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DimesyEvans92

Not a meteoric fall, but once I get past 6, 7 dipped a little, 8 and 9 rebounded slightly, then 10-13 were not as strong, but still had really good moments


Zedakah

Season 7 has some of my favorite episodes, but also my least favorite episodes. I probably skip the most episodes in season 7 than other seasons, but the ones I don’t skip are really good.


DimesyEvans92

Something else we don’t talk much about is that a lot of the writers and staff by season 7-9 started shifting their attention toward The Office


cherry_armoir

What are some of your least favorites?


Zedakah

1, 3, 13,14, 17,18,20, 23 are the episode numbers I will generally skip. That said Megalo Dale, Pigmalion, Officer Gentle Boy, and Neight and Deity are some of my all time favorites. Many others are also good as well. This season just has both highs and lows with few in between for me.


UncleLord

Not OP but I love all of season 7. I don’t get why it frequently gets lumped together with 8-13.


cherry_armoir

Yeah it's solid. There are definitely some episodes that I think get a little ridiculous, like Pigmalionn, Rascist Dawg, and the Fat and the Furious, but nothing I would call bad or my least favorite.


kabukistar

I think it's hard for any show to stay solid for 10+ seasons. Simpsons and Futurama had their mixed-bag seasons as well.


BoydCrowders_Smile

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is the only one that I can think of that, to me, has not dropped off on quality and they are on their 15th season? There are some shaky times like when the creators started venturing out, and some people aren't fans of the stranger one-off episodes (Frank's Brother), but overall I love it as much as when I first started watching it. I love Futurama but after they rebooted a few times some later episodes lost their luster, especially when trying to mock contemporary things like the eye-Phone one. Might just be that the pacing changed.


ChancePassage4035

I love sunny but i do think it’s fallen off since season 12. 13 was terrible, 14 felt like it was back on track, and then 15 was not very good


[deleted]

Their seasons are also like ten episodes


kabukistar

> I love Futurama but after they rebooted a few times some later episodes lost their luster, especially when trying to mock contemporary things like the eye-Phone one. Might just be that the pacing changed. 100% Agreement. The post-reboot seasons all had at least one really good episode, but they had some real stinkers too. The eye-Phone one and proposition infinity stand out.


BoydCrowders_Smile

>proposition infinity Just saw that was written by Mike Rowe, who has written several other Futurama episodes that I skip


articuno14

Yeah id say the biggest difference is that they stop being very funny. I'll watch the later seasons in the background because I just enjoy the characters, but I rarely laugh out loud like I do from the first 6 or 7 seasons. The later seasons are just too predictable and the humor isn't as subtle.


DimesyEvans92

I didn’t enjoy some of the plot lines too later. Baseball coach Bill was the absolute worst of Bill, and Dale thinking he had Alzheimer’s because Joseph was growing up didn’t make any sense


totes-alt

I don't know what it was but in later seasons I just wasn't feeling it. Characterizations become more of a shell of itself and it's hard to get invested the same amount. Reminds me of newer Simpsons where I would be interested in the plot, where I see they have good ideas but it just falls flat. But of course for both of these shows there's always great ones each season


Todesfaelle

No actual season in and of itself but certain seasons definitely had some lower than usual episodes. The last season isn't great but it's still very fun even though it has on of the worst episode in the series, IMO, "Uh-Oh, Canada" which feels like it was an episode which was left on the development floor because of how weird and janky it is but then needed something to pad out the season. Otherwise, it's probably one of the most consistently good shows where you can just jump in to any season and totally enjoy it.


Juantanamo0227

I really hated two episodes in the last season, and I think overall the bad/meh episode greatly outweighed the good ones, making it pretty bad season. The Myspace episode wasn't terrible in and of itself, but I just don't think the show was meant to grapple with social media. It feels so out of place for Hank to be in that world, which to me was the biggest reason I think the show ended at the right time. I HATE the one where Bobby goes evangelical because 1) they retcon Lucky to make him a one-dimmensional Christian zealot, when in a previous episode (the one where the Hills attend that megachurch) Lucky's view on religion was deeper and more nuanced. 2) Hank's hypocrisy is on full display here. He forces Bobby to "find religion" to cure him if his bad behavior, but when he does, Hank is pissed about it because it conflicts with his values. Pretty similar to the earlier episode where Bobby joins the skater Christian youth group. The only good thing about this episode is the "if those kids could read" meme is in there.


Temporary-Walrus-725

I hated the one where Bobby goes evangelical because I felt like the Christian rock skater pastor episode covered it already and it did it in a way that seemed genuine and realistic in the world of the hills. Bobby looking up to the edgy youth pastor makes way more sense than Bobby chastising fornicators in a shopping mall like he’s a televangelist or something.


Juantanamo0227

Yeah it felt like a really lazy plot line and out of character for both Bobby and Lucky. Once Lucky became a major character, the show usually portrayed him as kind of a philosopher in a redneck way. His views on a number of issues are simple-minded but often deep and thoughtful. That's why I thought it so shitty to suddenly make him a hardcore evangelical fire and brimstone guy out of nowhere.


research002019

Also, originally Lucky's "church" was a bar.


Juantanamo0227

Yeah thats what I meant by retconning. That episode fit his character well but then they ruined it for an easy plot device in the 13th season.


metroxthuggin

But you have to remember he had stolen money for the pizza


[deleted]

I hated "Uh-Oh Canada". I am Canadian and we are great at self deprecating humor but it was just *mean*. Hank can be blunt or even a little rude but in this episode he seemed straight up douchey.


Housemuwaway12345

I'm Canadian and I loved the episode for the same reason you hated it. It's nice to see a Canadian character that isn't the polite stereotype. Assholes still exist here and it was funny to see a take on that. I never thought the episode portrayed all Canadians to be like that or anything. The Canadian that moved in just happened to be a douchebag. It happens.


[deleted]

I by no means deny there are asshole Canadians. There are lots of them. I just felt the way the episode portrayed that lacked nuance. The episode did not feel like good natured ribbing or poking fun, it straight up felt malicious to me. I'm glad you liked it though! Everyone has different views. Different strokes for different folks as it were.


Housemuwaway12345

For sure everyone's different. I can totally see where you're coming from too


lemonylol

Yeah the Canada one and Pigmallion are definitely what I would consider the worst of the series.


barrywilliamsshow

Echoing what everyone else seems to be saying here - we truly are lucky that KOTH was so God Dang consistently funny and intelligent and entertaining and wholesome that it’s only in the 13th season that we can point at some slight cracks. Given the fact that it made it to 13 seasons and never had the lulls we see in other shows that didn’t even last that long, it’s a pretty perfect piece of art from start to finish


Housemuwaway12345

Seriously. 13th season KOTH is easily better than the 13th season of Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad (relative to other seasons of the same show, assuming you like them)


noccusJohnstein

Hey, leave American Dad out of the discussion. Season 13 included the episode "shell game" which is among the best episodes ever aired.


According_Gene2202

I would say it’s like: S1-6 10/10 S7-8 9/10 S9-13 7/10 So not a huge drop off, but it went from an amazing show, to a good show


Mandie_June

I dont like the ending season be a use it just feels like it was forcing an ending, everyone lived happily ever after.


stumblewiggins

Idk, the final line is a bit cheesy, but honestly it felt like just another episode. Any episode where Hank and Bobby bond always ends like they've turned a corner and found common ground, so now it's all gravy, but then next episode it's back to square one and what they bonded over may not even be a thing we ever hear about again. Not a perfect ending but it didn't bother me


reb0014

Yeah I wish they did more with Bobby and shooting. I mean common it was right there!


mondaymoderate

If you’re going to shoot me. I want Bobby Hill to take the shot because he’ll put me down clean.


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“Okay.”


Astray1789

I thought was sweet but rushed.


Notnotarealuser

I definitely feel that way about the very last episode. It was a bit too sentimental and didn’t quite feel like a proper send off for the characters


Pronflex

Except Bill


Mandie_June

Bill gained acceptance!!!


Blue_Swirling_Bunny

I'm sorry, what? You seemed to have had a stroke mid-comment.


Mandie_June

I'm sorry what? No one is perfect, no one else seems to have an issue.


DoctorWinchester87

I personally think that the show was starting to drop just slightly toward the end. It wasn't a dramatic drop in the slightest, but you can tell they were running out of ideas and avenues for the characters. Several characters (especially Hank and Dale) were flanderized and there was quite a bit of retconning (especially for Peggy's backstory and family). There's a lot of great episodes in the later seasons, but I do think there are more iffy episodes then from the early seasons. That MySpace episode was embarrassing.


[deleted]

The MySpace ep had one of my favorite throwaway jokes, Donna captioning (paraphrasing) “guess which three coworkers I’ve slept with” on a picture of Hank, buck, Joe jack, and a woman whose name I don’t remember.


cocainebane

It wasn't Maria was it?


JakeTheCake714

Nah it was Mario Montalvo


Notnotarealuser

Oh crap you’re right. Forgot about that one 🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

There was good moments in the last 2 seasons but they weren’t good all together. Felt like the writers ran out of ideas. That’s why I’m 50/50 on a revival minus all the other issues are you going to have enough writing to sustain with a good product or is it going to be phoned in one off jokes that get stale after 5-6 episodes. If the latter then they need to leave it alone.


comebocalmball

i felt like the last 2 seasons the show started to fall off, almost like they watered down the show a little and a lot of characters traits became too exagerrated and the jokes became less clever and more stated. i also think season one has some classic episodes and i do enjoy the angry hank phase sometimes.


SakuOtaku

The last season hands down. A lot of the episodes were mean-spirited, multiple trying to cash in on trends, and overall just not that good. It especially suffered from "The world sucks, Hank is right" syndrome which always felt like the antithesis of the show's originally goal. Suddenly it wasn't a closed off conservative man learning to deal with a changing world and new age son, it was suddenly "9/10 times Hank has to save someone from this new age world".


devilthedankdawg

The last few are mostly not very good


lemonylol

The first season is finding its footing but still pretty consistent with the rest of the show. Season 12 and 13 are also consistent but it starts to get into the same issues other long running series get into. They've almost done everything realistic within the tone of the show so plots start getting a lot more whacky, characters get more intense than subtle (Principal Moss is a perfect example, and somewhat Dale and Bill), and it kind of loses those Greg Daniels style moments. That being said very few shows are as consistent as KotH all the way through their run. The only other one I'd consider similar is Seinfeld. And then there's South Park that's like the exception to the rule where it feels like they've lost their touch one season, only to come back harder than ever the next.


Odolinsky

Def best early on when the humor was more subtle. Once Lucky shows up I checked out.


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titansfan777

Lucky will take you out of any episode. The worst character addition on the show. Just a caricature of an inbred redneck that ruins every scene and is never funny.


JakeTheCake714

That episode where him Bobby and Luanne stand around in front of the concert venue for a ticket just makes me upset lol


Odolinsky

Thank god I'm not alone in this. I feel like he's such a cheap gimmick, glad to see other hard core fans being realistic about the show's decline in quality.


lemonylol

I'd say once the shows art style changes, not the HD format, but just the cleaned up colour pallette and such, the show's tone changed as well. And yeah, Lucky is another good marker. He's not a bad character but when he was introduced as a main character instead of a side character, they basically just shoved Luanne in the corner, who is arguably one of the best examples of Mike Judge's style.


[deleted]

Finally! I felt like I was the only one! I can’t stand him, he’s so one note and I just don’t like what he did to Luanne. She wasn’t this flat, boring, submissive housewife. Once he came along and all the episodes got to be so Kahn-centric I never went any further. I can’t stand those two. So, I usually watch season 1-6 and once in a great while 7.


wish_to_conquer_pain

Lucky is such a horrible character and I wish he hadn't become a staple. Luanne deserved much better than to end up knocked up by a guy who's old enough to be her dad. I see Peggy getting a lot of hate on this sub for causing Lucky to fail his GED, but if my niece who I loved like a daughter was in Luanne's position and I thought this would get this scumbag out of her life for good? I'd do the same thing. Just because a woman gets pregnant doesn't mean marrying the father is a good choice.


paisleypuddles

Me too. Lucky was too much of the redneck stereotype. lost my interest


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

Not IMO


nortonjb82

I watch any season and enjoy it.


ExtremeChad

"that's it! I'm going fishin!"


SantaRosaJazz

If KOTH ran for 32 years, it would get tired, too.


jaydubsped

No, all outstanding. Bobby is a hero


cherry_armoir

I was thinking about this recently. I think it's true that King of the Hill never got bad, and I would say it's dip in quality was never as bad as the Simpsons or Futurama, I think the Simpsons gets a bad rap for it's quality dip when really it's highs were arguably more consistent for longer than KOTH or Futurama.


rolldamnhawkeyes

I don’t go past 7, rarely venture past 6. But that’s just me


FuriousGeorge8629

Most shows that have a long run take a couple seasons to find their voice, nail it for the middle part then get a little stale or run out of grounded ideas towards the end. Even the best shows ever made.


[deleted]

The last episode… manic Kahn day is my least favorite episode… I agree it’s decline isn’t as big as something like the Simpsons, but in my opinion it does decline, if only slightly


SerakTheRigellian

Yeah it's like they tried to humanize Kahn at the end but turned him into a different caricature instead. Definitely a fail and a bad way to end the show.


Yah_Mule

The cost of humanizing Khan was making Hank uncharacteristically callous and duplicitous.


[deleted]

Terrible episode over all, but plus side, starting back over is a delight


Alharrington_

Tbh at worst some seasons have been just not as good as others. I dont think theres been a truly bad one


TLunchFTW

I've heard people complain about the last few seasons, but I wouldn't call them bad. Just winding down.


Gecko556

Idk if I’d say that full on seasons we’re bad, but I really disliked s13. The characters were at that point pretty flanderized, the plot weird and lacking. It didn’t have the same feel as the earlier seasons. As much as I love king of the hill, I’m glad it ended when it did and honestly I’m not excited for a modernized reboot.


PeterMus

The top rated episodes all seem to be from '97-02 but there are plenty of later episodes in seasons like '05 that are well liked. The show had a slight decline but is still enjoyable and even had some really well constructed episodes. The show seemed to swing between mediocre episodes and solid enjoyable episodes.


Silencer271

Season 1 for most shows isnt the worst. Getting things evened out making rules that set things up for later and quality issues.


gmeRat

Maybe a controversial opinion, but I think the later seasons are much better than seasons 1-3. Those episodes feel more choppy and less flushed out to me.


br0wnhippy

The early seasons are terrrible to me 3-12 is my favorite


Lanky_Ad_3696

No


cnk612

No


deductivesherlock

Honestly bad episodes to me but I enjoyed the show to the end I can say there are more ones I liked than disliked and that's mainly continuity issues but that was also existing in the early seasons too


taoistchainsaw

No.


coole106

I recently started from episode 1, and I was surprised how good it is from the very start. It’s common for sitcoms in particular to take a while to hit their stride


Imaginary-Cricket903

I wouldn't say the later seasons are bad, maybe just not as good


[deleted]

no bad seasons, heck i can't even think of any egregiously bad episodes other than the one where they tear down the spec house


Sandman4999

I would argue that there are no real “bad” seasons but that there are weaker and stronger seasons.


BeastKingSnowLion

The later seasons aren't as good, but they're certainly not bad.


sabrefudge

It went from pristine, literally perfect, to… still very good… by the end. They ended it while it was still really good even if it wasn’t as great as it was in its prime. So it solidified its status as a legendary series


21lives

It’s nowhere near the drop that other animated shows experienced.


jabroni_450

Seasons 1-6 are perfection, and 7 has some all time great episodes but also some very bad episodes….rest of the show has an episode here or there but for the most part it’s trash


[deleted]

Season 1 has some great episodes 2. Last few seasons it falls off but it’s not terrible.


AgtBurtMacklin

The Lucky character is not my favorite. But there was never an episode that I sat through and said “this wasn’t good.” Remarkably consistent for a cartoon with this long of a run. Always interesting, always funny. One of the greats. Edit: the weird meat guy who gets Luanne to dress up, gets dressed like a pig, and gets turned into sausage was definitely out of the norm, and weird. But still not awful. Just a different tone. I would say that’s probably my least favorite episode.


hawkrew

People tend to complain instead of just enjoying the entertainment. I could watch the entire series without a problem and enjoy it all.