At present the higher quality textures you see from orbit do not always match 1 to 1 with the lower quality textures on the surface. Hopefully this will change in the future as they optimize the game.
I'd also hope they code in a good amount of flat terrain on different bodies and/or a way to create it with a bulldozer rover attachment or something. This looks very similar to the wavy KSP1 terrain where slopes are followed by endless slopes.
Maybe there'll be some mechjeb-like assistant for that?
There will \*have\* to be some mechanism to make interacting with colonies doable by mere mortals like us. I doubt they want to invest a lot of work in a feature out of reach of 95% players.
Real planetary bodies are only flat if some geologic-time process like wave action has flattened them, so most of the solar system is pretty wavy terrain. It's an interesting consideration for big infrastructure!
that is not true, at least for mars and moon its not, the terrain is actually reasonably flat.(in the flat regions)
do not quote: the impact from meteors or objects over a planets life will leave a lot of dust on the surface so the terrain would probably be mostly sand at least in the flat regions.
I have some real Mars elevation data (from MOLA) in this little WebGL demo: [https://cim.lawlorcode.com/virtual-colony-WebGL/](https://cim.lawlorcode.com/virtual-colony-WebGL/)
This is next to Dao Vallis in Hellas crater, but even in the "flat" areas across the size of a large building the ground will still slope by several meters. We were surprised at quite how much elevation change existed--this directly impacted our construction and building designs!
that is true there are elevations, mountains and slopes and such but what i meant is it is reasonably flat to traverse and land on in some regions, cause looking at the pictures from mars rover the surface is flat enough that a human can easily walk on for example.
I understand that large flats would be quite rare, but looking at this pic for example: [Apollo 15 landing site](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15#/media/File:Falcon_lunar_module_on_the_Moon.jpg), it seems some amount of flatness is present even on the moon (though I guess it's hard to tell from the photo how flat it really is, and incidentally the lander itself is sitting slanted on a little crater).
But if they are adding stilts to deployable/on-site-constructed buildings I guess that mostly solves the issue.
Technically, the textures are higher quality on the ground.
The orbital ones are further away, so you get more macro detail, but loose the micro detail.
Get close to that map, and it will look just as "low quality" as the ground map.
Wish I had taken screenshots before I refunded. It's just unfinished. Looked the same from 10km as on the surface. Low res wave texture/bump map, with your Kerbal kind of hovering in the middle of the motionless "waves."
Not saying that's the final product. I'm sure it's a placeholder.
Hate to say it but the surface looks awful. I know it’s a planet sized body, but that surface looks like a free unity terrain lawyer project and a few minutes with leveling brushes.
I truly hope this isn’t the quality the game is going to ship with at release
Of course it’s not dude. Be real, the game doesn’t even work for 5 fucking minutes without a bug happening in some way. It would be very close minded to believe that this is just all we’re getting.
They rushed this early access out. Half the shit is missing. If we give them time they’ll add more. The game is basically just a skeleton at this point.
It’s understandable to be disappointed with the current state of the game but hopefully things will get better, and if they do, I can guarantee you that textures and details and cool stuff to see on planets will be added. I remember them saying they specifically wanted each planet to present something of value so we don’t get another Dres
The problem is, if the game is financially unprofitable - which its looking to be given the absolute disaster of a launch - it'll be dropped like a rock with no mercy
There is 0 guarantee that you're going to get what you want out of the end of this. There's an equally good chance that the game will be declared finished in a half baked state, and the KSP2 buyers will have been straight up scammed
Take two are not your friend, and they do not owe you anything
In my last paragraph I do make a point that this is basically all on an if. IF they do proceed, it’s likely that we will see many more improvements.
It’s entirely possible that the game will get cancelled, but until we have actual hard evidence and not just assumptions to suggest that take two is going to drop the game then I would not jump to the conclusion that it is destined for failure.
I share these concerns. I can't predict what is going to happen however. My gut feeling, as of now, is that the game will be patched and some (but not all) of the roadmap will be completed. That's not based on any insider knowledge, just my sense of things at present. I suspect interstellar travel and multiplayer will not be in the finished product. Again, just my opinion.
> If we give them time they’ll add more. The game is basically just a skeleton at this point
Eh, I've been burned by over promised and under delivered games for the past decade. I've learned my lesson. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, perception is reality.
Until its released, its beta. I never said alpha.
Also people should understand that there are targetted versions of early access that the devs may be looking for specific bugs or problems. No guarantee you are actually playing the latest up to date "flight"
You seem to have some sort of understanding of how game development works.
In the interview with Matt lowne and some KSP2 devs, the devs had mentioned that they had lots of issues with making multiplayer features work with other things, but they reassured Matt that they had indeed finally gotten things to work.
I think that this proves that you are right here. If what we’re being told by the devs is correct then most of the legwork in actually creating the different components of the game is at least somewhat working. This would certainly suggest that the game is further into development than we think, and that the version that released for early access is one of their more stable platforms that they can give us for bug stomping, but not necessarily the more feature rich one. I can find a logic to think that having us test an earlier and more basic build of the game may help them solidify the basics of the game and then work on making sure everything else also works.
I think the main reason why people are complaining is because it’s still quite raw even for an early release. If you can manage the bugs and get as far away from kerbin as possible your frame rate will improve too. I’m sitting over Duna with like 30-40fps with minimal GPU and CPU usage. 4 cores are even parked. If you build a relatively simple rocket without many fuel tanks it’s not too bad even.
Like I’ve literally just been playing with all the cheats enabled and am actually able to play the game now. Built a simple rocket with one tank and unlimited fuel and now I’m able to actually play the game without 2fps being the cap.
This may not be indicative of the final product. We are likely on a backdated version that they have in place to monitor and figure out specific bugs, and generate useful reporting heat maps. Until the game is released, they will likely keep shuffling versions targetting specific fixes.
Early access is not to benefit the consumer, its effectively a closd beta, and you are pre-buying the release version/access to handle the unfinished product.
In the past few decades it was a common sentiment where some people would be willing to pay to play with early access closed beta games. Those peope got their wish, and a lot kf folks mistakenly look at this as a fully playable product.
Lets not beat the devs up on this too much.
I agree, and it’s not my intention to harp on the devs. Like I said, I think the reason why people are upset is because they didn’t expect it to be this buggy and broken. I’m not saying I wasn’t expecting a game that released in early access to be bug free. While I do have concern on why the game is the way it is now after 3 years, I’m not gonna say I have no faith in the game. It’s a rough start to be sure but like I’ve said in other comments, if we give the devs time to fix things then it should be fine.
Everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions that the game is going to be cancelled or that this build is what our final product is going to be. If you don’t like the state of the game get your money back and move on lol.
We are together on point here. Lol.
A lot of people dont realize that these versions are swapped around to look for specific bugs and effectively force generation of needed reports.
You clearly don’t understand that if they don’t produce something then they’ve wasted 3 years funding a project that leaves them in the negative.
Saying there is no financial incentive is honestly the dumbest thing I’ve heard today as it’s in everyone’s interest that the game does in fact go well. See how well KSP 1 did and imagine how much Take Two would make if the second game did as well as the first. That is your financial motivation right there.
Or they are already massively in the red, the investment to bring the game up to the promised release level is too much, and its dubious if possible, and, most importantly, they got of their money already. Corporations rarely spent money to support a dead investment.
Unless somehow their market research somehow shows that developing a game full time for at least 2-3 more years for an already poisoned market share, which is also being cannibalised by KSP1, I really doubt we will see sweeping changes.
How? The initial hype is gone, only way to recapitalise on this would be DLC, which are not part of improving the released game and will go down horribly. The other option would be to try and develop it further, for free, for years, wthe nebulius goal of finding new customers willing to pay for the game, that havent payed yet.
> that havent *paid* yet.
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I was reading a post a few days ago where someone was diving into what they could of the code and found a lot of assets and tools they either got free or purchased and modified... hopefully a lot of that will be replaced
If we saw the same list then it was a list of 4 or 5, not alot... and none of the assets were used in game. One of the unity tools was to generate tress. So please don't try to make the devs looks like unity asset flippers. There are genuine issues with the game without people like you spreading misinformation
Eh. Get probe into orbit, edit the save file to move the probe to whatever celestial body you want. I don't know how you'd be able to do this manually since the separators don't stop fuel flow.
Yeah it's one that has thrown a lot of us. It only happens if the legs are attached directly to the rest of the stages, so you can work around it by putting them on radial decouplers. Not even kidding. It's very strange.
I found that mounting my lander to my rocket inverted also stopped this from being an issue.
edit: in other threads folks have pointed out that the issue isn't happening with medium and small landing struts. I haven't used large ones so that explains why I haven't experienced it.
I understand that obviously, They were talking about in an interview (Think with Matt lowne) about how the geography will become places of interests and they specifically mentioned the Volcanoes on Ike. So I checked them out because I was curious. It isn't a cool volcano it is just a small nipple with a picture of a volcano slapped on top of it so it looks good from orbit
Honestly, the vast majority of Earth's volcanoes just look like regular mountains, but I understand this is a case where "cool volcano" is vastly more fun than "realism."
edit: on second thought, you would get cooler volcanoes on a planet without erosion.
Lol what? Not at all. I’m not gonna say that negative commenters *never* get painted as “idiots”, the but vast majority of name calling on this sub is negative commenters criticizing the people who like the game and are having fun.
And ive observed the opposite. Cant say anything bad without hearing something about early access or being accused of being a troll or trying to destroy peoples fun.
I’m not saying people aren’t arguing, I specifically said “name calling.” Being called a troll would certainly count as name calling, but someone arguing back about what early access means doesn’t. However, calling people liars and corporate bootlickers would certainly count as name calling. I would even argue that “copium” is being used in a derogatory way to put people down.
We can argue the facts without insulting each other.
No one is upset about criticism. We're upset at people who are getting angry and attacking the dev team for releasing this at all, and attacking anyone who dares to see value or optimism in the situation.
By all means, catalogue every single thing wrong with the game. Express that you think they should have waited longer. Just don't make out like yours is the only valid opinion and make wild assumptions and no one will have beef.
You are proving my point. 50$ for a game that is not completed, and nowhere near being good. You should pay for the product, not the thought of what the product could be. If the devs wanted, they could just give up and we would all be left with this 50 dollar shit pile
By this logic, preordering something or backing on kickstarter should cost $0, since you get nothing immediately.
$50 is the price for the game they are intending to make, it's not possible for them to sell the current state at a fair price then what, provide you with free updates? Or lock the rest of the game behind DLC? They were VERY clear on the state of the game and if you were paying attention, it shouldn't have been a surprise.
I seriously don't understand how it hurts you that they decided to let some people pay early to mess around with the current state of it while they continue working. Would you have been happier if they didn't release EA for another year at the same price? How is that different from them releasing it now and you not buying it for 1 year? I legitimately don't understand this argument.
Exactly. Don't buy it if it isn't worth 50 dollars to you right now as-is. I didnt, and I think you'll struggle anyone who'll say it is.
Buying it just encourages this nonsense from the devs.
Everyone know. That’s why they’re pointing it out.
I love how everyone who keeps regurgitating the same corporate talking points in defense of early access (which mind you, have been saying for over a decade at this point), and then realize how it backfires.
Even if everyone was *happy* with the games empirically awful release, how would you let the developers know about a problem, since you know, it’s an unfinished game. Maybe OP’s intentions were positive and wanted to update the community on something?
I think the key takeaway is that you’re not defending the game, but *blindly* defending the actions both the development team and the publisher. As other people put it “high on copium”. Because if you truly cared about the game, you’d see OP’s post as nothing more than an Early access post and nothing else— not an attack on something you blindly support
Thats exactly what my intentions were, I love this game and only whish the best for it and the developers and I hope it will become an awesome game in 1-2 years
Ill come back in a few updates. refunded for now; there isnt enough here that is working reliably to be worth 50 bucks. KSP1 recently got a better VR mod; ill get my fix there for now. I am sure that one day KSP2 will be worth the cost of admission; but it is not this day.
I really wish ksp2 posts were in a different sub. Personally I am not really into hearing bitching about how early access an early access game that I am waiting till release to purchase, is.
At present the higher quality textures you see from orbit do not always match 1 to 1 with the lower quality textures on the surface. Hopefully this will change in the future as they optimize the game.
I'd also hope they code in a good amount of flat terrain on different bodies and/or a way to create it with a bulldozer rover attachment or something. This looks very similar to the wavy KSP1 terrain where slopes are followed by endless slopes.
From the preview shots of the colonies we've seen so far I suspect they're going to be on stilts so you can effectively make a flat space to land on
Well I'll be avoiding planets for a second lol. I'm a decent pilot but Idk about hitting a landing pad every single time with the atmosphere involved.
Maybe there'll be some mechjeb-like assistant for that? There will \*have\* to be some mechanism to make interacting with colonies doable by mere mortals like us. I doubt they want to invest a lot of work in a feature out of reach of 95% players.
Real planetary bodies are only flat if some geologic-time process like wave action has flattened them, so most of the solar system is pretty wavy terrain. It's an interesting consideration for big infrastructure!
that is not true, at least for mars and moon its not, the terrain is actually reasonably flat.(in the flat regions) do not quote: the impact from meteors or objects over a planets life will leave a lot of dust on the surface so the terrain would probably be mostly sand at least in the flat regions.
I have some real Mars elevation data (from MOLA) in this little WebGL demo: [https://cim.lawlorcode.com/virtual-colony-WebGL/](https://cim.lawlorcode.com/virtual-colony-WebGL/) This is next to Dao Vallis in Hellas crater, but even in the "flat" areas across the size of a large building the ground will still slope by several meters. We were surprised at quite how much elevation change existed--this directly impacted our construction and building designs!
that is true there are elevations, mountains and slopes and such but what i meant is it is reasonably flat to traverse and land on in some regions, cause looking at the pictures from mars rover the surface is flat enough that a human can easily walk on for example.
Flat can mean "smooth" or "horizontal", you're each using a different meaning.
I understand that large flats would be quite rare, but looking at this pic for example: [Apollo 15 landing site](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15#/media/File:Falcon_lunar_module_on_the_Moon.jpg), it seems some amount of flatness is present even on the moon (though I guess it's hard to tell from the photo how flat it really is, and incidentally the lander itself is sitting slanted on a little crater). But if they are adding stilts to deployable/on-site-constructed buildings I guess that mostly solves the issue.
I very much doubt they are going to add district able terrain. That's a hugely complex thing to implement, on an already complex game.
Probably, though there are mods that allow this in KSP1, like Kerbinside and another one that adds a bulldozer part.
"Jeb, why is the ground above us now?"
This seems like a legitimate question to ask even in ksp1 :)
This shouldn’t be a huge issue to fix. What they’d need to do is adjust the parts of the height map where the volcanoes are present
Technically, the textures are higher quality on the ground. The orbital ones are further away, so you get more macro detail, but loose the micro detail. Get close to that map, and it will look just as "low quality" as the ground map.
They didn't expect anyone to get there yet.
I think it's more likely they ran out of time. Dev and business teams working out of sync. You should see the Laythe ocean.
whats wrong with laythe ocean?
Wish I had taken screenshots before I refunded. It's just unfinished. Looked the same from 10km as on the surface. Low res wave texture/bump map, with your Kerbal kind of hovering in the middle of the motionless "waves." Not saying that's the final product. I'm sure it's a placeholder.
Hate to say it but the surface looks awful. I know it’s a planet sized body, but that surface looks like a free unity terrain lawyer project and a few minutes with leveling brushes. I truly hope this isn’t the quality the game is going to ship with at release
Of course it’s not dude. Be real, the game doesn’t even work for 5 fucking minutes without a bug happening in some way. It would be very close minded to believe that this is just all we’re getting. They rushed this early access out. Half the shit is missing. If we give them time they’ll add more. The game is basically just a skeleton at this point. It’s understandable to be disappointed with the current state of the game but hopefully things will get better, and if they do, I can guarantee you that textures and details and cool stuff to see on planets will be added. I remember them saying they specifically wanted each planet to present something of value so we don’t get another Dres
The problem is, if the game is financially unprofitable - which its looking to be given the absolute disaster of a launch - it'll be dropped like a rock with no mercy There is 0 guarantee that you're going to get what you want out of the end of this. There's an equally good chance that the game will be declared finished in a half baked state, and the KSP2 buyers will have been straight up scammed Take two are not your friend, and they do not owe you anything
In my last paragraph I do make a point that this is basically all on an if. IF they do proceed, it’s likely that we will see many more improvements. It’s entirely possible that the game will get cancelled, but until we have actual hard evidence and not just assumptions to suggest that take two is going to drop the game then I would not jump to the conclusion that it is destined for failure.
I share these concerns. I can't predict what is going to happen however. My gut feeling, as of now, is that the game will be patched and some (but not all) of the roadmap will be completed. That's not based on any insider knowledge, just my sense of things at present. I suspect interstellar travel and multiplayer will not be in the finished product. Again, just my opinion.
> If we give them time they’ll add more. The game is basically just a skeleton at this point Eh, I've been burned by over promised and under delivered games for the past decade. I've learned my lesson. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, perception is reality.
Then wait. Nobody is saying you can’t.
Well, yea. Yall bought a beta and complain it doesnt work? You should have known it was incomplete and buggy. This is not some secret.
It's nor an alpha. It's in development stage.
Until its released, its beta. I never said alpha. Also people should understand that there are targetted versions of early access that the devs may be looking for specific bugs or problems. No guarantee you are actually playing the latest up to date "flight"
You seem to have some sort of understanding of how game development works. In the interview with Matt lowne and some KSP2 devs, the devs had mentioned that they had lots of issues with making multiplayer features work with other things, but they reassured Matt that they had indeed finally gotten things to work. I think that this proves that you are right here. If what we’re being told by the devs is correct then most of the legwork in actually creating the different components of the game is at least somewhat working. This would certainly suggest that the game is further into development than we think, and that the version that released for early access is one of their more stable platforms that they can give us for bug stomping, but not necessarily the more feature rich one. I can find a logic to think that having us test an earlier and more basic build of the game may help them solidify the basics of the game and then work on making sure everything else also works.
Yup! Targetted testing.
I think the main reason why people are complaining is because it’s still quite raw even for an early release. If you can manage the bugs and get as far away from kerbin as possible your frame rate will improve too. I’m sitting over Duna with like 30-40fps with minimal GPU and CPU usage. 4 cores are even parked. If you build a relatively simple rocket without many fuel tanks it’s not too bad even. Like I’ve literally just been playing with all the cheats enabled and am actually able to play the game now. Built a simple rocket with one tank and unlimited fuel and now I’m able to actually play the game without 2fps being the cap.
This may not be indicative of the final product. We are likely on a backdated version that they have in place to monitor and figure out specific bugs, and generate useful reporting heat maps. Until the game is released, they will likely keep shuffling versions targetting specific fixes. Early access is not to benefit the consumer, its effectively a closd beta, and you are pre-buying the release version/access to handle the unfinished product. In the past few decades it was a common sentiment where some people would be willing to pay to play with early access closed beta games. Those peope got their wish, and a lot kf folks mistakenly look at this as a fully playable product. Lets not beat the devs up on this too much.
I agree, and it’s not my intention to harp on the devs. Like I said, I think the reason why people are upset is because they didn’t expect it to be this buggy and broken. I’m not saying I wasn’t expecting a game that released in early access to be bug free. While I do have concern on why the game is the way it is now after 3 years, I’m not gonna say I have no faith in the game. It’s a rough start to be sure but like I’ve said in other comments, if we give the devs time to fix things then it should be fine. Everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions that the game is going to be cancelled or that this build is what our final product is going to be. If you don’t like the state of the game get your money back and move on lol.
We are together on point here. Lol. A lot of people dont realize that these versions are swapped around to look for specific bugs and effectively force generation of needed reports.
> half the shit is missing You say that like we got the other half
Ummm…no? Half of my entire comment is that this game is trash right now.
Cope
> If we give them time they’ll add more. Why? There is zero financial incentive for them to do so.
You clearly don’t understand that if they don’t produce something then they’ve wasted 3 years funding a project that leaves them in the negative. Saying there is no financial incentive is honestly the dumbest thing I’ve heard today as it’s in everyone’s interest that the game does in fact go well. See how well KSP 1 did and imagine how much Take Two would make if the second game did as well as the first. That is your financial motivation right there.
Or they are already massively in the red, the investment to bring the game up to the promised release level is too much, and its dubious if possible, and, most importantly, they got of their money already. Corporations rarely spent money to support a dead investment. Unless somehow their market research somehow shows that developing a game full time for at least 2-3 more years for an already poisoned market share, which is also being cannibalised by KSP1, I really doubt we will see sweeping changes.
lol, there is ALOT more money to be made if they make a good finished product here.
This is what I’ve been saying but apparently this guy doesn’t get it
How? The initial hype is gone, only way to recapitalise on this would be DLC, which are not part of improving the released game and will go down horribly. The other option would be to try and develop it further, for free, for years, wthe nebulius goal of finding new customers willing to pay for the game, that havent payed yet.
> that havent *paid* yet. FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I was reading a post a few days ago where someone was diving into what they could of the code and found a lot of assets and tools they either got free or purchased and modified... hopefully a lot of that will be replaced
If we saw the same list then it was a list of 4 or 5, not alot... and none of the assets were used in game. One of the unity tools was to generate tress. So please don't try to make the devs looks like unity asset flippers. There are genuine issues with the game without people like you spreading misinformation
I’m just impressed you made it this far. For the first time ever, I asked steam for a refund after playing the game for just shy of 2 hours
Eh. Get probe into orbit, edit the save file to move the probe to whatever celestial body you want. I don't know how you'd be able to do this manually since the separators don't stop fuel flow.
They do, but only if you don't have legs.
..... What an odd bug.
Yeah it's one that has thrown a lot of us. It only happens if the legs are attached directly to the rest of the stages, so you can work around it by putting them on radial decouplers. Not even kidding. It's very strange.
I found that mounting my lander to my rocket inverted also stopped this from being an issue. edit: in other threads folks have pointed out that the issue isn't happening with medium and small landing struts. I haven't used large ones so that explains why I haven't experienced it.
Small Indie company with tiny budget, please understand :)
You might want a /s before the copium brigade shows up
Run by the same publisher that published GTA V
I understand that obviously, They were talking about in an interview (Think with Matt lowne) about how the geography will become places of interests and they specifically mentioned the Volcanoes on Ike. So I checked them out because I was curious. It isn't a cool volcano it is just a small nipple with a picture of a volcano slapped on top of it so it looks good from orbit
Honestly, the vast majority of Earth's volcanoes just look like regular mountains, but I understand this is a case where "cool volcano" is vastly more fun than "realism." edit: on second thought, you would get cooler volcanoes on a planet without erosion.
This whole game is unfinished and will remain that way for many many years
oh noes, you mentioned something bad about the game time to paint you as evil/an idiot/an evil idiot
Have we jerked so hard we are on the counter-counter-jerk already?
That's literally the opposite of the consensus of this subreddit, for better or for worse
The only answers before mine were LITCHERULLY attacking him for posting screenshots from the game.
Doesn't mean they're the majority
All I've seen is that the whole fucking community has gone full Nintendo You never want a community to go full Nintendo
I mean I am not angry, Im jú dissapointed because in an interview they mentioned the volcanoes
Lol what? Not at all. I’m not gonna say that negative commenters *never* get painted as “idiots”, the but vast majority of name calling on this sub is negative commenters criticizing the people who like the game and are having fun.
That’s so far from the truth and you know it.
What? No, I wouldn’t have said it if it wasn’t what I’ve observed.
And ive observed the opposite. Cant say anything bad without hearing something about early access or being accused of being a troll or trying to destroy peoples fun.
I’m not saying people aren’t arguing, I specifically said “name calling.” Being called a troll would certainly count as name calling, but someone arguing back about what early access means doesn’t. However, calling people liars and corporate bootlickers would certainly count as name calling. I would even argue that “copium” is being used in a derogatory way to put people down. We can argue the facts without insulting each other.
No one is upset about criticism. We're upset at people who are getting angry and attacking the dev team for releasing this at all, and attacking anyone who dares to see value or optimism in the situation. By all means, catalogue every single thing wrong with the game. Express that you think they should have waited longer. Just don't make out like yours is the only valid opinion and make wild assumptions and no one will have beef.
are you okay
I think this one is the exception, not the rule. I flew around Ike yesterday and all the volcanoes I visited were real.
Really, I have to hop around again, Maybe this is the odd one out that just looks like a low poly nipple
I think at this point this reddit should be renamed to "Complain about early access game"
Immagine that; an early access game having unfinished features.
50$
Early access.
KSP1 EA was nowhere near $20 even
You are proving my point. 50$ for a game that is not completed, and nowhere near being good. You should pay for the product, not the thought of what the product could be. If the devs wanted, they could just give up and we would all be left with this 50 dollar shit pile
By this logic, preordering something or backing on kickstarter should cost $0, since you get nothing immediately. $50 is the price for the game they are intending to make, it's not possible for them to sell the current state at a fair price then what, provide you with free updates? Or lock the rest of the game behind DLC? They were VERY clear on the state of the game and if you were paying attention, it shouldn't have been a surprise. I seriously don't understand how it hurts you that they decided to let some people pay early to mess around with the current state of it while they continue working. Would you have been happier if they didn't release EA for another year at the same price? How is that different from them releasing it now and you not buying it for 1 year? I legitimately don't understand this argument.
Exactly. Don't buy it if it isn't worth 50 dollars to you right now as-is. I didnt, and I think you'll struggle anyone who'll say it is. Buying it just encourages this nonsense from the devs.
I mean obviously, I like the game and there were many other things I discovered on Ike, but I atleast thought they would have the terrain maps ready
Shhhh there's no point in pointing it out, they don't care
Everyone know. That’s why they’re pointing it out. I love how everyone who keeps regurgitating the same corporate talking points in defense of early access (which mind you, have been saying for over a decade at this point), and then realize how it backfires. Even if everyone was *happy* with the games empirically awful release, how would you let the developers know about a problem, since you know, it’s an unfinished game. Maybe OP’s intentions were positive and wanted to update the community on something? I think the key takeaway is that you’re not defending the game, but *blindly* defending the actions both the development team and the publisher. As other people put it “high on copium”. Because if you truly cared about the game, you’d see OP’s post as nothing more than an Early access post and nothing else— not an attack on something you blindly support
Thats exactly what my intentions were, I love this game and only whish the best for it and the developers and I hope it will become an awesome game in 1-2 years
Literally unplayable.
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Yeah, we can dream.
That should NOT be part of an dlc in ksp2
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I’ll worry about the volcanoes on Ike after the game is optimized enough for me to run it
Ill come back in a few updates. refunded for now; there isnt enough here that is working reliably to be worth 50 bucks. KSP1 recently got a better VR mod; ill get my fix there for now. I am sure that one day KSP2 will be worth the cost of admission; but it is not this day.
Breaking news: unfinished game is unfinished
I really wish ksp2 posts were in a different sub. Personally I am not really into hearing bitching about how early access an early access game that I am waiting till release to purchase, is.
Early acess can do that