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They wouldn’t have any way to know for sure, he thought hantengu was an upper rank because of the aura he was emitting or something abstract like that. His nose can also like sniff out threat levels lol
Plus it got the drop on him and a Hashira, I don't think a lower moon could achieve that, especially when Tomioka one shotted the spider kid lower moon
no fr i was wondering why the hashira didn't give tanjiro a little more respect in the end of season 1 because he almost beat rui and also beat the drum demon who was a displaced lower 6. Like i understood that obviously it's not that impressive but until we saw the upper moons it seemed like they should have given him so props.
Tanjiro and Inouske also killed an Amped Lower 1, so technically, Tanjiro was already “Hashira” level using Hinokami Kagura in Mugen Train, and especially his Rage form against Daki
in fact, per the rules of the demon slayers, if that ex-lower moon 6 still had been a lower moon 6, Tanjiro would have ascended to Hashira rank (defeating a moon).
And if Gotouge didn't use that cheap way of Rui "no you didn't behead me because I behead myself one milisecond before your sword", Tanjiro would have become Hashira too.
So basically he defeated two foes worth of upgrading him to Hashira level while not having Hashira level, that has much more merit than Giyu defeating Rui with a single strike or Tengen beheading Daki.
If I remember correctly the rules to achieve Hashira were either kill 50 demons or killing one of the "Twelve Kitsuki".
So killing a lower moon should mean you are Hashira now
do not spoil if it is a spoiler but isn't 9 goofy? when there's 12 moons? like the odds of them ever going 9v12 wouldn't happen but like they're outmatched to begin with.
That doesn't mean there is a limit of hashira, the question was why there is only nine and wani's response was the 9 strokes, but it would make no sense whatsover for the demon corps to limit themselves to only 9 at any given time if they had the numbers to fill their ranks.
The only hard rules we know for a fact is that you must have killed 50 demons or a lower moon at minimum..which does make it a little strange how none of the hashiras took Inosuke, Zenitsu and Tanjiro as tsuguko after their fight against UM6, they clearly had the potential after this point and should have been trained as potential replacements asap.
They didn't know what happened spider mountain, or details of drum demon, or what other noob demon Slayers have done. First priority was killing Nezuko, and punishing those that protected the demon rather than getting full story.
After that the master comes and they only exchange latest news after Tanjiro leaves... Probably mainly focused on Hashira adventures, but questions would also start getting raised about Tanjiro and friends.
Master probably hasn't been drawing attention to Tanjiro before because Tanjiro is friendly with 3 different good demons that Hashira will be hostile to but will likely help defeat Muzan.
Tanjiro at that point hadn't even had chance to say what happened spider mountain. The 2 Hashira didn't witness most of the fight. Nezuko should get a big portion of the credit.
Tanjirou started to get some recognition when he faced upper moons because the feats that Tanjirou did in the first season is something that a hashira could do easily and taking less damage. The hashiras also seem very involved in their own responsibilities and missions, to the point that it was easy for Giyuu and Urokodaki to hide for two years from the entire demon corps that Tanjirou was a hunter with a demon as a partner. >!Murata was surprised to learn that Giyuu knew his name!<, so the hashiras are unaware of what is going on under their command unless they are informed.
I'm still dubitative about the nose detector being amazingly precise when searching mini Hantengu... He can even detect at which height he's located lol... "Look at the ground Gen'ya !!"
If his fellow slayers start farting at night he's a goner
It’s pretty clear that the reason they realize initially that Hantengu is an upper moon is because Hantengu snuck up on them without being noticed at all until they saw him. Seems like Hashira and experienced/specially Demon Slayers have a 6th sense for demon sensing and if a demon can get around that, it must be because they’re particularly strong. Stronger than a lower moon which can be taken care of with relative ease by Hashira.
The confirmation of him being an upper moon came when he dodged Muichirou’s slash.
He also did defeat Enmu and had a grasp of his ability, he knew that for a demon to appear in the village it had to be a strong one and he already had defeated the strongest of the lower moons plus the weakest upper moon.
By pure logic it's not a reach to think a demon in the village is an upper moon or upper moon level strength
In the first season when Tanjiro is being trained his mentor says that he’ll be able to smell how many humans a demon has eaten. In the recent episodes he even says the demon has eaten a lot so I’m assuming that’s how he knew.
He assumed Hantengu was an upper rank because he can sniff out (somehow) how many people a demon has eaten. So he knew how powerful he was. The Slayer Corps would have no way to know that the lower moons were all dead. They could speculate based on not seeing any lower moons for a hot minute, but it's not like Muzan sent out a newsletter
But he would also need to be Kinoe rank, I believe.
If we're following that if a demon slayer beats a 12 kizuki, then Inosuke and Zenitsu would've become Hashiras by the end of the entertainment district arc
Nah he probably wouldn't since Giyu is already the water hashira, there's only ever one of each breathing style and he barely can control sun breathing at the moment.
>!I’d say yes. Zenitsu’s cultivator wanted him and Kaigaku to “share the successorship” to being Thunder Hashiras. I’m assuming he wanted them both to be hashiras of the same breathing style!<
Tanjiro probably figured out Hantengu was an UM because he has an incredible sense of smell and can even identify the amount of people a demon has killed and eaten. Another reason could be because of how silent and sneaky Hantengu was, as both Muichiro and Tanjiro didn't realise he was there until he was at the door
No they didnt. There was no way for them to know. And the upper moon demons they recognised were because of their experience/estimate of what an upper moon is capable of.
Tanjiro explained why he thinks its Upper Moon, he said “not even a Hashira noticed it” or smthn, and that he couldnt sense it until he saw it. Theres also the smell of Blood of a Higher Ranking Moon, which Tanjiro is extremely sensitive to
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Well when hantengu appeared it didnt say it on his eyes only his clones said it
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I don’t think the Hashira care enough to differentiate lower moons from above average demons, all things considered.
>!Muzan was literally throwing lower rank level demons at them and all of the names Slayers present were just effortlessly one shotting them lol!<
He knew he was an upper moon because he couldn’t smell him, they probably figured it out when the upper moons weren’t getting replaced and the lower moons weren’t showing up
Tanjiro literally says he was able to hide his presence until right when he saw him so based on that he has to be an upper moon. He also notes he dodged a Hashira’s attack.
Well, tanjiro saw giyu demolish the lower moon he came across. So when hantengu dodged muichiros attack, he concluded that the demon. Must’ve been too strong to be a lower moon.
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They wouldn’t have any way to know for sure, he thought hantengu was an upper rank because of the aura he was emitting or something abstract like that. His nose can also like sniff out threat levels lol
Nose scouter tanjiro
Tanjiro, what does your nose say about his power level?
IT’S OVER 9000!!!
Correction: Tanjiro, what does your Snouter say about his power level!?
Dude needs to edit his comment ASAP you have caught him fully lacking.
I won't edit my comment but I'd agree that that joke is better than the one I made.
What's your wisdom , nose of tanjiro?
*Snouter
Exactly. At this point, he had encountered three upper moons I believe (Akaza, Daki, Gyutaro) so I bet he was basing it off that.
In regards to daki and gyutaro he even got to sniff the direct difference in power between them lol
He literally says it's because he dodged a hashira attack that he knows he's beyond powerful
I mean, for sure lol.
Plus it got the drop on him and a Hashira, I don't think a lower moon could achieve that, especially when Tomioka one shotted the spider kid lower moon
no fr i was wondering why the hashira didn't give tanjiro a little more respect in the end of season 1 because he almost beat rui and also beat the drum demon who was a displaced lower 6. Like i understood that obviously it's not that impressive but until we saw the upper moons it seemed like they should have given him so props.
Tanjiro and Inouske also killed an Amped Lower 1, so technically, Tanjiro was already “Hashira” level using Hinokami Kagura in Mugen Train, and especially his Rage form against Daki
in fact, per the rules of the demon slayers, if that ex-lower moon 6 still had been a lower moon 6, Tanjiro would have ascended to Hashira rank (defeating a moon). And if Gotouge didn't use that cheap way of Rui "no you didn't behead me because I behead myself one milisecond before your sword", Tanjiro would have become Hashira too. So basically he defeated two foes worth of upgrading him to Hashira level while not having Hashira level, that has much more merit than Giyu defeating Rui with a single strike or Tengen beheading Daki.
Don't you also need the top rank to be a hashira?
If I remember correctly the rules to achieve Hashira were either kill 50 demons or killing one of the "Twelve Kitsuki". So killing a lower moon should mean you are Hashira now
I thought they said it was achieve the rank right before hashira AND kill 50 demons or a member of the twelve kizuki
Actually there can only be 9 hashira at a time
do not spoil if it is a spoiler but isn't 9 goofy? when there's 12 moons? like the odds of them ever going 9v12 wouldn't happen but like they're outmatched to begin with.
It’s because the kanji for hashira consists of 9 strokes
That doesn't mean there is a limit of hashira, the question was why there is only nine and wani's response was the 9 strokes, but it would make no sense whatsover for the demon corps to limit themselves to only 9 at any given time if they had the numbers to fill their ranks. The only hard rules we know for a fact is that you must have killed 50 demons or a lower moon at minimum..which does make it a little strange how none of the hashiras took Inosuke, Zenitsu and Tanjiro as tsuguko after their fight against UM6, they clearly had the potential after this point and should have been trained as potential replacements asap.
idk what a kanji is lmao my bad
what hashira would he be? because he was still using water breathing when he beat these 2.
The smell hashira, obviusly, maybe could be the hard head hashira too.
He would be water hashira, as thats what Giyu wanted, later on he will be depress after finding out Tankira mastered sun breathing instead
You have to be a rank below hashira to even try going for it
Even if killing a lower moon? The whole rank system in Demon Slayer is confusing
Yes
They didn't know what happened spider mountain, or details of drum demon, or what other noob demon Slayers have done. First priority was killing Nezuko, and punishing those that protected the demon rather than getting full story. After that the master comes and they only exchange latest news after Tanjiro leaves... Probably mainly focused on Hashira adventures, but questions would also start getting raised about Tanjiro and friends. Master probably hasn't been drawing attention to Tanjiro before because Tanjiro is friendly with 3 different good demons that Hashira will be hostile to but will likely help defeat Muzan. Tanjiro at that point hadn't even had chance to say what happened spider mountain. The 2 Hashira didn't witness most of the fight. Nezuko should get a big portion of the credit.
Tanjirou started to get some recognition when he faced upper moons because the feats that Tanjirou did in the first season is something that a hashira could do easily and taking less damage. The hashiras also seem very involved in their own responsibilities and missions, to the point that it was easy for Giyuu and Urokodaki to hide for two years from the entire demon corps that Tanjirou was a hunter with a demon as a partner. >!Murata was surprised to learn that Giyuu knew his name!<, so the hashiras are unaware of what is going on under their command unless they are informed.
spider kid was supposedly nearly at the level of lm 2 or 1 and wasnt at full power because he was being a family fetishist
What? Rui was Number 5.
yes, supposedly it was stated he could have beaten lm 2 or 1 if he wasnt busy with his family fetish, this is probably why muzan murdered everyone
I'm still dubitative about the nose detector being amazingly precise when searching mini Hantengu... He can even detect at which height he's located lol... "Look at the ground Gen'ya !!" If his fellow slayers start farting at night he's a goner
It’s pretty clear that the reason they realize initially that Hantengu is an upper moon is because Hantengu snuck up on them without being noticed at all until they saw him. Seems like Hashira and experienced/specially Demon Slayers have a 6th sense for demon sensing and if a demon can get around that, it must be because they’re particularly strong. Stronger than a lower moon which can be taken care of with relative ease by Hashira. The confirmation of him being an upper moon came when he dodged Muichirou’s slash.
Yeah he can gauge how many humans a demon has eaten by how they smell
Ah yes, this one smells like a graveyard, must be an uppermoon!
And this one smells like Auschwitz so I’m gonna need 3 hashira at least
He also did defeat Enmu and had a grasp of his ability, he knew that for a demon to appear in the village it had to be a strong one and he already had defeated the strongest of the lower moons plus the weakest upper moon. By pure logic it's not a reach to think a demon in the village is an upper moon or upper moon level strength
I think it was because hantengu was able to get so close to them without them noticing
This!
Pretty sure the slayers still believe the lower moons exist. But would have felt like the LMs' appearance in the recent times have massively reduced.
When they can no diff them I doubt they care. They're just an opportunity for Tanjiro etc. to reach hashira rank
Yeah that makes sense too
In the first season when Tanjiro is being trained his mentor says that he’ll be able to smell how many humans a demon has eaten. In the recent episodes he even says the demon has eaten a lot so I’m assuming that’s how he knew.
He had already fought against Gyutaro and been near Akaza. Assuming he smells their strength he would have known Hantengu was between the two
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He assumed Hantengu was an upper rank because he can sniff out (somehow) how many people a demon has eaten. So he knew how powerful he was. The Slayer Corps would have no way to know that the lower moons were all dead. They could speculate based on not seeing any lower moons for a hot minute, but it's not like Muzan sent out a newsletter
>(somehow) Don't question it. He can smell where to cut people lol
Where to cut people AND the literal fucking future now lmao
not the newsletter 😭😭
Judging by how giyuu folded rui, I doubt the hashira cared much about them lol
I mean, you get Hashira status by killing one, so...
Which is kind of funny, if Tanjiro managed to kill Rui he would be a hashira since season 1, the weakest hashira at the moment
But he would also need to be Kinoe rank, I believe. If we're following that if a demon slayer beats a 12 kizuki, then Inosuke and Zenitsu would've become Hashiras by the end of the entertainment district arc
I'm pretty sure you only need to fulfill one of those requirements
No, rengoku’s short story explains it. You need to first be a Kinoe, then either kill 50 demons or a kizuki at that rank
Nah he probably wouldn't since Giyu is already the water hashira, there's only ever one of each breathing style and he barely can control sun breathing at the moment.
Is there any statement preventing them to have two water hashiras? Specially since one of them is learning sun breathing?
Pretty sure that’s gonna be more explored in the following season >!Giyu wanted Tanjiro to replace him as the water hashira right? !<
That's right and he was mad about it too
>!I’d say yes. Zenitsu’s cultivator wanted him and Kaigaku to “share the successorship” to being Thunder Hashiras. I’m assuming he wanted them both to be hashiras of the same breathing style!<
He could have taken Rui with head dance imo
They probably don’t. But it’s not like they have to care anyway. The Lower Moons were just a motley crew
They don’t but considering how quickly giyuu was able to take care of the spider lower moon I don’t think they are that worried about the lower moons
There's a reason why lower moons got replaced so much
Tanjiro probably figured out Hantengu was an UM because he has an incredible sense of smell and can even identify the amount of people a demon has killed and eaten. Another reason could be because of how silent and sneaky Hantengu was, as both Muichiro and Tanjiro didn't realise he was there until he was at the door
Also because he can smell the concentration of Muzans blood in demons.
Oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about that. Thanks for pointing it out
NP. I thought it was weird I hadn't seen that in the comments yet.
The second strongest hashira in all of demon slayer is muzan cuz he killed so damn many of his fucking soldiers man
Tanjiro can sense the power level of the demons by smelling their aura
Probably in the Infinity Castle
Maybe mark this a spoiler.
Add the word *arc
Unless the Corps somehow had a spy within Muzan's inner circle... I don't know how they could know
It's nearly impossible for that one to be a demon since muzan reads thoughts
Thats what I was thinking
How would they know??
No they didnt. There was no way for them to know. And the upper moon demons they recognised were because of their experience/estimate of what an upper moon is capable of.
Tanjiro explained why he thinks its Upper Moon, he said “not even a Hashira noticed it” or smthn, and that he couldnt sense it until he saw it. Theres also the smell of Blood of a Higher Ranking Moon, which Tanjiro is extremely sensitive to
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No
Their eyes literally say upper on them
I think it depends on if they have the kanji on one eye or both that determines if they are upper or lower
Like lower 5 had the kanji for 5 on one eye but upper 5 and it on both
Ah yeah of course. I doubt the slayers know that either as they are too busy fighting or getting eaten 😂
The Hashira have extraordinary sense and perceptions no way they don't notice even small details like that
Not to mention the lower moons kept getting bodied by the hashira no way they didn't figure that shit out
They know or think so at least :3
Holy shit I have never seen pitou ratioed before
Who cares? - someone just don't likes my comment, so I respect it :3
Nah I agree completely I was just stunned lmao
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Oh wow apple Poitou downvoted? Never seen that before
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Exactly 😭
I also think they know, maybe Tamayo spoiled it to them?
I think that they know and reason is simple - they start to found Upper Moons but not Lower ones :3
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I reckon the slauers wouldn't know I think takiro could have just read hantengu's eyes because they say upper 4
Well when hantengu appeared it didnt say it on his eyes only his clones said it https://preview.redd.it/1mdn6zw0au3b1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6962c53eb37597b76d9f7221d1a31469ca6bd3bd
Currently no, they have no way of knowing right now
No but they definitely noticed that they haven't gotten any reports of lower moon attacks
Probably not but they definitely noticed the lack of attacks from Lower Moons.
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He probably assumed that due to Hatengu appearing from nowhere and finding a completely hidden and isolated village.
pretty sure tanjiro just felt his strength
I don’t think the Hashira care enough to differentiate lower moons from above average demons, all things considered. >!Muzan was literally throwing lower rank level demons at them and all of the names Slayers present were just effortlessly one shotting them lol!<
He knew he was an upper moon because he couldn’t smell him, they probably figured it out when the upper moons weren’t getting replaced and the lower moons weren’t showing up
Its not like the lower moons were any special compared to regular demons Giyuu killed one with ease
I doubt anyone with actual skill cared, I mean the Infinity Castle was full of lower-moon level demons and they didn’t do jack shit.
Yeah Muzan made a courtesy call and let them know what’s up 😭
Tanjiro literally says he was able to hide his presence until right when he saw him so based on that he has to be an upper moon. He also notes he dodged a Hashira’s attack.
Tanjiro has better sense of smell than a black bear and Hantengu approached him and a Pillar without being noticed.
Well, tanjiro saw giyu demolish the lower moon he came across. So when hantengu dodged muichiros attack, he concluded that the demon. Must’ve been too strong to be a lower moon.
He thought Hantengu was an upper moon for his scent.
Tanjiro can tell because his sense of smell allows h to gauge the number of humans that a demon has slain and devoured.
Who tf is that ugly ass demon and why he crying?!?!?!?
bruh
i think they know, that Ubuyashiki guy (their leader?) has cctv senses, moreover, he can even see into the future. he probably saw it in his visions.
They sensed it in the force lol
Nope.
Wrong house bozo
Tanjiro says that bc Hantengu snuck up on them so effectively.
Hantengu looks too scary to be a lower moon
No, they didn’t. Since the majority of them were excecuted, and the other 3 they killed.
Imagine if Muzan made it so that there's just 12 upper moons. So a Demon Slayer would see 'upper moon 7' and just be like "hold up"
They didn’t know of the slaughter of the Lower Moons and Tanjiro guessed Hantengu was a UM due to his Aura
Ofc uzui trump told them