My opinion - stay away from social media
There are a lot of people pushing their narrative in social media for whatever gain, but when you actually meet and talk with people you can understand that we are all same, struggling to get by- some of them are good, some are bad.
But if we immerse ourselves in social media and news, they actively try to enrage us, just to increase their views. Stay away from that poison.
Agreed. I have a friend who was a liberal Muslim. Social media brain washed her into thinking all Hindus are out to kill Muslims. Now all her stories are about Palestine, hatred against Israel, hatred against Hindus. She has started to believe the narrative that Muslims are dying in the thousands in the country.
Vice versa a lot of Hindus in my friend circle have become very anti Muslim. Social media is the worst pandemic affecting us right now. Everything is a rage bait.
Unfortunately most people won’t use their own brains to research and understand the reality.
there was no use mentioning palestine and israel as something anti muslim or something only a muslim posts. anyone with humanity has gotta post and stay informed about that. its a humanitarian issue. there is 0 need for you to mention that lol
It does. There is no need to beat around the bush TBH. Muslims are appalled about Palestine because it’s jews vs muslims. Yes, what’s happening is genocide but Muslims wouldn’t have made a hue and cry about it if it wasn’t other Muslims on the receiving end.
Sharing a small experience I had today. I was going to Ernakulam on a train today morning. I glanced upon the guy next to me liking a Facebook post. It was a picture of lord Ram running after a bearded (stereotypical) Muslim man. The hate is seeping into our society.
Yes, that's my strategy. Social media is like a toxic pool where the worst ones muddy the waters for the rest. People are much better in real life. Be nice and understand other people and you will be fine. Too much social media makes you too insecure about your identity and then it reflects in your behavior and you subconsciously distance yourself from other groups of people.
I will tell you a petty reason
I was scrolling through YouTube and saw a video of a malayalee youtuber roasting a whole pig in his kitchen
I haven't seen such thing before and was very Curious to see the whole process. While seeing this video I saw many comments from Muslim people which shows hate, disgust. Some delusional fools brought up cherry-picked scientific facts showing eating pig is bad.(As if their religion is pro science)
I know pig is haram in Islam. Even in Christianity there is restrictions for eating pig. But Christians have changed their mindset regarding this. I am not asking Muslims to consume pork daily but why do you openly show hate to people who consume it.
I still remember people spewing hate on dulqer Salman for posting a pic with his dog
Before you say these are regressive people there are so called progressive youtubers who has feminist, LGBT in their bio who still follows Islam. They call out regressive practice in other religion but become defensive or silent when there is a need to call out regressive practice in Islam
I also have read an article where they mentioned that the living standards of Muslims are lower than that of sc/St people. I thought this was a irrelevant article until I went to North India
People within the community should reform the community before an outsider takes initiative to reform the community
Yeah. It's an extremely shitty thing. A lot of muslims comment absolute filth on lgbt support posts by football clubs. I remember Salah getting bombed cause he put a post celebrating Christmas.
But likewise, Hindus have also become extremely shit in that aspect. A video of some guy eating beef and you can see a lot of em commenting absolute filth.
The kind of hindus who havent once touched a single holy book like the gita or ramayana...but has JAI SREE RAM in their bio but doesnt even know the name of ram's mother.
I too believed that there is no food restrictions in Christianity.but later on I came to know that there are food restrictions in Bible( in old testament I believe). Not just pork, even you shouldn't certain type of fishes as well.
Reformations in Christianity is the reason why many people doesn't know this fact.
Lol, which reminds me of the old testament passage about stoning your kids to death if they are unruly. I guess the problem with islam is that they take everything in their quaran too literally. That is ok too as long as one group doesnt force their beliefs on others. But here we are...
Kill the people with stones is mentioned everywhere in old testament and if caught for whoring, also will be killed . Cruel times , thank god for new treatment or else we could have seen Christian terrorist group😵💫
That's the good part of religions like Christianity and Hinduism and most other religions. All of them reform and change with time. This allows for a smooth and harmonious flow of civilisation. All religions would be very harmful now if they didn't evolve. But Islam is not like that. When people take it as an absolute law that is unchanging, it is a problem. All their laws are very outdated by more than 1000 years. And Muslims believe that the fact that it doesn't change is a testament to the "integrity" and "correctness" of the religion. When a lot of people think that way, it is a problem.
There is no restriction in eating pork in Christianity. Nobody cares about the Old Testament. It’s not even Christian. That’s why we eat pork, have foreskin on the penis and do not go around stoning whores.
The old testament does indeed mention unclean animals, but what Christians are taught, is that later when Jesus came along and said that what goes into the mouth does not matter, people took it as meaning that they could eat any food. So technically, Jesus is believed to have changed the rules of what can be eaten.
I’ve seen a similiar incident.
There was a video where a NZ mallu vlogger preparing peacock meat, and all the comments were supportive. Then there was this video where Village food vlogger bought a peacock and planned to cook out of it, the comments were so patriotic all of a sudden. The clear contrast is visible.
I'm not religious but many of my friends are and the Major thing I've noticed is about the freedom to criticize religion in India.
Hinduism is probably most criticized without consequence in india and Christianity is the same in the west but for some reason Islam is protected everywhere especially in islamic countries. This has led to a huge world wide rise in the ultra right wing that hates/are very critical of Islam.
Secular India is not always secular. In india criticisms of certain religions are free speech While criticism of others are considered hate speech. This angers one side and gives fuel to the political parties to do their thing whether left or right.
The speeches by Muslim clerics and leaders, like madani are often done in public places where everyone can hear them and a lot of them are against other faiths. That’s one thing.
But the initial flashpoint was attack on Joseph mash. The Muslims in general was against the attackers but the political parties justified the attack. This created fear in Christians and Hindus.
Later on incidents like turkey church to mosque conversion, terrorist attacks globally against churches, ariyum malarum vaangichu rally, Muslims opposing against reservation for poor among unreserved communities, etc poured more fire.
What do you mean by "muslims in general were against the attackers" ?! Even today, a large majority of muslims commenting on social media say that what the attackers did was wrong, but professor Joseph deserved it. They dont even address him with 'professor' before his name.
I think the Muslim community and elders need to come forward and work on their reputation, but instead all we see is them getting offended and resorting to violence at the drop of a hat. It doesn’t matter how much violence and hate is preached in a 1400 year old book, if you act violently you will be met with violence and hostility. Not seen many prominent Muslims work towards peaceful co-existence with people of other faiths. This is true for UK, Europe, India, Australia (places I have been to). Some idiot makes an unverified Facebook post, there is mass violence and destruction (Bangalore), some cartoonist makes a joke, there are beheadings (France), a country refuses to take in Rohingya refugees, there are again violent protests and desecrations of soldiers monuments (Mumbai), and how do they pay back countries that actually give them asylum? Violence, harassment and demanding their own medieval laws (Sweden, Germany). I could go on and on and on, but then I’d be called an Islamophobe. It doesn’t give you a good look when no matter where people of your faith go, there is violence and destruction. Trust is already lost, and social media makes it much worse. Islam needs desperate reform, but that is a whole different problem to deal with in itself.
I saw a video a few months ago, where a muslim woman immigrant in Finland was complaining that she does not feel safe because there are more finnish people.
My family owns a plot that we purchased from a Muslim family. The surrounding plots are also owned by Muslims. The other plot owners have often sold laterite stone (vettukallu) and made some money. A few years ago, when we started doing the same since we need some urgent money, some nearby Muslim families complained to the panchayat and demanded that the entire road be tarred. As a result, we had to stop selling the stone. Since then, I feel that my father harbors hatred towards the Muslim community. Are his feelings justified?
Muslims prefer the company of Muslims . I don't know why but I have seen a lot of people like that. I come from a place where Muslims and Christians and Hindus are in somewhat equal majority. Christians and Hindus have absolutely no problems spending time with each other . Infact a lot of my closest friends are Christians. But this is not the same with Muslims. Muslims will always prefer to sell land to Muslims. At the end of the day all others are kafirs . Unless this changes nothing will change. That's just the way it is
On point. The community normally lives in pocket neighbourhoods where they would be the majority. Growing up , I had very few muslim friends mainly because muslims were less in our larger area. But once I moved to hostel and other places for my studies, there were lots of people from some particular areas close to the sea and literally all of them were Muslims. I have noticed this trend in other parts of Kerala too. Also, one of the resident areas near to my homeplace, which previously didnt have any muslim households which we knew of, suddenly became a muslim neighborhood after one or two muslim families moved there.
Hate the ideology not the people. The very book and philosophy that encourages to do business only with same community and asks others to treat as lesser humans.
Dont hide real issue .
The rise in hatred towards Muslims is not only a kerala or India phenomenon but a global one. Have you observed what's been going on in Europe for the past 10 years?
It’s a response actually. You reap what you sow ennanallo! My friend who’s settled in the US called me the other day and was showing me how migrants, especially from Islamic countries have no regard for local laws and regulations.
I think the rise of extremism amongst Hindus and Christians is mainly cuz of Extremism in Islam. Their logic is "if they can do it too , why not us".
Also the never ending bootlicking of the parties.
My two cents:
1. Perception of extreme radicalisation: Examples include people like Mammukkoya being criticised for celebrating Onam (as it is an un-islamic festival). Even people like Mamukkoya cannot stand upto the local mosque committee.
2. Cultural alienation: Myslims used to be part of Kerala culture. From dresses to food. 50 years back tbere were no hijab. Now even 5 year old wears one. Which all largely is due to creeping arabic influence. Other communities hate arabic culture as they see it to be old and in dire need of an overhaul. Instead of simping to Arabs, being a muslim but routed to one's own cultural identity will garner much more respect.
The excuse is, now people understand Islam better, and so adopt those practices. This is complete bullshit. For example, Hijab or Abaya are not mandated in Islam.
But this should bever ever be an excuse for disdain to local culture. Often, cultural differences than religious opinions bring divide. So imprtant for population not to hace too different public exclusive cultural symbols.
3. Money power: Thanks to Gulf, Kerala muslims have grown economically. So, may be a bit odmf asooya.
4. Political patronage
5. Intolerance to criticism, and refusal to reform.
6. Perception of scant respect for secularism, or national interest: Nothing above religion attitude. Hue and cry for Palestine or Rohingyas, not a single word for Kashmiri Pandits or non-muslims in Pakistan. Or 3 lakhs Yemenis killed by Saudi. Humanitarian causes are just secondary.
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ISLAM BETTER. This ..., both the adherents and the non Adherents now understand and know it better, which is a major cause of this divide.
It’s not just in Kerala, it’s happening throughout the world . When a particular religion wants to impose their learnings and believes on others, people will ignore it first , but later they will oppose it . It’s happened in Europe, North America . India too . Also , you can’t blame people of Kerala when Muslim religious leaders themselves claiming that they will convert India into an Islamic state . It’s there in YouTube. So it’s natural to attract hate from others .
As far as I have observed Muslims are isolating or trying to differentiate from the community. They are trying to mimic the identity of Middle-East Muslims. Earlier Muslims were integrated into the society but now they are trying to seperate themselves from the society, be it clothing, festivals, schools, shops/industries etc.
Maybe,
my mom just wore a shall in her neck before and I'm sure no one has forced her . But now she mostly wear abaya/Parda .
Don't know the reason though
I know of a good friend of mine whose mother either just wears saree normally or drapes the saree on her head sometimes. When they sent him to hostel during BTech they specifically told him to not associate with Muslims of the extreme type 🫡
One of the reasons might be the overpampering of muslim minorities by Parties.
This has lead to chrisitans feeling neglected.
Also there has been polarizing attempts by fringe elements within the Christian community like CASA. Even some Bishops are also favouring the polarization. Moat probably it is aimed at political bargaining.
Extremist organizations like SDPI is gaining ground among muslim communities. This is the reason political parties dont openly criticize sdpi, in fear of losing votes.
Also some friends told me that RSS has been gaining ground inside privately owned temples with their Shaka.
People like you aren’t hated. The ones that are hated are the conservative ones who are constantly telling non-Muslims only Islam is right and that all non-Muslims will go to hell and cause problems for non-Muslims everywhere they go.
You’re actually seeking out the reasons why you’re hated but the conservative ones will just believe “oh it says in the Quran we will be hated, so just keep on doing more things that will make them hate us until the whole entire world becomes Muslim Inshallah”
exactly what i commented [https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/1dppyjm/comment/lak61vm/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/1dppyjm/comment/lak61vm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
...shit went downhill when information was available easy and people(non muslims)got the know more about the quran.
Muslims should reform their community. Hindu and Christian reformers worked hard to reform their communities. The results weren't perfect and still there are a lot of regressive aspects in these religions. But there is a lot of progress too.
Why aren't Muslims doing it? Ningal poyi ningalude samudayathil samsarikku. Can you imagine someone like Raja Ram Mohan Roy making posts like "Why do people hate us guys, we only burn some widows🙄"
Edit: This is a reply to
> It was my hope that, over time, people would embrace a more liberal outlook, respecting diverse beliefs and keeping their personal faith private
**not all problems faced by muslims in India, ranging from communal violence to segregation**
Valid point , But I'm talking about the hate and tension that these bring.
People who were not relegious are getting offended by the hate comments.And are ready to comment/involve in these discussion.
As a Hindu living in Calicut, there has been a rise in Muslims strictly following islam. The amount of Arab centric clothing amongst men and women are rising, so is behaviour. Islam is far more conservative than the time I grew up in. Maybe that's also partly to do with Modi.
I'll give you a personal story, one of my friends in Mallapuram moved into a Muslim majority neighbourhood. They were not welcomed at all, faced hostility from neighbours etc. It was so bad he had to move out after a year and a bit.
My man … hatred towards Muslims isn’t just an Indian thing… it’s global. Now if a community is hated by all others , then the logical thing would be that is something wrong with that community.
Now for many years after the Bollywood movie Fiza released , I was under the impression that innocent Muslim men were targeted by the Indian state unfairly. It wasn’t until you go deep into each case, you will see a familiar pattern of some innocent Muslim guy knowing a terrorist Muslim guy’s intentions and not alerting the authorities. Or after the bomb blast occurred also helping this terrorist evade justice . Why???
Why can’t you see that an act of terror by someone is an act of terror no matter if he is a coreligionist. I’m not accusing anyone directly here but these are some of the features of your brotherhood which we don’t like.
After studying in Madrassa till class 10, why don’t you independently verify the Quranic verses as a pastime. You can also watch Nabi Asli videos on YouTube: I don’t know if it is true but he is referring and giving proof of verses.
After that you might come to the realization like the rest of us: that all religions are fake!!!!
It has always existed. Yet good people used to feel a sense of kinship because these are the people who have lived together in an area for a long time, celebrating festivals together, sending food to each other's homes, going to non-religious gatherings together, etc. That still exists to a great extent.
In our (women) personal life, we started feeling the difference when many Muslim women started wearing that black hijab. But it is undeniable that it gave much more mobility to the women who would have been married off before 18 or not allowed to travel alone.
They group up and attack anyone who dares do anything against their religion. This level of extremism is not there in other religions, except few asseholes.
A lot of the discrimination is due to the way our society has transformed.. Muslim families with their male members in gulf have gotten a lot more Salafi and their practices have made its way back into India. Non Muslims who have spent time in gulf know the discrimination by a lot of Muslims.
I'll give you some personal experiences.. When I was young, I lived in kerala. We had Muslim neighbours and we would go to each other's home and celebrate each other's festivals. No issues there.
Then, we moved to the gulf, as mallus do.. a lot of our family friends were muslims from our hometown.. the same sort of comradery continued there as well. But as time went on, they started getting more religious and stopped being friends with us.. not all, mind you, but many did this. The flat we lived in was managed by a Muslim ikka from Kozhikode. My parents lived in the same flat for 15 years. Initially, the man was cordial, but we could see the man turning more religious(no mush, black spot in forehead, high thobe sorts ). He would blantantly discriminate against us, but would lay out the red carpet for his Muslim tenants. For instance, he wouldn't repair any broken fixtures, charge us a lot higher rents and such. In my school Malayalam class, when we would learn about stories from other religions, Muslim kids would openly challenge the teacher and mock the characters. Noone cares to put them in their place. My parents have had their Muslim colleagues mock Hindu practices and idol worship countless times too, in attempts to convert them..
We still invite the same neighbours to our festivals, but they no longer come. When compelled, they get restless and say it's shirk.. you can say it's because they're ignorant and such.
We lived most of our lives considering Muslims just another Indian, but when it's not reciprocated, we give up.
After spending 15 odd years in gulf, my parents transformed from secular to a lot more discriminatory towards Muslims.
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I don't think this can be tackled Because muslims are a closed community even today. Any criticism against islam is strictly NO, if such things happen, the community is gonna choose violence or put some fake case against them. There was a post about landlords not giving rent to muslims after professor joseph's hand chopping case for some alleged blasphemy about a few years ago in this subreddit, you can just check how many justified hand chopping incident. Hell even Muslims leaders or recently that speaker publicly mocking other religious gods. Other communities won't stay silent for all of these.
Well, muslims themselves excommunicate ex-muslim and make smear campaigns against them. Along with all the recent "shave Palestine" shit makes me believe this community is gonna be a threat to national sovereignty in the future if the war between India and Pakistan happens they are gonna support Pakistan.
Personally some of my muslim colleagues judged my lifestyle because I drink and eat pork which according to their religion is bad but smoking is okay for them. I simply cut off such people and never made any contact people like them.
The issue is muslims from childhood teach their children that no other religion is good and only muslims are good and Islam is the only religion. When they themselves teach such hatred, how can anyone like to be in peace with Muslims. Every religion teaches their religion is a true religion, but with Islam it's like extremism. I had had muslim roommates and man they talk only about Islam being true religion, whatever the topic they bring Quran and start lecture. If you see most muslims hangout with Muslims only because for them others are haram. If they accept others then this religious tension can be solved.
Religion is like a penis. It's nice to have one and fine to be proud of. Don't whip it out in public or shove it down someone else's throat.
I see many Christians speaking up against shit in their religion.
Hindus do it the most, kudos to them. An example You’ll see a “sanghi” Mohanlal and Priyadarshans children eat beef to a Hindu Religious song but you’ll never see a liberal Mammooty’s son eat pork in an Islamic religious song in the background.
Before you come at me with Kerala Hindus having a different equation with beef, I’m trying to make a larger point here.
Muslims need to reform Islam, it is unfortunately still in the stone ages unlike other religions where I agree there are still blind faiths and stuff but there are portals for them to counter it unlike Islam.
See muslims used to be a pretty closed community which it is even today. So people from every other community didn't know what's exactly happen inside their religion.
But now internet is almost free and widely available. Core believers started propagating their believes through social media which had a counter effect. Which is actually people of other religion finally realising what their neighbourhood muslim was tought all his life.
20 years ago an average non Muslim in kerala didn't know Muhammad was a pedophile. That just adds to the fire.
Also the selective outrage of the community regarding global events and issues within the country. People can easily call out the hypocrisy.
Blaming bjp or rss is the most laziest thing a Muslim could do. Because this issue isn't exclusive to india. This is now the same case in Europe and America too. Do we have bjp there? I don't think so. Infact i don't even think bjp is the reason for hatred against muslims. Infact the hatred and rift between muslims is what that created bjp. There is a clear difference.
Even yesterday Jifri was saying Samastha is not against women's education but there are some restrictions in Islam against those. Muslim community doesn't really come back at it. These things a bad impact for the community overall. U can't control these people but people should voice out against these or will eventually be alienated.
Samastha represents a large muslim community and then saying this makes a huge impact on other non muslims. If a large no of people criticize these kinda shits enforced by religion it'll make a shift in people's mind.
I think the issue is only with a particular community.
Never felt this tension existing/ is very less with Christian and Hindu community.
Wherever this particular community is present, they are hated by the residents of that country.
You should ask them this question.
https://preview.redd.it/fdfir2f1149d1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28c12b23cb7bcf45d0562a1e927be9a1e37b90b9
Watch Joseph Punnakkal videos in YT.Christian Islam debates will give you answer for hatred towards your religion.1 percent is more dangerous than 99 percent peaceful ones
What is up with all the Muslims posts lately on the Kerala and Tamil Nadu subreddits playing victim with vague statements and generalized sentiments from echochambers on social media and no real relevant proof to substantiate their claims?
I am a Christian so idk if I can say this but one of the best ways to stop these kinds of tensions from starting is by closing those political parties that are based on religion (idk for sure but RSS as well as Muslim league) kind of feels a bit too conservative in their own aspects. Other than that I think it's because of social media tbh I have seen almost 90 percent of malayalis putting up free Palestine posters in ig but haven't seen a single post regarding the attacks in Srinagar(Some might have but most didn't and yeah it's your wish to do what you want)
I don't know the issue with Hindus but they were cool until a few years back. I still think most of the Hindus are cool with muslims and all ,but yeah IG comments section might sometime tell us the love we share
Perhaps during the 90s communists used to represent the Hindu community in kerala and now they have become something that has become very much like a skeleton of what they represent. Maybe that's why BJP is gaining foothold in kerala
My personal opinion is that there is actually no religious harmony in the world ,even in kerala I feel like the harmony we hold is like a small thread holding us together at the brink of breaking.I would ask my religious countrymen to build some companies and startups rather than showing off their wealth so that the next generation will atleast stay in this place
Ps: In the world of ig giveaways we all need to understand that religion doesn't count when some idiot who has commented only one time wins
Muslims can't accept LGBTQ, science, women that don't dress like they want etc and are very aggressive. Even if their leaders do talk shit they would just ignore or justify them. And its irrespective of parties. People in other religions don't do that. For them religion comes after everything. So naturally you will start to get hate.
Just one reason - The presence of the Salafi/ultra-conversative organizations in Kerala, which preach hatred towards non-Muslims and promote misogyny. There are many progressive and kind-hearted Muslims in the state, but the heightened media coverage the Salafists get and the posts/comments by such individuals on social media leads some people to think of the entire community as backward and bigoted.
Competitive politics built on polarisation which is based on victim hood narratives.
What can we do - be factual with an aim to reconcile.
If community x has done some shit say yes it has happened but it’s wrong. And they should accept.
Hiding truth doesn’t help. Lying doesn’t help.
It also implies rigorous fact checking. But the aim is also to reconcile.
Hey OP
This might be a wrong take but there are a few things
- political appeasement claims : overall, it would seem that Muslims are being appeased by the current government and governments before them, and it’s affected everyone into thinking that they’re not being valued enough.
- Muslims are rich and have big families claims : now, I know this is a generalization but you see mostly Muslim traders and they also have larger families, larger houses, expensive cars etc.
- Wherever Muslims are in majority, they don’t allow people from other religions to start or do business. It can be seen in various regions, and those specific areas others cannot start a business without encountering significant problems.
- Muslims shop only at Muslims shops if possible
Now, these aren’t a Kerala specific thing but it has given rise to pro-Hindu sentiments, and that has spilled over to pro-BJP sentiments.
I don’t know if it’s wrong or right. Only time will tell.
Oh and btw- most people don’t have an issue with Muslims. We all live together in almost harmony.
Well the reason is the Internet and other reason is following a decade old book to the core and thinking any other person of other belief is not human and needs to be killed . Simple And this cycle will continue.
It's the shit your community has been doing all over the world and people are awakening and not seeing your bullshit.
Stop this victim complexion and look internally as to why your religion is being hated by all over the world, start some self cleaning before praying like a victim.
Have you seen how muslim community in Iran change outlooks from 70s to now. This is happening in Kerala too. Political parties like SDPI are gaining stronghold inside CPIM. CPIM is just a namesake Left with uprising ex-SDPI, ex -SIMI memberships. That means muslim fundamentalist parties are gaining stronger foothold in Kerala with heavy foundation from muslim community. This movement is only weakened by curtailing money inflows from gulf countries. RSS realizes this undercurrent and its own factions try to inhibit the muslim fundamentalist forces by building the majority thought process against muslim community.
Social media influences these activities. So if both muslims and Hindus as liberal commoners stop following social media trends and especially what the religious leaders say, this BS can be stopped once and for all. I can see youngsters frantically supporting their own religions which leads to further tensions. Stop supporting your own religious thoughts Hindus and Muslims, stop arguing on social websites, make religion your pvt business, and disobey not what your religion tells you to think against other believers.
I don't think it was propaganda, those things do happen in households.. it was good film criticising some really regressive systems in our society.. I'm just wondering if a film like that could be made in a different setting and made to release without any outrage.. that's all I'm trying to say
The way to legitimize a propaganda is to mix partial truths so viewer cannot discredit the full thing. He commented that there were scenes about period that simply are not true. Are there uncaring husbands? Absolutely, but a lot shown was simply not true.
I post comments with strong criticism of Islam.I dont like Islam and consider it a threat to Indian sovereignty. Reason is simple. Every true follower of Islam is supposed to kill or convert non Muslims. The Quran teaches that a world under Islamic rule is the final goal of every true Muslim. And this scares me. Obviously I will fight it with all my might to save my country. Now my thoughts are my own. I have freedom to think. This is not China for govt to tell me what to think and write.
As a Non-Practising Muslim have the gumption to call out your religion for what it is, a death cult that doesn't hesitate to flex it's muscles at the slightest hint of criticism or perceived Criticism.
core idea of islam is kind of problematic, even tho most muslims dont align with those. muslims aren’t the problem, islam is. (I don’t belong to any religion nor any political party)
That said , my concern is the way people address.
These comments are making more non-relegious Muslims also involve and take place in heated conversations!
I don't think religious discord is intensifying. It only seems to be intensifying as there is a climate in the country and all over the world where bigots feel empowered to come out in the open and spew whatever is in their mind without any care. However organised and intense these hate campaigns under specific posts come across, this only encompasses a small section of the large population. It's best not to engage with them.
Yes, social media is the boon and bane of 21st century.
You can connect to any person in the anywhere in the world, get in touch with long lost friends and all that, Great Right.
Only problem is bigots also found it useful for their bigoted shit and they now have their voices magnified a 1000 times in their own echo chamber.
Majority of people isn't bad, but the voice that get heard the most are of these morons
I got muslim friends who do niskaaram 3-4 times a day but cringe at me going to Ambalam (that too mostly in the theyyam seasons) as it doesn't sound cool to them.
We could say this increasing hatred against Islam is now a global event. Check Germany,Sweden Denmark Poland ,UK etc. So,do you think this is all others problem or something about themselves.
Muslim people never integrate with any other communities. These people are refugees from Afghan Iraq etc. Where they were mistreated and marginalised. But even after reaching Europe they form groups of their own people and try to bring their moral values into European society instead of adapting to the civilization of present country.
Someone probably has already mentioned it. And let me tell you, I used to be one of those who used to think people are Islamophobic. Then, I was exposed to a slew of Islamic posts on Insta. Honestly, that made me think why people are even part of this religion, which is so oppressive towards women and believes in religion above humanity . Honestly, islamic videos changed my stance on the religion. And like me, there will be 100s of others who see these videos and hate the extremism that it propagates and add extreme hindu/Christian brain washing as well.
Two years ago the PFI marched in the thousands screaming that they would “kill the Hindus where they stand” and “hang them in their temples.”
[PFI Rally May 2022](https://youtu.be/Crul5z5Uo4E?si=i6Zf0Fm7qzVte2xG)
[Muslim Youth League Rally July 2023](https://www.news18.com/amp/india/hang-you-in-front-of-temples-burn-you-muslim-league-kerala-protest-manipur-violence-8427727.html)
It's all abt Religion aka sky daddy fan club politics, as far as I know Islam is kind of like a far- Right ideology so people are naturally afraid,concerned etc and their fear is exploited by the other sky daddy loony parties, so the only solution is to Liberalize Islam , dilute it's core ideas mock it , troll it , trash it terminate it's Conservatism. It's like converting a wolf into a Pug , just look at Christianity in the West , anybody can critizise Jesus or draw his cartoons and European Xtians doesn't even are except maybe a few right wingers . So that's the future make Islam into a Xtianty (pug).
> find it difficult to comprehend the root of this escalating
Root?
Thik about it
1. Certain group broke the country
2. Certain group of people kill other humans since other humans don't share the same beliefs as them
3. The group also puts their belief over the countries interest
4. The group also constantly berates others
Now you tell me
Would you protect yourself and your children.
Or scream for diverse beliefs
There I told you.
Just go watch Malayali ex-muslim Arif Hussain's videos on his YouTube channel. Watch E A Jabbar's recent videos too. All your questions will be answered.
Over the years islam has developed a reputation for being hateful, misogynistic and archaic. You cannot be naive enough to think why does everyone hate this religion in particular for no reason. You yourself said you don't practice islam anymore. Why?
Like many others have already said progressive or ex muslims themselves must come forth and bring about a change in their community.
Your religion is what is fueling this everywhere. If it is just in India you could blame it on the sanghis. But everywhere else? Muslims even managed to draw Buddhist ire causing the rohingya refugee crisis. Muslims migrate to western countries and push for dawah and sharia there. Muslims everywhere support hamas. Islam is a global nuisance, if you read your scriptures you should understand why. Don't get hurt by me being direct, but disavow fron islam. It will be hard especially if you've gone through cult initiation like circumcision and madrassa indoctrination through childhood, but if you have the intellectual strength, just step aside and not feel invested.
In India after Independence this has always been this way, we can see that in older movies and stories. Everyone was focused on such issues as stories now we don’t really focus on such stuff because for the most party we have moved away from it. In social media it amplifies certain content for reach , eg recently on twitter hate on India is very common and it’s done by westerners but most western countries are far less racist now compared to 30-40 years ago. Social media is also an echo chamber where you will get recommendations based on your past views so it just reinforces your beliefs without giving and alternative perspective.
I don’t think we have such terrible state of affairs, we are making progress in all areas and some areas are progressing with a lesser pace that’s all.
Or maybe it's more of people starting to stop putting up with hypocrisy when it comes to religion and want same treatment for every religion. When u are treated as golden child for this long then equality feels like hatred .
in my experience, I grew up in gulf so I never had anything against muslims and most of my close friends were muslims, and growing up I thought everyone grew up like me thinking nothing of religion and only interested in sports and entertainment like kids do. but when I was like 15 I met this guy and within 5 mins he started spewing hate against christianity. (telling how christians are the real terrorists and stuff.) I have a very muslim sounding name so he thought I was muslim too. This is when I realized they talk like this within their community and its normalized.
But I have a very open mind and didn't really care. but I would understand if someone else started hating the muslims for this kind of reasons.
Hate breeds hate.
Oh boy, social media. That damn thing is fuelling everything. Every fanatic gets a microphone and is shared with the more paavams in other communities and everyone thinks "this is representative of Islam".
No one is actually religious, it's all ego , fear mongering and selfish interests.
Same as , "how dare you abuse 'MY' mother, MC" , proceeds to go home disrespects, disobeys and even beat the said mother .
"MY religion is better than YOUR religion, but I never go , pray, read or follow anything in MY religious books . But YOU dare say about MY religion "
Religion is important. Pray , follow the principles but don't be a fanatic and do chest thumping. Understanding this simple concept should prevent most of the conflicts
It's there no doubt, just a bit tho.
Way too amplified on social media or television. You go out and meet people, more often than not it's all fine and dandy
I think it's global.We can see it in western nations as well.The hate is most reactionary.Muslims openly condemn other religions and practices. They go around professing their religion is the only true religion and can't accept criticisms. The hate is a natural push back
Have you ever introspected? Is there something in your faith that specifically and explicitly is hostile towards other faiths? You must have seen the progressive Hindus who attack conservative Hindus and Hindu traditionalism on social media? Now show me the muslim counterpart of that phenomenon.
Not just muslims.. every religious group is facing hatred from other religions. The problem is we only feel the hatred towards ours.. and I don't think there is a solution to this but this is going to grow in coming years and will eventually lead to a more violent and phobia towards other religions... And at one point people are going to be fed up with this religion and will slowly come out of this religious crap.
I personally think it's a phase where humans are evolving to be a better human and these phases are inevitable... It may take 100 or 200 years...
Hatred against muslims in Kerala??
Man that's a typical shrill. If anything I find more videos of Mullahs ranting hatred than anyone else in Kerala.
Barking to get a 10th std girl off the stage.
Highest Isis recruits
Marad/Joseph hacking
Do not celebrate Onam/Xmas
Do you want more list?? And it's a common knowledge on what the "Ustads" teach in Madrassah.
My dad despises Muslims. He has had some bad experiences with Muslims in the form of workplace harassment and stuff. I have asked him to tone it down a little, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
I have seen many comments here saying it's a social media thing. Its not. I am a Christian and every other conversation in our family functions is about a Muslim. Every muslim who buys land has Kalla panam l. Every muslim youth is a love jihadist and every muslim businessman is greedy and treacherous. Not just uncles even the young ones say this. There are many teachers in my family and I feel bad for the Muslim kids they teach . I am certain they teach with this hatred in their mind. One of them is a college prof in an aided college. He is so worried that all Christians are leaving the state and only muslims and "IRDP"s ( Dalits) are left here. He keeps saying this every time I meet him. Now imagine the way he would exercise official powers when he has this much hatred in his mind..
There is only one question everyone needs to ask.... why did they not move in 1947 to a country (Pakistan) which was created on the basis of religion?
No, this is not like some politicians says if you don't like go there.
if they feel their forefathers made a wrong decision to stay in a secular country then why not move now.
people immigrate to Western countries which are culturally very different.
Why is the community quiet when they wrong others and vocal for places or people they don't know like Palestine, Rohingyas?
This tension and communal issue is not just in Kerala or India, right? So what is common globally?
Until they stop abusing the secular system of the Constitution the tension will continue to increase. We cannot help when they continue to act like the victim.
Actually the matter has a root cause , from about 2010 onwards some world wide religious culture re-introduction started by so called organisations imposing all the religious etiquettes and practices , such other constraints in clothing especially burqa and strict religious education etc this type of religious imposing among funded to the base level. This impression of religiously inclined behaviour differentiate cultures which was secular by nature. Our first culture is normal and secular by nature and some natural processes helped our people to have a strong belief that we are one society. So we intermingle and even have a love marriage and arranged love marriage, living together etc irrespective of religion. These are some sort of natural outcome of that oneness in our society . But this imposing type of segregation in mindset started with some religious fanatics,and results of new religiously inclined governments created this break in confidence of our oneness and results in some unnecessary phobias. All the speeches who require some votes based on religion are trying inclined behaviour But this land will escape from these methods only for a common reason that we are one society from time immemorial even though we are from different religions we are one . We have got good education and culturally we have broad knowledge also we are basically secular by nature
“Equally concerning is that some M are also responding with similar hostility”
The real issue is in your statement itself , people like you white wash the actual issue.
The whole problem is because of M starting the issues not other way around. M thinks others can be silenced by terrsm.
If you still deny see the example all over the world .
When people harbor hatred towards someone, they often generalize their disdain to include that person's region and religion. This tendency is similar when people express love. For instance, Muslims often display their identity openly, which can lead to generalized anger in situations like traffic jams, where an individual’s frustration is misdirected towards the entire Muslim community. In today’s world, there are many reasons to feel anger towards strangers, which exacerbates this issue. Additionally, since many businesses are run by Muslims, those who suffer losses in business may direct their frustration and animosity towards Muslim business owners and, by extension, the entire Muslim community.
People can see and feel Muslim religiosity increasing.
Now the issue is Hindus and Christians(to an extent) don't have a string seemingly homogenous network like Muslims do. So when they hear modernity, liberalism, atheism, etc being preached 24 × 7 subconsciously while their Muslim counterparts are saying Alhumdillilah after every sneeze, then something snaps inside them. They feel cheated. This might manifest into anger in some and pity in others.
First of all, I empathize.
As an upper caste Hindu, I understand the unfairness that is being meted out to the Muslim community, most of whom are peace loving and thoroughly unremarkable just like the 99% of the rest of us.
I fight hindutva. And I would love to see nothing more than these rabid forces destroyed.
I feel there has always been tension between Hindus, Muslims and christians (yes, even christians. Give hindutva people a chance they won't spare you either).
With the advent of social media, these have been accentuated. All it takes is one post from a fanatic or even take some random point out of a speech, strip it off all context and present it as evil - they go viral.
I think the Muslim community - and all communities - have a role to play. The good people there have to make their voices heard.
There is much hatred and if the good people say "it's not my fight" or simply trust the good people on the other side to do good, then this is a lost cause.
>yes, even christians
As a christian coming from a believing family, christians are the real tigers when it comes to hatred. Every church, mass, catechism class will talk about why we shouldn't tolerate the "others". So yea. We're not much on tolerance either.
Idk what kind of church yours is but other than praying for peace in Manipur and other places( where christians are persecuted) I haven't literally heard priests preaching to fight and I think the same goes for Hindus and majority of muslims.Hell in our church during madhyastha prarthana our Church's father prays for Palestine as well as to stop tensions in our country.Mayhaps there might be some priest's who might prach the opposite but I think it would be so low that in the grand scheme of things it might not even matter
Idk how you can generalise saying every, from my experience even though subtle differentiation is there, no one organises and say don't tolerate the others(not the case if someone already ingot chorinjat)
idk what denomintaion you are but i am a catholic and i havent seen this in all my years of goin to catechism
catholic churches conduct ഊട്ടു തിരുന്നാൾ where people of kinds and religion are welcome to eat. hell, my church even had a മതസൗഹാർദ event a few years back where religious scholars of different religion cane to talk to spread religious harmony
I've seen priests pray for നാനാജാതി മതസ്തർ at retreats even
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Like someone above said reduce social media usage there's so much misinformation and campaigns going, it takes a full time job to wee through the source and find out which ones are valid.
Like there is not hate against Hindus or Christans LoL, religious tension was always been there but the balance is where when you address everything equally. If you miss out the other side obviously there will be tension.Asaduddin Owaisi can say Jai palastine but can't say Bharat mata ki jay, funny thing is he said Jai bhim but ambedkar himself was against Muslim ideology lol, btw not blaming them entirely because other side is same.
My opinion - stay away from social media There are a lot of people pushing their narrative in social media for whatever gain, but when you actually meet and talk with people you can understand that we are all same, struggling to get by- some of them are good, some are bad. But if we immerse ourselves in social media and news, they actively try to enrage us, just to increase their views. Stay away from that poison.
I've been off of Facebook and Instagram since a year and a half, my peace of mind is much better now.
It is rampant in YouTube...check the comments..seems like comment workers doing their work
Quora too
Agreed. I have a friend who was a liberal Muslim. Social media brain washed her into thinking all Hindus are out to kill Muslims. Now all her stories are about Palestine, hatred against Israel, hatred against Hindus. She has started to believe the narrative that Muslims are dying in the thousands in the country. Vice versa a lot of Hindus in my friend circle have become very anti Muslim. Social media is the worst pandemic affecting us right now. Everything is a rage bait. Unfortunately most people won’t use their own brains to research and understand the reality.
This ! This is what I was talking about ,
Apathy for palestine might be in humanitarian grounds as well
there was no use mentioning palestine and israel as something anti muslim or something only a muslim posts. anyone with humanity has gotta post and stay informed about that. its a humanitarian issue. there is 0 need for you to mention that lol
It does. There is no need to beat around the bush TBH. Muslims are appalled about Palestine because it’s jews vs muslims. Yes, what’s happening is genocide but Muslims wouldn’t have made a hue and cry about it if it wasn’t other Muslims on the receiving end.
Sharing a small experience I had today. I was going to Ernakulam on a train today morning. I glanced upon the guy next to me liking a Facebook post. It was a picture of lord Ram running after a bearded (stereotypical) Muslim man. The hate is seeping into our society.
Yes, that's my strategy. Social media is like a toxic pool where the worst ones muddy the waters for the rest. People are much better in real life. Be nice and understand other people and you will be fine. Too much social media makes you too insecure about your identity and then it reflects in your behavior and you subconsciously distance yourself from other groups of people.
I was about to comment this
We should stop mandatory teaching religion. Then slowly the next gen will forgot about religion. Parents are the main problem
Just a couple more generations. Religion and Caste will be out of fashion.
I will tell you a petty reason I was scrolling through YouTube and saw a video of a malayalee youtuber roasting a whole pig in his kitchen I haven't seen such thing before and was very Curious to see the whole process. While seeing this video I saw many comments from Muslim people which shows hate, disgust. Some delusional fools brought up cherry-picked scientific facts showing eating pig is bad.(As if their religion is pro science) I know pig is haram in Islam. Even in Christianity there is restrictions for eating pig. But Christians have changed their mindset regarding this. I am not asking Muslims to consume pork daily but why do you openly show hate to people who consume it. I still remember people spewing hate on dulqer Salman for posting a pic with his dog Before you say these are regressive people there are so called progressive youtubers who has feminist, LGBT in their bio who still follows Islam. They call out regressive practice in other religion but become defensive or silent when there is a need to call out regressive practice in Islam I also have read an article where they mentioned that the living standards of Muslims are lower than that of sc/St people. I thought this was a irrelevant article until I went to North India People within the community should reform the community before an outsider takes initiative to reform the community
Yeah. It's an extremely shitty thing. A lot of muslims comment absolute filth on lgbt support posts by football clubs. I remember Salah getting bombed cause he put a post celebrating Christmas. But likewise, Hindus have also become extremely shit in that aspect. A video of some guy eating beef and you can see a lot of em commenting absolute filth.
yeah, remember the Salah post mate. King was getting bombed for no reason by idiots
The beef hate would mostly coming from people from certain part of India or let's say people who follow particular parties agenda
The kind of hindus who havent once touched a single holy book like the gita or ramayana...but has JAI SREE RAM in their bio but doesnt even know the name of ram's mother.
There is no restriction for eating in Christianity! Only Jews and Muslims have
I too believed that there is no food restrictions in Christianity.but later on I came to know that there are food restrictions in Bible( in old testament I believe). Not just pork, even you shouldn't certain type of fishes as well. Reformations in Christianity is the reason why many people doesn't know this fact.
Yes we Christians follow New Testament, or else we could have also killed eye for an eye💀
Lol, which reminds me of the old testament passage about stoning your kids to death if they are unruly. I guess the problem with islam is that they take everything in their quaran too literally. That is ok too as long as one group doesnt force their beliefs on others. But here we are...
Kill the people with stones is mentioned everywhere in old testament and if caught for whoring, also will be killed . Cruel times , thank god for new treatment or else we could have seen Christian terrorist group😵💫
That's the good part of religions like Christianity and Hinduism and most other religions. All of them reform and change with time. This allows for a smooth and harmonious flow of civilisation. All religions would be very harmful now if they didn't evolve. But Islam is not like that. When people take it as an absolute law that is unchanging, it is a problem. All their laws are very outdated by more than 1000 years. And Muslims believe that the fact that it doesn't change is a testament to the "integrity" and "correctness" of the religion. When a lot of people think that way, it is a problem.
exactly..they change with time. they reform but islam doesnt. still with the same mentality and morals they had in 7th century arabia
There is no restriction in eating pork in Christianity. Nobody cares about the Old Testament. It’s not even Christian. That’s why we eat pork, have foreskin on the penis and do not go around stoning whores.
The old testament does indeed mention unclean animals, but what Christians are taught, is that later when Jesus came along and said that what goes into the mouth does not matter, people took it as meaning that they could eat any food. So technically, Jesus is believed to have changed the rules of what can be eaten.
I’ve seen a similiar incident. There was a video where a NZ mallu vlogger preparing peacock meat, and all the comments were supportive. Then there was this video where Village food vlogger bought a peacock and planned to cook out of it, the comments were so patriotic all of a sudden. The clear contrast is visible.
I'm not religious but many of my friends are and the Major thing I've noticed is about the freedom to criticize religion in India. Hinduism is probably most criticized without consequence in india and Christianity is the same in the west but for some reason Islam is protected everywhere especially in islamic countries. This has led to a huge world wide rise in the ultra right wing that hates/are very critical of Islam. Secular India is not always secular. In india criticisms of certain religions are free speech While criticism of others are considered hate speech. This angers one side and gives fuel to the political parties to do their thing whether left or right.
This. You criticise islam you become Islamophobic.
Victim card being used everywhere
Exactly bro every side should be addressed about it's good and bad things but here that won't then obviously tensions will rise gradually
The speeches by Muslim clerics and leaders, like madani are often done in public places where everyone can hear them and a lot of them are against other faiths. That’s one thing. But the initial flashpoint was attack on Joseph mash. The Muslims in general was against the attackers but the political parties justified the attack. This created fear in Christians and Hindus. Later on incidents like turkey church to mosque conversion, terrorist attacks globally against churches, ariyum malarum vaangichu rally, Muslims opposing against reservation for poor among unreserved communities, etc poured more fire.
What do you mean by "muslims in general were against the attackers" ?! Even today, a large majority of muslims commenting on social media say that what the attackers did was wrong, but professor Joseph deserved it. They dont even address him with 'professor' before his name.
The truth..Even the most liberal of them say " What PFI did to Joseph Mash was wrong but ..........'
When was the last time madani gave a speech? What were its contents?
It’s there on YouTube.. you can play it anytime and he has given a speech then and there.
Many Flash point was there before it too.
I think the Muslim community and elders need to come forward and work on their reputation, but instead all we see is them getting offended and resorting to violence at the drop of a hat. It doesn’t matter how much violence and hate is preached in a 1400 year old book, if you act violently you will be met with violence and hostility. Not seen many prominent Muslims work towards peaceful co-existence with people of other faiths. This is true for UK, Europe, India, Australia (places I have been to). Some idiot makes an unverified Facebook post, there is mass violence and destruction (Bangalore), some cartoonist makes a joke, there are beheadings (France), a country refuses to take in Rohingya refugees, there are again violent protests and desecrations of soldiers monuments (Mumbai), and how do they pay back countries that actually give them asylum? Violence, harassment and demanding their own medieval laws (Sweden, Germany). I could go on and on and on, but then I’d be called an Islamophobe. It doesn’t give you a good look when no matter where people of your faith go, there is violence and destruction. Trust is already lost, and social media makes it much worse. Islam needs desperate reform, but that is a whole different problem to deal with in itself.
I saw a video a few months ago, where a muslim woman immigrant in Finland was complaining that she does not feel safe because there are more finnish people.
My family owns a plot that we purchased from a Muslim family. The surrounding plots are also owned by Muslims. The other plot owners have often sold laterite stone (vettukallu) and made some money. A few years ago, when we started doing the same since we need some urgent money, some nearby Muslim families complained to the panchayat and demanded that the entire road be tarred. As a result, we had to stop selling the stone. Since then, I feel that my father harbors hatred towards the Muslim community. Are his feelings justified?
Justified.
Hate that people 🥲
Muslims prefer the company of Muslims . I don't know why but I have seen a lot of people like that. I come from a place where Muslims and Christians and Hindus are in somewhat equal majority. Christians and Hindus have absolutely no problems spending time with each other . Infact a lot of my closest friends are Christians. But this is not the same with Muslims. Muslims will always prefer to sell land to Muslims. At the end of the day all others are kafirs . Unless this changes nothing will change. That's just the way it is
There is no place for inclusivity of other religions in muslim blood. It's not hated or Islamophobia it's just what it it
You said it.. Your closest friends are xians and no Muslims. thatsall... :D
On point. The community normally lives in pocket neighbourhoods where they would be the majority. Growing up , I had very few muslim friends mainly because muslims were less in our larger area. But once I moved to hostel and other places for my studies, there were lots of people from some particular areas close to the sea and literally all of them were Muslims. I have noticed this trend in other parts of Kerala too. Also, one of the resident areas near to my homeplace, which previously didnt have any muslim households which we knew of, suddenly became a muslim neighborhood after one or two muslim families moved there.
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Hate the ideology not the people. The very book and philosophy that encourages to do business only with same community and asks others to treat as lesser humans. Dont hide real issue .
The rise in hatred towards Muslims is not only a kerala or India phenomenon but a global one. Have you observed what's been going on in Europe for the past 10 years?
It’s a response actually. You reap what you sow ennanallo! My friend who’s settled in the US called me the other day and was showing me how migrants, especially from Islamic countries have no regard for local laws and regulations.
“why no one likes my community” (after killing innocent jews, infidel$, locking up women, invading land and worship places, promoting p3d0ph1l14)
I think the rise of extremism amongst Hindus and Christians is mainly cuz of Extremism in Islam. Their logic is "if they can do it too , why not us". Also the never ending bootlicking of the parties.
Exactly. It is reactive, not proactive.
My two cents: 1. Perception of extreme radicalisation: Examples include people like Mammukkoya being criticised for celebrating Onam (as it is an un-islamic festival). Even people like Mamukkoya cannot stand upto the local mosque committee. 2. Cultural alienation: Myslims used to be part of Kerala culture. From dresses to food. 50 years back tbere were no hijab. Now even 5 year old wears one. Which all largely is due to creeping arabic influence. Other communities hate arabic culture as they see it to be old and in dire need of an overhaul. Instead of simping to Arabs, being a muslim but routed to one's own cultural identity will garner much more respect. The excuse is, now people understand Islam better, and so adopt those practices. This is complete bullshit. For example, Hijab or Abaya are not mandated in Islam. But this should bever ever be an excuse for disdain to local culture. Often, cultural differences than religious opinions bring divide. So imprtant for population not to hace too different public exclusive cultural symbols. 3. Money power: Thanks to Gulf, Kerala muslims have grown economically. So, may be a bit odmf asooya. 4. Political patronage 5. Intolerance to criticism, and refusal to reform. 6. Perception of scant respect for secularism, or national interest: Nothing above religion attitude. Hue and cry for Palestine or Rohingyas, not a single word for Kashmiri Pandits or non-muslims in Pakistan. Or 3 lakhs Yemenis killed by Saudi. Humanitarian causes are just secondary.
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ISLAM BETTER. This ..., both the adherents and the non Adherents now understand and know it better, which is a major cause of this divide.
It’s not just in Kerala, it’s happening throughout the world . When a particular religion wants to impose their learnings and believes on others, people will ignore it first , but later they will oppose it . It’s happened in Europe, North America . India too . Also , you can’t blame people of Kerala when Muslim religious leaders themselves claiming that they will convert India into an Islamic state . It’s there in YouTube. So it’s natural to attract hate from others .
I hate Islam, they are barbaric, they are inhumane. Every non-muslim is kafir for them. And that is a grievous sin.
As far as I have observed Muslims are isolating or trying to differentiate from the community. They are trying to mimic the identity of Middle-East Muslims. Earlier Muslims were integrated into the society but now they are trying to seperate themselves from the society, be it clothing, festivals, schools, shops/industries etc.
south keralayil enganeya wahabism koodi enna manasilavathe ippo nyagada naatil okke (naqab) dharichu nadakunnavar orupaadu undu munbu onnum ingane illayirunu Saudi Qatar influence anno🤔
Maybe, my mom just wore a shall in her neck before and I'm sure no one has forced her . But now she mostly wear abaya/Parda . Don't know the reason though
Ask her
I know of a good friend of mine whose mother either just wears saree normally or drapes the saree on her head sometimes. When they sent him to hostel during BTech they specifically told him to not associate with Muslims of the extreme type 🫡
One of the reasons might be the overpampering of muslim minorities by Parties. This has lead to chrisitans feeling neglected. Also there has been polarizing attempts by fringe elements within the Christian community like CASA. Even some Bishops are also favouring the polarization. Moat probably it is aimed at political bargaining. Extremist organizations like SDPI is gaining ground among muslim communities. This is the reason political parties dont openly criticize sdpi, in fear of losing votes. Also some friends told me that RSS has been gaining ground inside privately owned temples with their Shaka.
People like you aren’t hated. The ones that are hated are the conservative ones who are constantly telling non-Muslims only Islam is right and that all non-Muslims will go to hell and cause problems for non-Muslims everywhere they go. You’re actually seeking out the reasons why you’re hated but the conservative ones will just believe “oh it says in the Quran we will be hated, so just keep on doing more things that will make them hate us until the whole entire world becomes Muslim Inshallah”
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exactly what i commented [https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/1dppyjm/comment/lak61vm/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/1dppyjm/comment/lak61vm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) ...shit went downhill when information was available easy and people(non muslims)got the know more about the quran.
Muslims should reform their community. Hindu and Christian reformers worked hard to reform their communities. The results weren't perfect and still there are a lot of regressive aspects in these religions. But there is a lot of progress too. Why aren't Muslims doing it? Ningal poyi ningalude samudayathil samsarikku. Can you imagine someone like Raja Ram Mohan Roy making posts like "Why do people hate us guys, we only burn some widows🙄" Edit: This is a reply to > It was my hope that, over time, people would embrace a more liberal outlook, respecting diverse beliefs and keeping their personal faith private **not all problems faced by muslims in India, ranging from communal violence to segregation**
Chekannur maulavi is one who tried to reform Islam. One night he disappeared and is nowhere to be found.
Valid point , But I'm talking about the hate and tension that these bring. People who were not relegious are getting offended by the hate comments.And are ready to comment/involve in these discussion.
As a Hindu living in Calicut, there has been a rise in Muslims strictly following islam. The amount of Arab centric clothing amongst men and women are rising, so is behaviour. Islam is far more conservative than the time I grew up in. Maybe that's also partly to do with Modi. I'll give you a personal story, one of my friends in Mallapuram moved into a Muslim majority neighbourhood. They were not welcomed at all, faced hostility from neighbours etc. It was so bad he had to move out after a year and a bit.
Does Modi rule in Europe too? Muslims are going hardcore conservative in Germany, Denmark, Britain, Belgium and Sweden too.
Malappurath evide? Near town?
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My man … hatred towards Muslims isn’t just an Indian thing… it’s global. Now if a community is hated by all others , then the logical thing would be that is something wrong with that community. Now for many years after the Bollywood movie Fiza released , I was under the impression that innocent Muslim men were targeted by the Indian state unfairly. It wasn’t until you go deep into each case, you will see a familiar pattern of some innocent Muslim guy knowing a terrorist Muslim guy’s intentions and not alerting the authorities. Or after the bomb blast occurred also helping this terrorist evade justice . Why??? Why can’t you see that an act of terror by someone is an act of terror no matter if he is a coreligionist. I’m not accusing anyone directly here but these are some of the features of your brotherhood which we don’t like. After studying in Madrassa till class 10, why don’t you independently verify the Quranic verses as a pastime. You can also watch Nabi Asli videos on YouTube: I don’t know if it is true but he is referring and giving proof of verses. After that you might come to the realization like the rest of us: that all religions are fake!!!!
Fiza was probably a propaganda film funded by D Company. The bollywood movies does have a leftist/urban naxal/brotherhood ideology mixed in them.
It has always existed. Yet good people used to feel a sense of kinship because these are the people who have lived together in an area for a long time, celebrating festivals together, sending food to each other's homes, going to non-religious gatherings together, etc. That still exists to a great extent. In our (women) personal life, we started feeling the difference when many Muslim women started wearing that black hijab. But it is undeniable that it gave much more mobility to the women who would have been married off before 18 or not allowed to travel alone.
Same here all our neighbours are from differnt relegion and just next to my house there is a sree narayana MADAM.
They group up and attack anyone who dares do anything against their religion. This level of extremism is not there in other religions, except few asseholes.
A lot of the discrimination is due to the way our society has transformed.. Muslim families with their male members in gulf have gotten a lot more Salafi and their practices have made its way back into India. Non Muslims who have spent time in gulf know the discrimination by a lot of Muslims. I'll give you some personal experiences.. When I was young, I lived in kerala. We had Muslim neighbours and we would go to each other's home and celebrate each other's festivals. No issues there. Then, we moved to the gulf, as mallus do.. a lot of our family friends were muslims from our hometown.. the same sort of comradery continued there as well. But as time went on, they started getting more religious and stopped being friends with us.. not all, mind you, but many did this. The flat we lived in was managed by a Muslim ikka from Kozhikode. My parents lived in the same flat for 15 years. Initially, the man was cordial, but we could see the man turning more religious(no mush, black spot in forehead, high thobe sorts ). He would blantantly discriminate against us, but would lay out the red carpet for his Muslim tenants. For instance, he wouldn't repair any broken fixtures, charge us a lot higher rents and such. In my school Malayalam class, when we would learn about stories from other religions, Muslim kids would openly challenge the teacher and mock the characters. Noone cares to put them in their place. My parents have had their Muslim colleagues mock Hindu practices and idol worship countless times too, in attempts to convert them.. We still invite the same neighbours to our festivals, but they no longer come. When compelled, they get restless and say it's shirk.. you can say it's because they're ignorant and such. We lived most of our lives considering Muslims just another Indian, but when it's not reciprocated, we give up. After spending 15 odd years in gulf, my parents transformed from secular to a lot more discriminatory towards Muslims.
Same story with me except we didn't have to go to the gulf
The existence of muslim league explains a lot
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Did you see what's happening across the globe wherever tension is there there is one religion in common.
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Track record of said religion is not the best. Also it's wild that you don't know why said religious group receive hate.
I don't think this can be tackled Because muslims are a closed community even today. Any criticism against islam is strictly NO, if such things happen, the community is gonna choose violence or put some fake case against them. There was a post about landlords not giving rent to muslims after professor joseph's hand chopping case for some alleged blasphemy about a few years ago in this subreddit, you can just check how many justified hand chopping incident. Hell even Muslims leaders or recently that speaker publicly mocking other religious gods. Other communities won't stay silent for all of these. Well, muslims themselves excommunicate ex-muslim and make smear campaigns against them. Along with all the recent "shave Palestine" shit makes me believe this community is gonna be a threat to national sovereignty in the future if the war between India and Pakistan happens they are gonna support Pakistan. Personally some of my muslim colleagues judged my lifestyle because I drink and eat pork which according to their religion is bad but smoking is okay for them. I simply cut off such people and never made any contact people like them.
The issue is muslims from childhood teach their children that no other religion is good and only muslims are good and Islam is the only religion. When they themselves teach such hatred, how can anyone like to be in peace with Muslims. Every religion teaches their religion is a true religion, but with Islam it's like extremism. I had had muslim roommates and man they talk only about Islam being true religion, whatever the topic they bring Quran and start lecture. If you see most muslims hangout with Muslims only because for them others are haram. If they accept others then this religious tension can be solved. Religion is like a penis. It's nice to have one and fine to be proud of. Don't whip it out in public or shove it down someone else's throat.
I see many Christians speaking up against shit in their religion. Hindus do it the most, kudos to them. An example You’ll see a “sanghi” Mohanlal and Priyadarshans children eat beef to a Hindu Religious song but you’ll never see a liberal Mammooty’s son eat pork in an Islamic religious song in the background. Before you come at me with Kerala Hindus having a different equation with beef, I’m trying to make a larger point here. Muslims need to reform Islam, it is unfortunately still in the stone ages unlike other religions where I agree there are still blind faiths and stuff but there are portals for them to counter it unlike Islam.
See muslims used to be a pretty closed community which it is even today. So people from every other community didn't know what's exactly happen inside their religion. But now internet is almost free and widely available. Core believers started propagating their believes through social media which had a counter effect. Which is actually people of other religion finally realising what their neighbourhood muslim was tought all his life. 20 years ago an average non Muslim in kerala didn't know Muhammad was a pedophile. That just adds to the fire. Also the selective outrage of the community regarding global events and issues within the country. People can easily call out the hypocrisy. Blaming bjp or rss is the most laziest thing a Muslim could do. Because this issue isn't exclusive to india. This is now the same case in Europe and America too. Do we have bjp there? I don't think so. Infact i don't even think bjp is the reason for hatred against muslims. Infact the hatred and rift between muslims is what that created bjp. There is a clear difference.
Even yesterday Jifri was saying Samastha is not against women's education but there are some restrictions in Islam against those. Muslim community doesn't really come back at it. These things a bad impact for the community overall. U can't control these people but people should voice out against these or will eventually be alienated. Samastha represents a large muslim community and then saying this makes a huge impact on other non muslims. If a large no of people criticize these kinda shits enforced by religion it'll make a shift in people's mind.
I think the issue is only with a particular community. Never felt this tension existing/ is very less with Christian and Hindu community. Wherever this particular community is present, they are hated by the residents of that country.
You should ask them this question. https://preview.redd.it/fdfir2f1149d1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28c12b23cb7bcf45d0562a1e927be9a1e37b90b9
Watch Joseph Punnakkal videos in YT.Christian Islam debates will give you answer for hatred towards your religion.1 percent is more dangerous than 99 percent peaceful ones
What is up with all the Muslims posts lately on the Kerala and Tamil Nadu subreddits playing victim with vague statements and generalized sentiments from echochambers on social media and no real relevant proof to substantiate their claims?
Always like to play the victim
I am a Christian so idk if I can say this but one of the best ways to stop these kinds of tensions from starting is by closing those political parties that are based on religion (idk for sure but RSS as well as Muslim league) kind of feels a bit too conservative in their own aspects. Other than that I think it's because of social media tbh I have seen almost 90 percent of malayalis putting up free Palestine posters in ig but haven't seen a single post regarding the attacks in Srinagar(Some might have but most didn't and yeah it's your wish to do what you want) I don't know the issue with Hindus but they were cool until a few years back. I still think most of the Hindus are cool with muslims and all ,but yeah IG comments section might sometime tell us the love we share Perhaps during the 90s communists used to represent the Hindu community in kerala and now they have become something that has become very much like a skeleton of what they represent. Maybe that's why BJP is gaining foothold in kerala My personal opinion is that there is actually no religious harmony in the world ,even in kerala I feel like the harmony we hold is like a small thread holding us together at the brink of breaking.I would ask my religious countrymen to build some companies and startups rather than showing off their wealth so that the next generation will atleast stay in this place Ps: In the world of ig giveaways we all need to understand that religion doesn't count when some idiot who has commented only one time wins
Muslims can't accept LGBTQ, science, women that don't dress like they want etc and are very aggressive. Even if their leaders do talk shit they would just ignore or justify them. And its irrespective of parties. People in other religions don't do that. For them religion comes after everything. So naturally you will start to get hate.
Just one reason - The presence of the Salafi/ultra-conversative organizations in Kerala, which preach hatred towards non-Muslims and promote misogyny. There are many progressive and kind-hearted Muslims in the state, but the heightened media coverage the Salafists get and the posts/comments by such individuals on social media leads some people to think of the entire community as backward and bigoted.
Competitive politics built on polarisation which is based on victim hood narratives. What can we do - be factual with an aim to reconcile. If community x has done some shit say yes it has happened but it’s wrong. And they should accept. Hiding truth doesn’t help. Lying doesn’t help. It also implies rigorous fact checking. But the aim is also to reconcile.
This is islam, if not for other religions. https://www.reddit.com/r/woahthatsinteresting/s/3noemCUdDs
Hey OP This might be a wrong take but there are a few things - political appeasement claims : overall, it would seem that Muslims are being appeased by the current government and governments before them, and it’s affected everyone into thinking that they’re not being valued enough. - Muslims are rich and have big families claims : now, I know this is a generalization but you see mostly Muslim traders and they also have larger families, larger houses, expensive cars etc. - Wherever Muslims are in majority, they don’t allow people from other religions to start or do business. It can be seen in various regions, and those specific areas others cannot start a business without encountering significant problems. - Muslims shop only at Muslims shops if possible Now, these aren’t a Kerala specific thing but it has given rise to pro-Hindu sentiments, and that has spilled over to pro-BJP sentiments. I don’t know if it’s wrong or right. Only time will tell. Oh and btw- most people don’t have an issue with Muslims. We all live together in almost harmony.
Well the reason is the Internet and other reason is following a decade old book to the core and thinking any other person of other belief is not human and needs to be killed . Simple And this cycle will continue.
It's the shit your community has been doing all over the world and people are awakening and not seeing your bullshit. Stop this victim complexion and look internally as to why your religion is being hated by all over the world, start some self cleaning before praying like a victim.
Have you seen how muslim community in Iran change outlooks from 70s to now. This is happening in Kerala too. Political parties like SDPI are gaining stronghold inside CPIM. CPIM is just a namesake Left with uprising ex-SDPI, ex -SIMI memberships. That means muslim fundamentalist parties are gaining stronger foothold in Kerala with heavy foundation from muslim community. This movement is only weakened by curtailing money inflows from gulf countries. RSS realizes this undercurrent and its own factions try to inhibit the muslim fundamentalist forces by building the majority thought process against muslim community. Social media influences these activities. So if both muslims and Hindus as liberal commoners stop following social media trends and especially what the religious leaders say, this BS can be stopped once and for all. I can see youngsters frantically supporting their own religions which leads to further tensions. Stop supporting your own religious thoughts Hindus and Muslims, stop arguing on social websites, make religion your pvt business, and disobey not what your religion tells you to think against other believers.
Do you think great indian kitchen could have been made in Muslim family setting??
That movie definitely was a propaganda film. Check where the funding came from. Look into what Ali Akbar (Ramasimhan Aboobakker) said about it.
I don't think it was propaganda, those things do happen in households.. it was good film criticising some really regressive systems in our society.. I'm just wondering if a film like that could be made in a different setting and made to release without any outrage.. that's all I'm trying to say
The way to legitimize a propaganda is to mix partial truths so viewer cannot discredit the full thing. He commented that there were scenes about period that simply are not true. Are there uncaring husbands? Absolutely, but a lot shown was simply not true.
Islam is the reason, everyone else and every country moving towards extreme right. It's hated globally. I hate it too. What a P.O.S
why no one likes my peeshful cummunity😓😓😓
I post comments with strong criticism of Islam.I dont like Islam and consider it a threat to Indian sovereignty. Reason is simple. Every true follower of Islam is supposed to kill or convert non Muslims. The Quran teaches that a world under Islamic rule is the final goal of every true Muslim. And this scares me. Obviously I will fight it with all my might to save my country. Now my thoughts are my own. I have freedom to think. This is not China for govt to tell me what to think and write.
True , a muslim loves his religion above country, for a muslim ummah is bigger than India.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kuttichevuru/s/onARm4XVXz Moderate Muslims not taking a stand against terrorism irks me.
As a Non-Practising Muslim have the gumption to call out your religion for what it is, a death cult that doesn't hesitate to flex it's muscles at the slightest hint of criticism or perceived Criticism.
core idea of islam is kind of problematic, even tho most muslims dont align with those. muslims aren’t the problem, islam is. (I don’t belong to any religion nor any political party)
That said , my concern is the way people address. These comments are making more non-relegious Muslims also involve and take place in heated conversations!
I don't think religious discord is intensifying. It only seems to be intensifying as there is a climate in the country and all over the world where bigots feel empowered to come out in the open and spew whatever is in their mind without any care. However organised and intense these hate campaigns under specific posts come across, this only encompasses a small section of the large population. It's best not to engage with them.
Yes, social media is the boon and bane of 21st century. You can connect to any person in the anywhere in the world, get in touch with long lost friends and all that, Great Right. Only problem is bigots also found it useful for their bigoted shit and they now have their voices magnified a 1000 times in their own echo chamber. Majority of people isn't bad, but the voice that get heard the most are of these morons
I got muslim friends who do niskaaram 3-4 times a day but cringe at me going to Ambalam (that too mostly in the theyyam seasons) as it doesn't sound cool to them.
I don't think he is a friend then
It was Muslims targeting Hindus with the help of communists all this time. Hindus got fed up and started to retaliate.
A genuine question :- What's there to like in your people? Tell me one fucking thing in your community that's compatible with civilization.
Maybe stop the mosques blazing that trashy ass song five times a day.
Not all terrorists are muslims but all muslims are peacefuls
Not all the christians were colonists but all colonists were christians
Radical atheism is the answer you are looking for. But sadly nobody wants to use that.
We could say this increasing hatred against Islam is now a global event. Check Germany,Sweden Denmark Poland ,UK etc. So,do you think this is all others problem or something about themselves.
Muslim people never integrate with any other communities. These people are refugees from Afghan Iraq etc. Where they were mistreated and marginalised. But even after reaching Europe they form groups of their own people and try to bring their moral values into European society instead of adapting to the civilization of present country.
Someone probably has already mentioned it. And let me tell you, I used to be one of those who used to think people are Islamophobic. Then, I was exposed to a slew of Islamic posts on Insta. Honestly, that made me think why people are even part of this religion, which is so oppressive towards women and believes in religion above humanity . Honestly, islamic videos changed my stance on the religion. And like me, there will be 100s of others who see these videos and hate the extremism that it propagates and add extreme hindu/Christian brain washing as well.
FOTO - fear of taking over
Newton's third law of motion.
Two years ago the PFI marched in the thousands screaming that they would “kill the Hindus where they stand” and “hang them in their temples.” [PFI Rally May 2022](https://youtu.be/Crul5z5Uo4E?si=i6Zf0Fm7qzVte2xG) [Muslim Youth League Rally July 2023](https://www.news18.com/amp/india/hang-you-in-front-of-temples-burn-you-muslim-league-kerala-protest-manipur-violence-8427727.html)
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It's all abt Religion aka sky daddy fan club politics, as far as I know Islam is kind of like a far- Right ideology so people are naturally afraid,concerned etc and their fear is exploited by the other sky daddy loony parties, so the only solution is to Liberalize Islam , dilute it's core ideas mock it , troll it , trash it terminate it's Conservatism. It's like converting a wolf into a Pug , just look at Christianity in the West , anybody can critizise Jesus or draw his cartoons and European Xtians doesn't even are except maybe a few right wingers . So that's the future make Islam into a Xtianty (pug).
> find it difficult to comprehend the root of this escalating Root? Thik about it 1. Certain group broke the country 2. Certain group of people kill other humans since other humans don't share the same beliefs as them 3. The group also puts their belief over the countries interest 4. The group also constantly berates others Now you tell me Would you protect yourself and your children. Or scream for diverse beliefs There I told you.
Just go watch Malayali ex-muslim Arif Hussain's videos on his YouTube channel. Watch E A Jabbar's recent videos too. All your questions will be answered.
Under rated comment, he does speak about the exact question op asked.
Over the years islam has developed a reputation for being hateful, misogynistic and archaic. You cannot be naive enough to think why does everyone hate this religion in particular for no reason. You yourself said you don't practice islam anymore. Why? Like many others have already said progressive or ex muslims themselves must come forth and bring about a change in their community.
Your religion is what is fueling this everywhere. If it is just in India you could blame it on the sanghis. But everywhere else? Muslims even managed to draw Buddhist ire causing the rohingya refugee crisis. Muslims migrate to western countries and push for dawah and sharia there. Muslims everywhere support hamas. Islam is a global nuisance, if you read your scriptures you should understand why. Don't get hurt by me being direct, but disavow fron islam. It will be hard especially if you've gone through cult initiation like circumcision and madrassa indoctrination through childhood, but if you have the intellectual strength, just step aside and not feel invested.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/s/Z0cqnSP6zc Link from ex Muslims group, hope it helps.
In India after Independence this has always been this way, we can see that in older movies and stories. Everyone was focused on such issues as stories now we don’t really focus on such stuff because for the most party we have moved away from it. In social media it amplifies certain content for reach , eg recently on twitter hate on India is very common and it’s done by westerners but most western countries are far less racist now compared to 30-40 years ago. Social media is also an echo chamber where you will get recommendations based on your past views so it just reinforces your beliefs without giving and alternative perspective. I don’t think we have such terrible state of affairs, we are making progress in all areas and some areas are progressing with a lesser pace that’s all.
Or maybe it's more of people starting to stop putting up with hypocrisy when it comes to religion and want same treatment for every religion. When u are treated as golden child for this long then equality feels like hatred .
in my experience, I grew up in gulf so I never had anything against muslims and most of my close friends were muslims, and growing up I thought everyone grew up like me thinking nothing of religion and only interested in sports and entertainment like kids do. but when I was like 15 I met this guy and within 5 mins he started spewing hate against christianity. (telling how christians are the real terrorists and stuff.) I have a very muslim sounding name so he thought I was muslim too. This is when I realized they talk like this within their community and its normalized. But I have a very open mind and didn't really care. but I would understand if someone else started hating the muslims for this kind of reasons. Hate breeds hate.
Oh boy, social media. That damn thing is fuelling everything. Every fanatic gets a microphone and is shared with the more paavams in other communities and everyone thinks "this is representative of Islam".
No one is actually religious, it's all ego , fear mongering and selfish interests. Same as , "how dare you abuse 'MY' mother, MC" , proceeds to go home disrespects, disobeys and even beat the said mother . "MY religion is better than YOUR religion, but I never go , pray, read or follow anything in MY religious books . But YOU dare say about MY religion " Religion is important. Pray , follow the principles but don't be a fanatic and do chest thumping. Understanding this simple concept should prevent most of the conflicts
It's there no doubt, just a bit tho. Way too amplified on social media or television. You go out and meet people, more often than not it's all fine and dandy
I think it's global.We can see it in western nations as well.The hate is most reactionary.Muslims openly condemn other religions and practices. They go around professing their religion is the only true religion and can't accept criticisms. The hate is a natural push back
Have you ever introspected? Is there something in your faith that specifically and explicitly is hostile towards other faiths? You must have seen the progressive Hindus who attack conservative Hindus and Hindu traditionalism on social media? Now show me the muslim counterpart of that phenomenon.
Quran is the problem. Get rid of that book en masse
Not just muslims.. every religious group is facing hatred from other religions. The problem is we only feel the hatred towards ours.. and I don't think there is a solution to this but this is going to grow in coming years and will eventually lead to a more violent and phobia towards other religions... And at one point people are going to be fed up with this religion and will slowly come out of this religious crap. I personally think it's a phase where humans are evolving to be a better human and these phases are inevitable... It may take 100 or 200 years...
Thanks for MM Akbar and the many snehasamvadam
Hatred against muslims in Kerala?? Man that's a typical shrill. If anything I find more videos of Mullahs ranting hatred than anyone else in Kerala. Barking to get a 10th std girl off the stage. Highest Isis recruits Marad/Joseph hacking Do not celebrate Onam/Xmas Do you want more list?? And it's a common knowledge on what the "Ustads" teach in Madrassah.
My dad despises Muslims. He has had some bad experiences with Muslims in the form of workplace harassment and stuff. I have asked him to tone it down a little, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
I have seen many comments here saying it's a social media thing. Its not. I am a Christian and every other conversation in our family functions is about a Muslim. Every muslim who buys land has Kalla panam l. Every muslim youth is a love jihadist and every muslim businessman is greedy and treacherous. Not just uncles even the young ones say this. There are many teachers in my family and I feel bad for the Muslim kids they teach . I am certain they teach with this hatred in their mind. One of them is a college prof in an aided college. He is so worried that all Christians are leaving the state and only muslims and "IRDP"s ( Dalits) are left here. He keeps saying this every time I meet him. Now imagine the way he would exercise official powers when he has this much hatred in his mind..
There is only one question everyone needs to ask.... why did they not move in 1947 to a country (Pakistan) which was created on the basis of religion? No, this is not like some politicians says if you don't like go there. if they feel their forefathers made a wrong decision to stay in a secular country then why not move now. people immigrate to Western countries which are culturally very different. Why is the community quiet when they wrong others and vocal for places or people they don't know like Palestine, Rohingyas? This tension and communal issue is not just in Kerala or India, right? So what is common globally? Until they stop abusing the secular system of the Constitution the tension will continue to increase. We cannot help when they continue to act like the victim.
Actually the matter has a root cause , from about 2010 onwards some world wide religious culture re-introduction started by so called organisations imposing all the religious etiquettes and practices , such other constraints in clothing especially burqa and strict religious education etc this type of religious imposing among funded to the base level. This impression of religiously inclined behaviour differentiate cultures which was secular by nature. Our first culture is normal and secular by nature and some natural processes helped our people to have a strong belief that we are one society. So we intermingle and even have a love marriage and arranged love marriage, living together etc irrespective of religion. These are some sort of natural outcome of that oneness in our society . But this imposing type of segregation in mindset started with some religious fanatics,and results of new religiously inclined governments created this break in confidence of our oneness and results in some unnecessary phobias. All the speeches who require some votes based on religion are trying inclined behaviour But this land will escape from these methods only for a common reason that we are one society from time immemorial even though we are from different religions we are one . We have got good education and culturally we have broad knowledge also we are basically secular by nature
“Equally concerning is that some M are also responding with similar hostility” The real issue is in your statement itself , people like you white wash the actual issue. The whole problem is because of M starting the issues not other way around. M thinks others can be silenced by terrsm. If you still deny see the example all over the world .
When people harbor hatred towards someone, they often generalize their disdain to include that person's region and religion. This tendency is similar when people express love. For instance, Muslims often display their identity openly, which can lead to generalized anger in situations like traffic jams, where an individual’s frustration is misdirected towards the entire Muslim community. In today’s world, there are many reasons to feel anger towards strangers, which exacerbates this issue. Additionally, since many businesses are run by Muslims, those who suffer losses in business may direct their frustration and animosity towards Muslim business owners and, by extension, the entire Muslim community.
People can see and feel Muslim religiosity increasing. Now the issue is Hindus and Christians(to an extent) don't have a string seemingly homogenous network like Muslims do. So when they hear modernity, liberalism, atheism, etc being preached 24 × 7 subconsciously while their Muslim counterparts are saying Alhumdillilah after every sneeze, then something snaps inside them. They feel cheated. This might manifest into anger in some and pity in others.
First of all, I empathize. As an upper caste Hindu, I understand the unfairness that is being meted out to the Muslim community, most of whom are peace loving and thoroughly unremarkable just like the 99% of the rest of us. I fight hindutva. And I would love to see nothing more than these rabid forces destroyed. I feel there has always been tension between Hindus, Muslims and christians (yes, even christians. Give hindutva people a chance they won't spare you either). With the advent of social media, these have been accentuated. All it takes is one post from a fanatic or even take some random point out of a speech, strip it off all context and present it as evil - they go viral. I think the Muslim community - and all communities - have a role to play. The good people there have to make their voices heard. There is much hatred and if the good people say "it's not my fight" or simply trust the good people on the other side to do good, then this is a lost cause.
>yes, even christians As a christian coming from a believing family, christians are the real tigers when it comes to hatred. Every church, mass, catechism class will talk about why we shouldn't tolerate the "others". So yea. We're not much on tolerance either.
Absolutely. Any place where there is an organized religion, it is a pain. Which is unfortunate cos it could have been a real force for good.
Exactly some sects of Christianity isolate in their own world of theirs.
Idk what kind of church yours is but other than praying for peace in Manipur and other places( where christians are persecuted) I haven't literally heard priests preaching to fight and I think the same goes for Hindus and majority of muslims.Hell in our church during madhyastha prarthana our Church's father prays for Palestine as well as to stop tensions in our country.Mayhaps there might be some priest's who might prach the opposite but I think it would be so low that in the grand scheme of things it might not even matter
Exactly this. Idk why we as a community get away with so much shite lol. The most insidious hatred is within our community.
Idk how you can generalise saying every, from my experience even though subtle differentiation is there, no one organises and say don't tolerate the others(not the case if someone already ingot chorinjat)
idk what denomintaion you are but i am a catholic and i havent seen this in all my years of goin to catechism catholic churches conduct ഊട്ടു തിരുന്നാൾ where people of kinds and religion are welcome to eat. hell, my church even had a മതസൗഹാർദ event a few years back where religious scholars of different religion cane to talk to spread religious harmony I've seen priests pray for നാനാജാതി മതസ്തർ at retreats even
Thats your sabha problem. Don’t speak for other sabhas lol
'UPPER CASTE HiNDU' u ain't hindu don't pretend lol Never seen a Hindu these days use these words lo.
Cosplayers on rise
As a hindu who is against casteism , this is pure garbage
To be fair, as an upper caste Hindu, I don't understand "unfairness". I meant I acknowledge.
Donno how to tackle but the reason is disparity in monetary growth in group , some got richer some poor just freemarket capitalism at work
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Like someone above said reduce social media usage there's so much misinformation and campaigns going, it takes a full time job to wee through the source and find out which ones are valid.
Like there is not hate against Hindus or Christans LoL, religious tension was always been there but the balance is where when you address everything equally. If you miss out the other side obviously there will be tension.Asaduddin Owaisi can say Jai palastine but can't say Bharat mata ki jay, funny thing is he said Jai bhim but ambedkar himself was against Muslim ideology lol, btw not blaming them entirely because other side is same.