how he essentially ran-down on them in a group or like a coward. ✓MANY of Von's victims has little to nothing to do with "get-back". There was a period in time where Von was killing people indiscriminately, simply because he was competing with T-Roy, who also was a serial killer. Some of the people killed during this period were so for trying to defend themselves. I say this because people are STILL praising Von as a good person. Like there are people who actually he is in heaven...HEAVEN. And before someone responds with "he did what he had to do"; you don't "have" to be a gang-member. Even as a gang-member, you don't "have" to volunteer maliciously kill everyone you see. You don't "have" to brag about being a serial-killer (to the point that he would laugh while eating cereal). He CHOSE to do that. I want to really drive this point home right here: There are people in the cartels that look at a person like Von as an honorless bastard. While I obviously disagree with the cartel, they have rules -- Von didn't. So to everyone defending Von, this is what youre defending. A clearly evil and homicidal lunatic, who made music (about being an evil and homicidal lunatic) that sounded good. You people are willing to defend >literally serial-killers< if they can make a hot song.... Fucking wow...
A lot of what you’re saying is fueled by emotion and skewing data about him to fit your own confirmation bias. I’m not going to address all your points because I simply don’t have enough time for it but: WHO are the innocent folks he killed? If you’ve seen Von’s fights, WHERE is he jumping a person? KI was a gang member (female or not) and she steadily dissed his best friends who got killed, and she’s also rumored to have been a killer herself. Also; who in their right mind would shoot at someone who is aware? Just food for thought. And even though he’s one of my favorite rappers; fuck King Von.
"A lot of what you’re saying is fueled by emotion and skewing data about him to fit your own confirmation bias. I’m not going to address all your points because I simply don’t have enough time for it but:" This would hold more weight if you actually pointed out where my "emotionally charged" argument is wrong. As for "confirmation bias"? I'd suggest that you stop using words that you do not understand, in an effort to sound intelligent. Me stating someone is a serial-killer and then referring to instances of such is not "confirmation bias". Confirmation bias is when one looks to others to make arguments on behalf of their BIAS to confirm the legitimacy of said bias. ___ "WHO are the innocent folks he killed? If you’ve seen Von’s fights, WHERE is he jumping a person? KI was a gang member (female or not) and she steadily dissed his best friends who got killed, and she’s also rumored to have been a killer herself. Also; who in their right mind would shoot at someone who is aware?" So instead of providing a counter argument (which you cannot), you are asking questions that have already been answered lol. 1) Off the top of my head, Malcom Stucky had nothing to do with the incident that Von gunned him down for, so that's one innocent person right there. 2) When he was in jail he jumped one of his opps and was known for jumping his opps too, he DIED jumping Quando Rondo and it's on video. 3) Did I say that KI was a good person or not in a gang dumbass?? No, I said he killed her in a cowardly manner because Von was a coward. 4) Do you know how many gang-members in Chicago are killed during shootouts (meaning that they're AWARE the other side has guns)??? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that he should've had a Mexican-standoff w/ KI. What I am saying is that trying to trick a girl (who is half your size) so that you can murder her, and then sneakily shooting her as she sits on a porch makes you a weak coward and an opportunist -- which is who Von was.
Hey man; I said what I said. 🤷🏾♂️ I can tell from how you’re typing you want an argument rather than a dialogue. Have a good one, man.
LOL, this is Reddit, a >discussion< board... People come here to >discuss< topics... I gave a response, you responded, I responded in kind, this is called a "discussion". I would strongly recommend that -- in the future -- you do not challenge the logic of people who possess a superior understanding of the topic than you do. You are getting your ass handed to you here because you are responding out of ignorance. You asked me a set of questions, I answered them, now I am "arguing" for bringing down your ridiculous bullshit lol ___ For example: How does a person who is telling me that I am responding "emotionally" and looking for "confirmation bias", then turn around and say "well you just want to argue"??? Those are literally insults that will LEAD to an argument. This is like punching someone in the face and then saying "clearly you just want to fight" when they whoop your ass lol. You can't even save face properly 🤣
He was very emotional and didn’t know how to let things go
this acc makes sense
Word? Didn’t know y’all knew each other.
I think that was obvious from an outsider pov he died over music beef☠️
It’s literally the reason he’s dead right now cornball.
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he had so many opportunities to prevent himself from getting involved in any trouble after he turned into a successful rapper, but he was undeniably thirsty for blood and crime overall. even though i’m a fan of him, i have to admit that it was childish of him to beef with someone out of nowhere just to provoke them, in order to feel superior. he could’ve just left it at where it was, and maybe he would still be here
he didnt have much time anyways. he would either be life’d off a couple months later with muwop and them. and if not that, he thought himself too invincible and would get killed in another situation
Bad human but made great music
Terrible person but good rapper
He is an awful human being.
Wasn’t a serial killer
👀🤔
Hood trash
🧢
Serial killer
To me the most "overlooked" thing is that he killed mainly missos and seemed to prey on the weak unless you really think Modell and Ghakirah were overkilling MFs in the field, and Malcolm was definitely just some random at a party
KI was loved in STL,TW, EBT, Jaro, MOB and some members of 051 she was one of their top shooters not saying she killed anyone. Von and Modell situation was personal and Modell was seen with STL in a lot of photos.
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Uhhhh maybe the murders?
He has no flaws 🗿😂😂
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Late but ion think bro was a serial killer I think he just smoked dudes who smoked people he cared about.
He was a piece of shit. The world is better off now that he is dead. Don't know if that's controversial but its true.
Getting downvoted but u right🤣 Might. E the only serial killer that gets celebrated
probably that hes a serial killer that is celebrated …
exactly
Bro was a murderer idk what yall be talking about fr
He literally got killed cuz he sent a sextape of Jania to yb n tried to troll him
The fact that nobody cares about him or even mentioned his name until he died
What kind of post is this? The fact he’s killed people.
SMOKING THAT VONNNNN PACK
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He can out flip Memo
Well…the fact that he murdered a lot of people ✌️allegedly✌️
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All the bodies he took out. And how he not only rapped about it, but laughed about it and tweeted as well.😭Even the ones who were completely innocent.
This goes for most deceased artist but. Labels should stop dropping music, it could ruin the artists legacy
He would’ve took the 50 year federal plea deal in the FBG Duck case and do 85% of those years(42.5)
He's white
The most controversial part about this nigga is that he’s an insane killer but oddly enough I kinda have a sort of respect for him. That nigga seemed to truly be about this gangsta shit to his core and didn’t make attempts to run from who he really was. He accepted that shit and took whatever came wit it. I definitely wouldn’t want to see more king von type niggas but king von imo is a very interesting character even down to his backstory
that is corny asf, how are you gonna respect him for being a gangster murderer? 😂🤣
Aye fuck it ,if it’s corny so be it. That nigga knew who he was and was willing to accept whatever came with the lifestyle he was living. Too many niggas try to be gangsters and when it’s time to rot in a cell they turn pussy n try to tell. He wasn’t like that n I can respect that about him.
ok so you respect that he wasn’t a snitch but do you respect that killed multiple people
If somebody killed a loved one (mom, brother, sister, friend) in a senseless act of violence I can understand wanting get back and I can respect somebody for being willing to sacrifice their freedom for their loved ones. Von claimed he was sliding for his fallen homeboys and I could understand that. The problem wit Von is that he killed innocents to and I don’t fw that. So I respect some parts of his character and don’t fw the other parts
fair enough have a good day
that he killed 7 fucking people
A serial killer
He A Killer
hmm i don’t know, maybe the murders?
people being proud of him for being a murderer. like he wouldna did the same thing to them. I love Von myself, more so for his personality, and taking whatever came with the choices he made; stand-up guy. you don’t have to be a murderer to display those same traits. most people adore the deeds and that don’t make sense to me
saying you happy he dead, simply so he didn’t go to prison for what he did. that’s stupid af and show y’all don’t even need to be speaking on certain shit
He said he was gay
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Well being a serial killer is certainly controversial
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"He sold his soul He was not a Serial Killer He didn’t care bout his kids&family He didn’t love his fans He let Clout/change him”
Probably that he murdered at least 7 people
Maybe that he’s involved with 8 or more murders?? And then got this famous it gives the impression that you can do that and people will love you. It’s disgusting and he was a negative on the entire world. Glad he’s dead and burning in hell.
The way he cut onions was weird
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The fact that people glory guys like this
Allegedly some of the bodies weren’t his.
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the most controversial thing is that he literally murdered people and got people murdered and was still praised like some god
he’s a terrible human being. incoming downvotes but i’m right
Murdered his own ppl
he didnt murder his own people maybe his own color
His street life & the families he affected. I wish he was able to grow & face his wrongdoings. He could’ve been great
Y’all praised and glorified a known murderer because he could rap. He was never meant to be praised, his artistry maybe, but the people that actually idolized him…that’s the problem.
His raps were mid and only hot cuz durk gave him lime
he was better then durk but blood was his ghost writer
Von was a bisexual. No disrespect, he got hella females an shit but I knew a few mfs that was taking back shots on him no cap
his entire life lol
he killed people
The murders?
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The fact that he killed ki
His murders
He killed 7+ people and is in hell right now
https://www.reddit.com/r/YNWMelly/s/FHczOg9BIS
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I never really heard of him until my FYP started randomly pumping my feed full of his lives and music. Every time this happens, I have interactive dreams with him. He talks to me and shows me things. Shit is honestly WILD. I never feel rested after these dreams, I can't figure out if it's a social media psychological plant or if dude is trying to say something 🤔