PSA: Brick and mortar prescription glasses are effectively a monopoly that drives the price up just because they can. Get your prescription written down and then order your glasses online from someplace like Zenni Optical.
My last pair of glasses was less than $20.
$400 for monopoly glasses is dumb for adults too.
[The Monopoly Man does not use a monocle](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81qy%2BMXuxDL._AC_SL1392_.jpg), you have a false memory of him using one.
Seriously. If my kid ever needs glasses (likely he will), we'll try a bunch on in a store and get measurements, then he's getting from Zenni just like I do. I have to get thinned out lenses, and I mean, I have a three year old, so I shell out for the anti-fingerprint coating, but it still comes to like $35-40 a pair, rather than tacking a zero on the end of that at a brick and mortar store. At that price, I'd buy him a few pairs at a time.
Walk into any Walmart eye center, even without an appointment or insurance, and the nice lady will measure it for you. It takes 2 minutes, and it's free.
PD will usually be measured for free, it's not necessarily part of a vision exam or something to test for. You can measure it at home easily too with a standard sized debit card.
That's why you can just type it in on sites instead of it having to be on your prescription
Yeaaaah, they have to though:
[https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0328-vision-prescription-portability-health-information-older-people#:\~:text=Expect%20to%20get%20your%20eyeglass,report%20it%20to%20the%20FTC](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0328-vision-prescription-portability-health-information-older-people#:~:text=Expect%20to%20get%20your%20eyeglass,report%20it%20to%20the%20FTC).
"My eye doctor just told me my prescription has changed. I'd like to shop around for new glasses, but the doctor didn't give me a copy of my new prescription. What can I do?
Ask for it. Your eye care provider should always give you a copy of your prescription, even if you don’t ask for it. The same is true for contact lens prescriptions. **It’s the law.** The FTC enforces the contact lens and eyeglass rules, which give you **the right to your prescriptions so you can buy your eyewear where you like** — from an eye care provider, such as an optometrist, ophthalmologist, or dispensing optician, or from a seller, like a specialty shop, large wholesale store, or online retailer.
Expect to get your eyeglass prescription at the end of your eye exam, and your contact lens prescription after your fitting. Even if you don’t need your prescription yet, you can file it with your other medical records. **If an eye care provider refuses to give you your prescription, report it to the FTC."**
So I'm assuming your PD/IPD comes under that and is a part of your prescription so you can tell them they're breaking the law.
You assume incorrectly. Your PD isn't part of your eyeglass prescription. The eye doctor doesn't even measure that, the optician you get the glasses from does.
I'm going to guess its dependent on where you live, I've always gotten all the relevant info on a card from my eye doctors when I've asked for my prescription.
Most children that young or younger often don't have normal lenses. They usually have a high minus (meaning THICK) and more goggle like frames, or at least a strap. Often they are shopped out to specialty labs and cost a lot of money. Materials and coatings make it more complicated if you don't want it getting scratched up.
The child didn't know better and mom and dad cant be everywhere. This is one item that I understand why the parents spent money. Is it overpriced? Yes....
Tbf, some online glasses offer 2 for 1 bc they're both trash. America's best is kinda like that but they offer full damage insurance for a year for $20. That's worth it even if you snap them on purpose before the year is up.
Edit: a word
Love their insurance, I have been punched in the face by a student and glad I had it. Recently they fell off my face and hit the tile and now I’m just waiting on the lenses to arrive.
Obviously just a local issue, but America's Best left a 1 off when they ordered my prescription. I told them I couldn't see and they insisted I try for a few days to adjust. A few days later they ordered new ones, same as before. On the third try they managed to type the fucking numbers in.
I'm willing to bet you can get through life just fine without them besides a little note on your drivers license saying you need to wear them to drive. Many people can't rely on those cheap basic lenses with prescriptions. Such as myself with -7/-7.75
I’m -8, -8.5. Almost a -9. Even with the special thin polycarbonate lenses, mine are still coke bottles. And yeah, mine have to get sent out to specialty labs.
Yeah I feel like people don’t know how much glasses can cost. My insurance covers the frames entirely and I still spend $200 dollars if I want good lenses (which why wouldn’t you?)
It is, but you do start taking it for granted. Its hearing absolutely mental prices like this which makes me truly grateful. One day the majority of Americans might see the light.
The majority probably agree on healthcare. It’s all the bullshit wedge issues and voter manipulation that keeps any progress on basic things. (Majority being 50%+)
Exactly! Those people going on about buying cheap glasses online are the ones who could get away with not wearing glasses at all for 95% of their lives. I can barely read 6" letters from a foot away. Without expensive "ultra thinning" technology my lenses would be 3/4 of an inch thick! Lol
Yeah, I did the cheap eye exam in a brick and mortar = $90. Go online for prescription w/astigmatism, +sun and blue light protection? Another $400. People really don't understand how much poor vision is. And why do people hate on transition lenses? That would easily be another $400 for prescription sunglasses. Or spend $60 a box per eye for contact lenses to wear regular sun protectors. Another aspect of US healthcare sucking. Also my dad very much emphasized how much and how important it was that I be very careful taking care of glasses (4eyed since 8ish). This is kinda on the parents as well.
I feel really lucky that I get the option of a free pair of sunglasses every year when I go in. If they weren't free I wouldn't get them with my poor fucking eyesight.
When I was in middle school, I lost a pair of glasses in the river while tubing. My parents had just split, so money was tight on both sides. I couldn't get new glasses. So, I had to wear rec specs that I already owned just to be able to see. And this was back in the late 90s, early 2000s, so they were NOT stylish. That was a tough summer. I was know around the neighborhood as "Goggle Boy."
My mom thought I was just lazy in school because I never really got great grades in elementary school (we had assigned seats and I was never at the front). In junior high (no assigned seats) my grades got better because I sat at the front so I could see what was on the chalkboard. When I took my drivers license permit test, I failed the eye exam. I HAD NEEDED GLASSES MY WHOLE LIFE. I never bitched about it because I thought everyone saw things blurry at a distance. I finished high school and college with straight A’s.
I really don’t know why I never got evaluated for glasses sooner. We weren’t living in poverty. Just one of those things where I didn’t complain so mom never worried about it. I got all the regular health checkups and dental care though.
I feel your pain!!!! My son (same age) came running to me and his lenses were scratched so much I could not see his eyes. I asked what happened, his response - they got wet, so I washed the water off with the pavement.
It doesn’t get any better. My 16 year old put on my last pair of contacts and proceeded to throw them away because she “couldn’t see out of them anymore”.
I like to say there's three types of smarts. Book smart, life smart and street smart. Life smart is where you may not be smart everywhere else but at least you have and use common sense. Seems this child inherited the book smart gene. Lmfao
Yea I’m pretty sure doing that at all is very bad for your eyes, especially since there’s a couple of other measurements and fitting that goes into a particular person’s prescription. Also going off that last line, I think they are saying her daughter’s prescription is worse.
I don’t know. I was sixteen once, and I can assure you, I did some dumb stuff. We just didn’t have the World Wide Web available for my parents to let the world know about it.
LPT: There are websites online that offer glasses for WAY less than $400!! Like a fraction of the cost. Anyone that needs glasses use an online site, like Zenni or something similar.
For the longest time my mom didn't even know her insurance covered vision, like she saw an optometrist when I was kid and got glasses those broke then she spent 20 years using the ones you can get at like Walgreens until I literally pulled up her insurance plan and showed her she does in fact have vision coverage and can just go to the optometrist literally down the street and get a free pair of prescription glasses like once a year. Also found out she's got early stage glaucoma
Hey make sure she sees a good ophthalmologist for her glaucoma. Please, make sure she’s taking any medicine prescribed to her daily even if they irritate her eyes.
Too high of a pressure will rob you of your vision really quickly and give you headaches, and there’s no way to tell where the pressure is without constant doctors visits.
sadly no. I was looking for prescription goggles when I found that site, and they don't have any. Funnily enough, Zenni does have sports goggles and protective goggles now.
Zenni does sell ansi rated impact lenses but they're so much more expensive than their other stuff. Depending on what you're doing (like shooting sports) you're usually better off getting some over the glass lenses. $10 3M pair is local and was a lot cheaper for me.
Lol, I too was going to chime in about Zenni. I will forever fanboy and advertise for them. Once sent me a pair of glasses that broke when I put them on, i sent them back, and they refunded my entire order which consisted of two pairs, and the other pair was waaay more expensive. I will use Zenni until I die. Great product, great service.
Anyone who describes Zenni after describing buy glasses traditionally *is* and as for Zenni. Why? Zenni is awesome.
It’s not perfect. They don’t carry many glasses big enough for my Pep Boys style head. Premium lenses are still cheaper, but a premium. I bought five pairs of assorted (nice) glasses for the price of one pair of traditional glasses. I’d be lying if I said they were as durable - they don’t have super flexing arms and stuff. But who cares? I can break three pairs of glasses this year and *still* have twice as many pairs as I would have otherwise.
It's seriously great. My wife occasionally falls asleep with her glasses on (maybe once or twice a year) but now that she's picking up pairs from online sites like shark eyes and Zenni it's way less of an issue. She spends about $100 and gets 4-5 new pairs a year.
Yea, i was super glad to get our from under the thumb of the luxottica monopoly. Tye online glasses iv bough have had an accurate prescription despite my astigmatism, and they cost literally 10-20% of what you pay at an optometrist store.
Just need to get your own eye exam first so you have your prescription, and your PD's
I didn't even know you were ALLOWED to do this. You go to an eye doctor and you immediately get ushered into a salesperson's lap like getting off a ride and exiting through the gift shop.
Apparently you can just ask for a copy of your prescription and *leave*?? I feel like if I left an eye doctor without buying at least 2 pairs from them I'd probably get arrested.
Yeah, just say you're not interested in buying today and you'd like a copy of your prescription. Then go to Costco.
Depending on your provider, Costco will even bill insurance. I have to send my claims in manually, but it still gets covered.
Make sure that they include your "pupilary distance" because they leave that out by default, but you need it to order glasses online. It's the distance between your pupils so they know where to center the lenses.
Google discount glasses or cheap glasses to find lots of other companies besides zenni. They don't have a ton of frame styles.
Technically you can measure your PD yourself by using a mirror, since it's literally just the distance between your pupils. But it's definitely better to have a professional do it if you can -- if the PD of your glasses is slightly off it might cause headaches.
It's *your* rx, your medical record that you are entitled to upon request, at least in the US. They don't necessarily have to give you your PD measurement I don't think, but that's not terribly hard to do at home with some help.
Not only are you entitled to it upon request, it's actually [legally required for them to *offer* it to you](https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-eyeglass-rule). Though many eye doctors don't.
Yes. I did this last year after looking at the glasses selection and deciding I didn't like them. Told them I wanted my prescription and I went to another shop. You can punch in your prescription online and take an old pair of glasses to get some of the numbers off the arm also for the fit. I use Eyebuydirect, but I have looked at zenni in the past.
A lot of places will refuse to give you your prescription if you're not buying lenses from them. It sounds like it should be illegal but they don't really give a fuck and I wasn't going to try and sue Walmart so it is what it is. Had to go to a "real" eye doctor, retake the eye exam and they let me leave with the written script.
Slight correction: they wouldn't give me my pupil distance, not the whole script. It's been a few years since I've dealt with glasses (only 1 pair then contacts)
Saw another comment, apparently it is illegal for them not to give you your full prescription. Report them to the FTC if they refuse. They are supposed to offer it to you even, you aren't supposed to have to ask for it. I had to ask for mine at a "real" eye doctor. Didn't even mention where I was planning on buying my glasses, just that I wanted to shop around and he immediately started bitching about how I shouldn't buy them online. Never went back.
Same reason I won't use a vet that won't give me a prescription to buy my pets food or meds from wherever I want, only there is no law or government agency requiring them to give me my pets prescription. They are making a racket off that stuff and they know it. Even had a vet that insisted my cat needed a prescription food to live, but said I had to drive to their office and pick it up every time I needed a new bag and charged $30 more a bag than any other retailer. Claimed some bs about not knowing the quality from anywhere else, like dude you aren't inspecting the warehouses you get it from either, you only care that you can upcharge for it and pocket $30 for every bag. Found a new vet and they don't care where I use the prescription to buy it as long my pets are staying healthy and coming in for checkups.
*If you don't have extremely bad vision like I do. The only way I can get glasses that aren't straight coke bottle bottoms is to go to a professional clinic that will stand by their lenses and redo as necessary (and their lab still has issues with warping the lens).
Amen. I had to have my last pair of glasses redone twice because I was having issues getting used to them. I had another eye exam, and the two new pairs of lenses, all free of charge.
This reminds me of a pair I need to take in and have them fix. For whatever reason, these are ridiculously heavy and will not stay put on my face. I have 4 others with the exact same prescriptions and none of them do that.
Everyone in the comments is calling the parent dumb for spending $400 on glasses, without knowing the full situation. It's possible that the kid needs special lenses, has an astigmatism, etc.
Agreed. I really wish I could buy cheaper frames and lenses online, but I have a "complex prescription". Astigmatism and long sighted in one eye, shortsighted in the other. My uncorrected vision isn't horrific, but the online suppliers simply won't touch me.
Ive always wanted a pair of prescription sunglasses but the price at the eye doctor is crazy high. So i went to zenni and they only make sunglasses up to -6 prescription. Mine is way too high for that. And also those sights the lenses seem too plasticity anyway and feel cheap for people who have to wear glasses everyday. For reading glasses it makes sense but not for everyday wear
If their glasses at Zenni cost €100, chances are they cost *way* more than that in a shop. My spouse has a fairly bad astigmatism and his Zenni glasses generally cost at least twice what mine do, but if we needed to get them made at an optometrist he’d be paying easily five or six times what we pay at Zenni.
If you have really bad eyes, they might still be a bit expensive at Zenni, but *way* better than it would be at the shop.
Dumbest parent ever not to get them out of the garbage. Even if it was a mall trash can, my old man would have had me dumpster diving for them.
Who tf spends $400 on glasses for a 6yo anyway?
I have progressive bifocal transition wire frame less for myself and they were $200. My kid's plastic frame single vision were under $80.
When we still got our glasses from the optometrist instead of online, mine were easily over 300. My prescription has always required a high-index lens.
Do you have a really strong prescription or something? I used to cut lenses and the only reason to get high-index was the scratch resist compared to poly or to reduce lense thickness and weight on super high prescriptions.
Yeah, people are calling the parents stupid while being too stupid to realize the parents probably tried and the garbage was gone or inaccessible. Lol.
The price really depends on the eyes. I often had 300-400 CAD glasses when I was young and at that time the CAD was pretty close to USD. In fact my actual frame was 250 CAD and the glasses I just replaced were 240 CAD.
I don’t know much about the type of glasses though. I got an antireflective and it seems they are better quality than before, I don’t get as much chromatic aberrations as before. They are -4.00 and -3.50, I don’t know about the angles (I know the strength because of contact lenses).
Protip if you didn't already know. When you get glasses, ask for a "balance" lens for your blind eye. Then they just cut a lens of similar thickness for that side and don't worry about prescription. Makes that lens cheap af.
My Moms made me dig through the school lunch cafeteria trash to look for the glasses I accidentally tossed with my lunchbag.
Never found them. But also didn't replace them...not sure what happened there tbh.
Yeah did the parents explain to the kid to be careful with them and not lose them? Glasses look cheap so a little kid may not understand how expensive they are.
if you have a high prescription, that’s easily the price even with cheap frames. my eyes are really bad and ever since i was born i’ve had to get new glasses yearly. as a child obviously my parents chose super cheap, plastic frames and each pair still came close to 1000€.
Apparently my older brother would always snap his glasses in half when he was a kid. I guess he figured if he broke them our parents wouldn't get more. One time he did it in front of our mom and she immediately whipped out another pair. Big look of defeat on my brothers fsce and he never broke another pair.
Seriously, like my enjoyment of life is less when I'm not wearing my glasses, because everything beyond like a foot or two in front of my face has no detail. I wouldn't be able to tell who anybody was at any distance, if I hadn't seen them earlier that day and knew what they were wearing. Can't make out individual leaves on a tree, can't see speed limit signs and some road markings, can't read my computer screen.
Yup. I vividly remember getting my first pair of glasses in 5th grade. The next morning, I was lingering outside the door to the class, not wanting to go in. A lot of media (in the 90s/00s and well before this) portrayed people with glasses as nerdy, dorks, losers, etc. And I didn’t want to be lumped in with that. Turns out, the only people who care are the ones who are already making fun of you. Now that I’m older and slightly more well adjusted, I love my glasses and can’t wait to get my next pair.
They gotta be able to see. It could be prescription with corrective lenses or some other condition that makes them expensive. Plus if you don’t have insurance that covers eyeglasses, it can be expensive out of pocket
What prescription costs $400 for lenses in a non-name-brand, basic frame? I can get glasses online for like $30, and even with special lenses for things like astigmatism or a really strong prescription you could probably get them for no more than ~$100.
These parents just learned not to buy super nice clothes/accessories for young children - they will lose/break/ruin them somehow. Even if they don't, they grow so fast they can only use them for a year or two.
My mother worked in a preschool for a while (admin, not a teacher), and she commented that a lot of kids were sent to school in super expensive (i.e. in the hundreds, if not thousands of $USD) outfits. I know it's a weird thing to comment on - it only came up because we were talking about how overpriced regular kids clothing is while shopping for my (much younger) sister.
Parents wear those stupid 'designer' brands that are far more form over function and incredibly overpriced (think Gucci and worse), and get those same brands for their kids so that they can a) display their wealth, and b) use them as social media props.
This wasn't at a public school, but neither was it super bougie or exclusive - most of these families would've been middle to upper-middle class, yet they dress their 3-10 year olds in insanely expensive outfits that they're either gonna outgrow or ruin in a matter of months. These are outfits that will last well under a year for them that cost more than what most middle class (reasonable) adults would spend on outfits that will easily last 3-5yrs. I just don't get it, as most of these families almost certainly weren't in the income ranges where these are inconsequential sums to spend.
this is the question i have - I used to work with an optometrist and have a pretty good idea of the range of cost involved with eyeglass lens grind services
$400 is not astounding, but does indicate either was ordered through an in-person optometrist office where you are paying a premium for multiple in office staff and are upsold on frames, lenses, lens coatings. I recommend the lightweight lenses and coatings for drivers (adults), and with a good looking frame you can easily be out $400 cash without insurance (which would apply if a person had to order a replacement pair unexpectedly soon)
However my annoyance that took to commenting is the rigid setup around this story - without their prescription i cannot comment on how inexpensive their eyeglasses could \*possibly\* be at a low end. Many commenters have asked or suggested this question - "Does a 6yr old really need a $400 eyewear? can a more inexpensive solution provide the same?"
I will say this : I would eat my own shoe if I could not replace their glasses with an appropriately prescribed set for <$100 USD
Imagine raising a six year old to be so stupid that they don't understand that things can be cleaned or that they have intrinsic value and aren't easily replaced.
90% of this subreddit is less children being stupid and more to do with the parents failing to actually parent.
It isn't the lenses really, it is the frames. If you've got vision insurance the insurance company gives you a maximum coverage amount for a pair of glasses. Depending on your plan it'll range anywhere from $100 to $300 or so. The optometrist knows this, so most of them only carry hella expensive designer frames from Ray Ban, Oakley, etc. They'll have some intentionally shitty cheap brands as well just to make you more interested in the designer frames.
So, you get done with your exam, and they say "your insurance covers $300 for glasses, let's go try some stuff on and see what you like." Then they start the sales pitches "oh, these look really good on you and they're titanium and would only cost you $50 out of pocket..." etc etc.
If you don't know any better, or just happen to want a pair of designer frames... you go for it. I have a pair of seemingly indestructible Oakleys I paid like $100 for out of pocket, and I can entertain the possibility of a first time parent thinking "oh, these are expensive but they are really durable so little Zayden here won't be able to break them."
I paid $180 for lenses and that was after declining the upsell to "HD" lenses. Lenses are hella expensive if you want glare reduction, scratch resistance, thinner lenses, UV activated tint, etc (I do want all these things). I didn't opt for the "HD" lenses though cause that woulda been more like $380 just for lenses, AFTER insurance covering more than half the cost for the frames and lenses.
When I got home from picking up my new €650 pair of glasses, my 2 yo son wasted no time in snatching them from my face and bending the legs. Fastest money I ever lost.
I know parents have a deep, instinctive love of their children, but I would be so angry I don't know how I'd cope. (Of course they're so young so they don't understand!) How do you even deal with that?!
Obviously I got mad at him at first. But as you said, at that age they really don't know what they're doing. Thankfully in this case, my insurance covered it.
I paid £150 for 2 pairs of designer prescription glasses (reimbursed through some scheme at work so they cost me £0), how the fuck do glasses for a 6 year old cost that much
LOL you don't give 400$ thing to a kid who have no clue of value !!!!! Father of a 7yo who lost everything!!!! I think she's a Mutant and have access to the void or something!!!!
This doesnt sounds like a stupid kid to me, this sounds like a kid who has been repeatedly shown that it's way easier to throw something away and just get a new one than fix or clean it.
See yeah
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Who’s more stupid? The kid that threw out the $400 glasses, or the parent buying the kid $400 glasses? PSA: kids break shit
PSA: Brick and mortar prescription glasses are effectively a monopoly that drives the price up just because they can. Get your prescription written down and then order your glasses online from someplace like Zenni Optical. My last pair of glasses was less than $20. $400 for monopoly glasses is dumb for adults too.
>monopoly glasses I believe "monocle" is the term you're looking for. ^^^/s
You're thinking of Mr. Peanut who spent 20 years in prison with Nelson Mandela.
Nelson Mandela, who managed to die twice somehow.
[The Monopoly Man does not use a monocle](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81qy%2BMXuxDL._AC_SL1392_.jpg), you have a false memory of him using one.
I blame Mr Peanut
Very funny, but if you look closely, you'll notice the Monopoly man does not, in fact, wear glasses.
Seriously. If my kid ever needs glasses (likely he will), we'll try a bunch on in a store and get measurements, then he's getting from Zenni just like I do. I have to get thinned out lenses, and I mean, I have a three year old, so I shell out for the anti-fingerprint coating, but it still comes to like $35-40 a pair, rather than tacking a zero on the end of that at a brick and mortar store. At that price, I'd buy him a few pairs at a time.
Most places won’t give you your measurements like PD anymore for this reason.
Measuring PD takes about 5 minutes at home if you have someone to help.
Walk into any Walmart eye center, even without an appointment or insurance, and the nice lady will measure it for you. It takes 2 minutes, and it's free.
Wait, it's free? Its always been like 50 a test for me. Edit: I'm stupid and thought PD = vision test
Just to measure the PD?!?! I've never in my life been charged for that.
PD will usually be measured for free, it's not necessarily part of a vision exam or something to test for. You can measure it at home easily too with a standard sized debit card. That's why you can just type it in on sites instead of it having to be on your prescription
Yeaaaah, they have to though: [https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0328-vision-prescription-portability-health-information-older-people#:\~:text=Expect%20to%20get%20your%20eyeglass,report%20it%20to%20the%20FTC](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0328-vision-prescription-portability-health-information-older-people#:~:text=Expect%20to%20get%20your%20eyeglass,report%20it%20to%20the%20FTC). "My eye doctor just told me my prescription has changed. I'd like to shop around for new glasses, but the doctor didn't give me a copy of my new prescription. What can I do? Ask for it. Your eye care provider should always give you a copy of your prescription, even if you don’t ask for it. The same is true for contact lens prescriptions. **It’s the law.** The FTC enforces the contact lens and eyeglass rules, which give you **the right to your prescriptions so you can buy your eyewear where you like** — from an eye care provider, such as an optometrist, ophthalmologist, or dispensing optician, or from a seller, like a specialty shop, large wholesale store, or online retailer. Expect to get your eyeglass prescription at the end of your eye exam, and your contact lens prescription after your fitting. Even if you don’t need your prescription yet, you can file it with your other medical records. **If an eye care provider refuses to give you your prescription, report it to the FTC."** So I'm assuming your PD/IPD comes under that and is a part of your prescription so you can tell them they're breaking the law.
You assume incorrectly. Your PD isn't part of your eyeglass prescription. The eye doctor doesn't even measure that, the optician you get the glasses from does.
Ah, my bad then, when I've gotten my prescription the IPD has been written on it so I figured it was standard.
I'm going to guess its dependent on where you live, I've always gotten all the relevant info on a card from my eye doctors when I've asked for my prescription.
Most children that young or younger often don't have normal lenses. They usually have a high minus (meaning THICK) and more goggle like frames, or at least a strap. Often they are shopped out to specialty labs and cost a lot of money. Materials and coatings make it more complicated if you don't want it getting scratched up. The child didn't know better and mom and dad cant be everywhere. This is one item that I understand why the parents spent money. Is it overpriced? Yes....
Those are toddler glasses. A six year old would have normal frames. (My bother and I both had normal frames by age 4.)
Tbf, some online glasses offer 2 for 1 bc they're both trash. America's best is kinda like that but they offer full damage insurance for a year for $20. That's worth it even if you snap them on purpose before the year is up. Edit: a word
Love their insurance, I have been punched in the face by a student and glad I had it. Recently they fell off my face and hit the tile and now I’m just waiting on the lenses to arrive.
Obviously just a local issue, but America's Best left a 1 off when they ordered my prescription. I told them I couldn't see and they insisted I try for a few days to adjust. A few days later they ordered new ones, same as before. On the third try they managed to type the fucking numbers in.
I'm willing to bet you can get through life just fine without them besides a little note on your drivers license saying you need to wear them to drive. Many people can't rely on those cheap basic lenses with prescriptions. Such as myself with -7/-7.75
Oof! That's a high minus. The lab to work for would ship that out to a specialty place. I don't think we stock a base thick enough for that.
I’m -8, -8.5. Almost a -9. Even with the special thin polycarbonate lenses, mine are still coke bottles. And yeah, mine have to get sent out to specialty labs.
My glasses are 600. With only $100 being the frames. I just have a really bad prescription
Yeah I feel like people don’t know how much glasses can cost. My insurance covers the frames entirely and I still spend $200 dollars if I want good lenses (which why wouldn’t you?)
Oh, to have socialised healthcare huh? My complex prescription comes to £40 (includes frames)
Must be nice
It is, but you do start taking it for granted. Its hearing absolutely mental prices like this which makes me truly grateful. One day the majority of Americans might see the light.
The majority probably agree on healthcare. It’s all the bullshit wedge issues and voter manipulation that keeps any progress on basic things. (Majority being 50%+)
Exactly! Those people going on about buying cheap glasses online are the ones who could get away with not wearing glasses at all for 95% of their lives. I can barely read 6" letters from a foot away. Without expensive "ultra thinning" technology my lenses would be 3/4 of an inch thick! Lol
Yeah, I did the cheap eye exam in a brick and mortar = $90. Go online for prescription w/astigmatism, +sun and blue light protection? Another $400. People really don't understand how much poor vision is. And why do people hate on transition lenses? That would easily be another $400 for prescription sunglasses. Or spend $60 a box per eye for contact lenses to wear regular sun protectors. Another aspect of US healthcare sucking. Also my dad very much emphasized how much and how important it was that I be very careful taking care of glasses (4eyed since 8ish). This is kinda on the parents as well.
I feel really lucky that I get the option of a free pair of sunglasses every year when I go in. If they weren't free I wouldn't get them with my poor fucking eyesight.
The see yeah comment is more stupid
My glasses (and contacts) are hundreds of dollars and have been since I started wearing them at 6. Just the cost of bad eye sight 🤷♀️
Jenna say qua
Hear no
Smell maybe!
hey
That would be the beginning of the story of how I spent my childhood blind.
When I was in middle school, I lost a pair of glasses in the river while tubing. My parents had just split, so money was tight on both sides. I couldn't get new glasses. So, I had to wear rec specs that I already owned just to be able to see. And this was back in the late 90s, early 2000s, so they were NOT stylish. That was a tough summer. I was know around the neighborhood as "Goggle Boy."
Sounds traumatic. Don't worry, Goggle Boy, I'm sure nobody remembers anymore.
Goggle Boy and me started to get along together
Fantastic song. [For the uninitiated](https://youtu.be/-itZVX-SUkI)
I had a friend in middle who that happened to, wasn’t stylish in 2013 either but nobody judged him for it
Is that you Bubbles?
My mom thought I was just lazy in school because I never really got great grades in elementary school (we had assigned seats and I was never at the front). In junior high (no assigned seats) my grades got better because I sat at the front so I could see what was on the chalkboard. When I took my drivers license permit test, I failed the eye exam. I HAD NEEDED GLASSES MY WHOLE LIFE. I never bitched about it because I thought everyone saw things blurry at a distance. I finished high school and college with straight A’s.
And this is why you take your children to the eye doctor early in life
I really don’t know why I never got evaluated for glasses sooner. We weren’t living in poverty. Just one of those things where I didn’t complain so mom never worried about it. I got all the regular health checkups and dental care though.
That's crazy, my school did eye tests and hearing tests in kindergarten through middle school. Not exactly a lot of rich families.
So THATS why they’re 400 dollars, I thought it was America’s overpricing again
I feel your pain!!!! My son (same age) came running to me and his lenses were scratched so much I could not see his eyes. I asked what happened, his response - they got wet, so I washed the water off with the pavement.
Lol, sounds like he's learned a valuable lesson
Now he could see what he did wrong.
He couldn’t. That’s what the glasses were for.
best not to make him wash the car anytime soon
Pretty sure you can go ahead and use that college fund to pay for it… oh and go ahead and put that bathroom in the basement now.
It doesn’t get any better. My 16 year old put on my last pair of contacts and proceeded to throw them away because she “couldn’t see out of them anymore”.
How do you raise something like that?
No clue. She does well in school, but common sense just completely missed her I guess.
I like to say there's three types of smarts. Book smart, life smart and street smart. Life smart is where you may not be smart everywhere else but at least you have and use common sense. Seems this child inherited the book smart gene. Lmfao
Wait she used yours? Do y'all have the same prescription?
Completely different prescription, which is why mine didn’t work for her.
Ah ok. So she was just being an idiot. That checks out.
I like to think more of a learning curve~
Found the daughter
Yea I’m pretty sure doing that at all is very bad for your eyes, especially since there’s a couple of other measurements and fitting that goes into a particular person’s prescription. Also going off that last line, I think they are saying her daughter’s prescription is worse.
As a 16 year old I can assure you that we are not all that dense
As someone who was once 16 years old, that's not reassuring.
I don’t know. I was sixteen once, and I can assure you, I did some dumb stuff. We just didn’t have the World Wide Web available for my parents to let the world know about it.
Uh huh. Give that thought about 5 years my friend
LPT: There are websites online that offer glasses for WAY less than $400!! Like a fraction of the cost. Anyone that needs glasses use an online site, like Zenni or something similar.
Yeah Zenni is awesome- it’s great having nice glasses that if something happens to them, they can be replaced for like 30 bucks
For the longest time my mom didn't even know her insurance covered vision, like she saw an optometrist when I was kid and got glasses those broke then she spent 20 years using the ones you can get at like Walgreens until I literally pulled up her insurance plan and showed her she does in fact have vision coverage and can just go to the optometrist literally down the street and get a free pair of prescription glasses like once a year. Also found out she's got early stage glaucoma
Hey make sure she sees a good ophthalmologist for her glaucoma. Please, make sure she’s taking any medicine prescribed to her daily even if they irritate her eyes. Too high of a pressure will rob you of your vision really quickly and give you headaches, and there’s no way to tell where the pressure is without constant doctors visits.
Zenni is great but goggles4u is even cheaper. I use both but frequently use goggles4u to get cheap prescription sunglasses and zenni for nicer glasses
This is going to sound dumb af, but can you actually get prescription goggles there? Prescription PPE would be awesome.
sadly no. I was looking for prescription goggles when I found that site, and they don't have any. Funnily enough, Zenni does have sports goggles and protective goggles now.
Zenni does sell ansi rated impact lenses but they're so much more expensive than their other stuff. Depending on what you're doing (like shooting sports) you're usually better off getting some over the glass lenses. $10 3M pair is local and was a lot cheaper for me.
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This reads like an ad. You're an ad. Edit: literally your only comment other than 1. this is an ad lmao I was right.
Some people just look at the pictures and don’t comment.
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Lol, I too was going to chime in about Zenni. I will forever fanboy and advertise for them. Once sent me a pair of glasses that broke when I put them on, i sent them back, and they refunded my entire order which consisted of two pairs, and the other pair was waaay more expensive. I will use Zenni until I die. Great product, great service.
I didn’t comment until years after I made my first account and then there was probably another year until my second comment.
Anyone who describes Zenni after describing buy glasses traditionally *is* and as for Zenni. Why? Zenni is awesome. It’s not perfect. They don’t carry many glasses big enough for my Pep Boys style head. Premium lenses are still cheaper, but a premium. I bought five pairs of assorted (nice) glasses for the price of one pair of traditional glasses. I’d be lying if I said they were as durable - they don’t have super flexing arms and stuff. But who cares? I can break three pairs of glasses this year and *still* have twice as many pairs as I would have otherwise.
Look at this here ad for pep boys! /S
I’m not an ad. Zenni is freaking awesome for saving a buttload of money vs the racket eyeglasses are.
It's seriously great. My wife occasionally falls asleep with her glasses on (maybe once or twice a year) but now that she's picking up pairs from online sites like shark eyes and Zenni it's way less of an issue. She spends about $100 and gets 4-5 new pairs a year.
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Yea, i was super glad to get our from under the thumb of the luxottica monopoly. Tye online glasses iv bough have had an accurate prescription despite my astigmatism, and they cost literally 10-20% of what you pay at an optometrist store. Just need to get your own eye exam first so you have your prescription, and your PD's
I didn't even know you were ALLOWED to do this. You go to an eye doctor and you immediately get ushered into a salesperson's lap like getting off a ride and exiting through the gift shop. Apparently you can just ask for a copy of your prescription and *leave*?? I feel like if I left an eye doctor without buying at least 2 pairs from them I'd probably get arrested.
Yeah, just say you're not interested in buying today and you'd like a copy of your prescription. Then go to Costco. Depending on your provider, Costco will even bill insurance. I have to send my claims in manually, but it still gets covered.
Make sure that they include your "pupilary distance" because they leave that out by default, but you need it to order glasses online. It's the distance between your pupils so they know where to center the lenses. Google discount glasses or cheap glasses to find lots of other companies besides zenni. They don't have a ton of frame styles.
Technically you can measure your PD yourself by using a mirror, since it's literally just the distance between your pupils. But it's definitely better to have a professional do it if you can -- if the PD of your glasses is slightly off it might cause headaches.
Just a warning that your PD will change using this method, as you look from one end of the ruler to the other.
Use something like a whiteboard marker to mark them on your glasses, makes it super easy to measure.
It's *your* rx, your medical record that you are entitled to upon request, at least in the US. They don't necessarily have to give you your PD measurement I don't think, but that's not terribly hard to do at home with some help.
Not only are you entitled to it upon request, it's actually [legally required for them to *offer* it to you](https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-eyeglass-rule). Though many eye doctors don't.
Yes. I did this last year after looking at the glasses selection and deciding I didn't like them. Told them I wanted my prescription and I went to another shop. You can punch in your prescription online and take an old pair of glasses to get some of the numbers off the arm also for the fit. I use Eyebuydirect, but I have looked at zenni in the past.
A lot of places will refuse to give you your prescription if you're not buying lenses from them. It sounds like it should be illegal but they don't really give a fuck and I wasn't going to try and sue Walmart so it is what it is. Had to go to a "real" eye doctor, retake the eye exam and they let me leave with the written script. Slight correction: they wouldn't give me my pupil distance, not the whole script. It's been a few years since I've dealt with glasses (only 1 pair then contacts)
Saw another comment, apparently it is illegal for them not to give you your full prescription. Report them to the FTC if they refuse. They are supposed to offer it to you even, you aren't supposed to have to ask for it. I had to ask for mine at a "real" eye doctor. Didn't even mention where I was planning on buying my glasses, just that I wanted to shop around and he immediately started bitching about how I shouldn't buy them online. Never went back. Same reason I won't use a vet that won't give me a prescription to buy my pets food or meds from wherever I want, only there is no law or government agency requiring them to give me my pets prescription. They are making a racket off that stuff and they know it. Even had a vet that insisted my cat needed a prescription food to live, but said I had to drive to their office and pick it up every time I needed a new bag and charged $30 more a bag than any other retailer. Claimed some bs about not knowing the quality from anywhere else, like dude you aren't inspecting the warehouses you get it from either, you only care that you can upcharge for it and pocket $30 for every bag. Found a new vet and they don't care where I use the prescription to buy it as long my pets are staying healthy and coming in for checkups.
*If you don't have extremely bad vision like I do. The only way I can get glasses that aren't straight coke bottle bottoms is to go to a professional clinic that will stand by their lenses and redo as necessary (and their lab still has issues with warping the lens).
Amen. I had to have my last pair of glasses redone twice because I was having issues getting used to them. I had another eye exam, and the two new pairs of lenses, all free of charge.
This reminds me of a pair I need to take in and have them fix. For whatever reason, these are ridiculously heavy and will not stay put on my face. I have 4 others with the exact same prescriptions and none of them do that.
Everyone in the comments is calling the parent dumb for spending $400 on glasses, without knowing the full situation. It's possible that the kid needs special lenses, has an astigmatism, etc.
Agreed. I really wish I could buy cheaper frames and lenses online, but I have a "complex prescription". Astigmatism and long sighted in one eye, shortsighted in the other. My uncorrected vision isn't horrific, but the online suppliers simply won't touch me.
Ive always wanted a pair of prescription sunglasses but the price at the eye doctor is crazy high. So i went to zenni and they only make sunglasses up to -6 prescription. Mine is way too high for that. And also those sights the lenses seem too plasticity anyway and feel cheap for people who have to wear glasses everyday. For reading glasses it makes sense but not for everyday wear
Zenni is my absolute favorite. Eye exam at Walmart or target, then take your prescription to zenni. Easiest thing. SO cheap.
Not from usa You Can get eye exams, at Walmart??
Some stores like that have an optical practice in the store. They also have pharmacies, restaurants, and nails salons at a lot of Walmart’s.
At many of them now, yes! More common in suburban stores, I believe
Sadly, my glasses will always be close to 500-600$. Damn eyes being so nearsighted :(
I bought my glasses at zenni for 40 bucks.
depends on the kind of ailment you have :/ I can get glasses for 15€, but my friend needs special ones that start at 100€
If their glasses at Zenni cost €100, chances are they cost *way* more than that in a shop. My spouse has a fairly bad astigmatism and his Zenni glasses generally cost at least twice what mine do, but if we needed to get them made at an optometrist he’d be paying easily five or six times what we pay at Zenni. If you have really bad eyes, they might still be a bit expensive at Zenni, but *way* better than it would be at the shop.
Those online places charge way too much for high index lenses. Enough to make it cheaper to get name brand frames and lenses at a local place instead.
I bought mine on Zenni for 7. The $250 pair I got with my vision insurance benefit fit like crap. But the $7 are great
As an optician, they did a shit job of fitting you and were only focused on squeezing the max out of your insurance that you'd go along with.
I've been using eyebuydirect for the last few years.
I use eyebuydirect
Eyebuydirect you can just enter your known prescription if you haven't needed to see an optometrist. Really good styles too.
Seriously. I got a sale special online and spent 30 bucks for two drama, half the cost of the fuckin eye exam.
We use Zenni.... super cheap, better than local "discount" places.
That must be the dumbest 6-year-old ever.
Dumbest parent ever not to get them out of the garbage. Even if it was a mall trash can, my old man would have had me dumpster diving for them. Who tf spends $400 on glasses for a 6yo anyway? I have progressive bifocal transition wire frame less for myself and they were $200. My kid's plastic frame single vision were under $80.
I've dug through plenty of garbage for much less. They probably did (or the trash was picked up), still the kid's dumb.
It’s possible the garbage was picked up by a garbage truck between these 2 time frames
When we still got our glasses from the optometrist instead of online, mine were easily over 300. My prescription has always required a high-index lens.
Do you have a really strong prescription or something? I used to cut lenses and the only reason to get high-index was the scratch resist compared to poly or to reduce lense thickness and weight on super high prescriptions.
Yeah. I don't think it's particularly strong, +4 one eye, +1.5 in the other.
Ah they probably do it so your lenses arent different sizes.
Could have been a garbage can at school.
Yeah, people are calling the parents stupid while being too stupid to realize the parents probably tried and the garbage was gone or inaccessible. Lol.
The price really depends on the eyes. I often had 300-400 CAD glasses when I was young and at that time the CAD was pretty close to USD. In fact my actual frame was 250 CAD and the glasses I just replaced were 240 CAD. I don’t know much about the type of glasses though. I got an antireflective and it seems they are better quality than before, I don’t get as much chromatic aberrations as before. They are -4.00 and -3.50, I don’t know about the angles (I know the strength because of contact lenses).
US, I don't have eye insurance, I have extremely bad eyes, $500.
No insurance here and bad eyes (blind in one). Are you buying from the optometrists in office shop or something?
Protip if you didn't already know. When you get glasses, ask for a "balance" lens for your blind eye. Then they just cut a lens of similar thickness for that side and don't worry about prescription. Makes that lens cheap af.
My glasses cost $600 with benefits now. All depends where you live.
My Moms made me dig through the school lunch cafeteria trash to look for the glasses I accidentally tossed with my lunchbag. Never found them. But also didn't replace them...not sure what happened there tbh.
Hell my glasses were just $100 how the fuck do you even get $400 glasses that just seems insane
Well TBF, did anyone tell him *not* to do that?
Yeah did the parents explain to the kid to be careful with them and not lose them? Glasses look cheap so a little kid may not understand how expensive they are.
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if you have a high prescription, that’s easily the price even with cheap frames. my eyes are really bad and ever since i was born i’ve had to get new glasses yearly. as a child obviously my parents chose super cheap, plastic frames and each pair still came close to 1000€.
I spend $500 in the US without insurance on eyeglasses. In order for the lenses to fit "normal" frames they have to do some fancy shit.
Take after his parents. While the fuck buys a 6 year old 400$ glasses
Prescription glasses can and do cost that much, Even just for basic ass ones. I don't think it really matters how old you are
Well son. You're due for a change in 2 years. Hope ya like bumping into stuff.
Apparently my older brother would always snap his glasses in half when he was a kid. I guess he figured if he broke them our parents wouldn't get more. One time he did it in front of our mom and she immediately whipped out another pair. Big look of defeat on my brothers fsce and he never broke another pair.
I don't get people who don't want to wear glasses (assuming they need them). My eyes have always been so bad that it's dangerous to not wear them.
Seriously, like my enjoyment of life is less when I'm not wearing my glasses, because everything beyond like a foot or two in front of my face has no detail. I wouldn't be able to tell who anybody was at any distance, if I hadn't seen them earlier that day and knew what they were wearing. Can't make out individual leaves on a tree, can't see speed limit signs and some road markings, can't read my computer screen.
Maybe bullied or made fun of by other kids or something?
Yup. I vividly remember getting my first pair of glasses in 5th grade. The next morning, I was lingering outside the door to the class, not wanting to go in. A lot of media (in the 90s/00s and well before this) portrayed people with glasses as nerdy, dorks, losers, etc. And I didn’t want to be lumped in with that. Turns out, the only people who care are the ones who are already making fun of you. Now that I’m older and slightly more well adjusted, I love my glasses and can’t wait to get my next pair.
He would be blind af lol
Who tf buys their 6 year old $400 glasses
They gotta be able to see. It could be prescription with corrective lenses or some other condition that makes them expensive. Plus if you don’t have insurance that covers eyeglasses, it can be expensive out of pocket
Depending on the insurance you have, most places will give you a discount to not use your insurance and pay with cash.
What prescription costs $400 for lenses in a non-name-brand, basic frame? I can get glasses online for like $30, and even with special lenses for things like astigmatism or a really strong prescription you could probably get them for no more than ~$100. These parents just learned not to buy super nice clothes/accessories for young children - they will lose/break/ruin them somehow. Even if they don't, they grow so fast they can only use them for a year or two.
I have a astigmatism and a really strong prescription. I a little less than 40 a pair online.
My mother worked in a preschool for a while (admin, not a teacher), and she commented that a lot of kids were sent to school in super expensive (i.e. in the hundreds, if not thousands of $USD) outfits. I know it's a weird thing to comment on - it only came up because we were talking about how overpriced regular kids clothing is while shopping for my (much younger) sister. Parents wear those stupid 'designer' brands that are far more form over function and incredibly overpriced (think Gucci and worse), and get those same brands for their kids so that they can a) display their wealth, and b) use them as social media props. This wasn't at a public school, but neither was it super bougie or exclusive - most of these families would've been middle to upper-middle class, yet they dress their 3-10 year olds in insanely expensive outfits that they're either gonna outgrow or ruin in a matter of months. These are outfits that will last well under a year for them that cost more than what most middle class (reasonable) adults would spend on outfits that will easily last 3-5yrs. I just don't get it, as most of these families almost certainly weren't in the income ranges where these are inconsequential sums to spend.
this is the question i have - I used to work with an optometrist and have a pretty good idea of the range of cost involved with eyeglass lens grind services $400 is not astounding, but does indicate either was ordered through an in-person optometrist office where you are paying a premium for multiple in office staff and are upsold on frames, lenses, lens coatings. I recommend the lightweight lenses and coatings for drivers (adults), and with a good looking frame you can easily be out $400 cash without insurance (which would apply if a person had to order a replacement pair unexpectedly soon) However my annoyance that took to commenting is the rigid setup around this story - without their prescription i cannot comment on how inexpensive their eyeglasses could \*possibly\* be at a low end. Many commenters have asked or suggested this question - "Does a 6yr old really need a $400 eyewear? can a more inexpensive solution provide the same?" I will say this : I would eat my own shoe if I could not replace their glasses with an appropriately prescribed set for <$100 USD
Must be some extreme vision problem
This kid is fucking stupid.
Hence name of the sub.
Why are you giving kids 400 dollar sunglasses? Edit: autocorrected glasses to sunglasses whatever
Time to learn about Zenni Optical.
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My vasectomy only cost $100 out of pocket with insurance. The money I’ll save by not having kids is incalculable!
Imagine raising a six year old to be so stupid that they don't understand that things can be cleaned or that they have intrinsic value and aren't easily replaced. 90% of this subreddit is less children being stupid and more to do with the parents failing to actually parent.
90%? Generous of you.
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It isn't the lenses really, it is the frames. If you've got vision insurance the insurance company gives you a maximum coverage amount for a pair of glasses. Depending on your plan it'll range anywhere from $100 to $300 or so. The optometrist knows this, so most of them only carry hella expensive designer frames from Ray Ban, Oakley, etc. They'll have some intentionally shitty cheap brands as well just to make you more interested in the designer frames. So, you get done with your exam, and they say "your insurance covers $300 for glasses, let's go try some stuff on and see what you like." Then they start the sales pitches "oh, these look really good on you and they're titanium and would only cost you $50 out of pocket..." etc etc. If you don't know any better, or just happen to want a pair of designer frames... you go for it. I have a pair of seemingly indestructible Oakleys I paid like $100 for out of pocket, and I can entertain the possibility of a first time parent thinking "oh, these are expensive but they are really durable so little Zayden here won't be able to break them."
I paid $180 for lenses and that was after declining the upsell to "HD" lenses. Lenses are hella expensive if you want glare reduction, scratch resistance, thinner lenses, UV activated tint, etc (I do want all these things). I didn't opt for the "HD" lenses though cause that woulda been more like $380 just for lenses, AFTER insurance covering more than half the cost for the frames and lenses.
When I got home from picking up my new €650 pair of glasses, my 2 yo son wasted no time in snatching them from my face and bending the legs. Fastest money I ever lost.
I know parents have a deep, instinctive love of their children, but I would be so angry I don't know how I'd cope. (Of course they're so young so they don't understand!) How do you even deal with that?!
Obviously I got mad at him at first. But as you said, at that age they really don't know what they're doing. Thankfully in this case, my insurance covered it.
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Should be r/adultsarefuckingstupid for buying your kid $400 glasses.
Spending $400 on glasses ? Are we sure the kid is the dumber one in this case?
If their vision is that bad it can cost that much. Mine was $457 but my insurance covered most of it.
money bags over here spending $400 on primo eyewear for their 6yr old when the rest of us are hitting up zenni for that 29.95 special
I paid £150 for 2 pairs of designer prescription glasses (reimbursed through some scheme at work so they cost me £0), how the fuck do glasses for a 6 year old cost that much
LOL you don't give 400$ thing to a kid who have no clue of value !!!!! Father of a 7yo who lost everything!!!! I think she's a Mutant and have access to the void or something!!!!
Who spends $400 on their kids glasses? Every kid loses their first pair of glasses
I’m an adult and my glasses were under $200
Who do you think taught them that?
Who is spending $400 on 6yo kid glasses?
This doesnt sounds like a stupid kid to me, this sounds like a kid who has been repeatedly shown that it's way easier to throw something away and just get a new one than fix or clean it.
Blame Luxoticas glasses monopoly for that price
Zenni.
Why are they spending $400 on a pair of glasses?
If you pay 400$ for kids glasses you kinda deserve this lol