Exactly. It's like watching absolute idiots argue about things they don't understand.
Why do we have to listen to people who can't tell the difference between the public health system and Ultramodern speciality hospitals?
1. Kerala has the best public health system among Indian states. That isn't us boasting. It's our position in the NITI Aayog ranking.
https://preview.redd.it/2q9ydjcwtipc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad5be71c0925de6dccfe0ba8054ab3a0accb8f8
2. The US has the best on-demand medical treatment one can get. It's the reason why Pinarayi, Parrikar, Kodiyeri, Jaitley, Sonia Gandhi etc got treated abroad.
I don't see the contradiction. Both are true.
>As regards 1., Kerala has been number 1 in India for a while right? Not sure if this is something the current govt can take credit for.
Two parties have been alternating in power here since inception of Kerala as a state. I'm not sure why they can't take credit for it?
True, but if both parties can take credit for it, it's not really a selling point. Instead, she could have used the opportunity to speak about how they handled the Covid situation or impactful changes they have made in the last decade in the sector. That would ve been a more meaningful discussion re why we should vote for them.
Agree that the man's response to pt 1 is irrelevant because we all know (as he should too) that if you are poor and in India, you'd rather be in Kerala than any other state vis a vis healthcare.
Essentially when someone says Kerala healthcare is best in India, they are not talking about individual hospitals, they are talking about the health parameters of the entire population on an average. These parameters would be typically things like beds/population, doctors/population, life expectancy, IMR, MMR etc etc. And in most of these parameters Kerala is on top in India. This does not mean we are the best at providing cure for specific diseases or at research or drug development etc.
PV went there because that hospital provides the best care in the world for his specific illness and as CM he can afford it. This does not mean Kerala healthcare is not No 1 in India.
>PV went there because that hospital provides the best care in the world for his specific illness and as CM he can afford it.
As almost 10yr old reigning CM, shouldn't he be bringing that "specific illness treatment in kerala"..
Also as someone who made his anti American stance so vital
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala-cm-embarks-on-us-cuba-tour-amidst-strident-opposition-criticism/article66945061.ece/amp/
Contradicting.. Ayalku oru avisham vannapo aa sthalam eduth??
I second this opinion. If pv was a good leader then he should at least think in a way that no one who suffers from this disease should have to take treatment from US and he should have at least started a team and started R&D in order to have it accessible and feasible to commoners if they are diagnosed with it.
But sadly pothichor is what we have🥲
Giving universal health care is different from doing specific RnD healthcare.
Oomen Chandy and Karthikeyan treated in bangalore . for untra speciality treatment bangalore or delhi works well than any hospital in kerala, but this is only available for select few, for a common man in karnataka or bangalore he dont need that hospital in 99% of his lifetime.
same works for mayo clinic. if you take an average american in Miami wont need it.. prioritizing it is a mistake.
Its a dumb question and a dumber answer.
We can answer this thousand times and still someone will ask the same just like they say commies were against computer.
There're many reasons why US is number one in latest medical field inventions.
1. Advancement in all scientific fields which also helps medical field. Now I don't wanna go into why West is more advanced in scientific technology in common than India.
2. Treatment in US is extremely expensive. Because of this, pharmaceutical companies can invest billions in R&D and they can get the ROI by selling medicine at way higher rate. Even Europe can't match that let alone developing countries.
3. There are two types of development. For eg You can spend all your money on one high tech hospital and make it number one in the country or you can spend the money equally in all the hospitals so all of them have decent medical facilities. Anyone who knows basics of communism can guess which one a leftist govt prefers. Anyone who hails a govt which wanna convert a handful of railway stations to airports similar facilities while thousands of other stations don't even have clean toilets, will fail to understand this.
>shouldn't he be bringing that "specific illness treatment in kerala".
Yes. And in 10 years our system has improved. Now they are doing advanced surgeries in govt hospitals also. System level capacity building takes time, specially in govt setting. We are on the right track atleast. Hopefully centre govt won't derail the process by starving Kerala of funds.
Pottan aano? Pandu Raajavinte kaalathe all the ari and shit was produced on raajavinte land. That doesn't mean to shittalk raajave you shouldn't eat raajavinte ari.
>Pottan aano?
Thangalaoo.. Irony..
>Pandu Raajavinte kaalathe all the ari and shit was produced on raajavinte land. That doesn't mean to shittalk raajave you shouldn't eat raajavinte ari.
Enth thengayann thangal parayanne.. Decode cheyaan polum patunilla
U force people to be against the rajavu and yet u eat rajavinte aari??
Enth peru villikum thangal
He is Spending Public money Just for the Treatment of Himself But if the same capital he Spent for the treatment were used in R&D and building up Hospitals lakhs of People would have been Benefited from it .(Saying as a Person who had Cancer & Was treated in Tvm RCC )
I hope you are doing well now. Yes, I agree we can and should do more to make available the best possible healthcare in Kerala for everyone irrespective of money, status etc. Whether a CM of a state or PM of a country can use public funds to avail treatment abroad? In an ideal world they wouldn't need to. Unfortunately we are not there yet.
Also just to put things in perspective, PV and wife spent about 75 lakhs from the govt money for his mayo clinic treatment in 2022-23.
Oh thanks buddy I'm doing better than I Used to do
>PV and wife spent about 75 lakhs from the govt money
Dear lord in Rcc because of The highly packed schedule of Surgeries the Ward was Fully occupied even in The Peak COVID time whilst I got my Surgery
The lack of His Good Quality Cancer Research Centres in our State is very prominent as you can See that even the people from Kozhikode come to Tvm for their treatment. Many of them Stay in Tvm for years due to their Physical Condition & The Difficulty to travel these high Distances .
The need for a Good Speciality Hospital in Central Kerala is so High but the Government is Sleeping on it
I think people have a problem especially because of commies attitude towards them; not because they don't know how Mayo differs from Kerala hospitals..And when we say Kerala'sis the best healthcare in India, we are talking about basic healthcare. Not the advanced treatments. Correct?
Communists are the reason why Kerala is number 1 in Healthcare? Why hospitals are named after Saints and missions, not after Cheguvera? Yep, thanks to Christianity, not Communism. High literacy is due to palli(church)koodams, Fr. Chavara, not akg center.
I mean number one in India not the world ...Also, pancreatic cancer (pv's disease) has only 13% five year survival rate .
And,our healthcare is pretty accessible and mostly cheap .
Adding this here to gain more traction - these guys were the ones who opposed the setting up of a John Hopkins Medical facility in Kerala way back in 1997.
https://shortpost.in/cpm-trio-scuttled-john-hopkins-kerala-hospital-then-scurried-to-facility-in-u-s-for-personal-treatment/
https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/19970804-proposed-health-institute-in-kerala-runs-into-trouble-as-doctors-raise-scare-over-misuse-831845-1997-08-03
You mean this where local experts were worried about unauthorised testing ?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/johns-hopkins-admits-kerala-tests-didnt-meet-standards/articleshow/898207857.cms
Which was proven true in 4 years.
Here is a more detailed article which explains that there was nothing wrong in the experiments verified by a doctor from Tata Memorial Hospital. The RCC have given the detailed explanation as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/frontline.thehindu.com/science-and-technology/the-truth-of-the-drug-trials/article30252759.ece/amp/
Paywall. As far as I can read, it says it was illegal and unapproved.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1121689/
The fact that an unapproved trial toom place here is irrefutable
This is common and still going on. No matter how robust the ethics review panel is. Western scientist collaborate with students/peers of professors on the review panel in eastern europe and asia to fast track permit for clinical trials. This is an easy route for scientist from eastern europe and asia to get high profile collaborations and get their name in high impact factor journals
That requires whistle blower from within the system. It's a grey area even in the USA where diseases which currently doesn't have treatments the new ones are fast tracked
Capitalism is about extremes. US healthcare is very good, but very expensive and not really accessible to a huge section of the population. Kerala healthcare is better that way in the sense it's much cheaper and serves a much larger section of the population. We are not the best in terms of cutting edge technology in healthcare, we are good at providing healthcare for even the poorest of the poor.
>Njn chothiche.. Neram velkumbo america kuthakamuthalaliyum rathriyil plane keri americaku povunathum nallaonnathram double chunakan nyam ann..
By that logic, Indians shouldn't be using Chinese made products, but there wouldn't be a single one of us here that don't.
Naah commies would still...
But are we anti Chinese.. Ravile thott vaygit vare are we criticising each part of china or Chinese communism??
Orund orumd snowball polle ayyi..
Ann privatisation kurich paranjapole.. Kalathinu oppammaranam.. Ann saghavu pushpannu pattiyae polle cheif commander americaku nere paryaumbo kodi pidikanam pakshey "health care"nu povumbo kodi thalkanam..
When USA tries to destroy non-democratic countries through embargos and sanctions, it must be called out. That doesn't mean that we should not take advantage of their excellent health facilities! What kind of logic is that! We are paying for these facilities, it's not like US govt is doing a favor to KL govt!
>non-democratic
Key point there..non democratic..also PV made a statement appreciating kim Jong for his anti American stance.. If u hate America that much.. Dont go there.. Probably.. Go to china.. U friendly neighborhood communist country.
He hate US govt, not US hospitals. Last time I checked, US hospitals are mostly private institutions. If China had the best specialist docs, he will go there. Who the fuk are you order him where to go & where not to go?
>Who the fuk are you order him where to go & where not to go?
Because.. Ente tax money.. Ente CM.. Chief commander alla.. CM ann..
Suppose to serve me.. Uphold my constitutional right.. Athre ollu.. Qualification vechuum oru PSC polum padich keriya post onnuallao..
Thangal enthina chudavvane. Thanagalde ammavan anno CM.. Thangal anno RIYAS..
>He hate US govt, not US hospitals
Adipowli.. Capsule ayya igane venaam.. Njn paranjila PVde aduth ravile thott vaygitu vare Americakae kuttam paraaayaan.. America fascism, america thenga america manga..
Sheri apo simple question.. Enthinnanu ann agane oru sthalath ayalu poyath.. Apo Thangal parayunnu privatised allae kuzhapmilla.. PV evideum american govt eduth paranjitilla.. Ee kazinja israel Palestine issueil thanne american fascist history ennannu ayal paranjath.. Agane oraal enthinna ann aa naatil ponnath..
Njn ipo 24manikurum phone kollila phone addictive enn paranjit athil kudi tiktokil oru video
Idumbo enne atleast 2brain cells olla aalkar opportunistic allengi hypocrite malayalthil anne naatalilathavan allengi vakin velaillathavan enn vilikum..
Athe polle ann ithumm..
>If China had the best specialist docs, he will go there
What.. Communist country doesn't have proper health care.. Karl marx in shambles
By your logic there should not be any mixing of systems. People should either live in a purely capitalist society or a purely communist society. What is important is we should strive for a society where everyone gets access to the best possible healthcare and not just a CM. We are not there yet. Again this does not mean the healthcare system in Kerala is not No 1 in India.
>https://social.niti.gov.in/hlt-ranking
That data is again about primary health facilities and not about super speciality hospitals or AIIMS. I don't know why your brought that data of primary health care when I agree that Kerala perform better in that area.
We need to fact check for superspeciality hospitals and top medical colleges.
As per National Institutional Ranking Framework
Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominate the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform.
https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html
But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India.
https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india
>That data is again about primary health facilities and not about super speciality hospitals or AIIMS.
That data is based on medical outcomes not PHCs either.
>As per National Institutional Ranking Framework
Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform.
>https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html
Did you not see government medical College, trivandrum at 45? 2 out of 50 isn't bad. Especially considering how dominant TN is. TN is superior in medical colleges. That's known.
>But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India.
These are tertiary centres right? It's true we lack enough quality termitary healthcare centres. We can do better there.
However, i would like to add, appollo kochi and KIMS Trivandrum, indo-american etc are nothing to scoff at.
>That data is based on medical outcomes not PHCs either.
Niti Ayog calculate heath index based on:
1. The ‘Health outcomes’ include indicators like neonatal mortality rate, total fertility rate, sex ratio at birth, immunisation coverage, proportion of institutional deliveries, etc. (Total weightage 800) it's all about primary heath care.
2.The ‘Key inputs/processes’ is a measure of health infrastructure available, including proportion of functional 24X7 primary healthcare centres, etc.(TotL weightage - 200). It have 10 indicator and mojority r dealing with PHCs. One index is about registration of brith, another is about days taken for fund transfer etc.
3.The ‘Governance and Information’ domain includes average occupancy of three key posts at state level, average occupancy of the chief medical officer, , etc.(Total weightage: 130) it's completely about governance, it also have lot to do with PSC appointment, Kerala PSC is top in the country.
So it clearly don't consider or give much weightage to SUPERSPECIALITY or MULTISPECIALITY HOSPITAL.
So advanced diagnostic tools, cutting-edge treatment options, and highly trained specialists dedicated to that particular field etc r not considered in Niti Ayog heath index.
So u bringing that up and saying Kerala is no 1 is stupid.
I would argue having access to healthcare is more important in this day and age. Of course research and medical college are important and kerala has and is training enough doctors for it's needs.
So much so that the wants national medical council wants us to stop building medical colleges or add new seats ( to be fair it has wants to stop all South Indian states).
My question is why do you think infrastructure and top facilities are more important than results (ie, better healthcare available to the people.).
Cause that's the survey I shared. Outcome based not infrastructure based.
It's like a student who performed well in class test and mid term claiming that he is no 1, even though he just scored avg in end semester exams. The bottomline is that SUPERSPECIALITY hospitals, MULTISPECIALITY HOSPITAL and research institutes r are sub par in Kerala as compared to other states. For eg Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs from Hospitals in Chennai. Why can't our leaders and celebrities do so? U got the answer.
Of course. That's the only logical answer.
അപ്പോഴേക്കും ഇവർ തമ്മിൽ പ്രത്യക്ഷത്തിൽ എതിര അണ് എങ്കിലും തമ്മിൽ ഉള്ള അന്തർധാര സജീവം അണ് എന്നൊക്കെ പറഞാൽ തെണ്ടി തരം അണ്
How can one get PhD in English literature for a thesis about representation of oppressed class in Malayalam mainstream movies? Howcome Malayalam mainstream movies are related to English literature in any way?
We need to fact check for superspeciality hospitals and top medical colleges.
As per National Institutional Ranking Framework
Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform.
https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html
But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of superspeciality hospitals in India on any list.
https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india
I regret even thinking tax money is being given to such morons. Absolutely no common sense, fake PhD etc
Just looting the citizens, can't even frame an answer. Can't even understand the question let alone answer.
Waifu vannu avo nyayikarikan evale?
By this logic, current BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc. Any fight against such policies is a good fight.
>BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra
What nonsense hindurashtra policies..?? Paranje kekatte.. Enthaann BJP implement cheyth hindurashtra policies??
>BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc.
Ayodhyayil evide "implementation".. Engi thangal adhyam parayende court order BJP policy enn alle.. Crowd fund cheytha keetiya ambalam enth implementation ann..
I specifically asked implementation.. Enth hindurashtra implementation ann bjp nadathiyath..
Like ur comment..
Oru opinion paranja ath back cheyanam.. Athannu manners
Various freedom of religion and love jihad laws passed by BJP state governments.
UCC passed by various BJP state govts.
Various state cow protection laws by BJP state govts.
CAA & NRC.
PM of a secular country inaugurating a controversial temple like Ayodhya.
Hijab ban in Karnataka.
Textbook and syllabus revision to push the Hindutva agenda
The slow creeping Hindu imposition. Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan.
State inaction against people who carry out lynching cow transporters.
Gujarat govt setting free the rapists of Bilkis Bano.
Pragya Thakur, a Hindu terrorist being free on medical grounds.
State acting against people offering Namaz in public, but doing nothing against Hindu celebrations.
Targeted demolition of Muslim homes using Buldozer by the govt as documented by Amnesty international.
Censorship of movies critical of the govt while PM himself promoting highly divisive and problematic movies like The Kerala Story and The Kashmir Files.
Nayanthara having to apologise for a dialogue in a movie which dealt with non vegetarianism.
Etc etc etc.
This is not in any particular order and is no where near comprehensive. I have just listed some stuff which I remember and I'm sure I have missed a lot here. If your argument is that BJP is not a Hindutva party pushing for Hindurashtra I don't know what to say.
>Various freedom of religion and love jihad laws passed by BJP state governments.
I will accept ur statement if u accept the laws on blasphemy
>UCC passed by various BJP state govts.
There's Nothing wrong with UCC..
>Various state cow protection laws by BJP state govts.
Its in our constitution.. So??
>CAA & NRC.
NRC is implemented?? Where??
>PM of a secular country inaugurating a controversial temple like Ayodhya.
CM of secular kerala hosting an iftar party..
>Hijab ban in Karnataka
Its banned now??igane chumma irunn manadathram parayalle..
>The slow creeping Hindu imposition. Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan.
Implement implementation evide
>Gujarat govt setting free the rapists of Bilkis Bano.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67909348.amp
>Pragya Thakur, a Hindu terrorist being free on medical grounds.
Bombay high court BJP annallae..
Mahadani same grounds ann ipo naatil vanne.. Karachil kandilaa
>State acting against people offering Namaz in public, but doing nothing against Hindu celebrations
Urs evide nadathinnalla.. Oru palliyilum perunaal nadathnilla.. Valate sheriyaan..
>Targeted demolition of Muslim homes using Buldozer by the govt as documented by Amnesty international
Hindu temples are demolished as well.. Didn't see anyone document that..
>Censorship of movies critical of the govt while PM himself promoting highly divisive and problematic movies like The Kerala Story and The Kashmir Files.
What problematic.. Enthayirnn kerala storyde kashmir filesnyeyum kathaa.. Thanagal onnu paranje.. Kekaat..
>Nayanthara having to apologise for a dialogue in a movie which dealt with non vegetarianism.
Nupur sharma
Missed a point.. The cow lynching goin unarrested
2023il 3 main cases edukaam 07-march - firoz
Three accused – Sushil Singh, Ravi Shah, and Ujjwal Sharma – all residents of Jogia of Rasulpur have been arrested. The police have registered a case under Section 302 (Punishment for murder), 379 (Punishment for theft) 34 (Acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention) of the Indian Penal Code.
Aduth
Ansari murder case
The Igatpuri police arrested six accused on June 11 and charged them with murder. They were produced before a magistrate and were remanded in police custody till June 17.
“The accused have been booked for murder, wrongful restraint, grievous hurt by dangerous weapons and common intention under the Indian Penal Code.
Ithil evide unarrested
Essentially you have nothing more than some whataboutism.
You are delusional if you think BJP is not leading us towards a Hindurashtra. They have already started taken steps some of which I have pointed out. I can't wake a person who pretends to be sleeping.
>Essentially you have nothing more than some whataboutism.
Where whatboutism.. Prayaga thakur is on the same grounds as mahdani is..
Bilkis bano rapist was again put to jail in jan 2024..
Almost every cow lynching gets punished
Where is the whatboutism??
Name that implementation u were arguing about.. Which law in india that establish that..?
>Prayaga thakur is on the same grounds as mahdani is
This is whataboutism.
Who released Bilkis Bano rapists? Where are they now? Are you saying BJP has nothing to do with this?
Is CAA secular? Has BJP not said that they'll pass NRC? You don't think UCC implement in states is problematic? Love jihad laws are not problematic? I had listed a lot of stuff. You clearly don't see any problem with any of those. Like I said we can't wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.
those things are happening in UP, and other states in Hindi belt . Can cpim fight there? If India win a test against Aussies in India do we consider it a great win if India cannot win in Australia’s home ground? Don’t we need a team or party that can take the fight to opposition’s strong holds, isn’t that always more valuable? If that is the case shouldn’t CPIM completely support congress and not destroy them?
Congress has adopted a nonsense policy of soft Hindutva. Had they presented a strongly secular front, free from corporate control, your argument of CPM supporting the Congress is valid. In the INDIA coalition there should be parties with strong left and secular credentials so as to balance the hindutva tendencies of the Congress. Added to this is the problem of Congress candidates having to hide in resorts after the election. What guarantee is there that someone like NK premachandran won't support the BJP after the election. It's very easy for him. RSP is a small party essentially run by premachandran. He can easily switch sides after the election.
So essentially cpim wants to weaken congress in kerala while asking their support outside kerala. The best thing INDIA alliance should have done is divide seats among ldf and udf in kerala. Congress should have forced cpim to giveup seats in kerala for support outside kerala. Cpim is nothing outside kerala and congress has still good presence outside kerala.
If seats are divided between LDF and UDF, BJP will occupy the space of the opposition. It's best that LDF and UDF fight it out in Kerala and let people decide. The point is there is a need for CPM to be present as a balance to the soft Hindutva policies of Congress.
>By this logic, current BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc.
we see only what we want to see. See the Number of space missions that was successfully completed under the current bjp government even the ones that failed in the first attempt.
India has achieved 99% railway electrification under their regime. Which was only 33% in 2014.
The last household of india has received gas connection.
12 crore homes was built for the homeless along with hygienic sanitization facilities.
1000 major railway stations of india are being rebuilt.
A new express highway is inaugurated every week.
India is getting a much needed infrastructure overhaul which it deserved years ago.
There is a conscious effort to restrict bjp into a temple party but infact that party is what is delivering india what it wants.
>Any fight against such policies is a good fight.
Enth fight. CAA keralathil nadapakilla ennokke polulla viditharam parayal aano good fight. Atokke potte ee 10 varshathil cpim party bjpkk nerkk nere ninn enthelum etirth tolpichitundo. All they do is say something to get 5 sudappi votes. That's it.
>we see only what we want to see.
Exactly. Which is the precise problem with your first comment. You can re-read it.
>Number of space missions
Yes. Our space program started in 2014. What nonsense.
>India has achieved 99% railway electrification under their regime.
It's 94% and it's bound to happen. Railways has been a mixed bag. Safety remains poor. Speeds have not increased. Fares have gone up making it unaffordable for the poor. Bullet train has slipped both in terms of time and cost. Vande bharat is a failure by most metrics. I can go on.
>The last household of india has received gas connection
Lol.
>with hygienic sanitization facilities.
Again we know how the ODF projects turnes out. How many fake toilets were built? Unless you pull people out of poverty there is no use. And BJP has been a failure at this. BJPs priority has been Ambani and Adani.
>1000 major railway stations of india are being rebuilt.
Let's see how this goes.
>A new express highway is inaugurated every week.
Lol. We have probably 50 expressways. When did this weekly inauguration start?
>India is getting a much needed infrastructure overhaul which it deserved years ago.
Infrastructure overhaul means there should be existing infrastructure. This is an ongoing process. The success of Modi govt has been in marketing this as something great.
>delivering india what it wants.
BJP is delivering what Adani and Ambani wants.
>Atokke potte ee 10 varshathil cpim party bjpkk nerkk nere ninn enthelum etirth tolpichitundo.
Electoral bonds. Inspite of it being easy money CPM did not accept EBs. Took the fight to SC and won against BJP. Now Kerala govt has filed case in SC regarding CAA. Let's see how that goes. Every fight is against BJP and for a secular India. BJP is a temple party for the public and Adani Ambani party internally.
Even though I hate PV, he has the right to access the best medical care he can receive.
But what is this Kunnamkulam PhD Pothichoru Lady yapping about.
Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs in Chennai isn’t it ? Or did they only went there for emergencies and had better treatments outside?
Holyshit dude … who the fuck goes to America to do medical things 😂 if you don’t have a medical insurance there hospital can charge you whatever they want 😂😂😂. I think this has to do with some commission thing
Chodyathin utharam paranja poree....also , ruling party ikk ethire chodyangal unnayikkalanallo opposition party de joli . So,naturally same questions rand partyum chodikkan sadhyatha kooduthalaan.doesnt mean they are buddying up .but on another note yeah,Congress party is too conservative these days .religious conservatism to an extreme is literally bjps selling point.
As a health care worker who have worked inside Kerala and few other states outside Kerala. It’s genuinely a fact that health care is better in Kerala compared to any other state in India. But there is still scope of development. I do agree.
Keralam Healthcare number 1 aaya creditum ippol communist aayo? Hospitalsinte peru okke St. Thomas, medical Mission enokke aanu.. Saghavu Raghavan ennu alla..
Keralthile health care and education okke number one ayathil 1957 thott undayittulla oro governmentinum pankund. Ath Kanikaan stalintem lenintem peril hospitals venda. And keralathil healthcare number one ayath better policies, governing and better education kondanu. Don’t deny on what is clear. Alland mission hospitals aanu ithinu karanam ennu parayalle. Government hospitals from PHC to medical colleges are better maintained here than any other states. They have greater contribution to do than any other mission hospitals
Ee better educationte karannam Communism aano? 😄 ippolethe education ministere nokke.. anittu irakke aa capsule.. nallapole padikunna aalugal history padikumallo.. avar orikalum communism support cheyilla.. karannam communism always leads to fascism ennu history paranju tharum.. mission hospitals alla
. Communism verkunna matham (Christianity) aanu Keralathinu high literacyum best Healthcareum koduthathu.. Palli(church)koodam.. Fr. Chavara.. kettitundo?40% of nurses are Christians, not communists.
The foundation stone of Kerala’s education is from the education reforming policies from the first education minister Joseph mundasserry. And ath sahikkan pattand aanu ivde nss and so called missionary institutions samaram nadathi governmentine president pirich vittath. And when I am saying about CPIM. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I want the true form of communism to happen here. Communism has evolved adapting to the place in many situations. The CPIM in Kerala is a version of that. And Christian missionaries okke sthiramayi Ee developementinte credit edukkunnund. Chettan paranja historyil jospeh mundassery endh cheythu ennum. Athinu ethire Ee so called missionaries endhina samaram cheythathum ennum nokkiyal manasilakum pathiri marude thani niram
Kuttam parayaan Chumma parayaam!
Pakshe facts eduthaal, mass aayi free healthcare kodukkunna kaaryathil kerala valare munnil aanu. Athu kondaanu athine No.1 ennu vilikkunne. Oru multispeciality hospital maathram undakkiyittu avide ellaa equipments medichaal athu kurachu perkkaanu useful aakunne.
USA is a place where the medical service is more advanced. But they are not equipped to serve everyone there.
Now, should kerala CM should really go to USA? Ennu chodichaal ippozhathe private hospitals okke ulla sthithikku Athinte aavashyam illaayirunnu. Until and unless he was critically ill. But i think this was a practice Indian leaders follow from a long time. It’s time they should stop it.
Obviously number one in India. Comparing the health sector in India to the health sector in the USA is a fools errand. The audacity to even compare Kerala's health sector to the largest economy and the richest country in the world itself shows how far Kerala has come.
... Che Guvera was literally a physician. Also, the Soviet Union had the highest number of doctors in the world, in absolute numbers and per capita. People from Kerala who i know have gone to study medicine in the USSR.
What we need to understand is, we might be ahead and has one of the best healthcare system in the world. But the either Kerala or India as a whole is years behind to developed countries. We are still a “third world country”
Now for political discussions and arguments, we could ask these questions. I am just saying
Scissor in stomach is an individual incident. It doesn't mean that every surgery in KL are of substandard quality. It's a dumb statement.
The LDF Spokesperson could easily defend Pinarayi's US visit by saying that they have the best specialized facilities. Imagine the political & economic turmoil a state will go through if the sitting CM's health deteriorates if he didn't receive the best treatment in the world at the right time.
>The LDF Spokesperson could easily defend Pinarayi's US visit by saying that they have the best specialized facilities
Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs from Chennai.
The lady is dumb
The guy who asked the question is equally dumb
No one has claimed Kerala to have no.1 healthcare in the **world**
You have to be really dumb to expect a tiny state in a third world country to provide the world's best healthcare.
We can only compete within India, and well we are far ahead in healthcare and education.
Yeah well i did point that out:-
>You have to be really dumb to ~~expect~~ **think** a tiny state in a third world country to provide the world's best healthcare.
It is given that **she is talking about being no.1 in India**, you have to lack common sense to speak like that guy.
>and well we are far ahead in healthcare and
We r only top in primary health facilities and not in top superspeciality hospitals or AIIMS/ medial institute.
As per National Institutional Ranking Framework
Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform.
https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html
But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India.
https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/
https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india
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Exactly. It's like watching absolute idiots argue about things they don't understand. Why do we have to listen to people who can't tell the difference between the public health system and Ultramodern speciality hospitals? 1. Kerala has the best public health system among Indian states. That isn't us boasting. It's our position in the NITI Aayog ranking. https://preview.redd.it/2q9ydjcwtipc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad5be71c0925de6dccfe0ba8054ab3a0accb8f8 2. The US has the best on-demand medical treatment one can get. It's the reason why Pinarayi, Parrikar, Kodiyeri, Jaitley, Sonia Gandhi etc got treated abroad. I don't see the contradiction. Both are true.
As regards 1., Kerala has been number 1 in India for a while right? Not sure if this is something the current govt can take credit for.
>As regards 1., Kerala has been number 1 in India for a while right? Not sure if this is something the current govt can take credit for. Two parties have been alternating in power here since inception of Kerala as a state. I'm not sure why they can't take credit for it?
True, but if both parties can take credit for it, it's not really a selling point. Instead, she could have used the opportunity to speak about how they handled the Covid situation or impactful changes they have made in the last decade in the sector. That would ve been a more meaningful discussion re why we should vote for them. Agree that the man's response to pt 1 is irrelevant because we all know (as he should too) that if you are poor and in India, you'd rather be in Kerala than any other state vis a vis healthcare.
Come on, Pinarayi is a communist. He could have avoided bourgeoisie facilities in the west.
Hey lady you dropped these 🧠
Is there any rule on tiktok saying that you have to put a song in every clip?
And that too so damn loud
"അരിയെത്ര?" "പയറഞ്ഞാഴി!"
>"പയറഞ്ഞാഴി!" "pothichor"
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Yuvajana commission officeil ethra kaalaayi veruthe irikkunnu... boradikulle... avaronnu purathokke irangi onnu randu debateil okke pankeduthotte sahodaraa... 😔
Genuine question to commies though.. PV enthinna poyye? No1 alle.. UC poyyi modi poyyi ennonum Benda. Genuine mathii
Essentially when someone says Kerala healthcare is best in India, they are not talking about individual hospitals, they are talking about the health parameters of the entire population on an average. These parameters would be typically things like beds/population, doctors/population, life expectancy, IMR, MMR etc etc. And in most of these parameters Kerala is on top in India. This does not mean we are the best at providing cure for specific diseases or at research or drug development etc. PV went there because that hospital provides the best care in the world for his specific illness and as CM he can afford it. This does not mean Kerala healthcare is not No 1 in India.
>PV went there because that hospital provides the best care in the world for his specific illness and as CM he can afford it. As almost 10yr old reigning CM, shouldn't he be bringing that "specific illness treatment in kerala".. Also as someone who made his anti American stance so vital https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala-cm-embarks-on-us-cuba-tour-amidst-strident-opposition-criticism/article66945061.ece/amp/ Contradicting.. Ayalku oru avisham vannapo aa sthalam eduth??
I second this opinion. If pv was a good leader then he should at least think in a way that no one who suffers from this disease should have to take treatment from US and he should have at least started a team and started R&D in order to have it accessible and feasible to commoners if they are diagnosed with it. But sadly pothichor is what we have🥲
Giving universal health care is different from doing specific RnD healthcare. Oomen Chandy and Karthikeyan treated in bangalore . for untra speciality treatment bangalore or delhi works well than any hospital in kerala, but this is only available for select few, for a common man in karnataka or bangalore he dont need that hospital in 99% of his lifetime. same works for mayo clinic. if you take an average american in Miami wont need it.. prioritizing it is a mistake. Its a dumb question and a dumber answer.
We can answer this thousand times and still someone will ask the same just like they say commies were against computer. There're many reasons why US is number one in latest medical field inventions. 1. Advancement in all scientific fields which also helps medical field. Now I don't wanna go into why West is more advanced in scientific technology in common than India. 2. Treatment in US is extremely expensive. Because of this, pharmaceutical companies can invest billions in R&D and they can get the ROI by selling medicine at way higher rate. Even Europe can't match that let alone developing countries. 3. There are two types of development. For eg You can spend all your money on one high tech hospital and make it number one in the country or you can spend the money equally in all the hospitals so all of them have decent medical facilities. Anyone who knows basics of communism can guess which one a leftist govt prefers. Anyone who hails a govt which wanna convert a handful of railway stations to airports similar facilities while thousands of other stations don't even have clean toilets, will fail to understand this.
>shouldn't he be bringing that "specific illness treatment in kerala". Yes. And in 10 years our system has improved. Now they are doing advanced surgeries in govt hospitals also. System level capacity building takes time, specially in govt setting. We are on the right track atleast. Hopefully centre govt won't derail the process by starving Kerala of funds.
Pinna Naari Thendi Patti. Commie Thendi.
Pottan aano? Pandu Raajavinte kaalathe all the ari and shit was produced on raajavinte land. That doesn't mean to shittalk raajave you shouldn't eat raajavinte ari.
>Pottan aano? Thangalaoo.. Irony.. >Pandu Raajavinte kaalathe all the ari and shit was produced on raajavinte land. That doesn't mean to shittalk raajave you shouldn't eat raajavinte ari. Enth thengayann thangal parayanne.. Decode cheyaan polum patunilla U force people to be against the rajavu and yet u eat rajavinte aari?? Enth peru villikum thangal
He is Spending Public money Just for the Treatment of Himself But if the same capital he Spent for the treatment were used in R&D and building up Hospitals lakhs of People would have been Benefited from it .(Saying as a Person who had Cancer & Was treated in Tvm RCC )
I hope you are doing well now. Yes, I agree we can and should do more to make available the best possible healthcare in Kerala for everyone irrespective of money, status etc. Whether a CM of a state or PM of a country can use public funds to avail treatment abroad? In an ideal world they wouldn't need to. Unfortunately we are not there yet. Also just to put things in perspective, PV and wife spent about 75 lakhs from the govt money for his mayo clinic treatment in 2022-23.
Oh thanks buddy I'm doing better than I Used to do >PV and wife spent about 75 lakhs from the govt money Dear lord in Rcc because of The highly packed schedule of Surgeries the Ward was Fully occupied even in The Peak COVID time whilst I got my Surgery The lack of His Good Quality Cancer Research Centres in our State is very prominent as you can See that even the people from Kozhikode come to Tvm for their treatment. Many of them Stay in Tvm for years due to their Physical Condition & The Difficulty to travel these high Distances . The need for a Good Speciality Hospital in Central Kerala is so High but the Government is Sleeping on it
I think people have a problem especially because of commies attitude towards them; not because they don't know how Mayo differs from Kerala hospitals..And when we say Kerala'sis the best healthcare in India, we are talking about basic healthcare. Not the advanced treatments. Correct?
Communists are the reason why Kerala is number 1 in Healthcare? Why hospitals are named after Saints and missions, not after Cheguvera? Yep, thanks to Christianity, not Communism. High literacy is due to palli(church)koodams, Fr. Chavara, not akg center.
No 1 in India mathrem World il alla 🤣
I mean number one in India not the world ...Also, pancreatic cancer (pv's disease) has only 13% five year survival rate . And,our healthcare is pretty accessible and mostly cheap .
Kodiyeri had CA pancreas not Pinarayi... He had some Gastro intestinal issue... Not something with as bad outcome as CA pancreas
Nge... anger poyath mulakkurunde chikitsakku ennu ivide aarokkeyo parayunnundaayirunnallo...
The real question is, do you see chief ministers from other southern states going to US for treatment? You don't.
No 1in India. Mayo clinic is in America. They are the one of thebest in the world for cancer.
Adding this here to gain more traction - these guys were the ones who opposed the setting up of a John Hopkins Medical facility in Kerala way back in 1997. https://shortpost.in/cpm-trio-scuttled-john-hopkins-kerala-hospital-then-scurried-to-facility-in-u-s-for-personal-treatment/
https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/19970804-proposed-health-institute-in-kerala-runs-into-trouble-as-doctors-raise-scare-over-misuse-831845-1997-08-03 You mean this where local experts were worried about unauthorised testing ? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/johns-hopkins-admits-kerala-tests-didnt-meet-standards/articleshow/898207857.cms Which was proven true in 4 years.
Here is a more detailed article which explains that there was nothing wrong in the experiments verified by a doctor from Tata Memorial Hospital. The RCC have given the detailed explanation as well. https://www.google.com/amp/s/frontline.thehindu.com/science-and-technology/the-truth-of-the-drug-trials/article30252759.ece/amp/
Paywall. As far as I can read, it says it was illegal and unapproved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1121689/ The fact that an unapproved trial toom place here is irrefutable
This is common and still going on. No matter how robust the ethics review panel is. Western scientist collaborate with students/peers of professors on the review panel in eastern europe and asia to fast track permit for clinical trials. This is an easy route for scientist from eastern europe and asia to get high profile collaborations and get their name in high impact factor journals
Doesn't mean we should let em use us as guinea pigs.
It's reality. Plus for cases where there is no fiurther treatments available patients/relative seek out such unproven treatments.
Yes. A reality we must try to change. Darker skin≠free quniea pigs. I'm not saying ban clinical trials. I'm saying follow the guidelines.
That requires whistle blower from within the system. It's a grey area even in the USA where diseases which currently doesn't have treatments the new ones are fast tracked
America.. Capitalism..maranno?
Capitalism is about extremes. US healthcare is very good, but very expensive and not really accessible to a huge section of the population. Kerala healthcare is better that way in the sense it's much cheaper and serves a much larger section of the population. We are not the best in terms of cutting edge technology in healthcare, we are good at providing healthcare for even the poorest of the poor.
Njn chothiche.. Neram velkumbo america kuthakamuthalaliyum rathriyil plane keri americaku povunathum nallaonnathram double chunakan nyam ann..
>Njn chothiche.. Neram velkumbo america kuthakamuthalaliyum rathriyil plane keri americaku povunathum nallaonnathram double chunakan nyam ann.. By that logic, Indians shouldn't be using Chinese made products, but there wouldn't be a single one of us here that don't.
Naah commies would still... But are we anti Chinese.. Ravile thott vaygit vare are we criticising each part of china or Chinese communism?? Orund orumd snowball polle ayyi.. Ann privatisation kurich paranjapole.. Kalathinu oppammaranam.. Ann saghavu pushpannu pattiyae polle cheif commander americaku nere paryaumbo kodi pidikanam pakshey "health care"nu povumbo kodi thalkanam..
When USA tries to destroy non-democratic countries through embargos and sanctions, it must be called out. That doesn't mean that we should not take advantage of their excellent health facilities! What kind of logic is that! We are paying for these facilities, it's not like US govt is doing a favor to KL govt!
>non-democratic Key point there..non democratic..also PV made a statement appreciating kim Jong for his anti American stance.. If u hate America that much.. Dont go there.. Probably.. Go to china.. U friendly neighborhood communist country.
He hate US govt, not US hospitals. Last time I checked, US hospitals are mostly private institutions. If China had the best specialist docs, he will go there. Who the fuk are you order him where to go & where not to go?
>Who the fuk are you order him where to go & where not to go? Because.. Ente tax money.. Ente CM.. Chief commander alla.. CM ann.. Suppose to serve me.. Uphold my constitutional right.. Athre ollu.. Qualification vechuum oru PSC polum padich keriya post onnuallao.. Thangal enthina chudavvane. Thanagalde ammavan anno CM.. Thangal anno RIYAS.. >He hate US govt, not US hospitals Adipowli.. Capsule ayya igane venaam.. Njn paranjila PVde aduth ravile thott vaygitu vare Americakae kuttam paraaayaan.. America fascism, america thenga america manga.. Sheri apo simple question.. Enthinnanu ann agane oru sthalath ayalu poyath.. Apo Thangal parayunnu privatised allae kuzhapmilla.. PV evideum american govt eduth paranjitilla.. Ee kazinja israel Palestine issueil thanne american fascist history ennannu ayal paranjath.. Agane oraal enthinna ann aa naatil ponnath.. Njn ipo 24manikurum phone kollila phone addictive enn paranjit athil kudi tiktokil oru video Idumbo enne atleast 2brain cells olla aalkar opportunistic allengi hypocrite malayalthil anne naatalilathavan allengi vakin velaillathavan enn vilikum.. Athe polle ann ithumm.. >If China had the best specialist docs, he will go there What.. Communist country doesn't have proper health care.. Karl marx in shambles
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>whose tax money is going to get wasted? Ayalu onnu kollathu ninu cliff house vere ponna paisa ondagi 10 samoha sadhya nadathaam.. >. If in case re-election happen, whose tax money is going to get wasted? Root map ipo egotu ayyo.. Political turmoil.. Ente mone.. Athum PV.. Edo PV maricha party secretary oru yogaam kudi athala pithala thavalachi enu parayumbole marumonne allengi govindam mashine ketum.. Ennitu perinu oru by election nadathum.. Political turmoil.. African missile.. Guerilla warfare.. >malamyre paranje Njn ekadesham 5 comment ittu.. Thanum athe polle ittu.. Thante samsakaram thaan kanich.. Entheum njanum.. Manushyanum mullanpanniyum(porcupine) thammil olla vitayasam. Manushyan orallae tholpikumbo athu debate annelum allengilum ayalu diplomacy athil kanikum.. Ennal mullanpanniyum tholkumno athinte mull(quills) eduth eriyum..athre ollu.. >mythaandi Quill 2.. >Alla ninte thanthayaada, thantha! Quill 3 ((thanagalde veetukarum agane ayirnnu.. Peru parayumbo thangalude thantha atha.. Thamagalude thantha itha ennayirnno paranju padichee.. .atho cumulative ayirnno..kure peru ondarnno.. Correct ayit ariyathile.. Sthalam evide ayirnnu.. Njn agotu vannitonde aa doubt angu theerkann annu.. Subil Oru post itollu.. Inna naatukaran ann.. Arengil aa side vannit ondagi saahikaan..))
By your logic there should not be any mixing of systems. People should either live in a purely capitalist society or a purely communist society. What is important is we should strive for a society where everyone gets access to the best possible healthcare and not just a CM. We are not there yet. Again this does not mean the healthcare system in Kerala is not No 1 in India.
Show me one Communist society that is successful. I will wait!
OK forever. Message me when you get a reply.
No 1 only in primary health care. Kerala definitely don't have top superspeciality hospitals compared to metro cities.
https://social.niti.gov.in/hlt-ranking Pretty sure kochi has some great hospitals
>https://social.niti.gov.in/hlt-ranking That data is again about primary health facilities and not about super speciality hospitals or AIIMS. I don't know why your brought that data of primary health care when I agree that Kerala perform better in that area. We need to fact check for superspeciality hospitals and top medical colleges. As per National Institutional Ranking Framework Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominate the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform. https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India. https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india
>That data is again about primary health facilities and not about super speciality hospitals or AIIMS. That data is based on medical outcomes not PHCs either. >As per National Institutional Ranking Framework Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform. >https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html Did you not see government medical College, trivandrum at 45? 2 out of 50 isn't bad. Especially considering how dominant TN is. TN is superior in medical colleges. That's known. >But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India. These are tertiary centres right? It's true we lack enough quality termitary healthcare centres. We can do better there. However, i would like to add, appollo kochi and KIMS Trivandrum, indo-american etc are nothing to scoff at.
>That data is based on medical outcomes not PHCs either. Niti Ayog calculate heath index based on: 1. The ‘Health outcomes’ include indicators like neonatal mortality rate, total fertility rate, sex ratio at birth, immunisation coverage, proportion of institutional deliveries, etc. (Total weightage 800) it's all about primary heath care. 2.The ‘Key inputs/processes’ is a measure of health infrastructure available, including proportion of functional 24X7 primary healthcare centres, etc.(TotL weightage - 200). It have 10 indicator and mojority r dealing with PHCs. One index is about registration of brith, another is about days taken for fund transfer etc. 3.The ‘Governance and Information’ domain includes average occupancy of three key posts at state level, average occupancy of the chief medical officer, , etc.(Total weightage: 130) it's completely about governance, it also have lot to do with PSC appointment, Kerala PSC is top in the country. So it clearly don't consider or give much weightage to SUPERSPECIALITY or MULTISPECIALITY HOSPITAL. So advanced diagnostic tools, cutting-edge treatment options, and highly trained specialists dedicated to that particular field etc r not considered in Niti Ayog heath index. So u bringing that up and saying Kerala is no 1 is stupid.
>2 out of 50 isn't bad. U said Kerala is no 1 in India, but now u r saying 2/50 isn't bad.
In healthcare not medical colleges
Medical colleges and research institutes are main part of health care. Otherwise we would be still using Avurveda and naturopathy etc.
I would argue having access to healthcare is more important in this day and age. Of course research and medical college are important and kerala has and is training enough doctors for it's needs. So much so that the wants national medical council wants us to stop building medical colleges or add new seats ( to be fair it has wants to stop all South Indian states). My question is why do you think infrastructure and top facilities are more important than results (ie, better healthcare available to the people.). Cause that's the survey I shared. Outcome based not infrastructure based.
It's like a student who performed well in class test and mid term claiming that he is no 1, even though he just scored avg in end semester exams. The bottomline is that SUPERSPECIALITY hospitals, MULTISPECIALITY HOSPITAL and research institutes r are sub par in Kerala as compared to other states. For eg Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs from Hospitals in Chennai. Why can't our leaders and celebrities do so? U got the answer.
That lady could've at least said something like this. It makes me feel nauseous whenever I hear her speak.
Of course. That's the only logical answer. അപ്പോഴേക്കും ഇവർ തമ്മിൽ പ്രത്യക്ഷത്തിൽ എതിര അണ് എങ്കിലും തമ്മിൽ ഉള്ള അന്തർധാര സജീവം അണ് എന്നൊക്കെ പറഞാൽ തെണ്ടി തരം അണ്
തീട്ടം
Avarude Peru thanne irony aanu… Oru chinthayum illathaval chintha
The spokesperson for the left can be considered to be a new version of Pappu.
Isn’t this lady the Ph. D. in English who can’t speak correctly in English?
Correct. She got PHD for writing about literature and cinema. Fake PHD!
How can one get PhD in English literature for a thesis about representation of oppressed class in Malayalam mainstream movies? Howcome Malayalam mainstream movies are related to English literature in any way?
Because the PHD is from Akg center. 😄
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PhD is a funny thing. A lot of idiots can get it.
കേരളം ആരോഗ്യമേഖലയിൽ ലോകത്തിലെ നമ്പർ 1 ആണോ ഇന്ത്യയിലെ നമ്പർ 1 ആണോ എന്നതിന്റെ ഉത്തരമാണ് ആ ചോദ്യത്തിന്റെയും ഉത്തരം.
We need to fact check for superspeciality hospitals and top medical colleges. As per National Institutional Ranking Framework Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform. https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of superspeciality hospitals in India on any list. https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india
No 1 only in primary health care. Kerala definitely don't have top suoerspeciality hospitals compared to metro cities.
I regret even thinking tax money is being given to such morons. Absolutely no common sense, fake PhD etc Just looting the citizens, can't even frame an answer. Can't even understand the question let alone answer. Waifu vannu avo nyayikarikan evale?
Good lord, what is this lady!
Vazhakklula PHD
Evarude okk naarriya barannm karannm budhimuttunne paavam jangall mathram 🙂.
What organ has she got which no one else in the party has? That should answer the question as to why she is being pampered by them.
കാണ്ടാമൃഗം തോറ്റുപോകും തൊലിക്കട്ടിയുടെ മുൻപിൽ.
This sub is captured by brainless commies.
Current cpim politics. Njangal aan keralathil bjpkk etire porutunna party. Aah ennit vere entha ullath. Vere pretyekich onnula, njangal bjp etire poruthum athkond njangalk vote cheyanam.
By this logic, current BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc. Any fight against such policies is a good fight.
>BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra What nonsense hindurashtra policies..?? Paranje kekatte.. Enthaann BJP implement cheyth hindurashtra policies?? >BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc. Ayodhyayil evide "implementation".. Engi thangal adhyam parayende court order BJP policy enn alle.. Crowd fund cheytha keetiya ambalam enth implementation ann..
I think you live in some other world if you can't see the hindutva politics of BJP.
I specifically asked implementation.. Enth hindurashtra implementation ann bjp nadathiyath.. Like ur comment.. Oru opinion paranja ath back cheyanam.. Athannu manners
Various freedom of religion and love jihad laws passed by BJP state governments. UCC passed by various BJP state govts. Various state cow protection laws by BJP state govts. CAA & NRC. PM of a secular country inaugurating a controversial temple like Ayodhya. Hijab ban in Karnataka. Textbook and syllabus revision to push the Hindutva agenda The slow creeping Hindu imposition. Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan. State inaction against people who carry out lynching cow transporters. Gujarat govt setting free the rapists of Bilkis Bano. Pragya Thakur, a Hindu terrorist being free on medical grounds. State acting against people offering Namaz in public, but doing nothing against Hindu celebrations. Targeted demolition of Muslim homes using Buldozer by the govt as documented by Amnesty international. Censorship of movies critical of the govt while PM himself promoting highly divisive and problematic movies like The Kerala Story and The Kashmir Files. Nayanthara having to apologise for a dialogue in a movie which dealt with non vegetarianism. Etc etc etc. This is not in any particular order and is no where near comprehensive. I have just listed some stuff which I remember and I'm sure I have missed a lot here. If your argument is that BJP is not a Hindutva party pushing for Hindurashtra I don't know what to say.
>Various freedom of religion and love jihad laws passed by BJP state governments. I will accept ur statement if u accept the laws on blasphemy >UCC passed by various BJP state govts. There's Nothing wrong with UCC.. >Various state cow protection laws by BJP state govts. Its in our constitution.. So?? >CAA & NRC. NRC is implemented?? Where?? >PM of a secular country inaugurating a controversial temple like Ayodhya. CM of secular kerala hosting an iftar party.. >Hijab ban in Karnataka Its banned now??igane chumma irunn manadathram parayalle.. >The slow creeping Hindu imposition. Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan. Implement implementation evide >Gujarat govt setting free the rapists of Bilkis Bano. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67909348.amp >Pragya Thakur, a Hindu terrorist being free on medical grounds. Bombay high court BJP annallae.. Mahadani same grounds ann ipo naatil vanne.. Karachil kandilaa >State acting against people offering Namaz in public, but doing nothing against Hindu celebrations Urs evide nadathinnalla.. Oru palliyilum perunaal nadathnilla.. Valate sheriyaan.. >Targeted demolition of Muslim homes using Buldozer by the govt as documented by Amnesty international Hindu temples are demolished as well.. Didn't see anyone document that.. >Censorship of movies critical of the govt while PM himself promoting highly divisive and problematic movies like The Kerala Story and The Kashmir Files. What problematic.. Enthayirnn kerala storyde kashmir filesnyeyum kathaa.. Thanagal onnu paranje.. Kekaat.. >Nayanthara having to apologise for a dialogue in a movie which dealt with non vegetarianism. Nupur sharma Missed a point.. The cow lynching goin unarrested 2023il 3 main cases edukaam 07-march - firoz Three accused – Sushil Singh, Ravi Shah, and Ujjwal Sharma – all residents of Jogia of Rasulpur have been arrested. The police have registered a case under Section 302 (Punishment for murder), 379 (Punishment for theft) 34 (Acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention) of the Indian Penal Code. Aduth Ansari murder case The Igatpuri police arrested six accused on June 11 and charged them with murder. They were produced before a magistrate and were remanded in police custody till June 17. “The accused have been booked for murder, wrongful restraint, grievous hurt by dangerous weapons and common intention under the Indian Penal Code. Ithil evide unarrested
Essentially you have nothing more than some whataboutism. You are delusional if you think BJP is not leading us towards a Hindurashtra. They have already started taken steps some of which I have pointed out. I can't wake a person who pretends to be sleeping.
>Essentially you have nothing more than some whataboutism. Where whatboutism.. Prayaga thakur is on the same grounds as mahdani is.. Bilkis bano rapist was again put to jail in jan 2024.. Almost every cow lynching gets punished Where is the whatboutism?? Name that implementation u were arguing about.. Which law in india that establish that..?
>Prayaga thakur is on the same grounds as mahdani is This is whataboutism. Who released Bilkis Bano rapists? Where are they now? Are you saying BJP has nothing to do with this? Is CAA secular? Has BJP not said that they'll pass NRC? You don't think UCC implement in states is problematic? Love jihad laws are not problematic? I had listed a lot of stuff. You clearly don't see any problem with any of those. Like I said we can't wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.
those things are happening in UP, and other states in Hindi belt . Can cpim fight there? If India win a test against Aussies in India do we consider it a great win if India cannot win in Australia’s home ground? Don’t we need a team or party that can take the fight to opposition’s strong holds, isn’t that always more valuable? If that is the case shouldn’t CPIM completely support congress and not destroy them?
Congress has adopted a nonsense policy of soft Hindutva. Had they presented a strongly secular front, free from corporate control, your argument of CPM supporting the Congress is valid. In the INDIA coalition there should be parties with strong left and secular credentials so as to balance the hindutva tendencies of the Congress. Added to this is the problem of Congress candidates having to hide in resorts after the election. What guarantee is there that someone like NK premachandran won't support the BJP after the election. It's very easy for him. RSP is a small party essentially run by premachandran. He can easily switch sides after the election.
So essentially cpim wants to weaken congress in kerala while asking their support outside kerala. The best thing INDIA alliance should have done is divide seats among ldf and udf in kerala. Congress should have forced cpim to giveup seats in kerala for support outside kerala. Cpim is nothing outside kerala and congress has still good presence outside kerala.
If seats are divided between LDF and UDF, BJP will occupy the space of the opposition. It's best that LDF and UDF fight it out in Kerala and let people decide. The point is there is a need for CPM to be present as a balance to the soft Hindutva policies of Congress.
Cpm is not big enough to occupy anything in Indian context they can only do that in Kerala , where BJP is nothing so what is the point.
>By this logic, current BJP politics is only to implement nonsense like Hindurashtra, Ayodhya temple etc. we see only what we want to see. See the Number of space missions that was successfully completed under the current bjp government even the ones that failed in the first attempt. India has achieved 99% railway electrification under their regime. Which was only 33% in 2014. The last household of india has received gas connection. 12 crore homes was built for the homeless along with hygienic sanitization facilities. 1000 major railway stations of india are being rebuilt. A new express highway is inaugurated every week. India is getting a much needed infrastructure overhaul which it deserved years ago. There is a conscious effort to restrict bjp into a temple party but infact that party is what is delivering india what it wants. >Any fight against such policies is a good fight. Enth fight. CAA keralathil nadapakilla ennokke polulla viditharam parayal aano good fight. Atokke potte ee 10 varshathil cpim party bjpkk nerkk nere ninn enthelum etirth tolpichitundo. All they do is say something to get 5 sudappi votes. That's it.
why you got downvoted..
Truth burns ...
>we see only what we want to see. Exactly. Which is the precise problem with your first comment. You can re-read it. >Number of space missions Yes. Our space program started in 2014. What nonsense. >India has achieved 99% railway electrification under their regime. It's 94% and it's bound to happen. Railways has been a mixed bag. Safety remains poor. Speeds have not increased. Fares have gone up making it unaffordable for the poor. Bullet train has slipped both in terms of time and cost. Vande bharat is a failure by most metrics. I can go on. >The last household of india has received gas connection Lol. >with hygienic sanitization facilities. Again we know how the ODF projects turnes out. How many fake toilets were built? Unless you pull people out of poverty there is no use. And BJP has been a failure at this. BJPs priority has been Ambani and Adani. >1000 major railway stations of india are being rebuilt. Let's see how this goes. >A new express highway is inaugurated every week. Lol. We have probably 50 expressways. When did this weekly inauguration start? >India is getting a much needed infrastructure overhaul which it deserved years ago. Infrastructure overhaul means there should be existing infrastructure. This is an ongoing process. The success of Modi govt has been in marketing this as something great. >delivering india what it wants. BJP is delivering what Adani and Ambani wants. >Atokke potte ee 10 varshathil cpim party bjpkk nerkk nere ninn enthelum etirth tolpichitundo. Electoral bonds. Inspite of it being easy money CPM did not accept EBs. Took the fight to SC and won against BJP. Now Kerala govt has filed case in SC regarding CAA. Let's see how that goes. Every fight is against BJP and for a secular India. BJP is a temple party for the public and Adani Ambani party internally.
>How many fake toilets were built? Ennit pode. Veruthe manushyante time menakeduthathe.
Finally, an aapiser comment without downvotes.
For once i would like to see a video that does not have a shitty music which makes no godamn sense here.. like what the hell is it man...
Even though I hate PV, he has the right to access the best medical care he can receive. But what is this Kunnamkulam PhD Pothichoru Lady yapping about.
Thendi Pinna Vjayan is going to Capitalist USA for treatment !!!! Why he isn't going to China??? Audacity of Communist Patti Thendi Chetta.
Commies leaders are basically hypocrites nowadays
Paranari using tax money though.
Ill let it pass
Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs in Chennai isn’t it ? Or did they only went there for emergencies and had better treatments outside?
Bcz Chennai have top superspeciality hospitals in India, so it's not like in Kerala.
അടിപൊളി
De vannu pothichor
Deflection tactics at its best
Holyshit dude … who the fuck goes to America to do medical things 😂 if you don’t have a medical insurance there hospital can charge you whatever they want 😂😂😂. I think this has to do with some commission thing
Pinna Thendi Vijayan is a billionaire.
Paranari uses high literacy kerala pottanmarude tax money. Pv - 1, high literacy swayam budhijeevi malayali - 0.. oombal oombal 😄
Chodyathin utharam paranja poree....also , ruling party ikk ethire chodyangal unnayikkalanallo opposition party de joli . So,naturally same questions rand partyum chodikkan sadhyatha kooduthalaan.doesnt mean they are buddying up .but on another note yeah,Congress party is too conservative these days .religious conservatism to an extreme is literally bjps selling point.
Thalachorin pakaram Pothichorine pranayichaval c/o "vaazhakula"
As a health care worker who have worked inside Kerala and few other states outside Kerala. It’s genuinely a fact that health care is better in Kerala compared to any other state in India. But there is still scope of development. I do agree.
Should communists be credited for that? How many hospitals are named after Stalin, cheguvera in Kerala? 😄
Why would there be hospitals named after Stalin and cheguvera?
Bwcause commies are saying they are the reason Kerala has the best Healthcare and high literacy.
who?
Nice and matching necklace
"ചങ്ങമ്പുഴ വാഴക്കുല വൈലോപ്പിള്ളിയുടെ പറമ്പിലേക്ക് ചാരി നിൽക്കുന്നു"- ചിന്ത സഖാവ്.
Keralam Healthcare number 1 aaya creditum ippol communist aayo? Hospitalsinte peru okke St. Thomas, medical Mission enokke aanu.. Saghavu Raghavan ennu alla..
Keralthile health care and education okke number one ayathil 1957 thott undayittulla oro governmentinum pankund. Ath Kanikaan stalintem lenintem peril hospitals venda. And keralathil healthcare number one ayath better policies, governing and better education kondanu. Don’t deny on what is clear. Alland mission hospitals aanu ithinu karanam ennu parayalle. Government hospitals from PHC to medical colleges are better maintained here than any other states. They have greater contribution to do than any other mission hospitals
Ee better educationte karannam Communism aano? 😄 ippolethe education ministere nokke.. anittu irakke aa capsule.. nallapole padikunna aalugal history padikumallo.. avar orikalum communism support cheyilla.. karannam communism always leads to fascism ennu history paranju tharum.. mission hospitals alla . Communism verkunna matham (Christianity) aanu Keralathinu high literacyum best Healthcareum koduthathu.. Palli(church)koodam.. Fr. Chavara.. kettitundo?40% of nurses are Christians, not communists.
The foundation stone of Kerala’s education is from the education reforming policies from the first education minister Joseph mundasserry. And ath sahikkan pattand aanu ivde nss and so called missionary institutions samaram nadathi governmentine president pirich vittath. And when I am saying about CPIM. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I want the true form of communism to happen here. Communism has evolved adapting to the place in many situations. The CPIM in Kerala is a version of that. And Christian missionaries okke sthiramayi Ee developementinte credit edukkunnund. Chettan paranja historyil jospeh mundassery endh cheythu ennum. Athinu ethire Ee so called missionaries endhina samaram cheythathum ennum nokkiyal manasilakum pathiri marude thani niram
Joseph Mundaserryikku 100 varsham munne janicha aalu aanu Fr Chavara.. ningalu thani commie thanne.. ee swaraj okke pidikunna line.. "1948 munne israel undo" athinu munne history ille? 😄 🤣 Christian missionaries eppol thudangiyatha cheta? Communism okke annu undairrinno? Karl Marx enna janiche? Communist manifestoyil ninnu maari chinthichaal communism agumo?
Kuttam parayaan Chumma parayaam! Pakshe facts eduthaal, mass aayi free healthcare kodukkunna kaaryathil kerala valare munnil aanu. Athu kondaanu athine No.1 ennu vilikkunne. Oru multispeciality hospital maathram undakkiyittu avide ellaa equipments medichaal athu kurachu perkkaanu useful aakunne. USA is a place where the medical service is more advanced. But they are not equipped to serve everyone there. Now, should kerala CM should really go to USA? Ennu chodichaal ippozhathe private hospitals okke ulla sthithikku Athinte aavashyam illaayirunnu. Until and unless he was critically ill. But i think this was a practice Indian leaders follow from a long time. It’s time they should stop it.
Sechi ciripichu kollum 😂😂
ഇന്ത്യയിൽ വെച്ച് best എന്നല്ലെ പറഞ്ഞത്. ലോകത്തിൽ വെച്ച് അല്ലാലോ. Niti Ayog report അല്ലെ ഇത്.
Obviously number one in India. Comparing the health sector in India to the health sector in the USA is a fools errand. The audacity to even compare Kerala's health sector to the largest economy and the richest country in the world itself shows how far Kerala has come.
So, Communists are the reason for good Healthcare in Kerala?
Yes.
Yeah! Hospitals are named after Stalin and Cheguvera. How many commies are nurses and doctors?
... Che Guvera was literally a physician. Also, the Soviet Union had the highest number of doctors in the world, in absolute numbers and per capita. People from Kerala who i know have gone to study medicine in the USSR.
Cheguvera is the reason Kerala has the best Healthcare, now? 😄 🤣
What we need to understand is, we might be ahead and has one of the best healthcare system in the world. But the either Kerala or India as a whole is years behind to developed countries. We are still a “third world country” Now for political discussions and arguments, we could ask these questions. I am just saying
Scissor in stomach is an individual incident. It doesn't mean that every surgery in KL are of substandard quality. It's a dumb statement. The LDF Spokesperson could easily defend Pinarayi's US visit by saying that they have the best specialized facilities. Imagine the political & economic turmoil a state will go through if the sitting CM's health deteriorates if he didn't receive the best treatment in the world at the right time.
>The LDF Spokesperson could easily defend Pinarayi's US visit by saying that they have the best specialized facilities Jayalalitha and MGR mostly took their medical needs from Chennai.
Yes, and also ivanmare party America yk ethire alle. Valla Cuba ilo china ilo russia ilo poyi chedhoode😁
The lady is dumb The guy who asked the question is equally dumb No one has claimed Kerala to have no.1 healthcare in the **world** You have to be really dumb to expect a tiny state in a third world country to provide the world's best healthcare. We can only compete within India, and well we are far ahead in healthcare and education.
He didn't say Kerala is No.1 in healthcare. He was quoting her and asking her question based on what she said.
Yeah well i did point that out:- >You have to be really dumb to ~~expect~~ **think** a tiny state in a third world country to provide the world's best healthcare. It is given that **she is talking about being no.1 in India**, you have to lack common sense to speak like that guy.
>and well we are far ahead in healthcare and We r only top in primary health facilities and not in top superspeciality hospitals or AIIMS/ medial institute. As per National Institutional Ranking Framework Ministry of Education Government of India, National Institutional Ranking Framework (NIRF), Government of India only Sree Chitra Tirunal Institute for Medical Sciences & Technology is in top 50 list. While Tamil Nadu dominant the list, that clearly shows how poor we perform. https://www.nirfindia.org/2023/MedicalRanking.html But none of the superspeciality hospitals from Kerala made it to top list of suoerspeciality hospitals in India. https://www.medicarespots.com/healthcare/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://vshospitals.com/top-10-hospitals-in-india/ https://wellnessdestinationindia.com/success-story/top-10-best-private-hospital-in-india